When you think of Brazilians, which of the two photos comes to mind?

[lyllo]

http://sp3.fotolog.com/photo/3/50/103/osv_jardim_baixo/1320500883416_f.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kSzLlfa06Qs/TnbN13xvXcI/AAAAAAAAAC0/esbtc36U1g0/s1600/familia.jpg

[SupaThug]

Second one is way more accurate...trust me!

[Tooting Carmen]

Most of the country is more like number 2 than number 1.

[lyllo]

Most of the country is more like number 2 than number 1.

I think most of the country is a mix of the two pics, triracial. And because of quadroons pic number one would be more common.

[SupaThug]

Most of the country is more like number 2 than number 1.

Only the coastal areas of some states are like number 1

[SupaThug]

I think most of the country is a mix of the two pics, triracial. And because of quadroons pic number one would be more common.

Not true!First photo looks to be from a poor neighboorhod in Rio de Janeiro,few places in Brazil look like it.

[Sikeliot]

If you mix and match the people between the two photos, then it'd be more typical.

[aimar]

2nd

[Baldur]

I think most people here will think of people in number one photo.

[SupaThug]

I think most people here will think of people in number one photo.

Yeah,they will wrongly think of the first photo...because second one is way more accurate!

[aimar]

If you mix and match the people between the two photos, then it'd be more typical.

No, I think photo number 2 would still be more representative than a mix of photo 1 and 2.

[Baldur]

Yeah,they will wrongly think of the first photo...because second one is way more accurate!

You know better than me this. No need to be angry though. Many people here are ignorant about South American nations unfortunately.

[SupaThug]

You know better than me this. No need to be angry though. Many people here are ignorant about South American nations unfortunately.

I am not angry man :thumb001:

[SupaThug]

I just can't believe that most people voted for photo number 1 :picard1:

[Ades]

Second one is surely easier to find, but the first one is not rare as well, depending on the region and social class.

None of them would be universally considered White here. Maybe one or two from the socond picture would be considered White by some.

[Porpolita]

Second one definitely

[Tiberio]

Number 2

[SupaThug]

Second one is surely easier to find, but the first one is not rare as well, depending on the region and social class.

None of them would be universally considered White here. Maybe one or two from the socond picture would be considered White by some.

I am not sure about this.People of the 2nd photo would be considered white by many here IMO.

[lyllo]

Number 2

aren't most Brazilians in Italy black though?

[Ades]

I am not sure about this.People of the 2nd photo would be considered white by many here IMO.

Really? I agree they would be socially treated as Whites here, but I believe that many people would be able to see they have some mixing, even if they are mostly European looking.

[SupaThug]

Really? I agree they would be socially treated as Whites here, but I believe that many people would be able to see they have some mixing, even if they are mostly European looking.

I know many people that look simillar to them here and they are considered white by my friends.

[Gauthier]

Most people take as a reference what they see on TV, which is usually the carnival and national soccer team.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/833w0x.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/ex833w0xj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/Enb0pd.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/exEnb0pdj)

[Ades]

I know many people that look simillar to them here and they are considered white by my friends.

OK, I can understand that.

On a somewhat different topic, I've noticed that, depending on the ancestry/racial composition of the particular Brazilian person, the definition for races seem to change a lot.

For instance, my friends of colonial stock, that look similar to the people of the second picture, consider themselves and other people like that to be White, and only see as non-White someone with loads of non-European ancestry (like those in the first pic). Differing from that, my friends of recent immigrant ancestry (north Italian and German) tend to have a somewhat strict view of how they define "White", and they will usually agree someone like that (2nd pic) shows too much ambiguous looks to be considered White.

It's like that thing we were talking about Ronaldo the other day. He sees himself as White, but here I often hear people simply call him Black, even though he is mixed.

I guess the way a person sees himself here affects how they see the others.

[SupaThug]

OK, I can understand that.

On a somewhat different topic, I've noticed that, dependind on the ancestry/racial composition of the particular Brazilian person, the definition for races seem to change a lot.

For instance, my friends of colonial stock, that look similar to the people of the second picture, consider themselves and other people like that to be White, and only see as non-White someone with loads of non-European ancestry (like those in the first pic). Differing from that, my friends of recent immigrant ancestry (north Italian and German) tend to have a somewhat strict view of how they define "White", and they will usually agree someone like that (2nd pic) shows too much ambiguous looks to be considered White.

It's like that thing we were talking about Ronaldo the other day. He sees himself as White, but here I often hear people simply call him Black, even though he is mixed.

I guess the way a person sees himself here affects how they see the others.

Yeah,but even my fully italian friend considers this kind of people to be white,since he has grown in a metropolis that is too diverse.

[curupira]

I opened a thread with crowd pics from all over Brazil here: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?126447-Brazil-a-visual-report-(crowd-pictures)&highlight=Caic%F3. Predominantly african (genetically and by looks) are a minority in Brazil overall, being more common in the coastal areas and in states like Rio de Janeiro and Bahia, for example.

To think of our football team as representative is as stupid as taking the English football team or the American dream team as representatives of their countries (when everyone knows people of more african ancestry tend to be over represented in these areas, the same goes to dancing people from Rio in the carnival, dancing in Rio's carnival surely gets more african in ancestry people than the average person from Rio is, and surely more when speaking of the whole country):

English team:
http://i61.tinypic.com/53uw7b.jpg

The American Dream team:
http://i60.tinypic.com/2uglx5h.jpg

Carnival in England:
http://www.fulwood-cadley.lancsngfl.ac.uk/images/library/Facts%20of%20the%20Month/August/carnival.jpg

Carnival in Louisiana:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Mardi_Gras
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Zulu_100th_Anniversary_15.jpg



Most people take as a reference what they see on TV, which is usually the carnival and national soccer team.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/833w0x.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/ex833w0xj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/Enb0pd.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/exEnb0pdj)

[Awebo]

Add one person from the first photo to the second and there you have it.

[curupira]

The thread I had opened, quite informative, with crowd pictures, is missing. It is a good one, since some areas of Brazil, particularly those of Northeast, tend to be highly misrepresented even in Brazil.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?126447-Brazil-a-visual-report-(crowd-pictures)&highlight=Caic%F3

For example, these are crowd pictures from Northeast and North Brazil:

From Fortaleza, in Ceará (Northeast Brazil):

http://imgsapp.esportes.opovo.com.br/app/noticia_128033434835/2013/10/13/2647030/torcedoresdoleo.jpg
http://blog.opovo.com.br/blogdoeliomar/files/2012/10/fortaleza-torcida.jpg
http://imgsapp.esportes.opovo.com.br/app/noticia_128033434835/2013/06/01/2563583/TorcidaFortaleza.jpg
http://tribunadoceara.uol.com.br/esportes/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/03/torcida.jpg
http://tribunadoceara.uol.com.br/esportes/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/05/torcida2.jpg

From Recife, in Pernambuco (Northeast Brazil):

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ByZH8gerbcU/UanPaCyUC2I/AAAAAAAAoJU/tw15VkdhV_c/s1600/a+cobra.jpg
http://f9.net.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/TORCIDA-DO-SANTA-CRUZ-BERNARDO-DANTAS-DP-D.A-PRESS.jpg
http://jc3.uol.com.br/blogs/repositorio/santa_torcedor_400x300.jpg
http://static1.leiaja.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/esportes/2013/07/DSC_1969.JPG?itok=O7c-DGTW
http://torce.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/eu-eu-eu-caiu-na-ilha-se-fudeu.jpg

From Paraíba (Northeast Brazil):

http://s2.glbimg.com/vGHzPWdaFhPGfWqXM0hN36zCgscRBfiwwyRGmD6SvOIGTAM0MG rPAIobu5xg-jox/s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2012/10/21/aguia2.jpg
http://www.jornaldaparaiba.com.br/polemicapb/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/cartaxo_torcida.jpg
http://static1.leiaja.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/esportes/2013/10/Torcida-06-10-13.jpg?itok=HV97_emG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9iQzNmGsIBQ/ThpM2vlqJUI/AAAAAAAACMw/eBz8y6CW9A4/s1600/torcida%252828%2529.JPG

From Piauí (Northeast Brazil):

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mrqQmr0Rxlg/UYd-8wdpOFI/AAAAAAABoBQ/oTsgsYmwNsk/s1600/1.JPG
http://s2.glbimg.com/ft0Gfxsfxt8ABlioGanKYZmXhKw=/620x390/s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2013/08/05/img_6468.jpg
http://www.acessepiaui.com.br/files/imagens/fotos/15072012191050b1bb231d4fdc.jpg

[curupira]

From Maranhão (Northeast Brazil):

http://s2.glbimg.com/8nQLPcy8ywetCYYcT1o4PQa9A4U=/620x390/top/s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2013/08/19/motenses_em_itapecuru_8.jpg
http://www.blogsoestado.com/danielmatos/files/2012/10/castelao-cheio2.jpg
http://www.gazetaam.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/torcida_do_sampaio.jpg

From Rio Grande do Norte (Northeast Brazil):

http://www.blogdoserido.com.br/wp-content/uploads/torcida-galo.jpg
http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/90363.jpg
http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/19614.jpg
http://www.7segundos.com.br/public/_IMG/esporte/esporte_706.jpg

Football supporters from Amazonas, a state in Northern Brazil:

http://www.brasilescola.com/upload/e/mapa-amazonas.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2qkukoi.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/23s6k92.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/ngoj10.jpg

Football supporters from Cuiabá, Central West Brazil:

http://www.mochileiro.tur.br/MT%20mapa-mato-grosso1.jpg

http://www.craquesdoradio.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/torcida-cuiab%C3%A1-aeroporto.jpeg
http://www.craquesdoradio.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/torcida-cuiab%C3%A1.jpg
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/fzxPOEA4eQ8/hqdefault.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N9UpZNHyMqg/Tp9fVTl1ivI/AAAAAAAABPY/29-err4_r8Q/s400/Imagem+129.jpg
http://www.blogsoestado.com/edivanfonseca/files/2011/09/torcida-cuiaba.jpg
http://s2.glbimg.com/hJcJgRMDKxxviZUFo9K6fQGUU5Eo_5MFW4R9ewhiuH5Ioz-HdGixxa_8qOZvMp3w/s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2013/02/07/cuiaba_comemora.jpg
http://futebolmt.com.br/public/image/post/?src=963/cuiaba-convoca-torcedores-da-baixada.jpg&w=729&h=331&a=c&zc=1

[curupira]

Public school pics from the Northeast of Brazil...

From Cocal dos Alves, interior of Piauí (Northeast Brazil):

http://i44.tinypic.com/mm4y7m.jpg

From Fortaleza in Ceará (Northeast Brazil):

http://blogs.diariodonordeste.com.br/politica/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/prefeitura.png

From Salvador in Bahia (Northeast Brazil):

http://escolas.educacao.ba.gov.br/sites/default/files/imagecache/Destaque_652x322/midiateca/fotos/2013/85_0.jpg

From Caruaru, Pernambuco (Northeast Brazil):

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x10UdEL7W30/UpX6JIeUCzI/AAAAAAAADE0/9Kmt4SR7s5U/s1600/1.jpg

From Sobral, Ceará (Northeast Brazil):

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FOki34UTKtE/UTFmTSYQVZI/AAAAAAAALlg/WffTC3ESZWY/s1600/IMG_4367.JPG

Private school pics from the Northeast of Brazil...

From Fortaleza in Ceará:

http://www.jornalcomarca.com.br/fotos_materias/240620111906174Foto_9c_net.jpg

From João Pessoa in Paraíba:

http://marista.edu.br/evangelizacao/files/2013/04/Col%C3%A9gio-Marista-Pio-X-Jo%C3%A3o-Pessoa-PB-3.jpg

From Recife in Pernambuco:

http://sp3.fotolog.com/photo/51/54/25/anothers/1227572895491_f.jpg

From Natal in Rio Grande do Norte:

http://www.ceinet.com.br/pics/gremio/gremio.jpg

From Salvador in Bahia:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bBXhWlP7riQ/SRnbNFvJU7I/AAAAAAAAAF4/pc1kzaBie54/s320/eu+i+as+meninas.jpg

[curupira]

Football supporters from Pernambuco, Northeast Brazil:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Pernambuco_in_Brazil.svg/250px-Pernambuco_in_Brazil.svg.png

http://p2.trrsf.com/image/fget/cf/619/464/images.terra.com/2013/11/03/dsc05414.JPG
http://i42.tinypic.com/apjksy.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2j35hcn.jpg
http://www.folhape.com.br/blogdeprimeira/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/torcida-do-N%C3%A1utico-Peu-Ricardo.jpg
http://p2.trrsf.com/image/fget/cf/407/305/images.terra.com/2013/10/14/664.jpg
http://p2.trrsf.com/image/fget/cf/619/464/images.terra.com/2013/08/29/nauticomatheusbrittoaimagemfutura.jpg
http://jc3.uol.com.br/blogs/repositorio/torcida-santacruz-foto-guga-matos%281%29.jpg
http://msalx.placar.abril.com.br/2013/06/18/1602/O6FLF/roiroi_santacruz_credito-leo-caldas_revista-placar.jpeg?1371582208
http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2011/08/14/santacruz-torcida-gcom47.jpg
http://www.blogdosantinha.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/torcida-caravana1.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fKz0pKlELnQ/TlJtGPipD1I/AAAAAAAABHQ/9WkPgEzgYis/s1600/P10907863.jpg

[SupaThug]

Public school pics from the Northeast of Brazil...

It's impressing to see how the african input is higher in Salvador than in other places.

[Gauthier]

I opened a thread with crowd pics from all over Brazil here: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?126447-Brazil-a-visual-report-(crowd-pictures)&highlight=Caic%F3. Predominantly african (genetically and by looks) are a minority in Brazil overall, being more common in the coastal areas and in states like Rio de Janeiro and Bahia, for example.

To think of our football team as representative is as stupid as taking the English football team or the American dream team as representatives of their countries (when everyone knows people of more african ancestry tend to be over represented in these areas, the same goes to dancing people from Rio in the carnival, dancing in Rio's carnival surely gets more african in ancestry people than the average person from Rio is, and surely more when speaking of the whole country):


Of course that is not representative at all, that is only a portion of Brazil's society. Unfortunately that is the image of Brazil that goes around the world through different channels such as soccer, tourist promotions, adult entertainment industry, etc.

BTW, the Favelas (slums) also make it to international news all the time.

[curupira]

Sure, and a lot of it is done out of malice, speaking of the international media. They really have a knack for distorting Brazil.


Of course that is not representative at all, that is only a portion of Brazil's society. Unfortunately that is the image of Brazil that goes around the world through different channels such as soccer, tourist promotions, adult entertainment industry, etc.

BTW, the Favelas (slums) also make it to international news all the time.

[Baldur]

Sure, and a lot of it is done out of malice, speaking of the international media. They really have a knack for distorting Brazil.

Well ask any european what they think of when they hear Brazil, most will say, samba, football and Rio. Just like people think of sexy loose blonde women when they hear Sweden. Every country has some stereotypes thanks to media.

[curupira]

But Sweden is a smaller, less populated and much more homogenous country. Brazil is quite large, and with a big population and its composition is far more different than the stereotype the media likes to play up. The most popular musical genre in Brazil, f.e, is Sertanejo music, not samba, which is more typical of Rio (even though it came originally from Salvador, Bahia). I've never ever seen Sertanejo music mentioned on international media outlets.


Well ask any european what they think of when they hear Brazil, most will say, samba, football and Rio. Just like people think of sexy loose blonde women when they hear Sweden. Every country has some stereotypes thanks to media.

[Smaug]

Neither.

[Trogdor]

I think I would go with both.

[Baldur]

But Sweden is a smaller, less populated and much more homogenous country. Brazil is quite large, and with a big population and its composition is far more different than the stereotype the media likes to play up. The most popular musical genre in Brazil, f.e, is Sertanejo music, not samba, which is more typical of Rio (even though it came originally from Salvador, Bahia). I've never ever seen Sertanejo music mentioned on international media outlets.

Well my point wasn't the stereotypes about Sweden but you have the same for others. Why it's like that I don't know, I guess it's a very easy sold image of the exotic Brazil. It's retarded though.

[Dictator]

First.

[StonyArabia]

I think of them as tanned Whites or dark Caucasoids often, so the second pic.

[curupira]

* Public school pics from Amazonas, in Northern Brazil:

From the city of Maués, in the interior of Amazonas:

http://www.brasilescola.com/upload/e/mapa-amazonas.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jHwOtSWcLXs/ToUn0kRvVKI/AAAAAAAABmg/Nb4hhtjo5Bk/s1600/Alunos+vespertino.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VXTeZCRMYbo/ToUpssKwNsI/AAAAAAAABmw/BaHtTaJZSyI/s1600/Plat%25C3%25A9ia+atenta.JPG

From Manaus, the capital of Amazonas:

http://www.amazonas.am.gov.br/content/uploads/2011/12/IMG_9991-300x200.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SaAh9KPgfjU/UCuZ7xFg3lI/AAAAAAAAC3I/wTAAdQt2yZU/s1600/DSC08746.JPG

Football supporter crowd pics from Rio Grande do Norte, Northeast Brazil:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Rio_Grande_do_Norte_in_Brazil.svg/250px-Rio_Grande_do_Norte_in_Brazil.svg.png

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/119727.jpg
http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/6BkDWtWi9pBJ9P_93gmU2Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYwMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2013-08-31/816cec0f-2503-4954-b2ff-59b66edf862e_541072_409396719095147_18665199470295 5_1220178_1432866424_n__580x386.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T02eWITvpsM/UT0xGl6u1EI/AAAAAAAAV98/v-JqdD9uR6c/s1600/b.JPG
http://www.srgol.com.br/img.php?id_imagem=7783
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RqoMa3rz_no/Uf7PgCrAa3I/AAAAAAAAAZU/yVFBdH5bo5s/s1600/480775_499099653504280_578238092_n.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MSTyHEXTFOI/T8q7tNUHonI/AAAAAAAAGu4/-4jdMZlGFo0/s1600/SL374624.JPG

[curupira]

Crowd pics from Goiás, in Central West Brazil:

http://mochileiro.tur.br/go%20mapa-goias1.jpg

From the capital Goiânia:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D7uqCZ1A314/TbI0D0NfBfI/AAAAAAAABLk/ZhCnMW_TPmU/s1600/101.jpg
http://www.gazetaesportiva.net/upload/imagem/2013/02/27/t_80061_temporada-do-circuito-caixa-com-12-etapas-tera-inicio-em-abril-na-cidade-de-goiania.jpeg
http://img.terra.com.br/i/2011/05/16/1881866-8200-atm14.jpg
http://im.r7.com/record/files/2C95/948E/381B/50DA/0138/211B/D3FF/33A7/Goi%C3%A2nia.jpg
http://www.2beauty.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/encontro_goiania.jpg
http://www.ibccoaching.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Ibc-Instituto-Brasileiro-de-Coaching-Professional-Self-Coaching-PSC-Goi%C3%A2nia-GO-M%C3%B3dulo-I-de-03-a-06-de-Novembro.jpg
http://www.moreira.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Gibiteca-Jorge-Braga-Goi%C3%A2nia.jpg
http://brasil.indymedia.org/images/2003/03/249690.jpg
http://www.gobgo.org.br/noticias/2008i/imagens/09nov08d.JPG
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ItI9o_810xM/T4mvQPMy42I/AAAAAAAAHDY/dD4u8J1JXR4/s1600/Sem%2Bt%25C3%25ADtuloafasf.jpg
http://www.redentorista.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Foto03_100213.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-r6QkeWXmT0Y/UR1wmcmRUCI/AAAAAAAAM1o/TuDKpk1Xh-c/s1600/carna11_1.jpg
http://p2.trrsf.com.br/image/fget/cf/619/464/img.terra.com.br/i/2012/04/14/2300443-9245-rec.jpg
http://www.estadodegoias.com.br/images/posts/598/aac93813e293153089cb40c8011a1985.jpg
http://www.brasil247.com/get_img?ImageId=270805

[curupira]

Random pics of Ibirapuera park in São Paulo city:


Ibirapuera Park (Portuguese: Parque Ibirapuera) is a major urban park in São Paulo, Brazil. It has a large area for leisure, jogging and walking, as well as a convention center. Its importance to São Paulo is comparable to that of the Central Park to New York City. The Ibirapuera is one of Latin America largest city parks, together with Chapultepec Park, in Mexico City and Simón Bolívar Park in Bogota.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibirapuera

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_n-_cuYY1v6E/S7FDCgEaQ-I/AAAAAAAABmU/jeAf-WW9RX4/s320/Ibirapuera+27.02.JPG
http://www.parqueibirapuera.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ibirapuera2-e1363880246289.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n-_cuYY1v6E/S7FDYbGWbOI/AAAAAAAABmk/DlxIafSSZgA/s1600/Ibirapuera+27.02+%286%29.JPG
http://n.i.uol.com.br/noticia/2012/03/25/paulistanos-aproveitam-sol-e-caminham-no-parque-do-ibirapuera-em-sao-paulo-neste-domingo-1332703982880_956x500.jpg
http://sissi7.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/pratica-e-picnic-no-parque-ibirapuera-peq.jpg
http://www.organicsnet.com.br/wp-content/uploads/ibirapuera.jpeg
http://deliciadeblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/piquenique.jpg
http://angiefeliciano.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/ibira.jpg

[curupira]

Crowd pics from the interior of Santa Catarina (Southern Brazil):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Santa_Catarina_in_Brazil.svg/2000px-Santa_Catarina_in_Brazil.svg.png
http://estados-brasileiros.info/images/stories/santa%20catarina.png

http://wp.clicrbs.com.br/retratistas/files/2012/08/REP6526.jpg
http://contenti1.espn.com.br/image/wide/622_72ca0f43-e72b-3225-8ce7-d62e85deba54.jpg
http://wp.clicrbs.com.br/toquedeletra/files/2013/09/00948a8d.jpg
http://www.clicrbs.com.br/rbs/image/4213984.jpg
http://criciumaec.com.br/upload/galeria/415-460.jpg
http://criciumaec.com.br/upload/galeria/415-462.jpg
http://www.criciumaec.com.br/upload/blog/torcida-tigre_FR%20(6).JPG
http://criciumaec.com.br/upload/galeria/415-461.jpg

[SupaThug]

First.

Really?

[jatt]

neither 1 nor 2

[Tiberio]

* Public school pics from Amazonas, in Northern Brazil:

From the city of Maués, in the interior of Amazonas:

http://www.brasilescola.com/upload/e/mapa-amazonas.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jHwOtSWcLXs/ToUn0kRvVKI/AAAAAAAABmg/Nb4hhtjo5Bk/s1600/Alunos+vespertino.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VXTeZCRMYbo/ToUpssKwNsI/AAAAAAAABmw/BaHtTaJZSyI/s1600/Plat%25C3%25A9ia+atenta.JPG

From Manaus, the capital of Amazonas:

http://www.amazonas.am.gov.br/content/uploads/2011/12/IMG_9991-300x200.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SaAh9KPgfjU/UCuZ7xFg3lI/AAAAAAAAC3I/wTAAdQt2yZU/s1600/DSC08746.JPG

Football supporter crowd pics from Rio Grande do Norte, Northeast Brazil:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Rio_Grande_do_Norte_in_Brazil.svg/250px-Rio_Grande_do_Norte_in_Brazil.svg.png

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/119727.jpg
http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/6BkDWtWi9pBJ9P_93gmU2Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYwMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2013-08-31/816cec0f-2503-4954-b2ff-59b66edf862e_541072_409396719095147_18665199470295 5_1220178_1432866424_n__580x386.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T02eWITvpsM/UT0xGl6u1EI/AAAAAAAAV98/v-JqdD9uR6c/s1600/b.JPG
http://www.srgol.com.br/img.php?id_imagem=7783
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RqoMa3rz_no/Uf7PgCrAa3I/AAAAAAAAAZU/yVFBdH5bo5s/s1600/480775_499099653504280_578238092_n.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MSTyHEXTFOI/T8q7tNUHonI/AAAAAAAAGu4/-4jdMZlGFo0/s1600/SL374624.JPG

I see that most of the people have Amerindian influences, am i right?

[SupaThug]

I see that most of the people have Amerindian influences, am i right?

Yes you are!Photos are from Amazonas(one of the most amerindian states) and from Rio Grande do Norte(one of the least african northeastern states)

[Peter Nirsch]

I think to real Brazilians, like these: http://sites.duke.edu/activizonian/files/2013/12/kayapo.jpg
the others (black and mutts) came from Africa and Europe

[SupaThug]

I think to real Brazilians, like these: http://sites.duke.edu/activizonian/files/2013/12/kayapo.jpg
the others (black and mutts) came from Africa and Europe

They are not ''real brazilians'',since they have their own nations!

[Tiberio]

I think to real Brazilians, like these: http://sites.duke.edu/activizonian/files/2013/12/kayapo.jpg
the others (black and mutts) came from Africa and Europe

The same can be apply for US so.

[Sikeliot]

#1.

Although Brazil is not all like the first photo, I see white Brazilians as "Italians living in Brazil", "Germans living in Brazil", "Portuguese living in Brazil" and I see mulattoes and mixed people as just "Brazilian". I know this will upset people but that is how I see it.

[Ades]

#1.

Although Brazil is not all like the first photo, I see white Brazilians as "Italians living in Brazil", "Germans living in Brazil", "Portuguese living in Brazil" and I see mulattoes and mixed people as just "Brazilian". I know this will upset people but that is how I see it.

Interesting.

And how do you see a Brazilian that is like 90% Portuguese and 10% African/Amerindian?

[Sikeliot]

Interesting.

And how do you see a Brazilian that is like 90% Portuguese and 10% African/Amerindian?

Basically Portuguese but with minor mixture.

[curupira]

Football supporters from Salvador, Bahia, the most African influenced major city of Brazil (it is overall quite mixed though, and nowhere near the most African city outside of Africa as incorrectly portrayed abroad; Detroit, f.e, is easily more African).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Brazil_State_Bahia.svg/350px-Brazil_State_Bahia.svg.png

http://s2.glbimg.com/uxGP1CoRaRXL-gscnpKNBGWkBNcpkEpe18nO9zSItntRy8N7x1SlBabsXkNd4ty L/s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2012/12/17/vitoria.jpg
http://www.tribunadabahia.com.br/upload/images/20120813052938_torcida.jpg
http://i0.statig.com.br/bancodeimagens/co/68/og/co68ogi35dnatfby9bx7s8n44.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--KkNmcPJBSg/UZBGDfjjfxI/AAAAAAAAKJQ/HUbUEfhD99k/s1600/Anivers%C3%A1rio+Bruno+2013+092.jpg
http://www.gazetaesportiva.net/upload/imagem/2013/04/07/t_83529_assim-como-alguns-jogadores-a-torcida-do-vitoria-tripudiou-com-a-goleada-por-5-a-1-na-arena-fonte-nova.jpeg
http://www.lancenet.com.br/vitoria/Torcida-Vitoria-Foto-Felipe-OliveiraEC_LANIMA20121220_0063_26.jpg
http://cdn.jornaldamidia.com.br/portal/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/torcidarubro-negranaarena.jpg?3d1b29
http://blogdokuelho.bk2.com.br/admin/fotos/image/torcida%20do%20vitoria%281%29.jpg
http://imagem.band.com.br/f_170556.jpg
http://www.joseataide.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/torcida23.jpg
http://www.secopa.ba.gov.br/system/files/Torcida%20do%20Vitoria%20-%20Credito%20Alessandra%20Lori%20-%20Ascom%20Secopa.jpg

[curupira]

Football supporter crowds from Porto Alegre, the capital of Rio Grande do Sul in Southern Brazil:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Rio_Grande_do_Sul_in_Brazil.svg/2000px-Rio_Grande_do_Sul_in_Brazil.svg.png

http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2011/05/15/torcidainternacional_gcom_60.jpg
http://e.i.uol.com.br/album/101214tristeza_inter_f_002.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yhJ_dZUZzH8/S-IKAvuJpdI/AAAAAAAADWI/DyVLa7_N9xw/s1600/torcida100.jpg
http://www.jb.com.br/media/fotos/2010/12/14/900x510both/14internacional12.JPG
http://img.terra.com.br/i/2009/12/03/1379221-9909-ga.jpg
http://www.internacional.com.br/imagens/galeria/galeria_foto_030e3a81b2b13735646b3d6384e0aa7b.jpg
http://gremio1903.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/torcida-do-gremio-fernando-gomes-3-11-2008.jpg?w=300&h=351
http://www.clicrbs.com.br/rbs/image/6714889.jpg
http://bloggremio.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/50.jpg
http://img.terra.com.br/i/2011/01/30/1769635-1019-atm14.jpg
http://www.clicrbs.com.br/rbs/image/5194612.jpg

[curupira]

Crowd pics from Sobral, interior of Ceará state (Northeast Brazil):

http://www.guiaviagem.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Mapa-de-Cear%C3%A1.-Wikip%C3%A9dia-Raphael-Lorenzeto-de-Abreu.png

http://lh5.ggpht.com/-33EIrS6oOys/UpDov6SV0xI/AAAAAAAAJBI/RG3YfxkQ9hM/DSCF2146_thumb%25255B7%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2hs3FLFbYuY/Ty_6EoRcN2I/AAAAAAAAAHg/ZdUAo5IU1ls/s1600/DSC00498.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EqCxaGITLJU/Ty_6oKMGa0I/AAAAAAAAAIY/8nK4fX10dXQ/s1600/DSC00510.JPG
http://sobralagora.com.br/v1/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/DSCF3387.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-O6WQyB-ilsE/UfXK_I3G8lI/AAAAAAAAC7I/IZy0REYhhnY/s1600/P1030845.JPG
http://www.adufc.org.br/arquivos/Image/FestaSobral2.jpg
http://www.arretado.com/modulos/galeria/fotos/05-02-2012sobraleternamente/05-02-2012-22:42:38-isobraleternamente/DSC_0455.JPG
http://www.arretado.com/modulos/galeria/fotos/05-02-2012sobraleternamente/05-02-2012-22:42:38-isobraleternamente/DSC_0369.JPG
http://bomdever.com/bomnoticias/TSB/iwebalbumfiles/f9c64f6ccb6642478cecfcbec101beb5.jpg
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/6FvWE9bK1ZY/maxresdefault.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Dz5SJLe7glY/URxLWKqYHEI/AAAAAAAA91Y/jclhfT2CvEE/s1600/DSC_5445.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7gQYaRP4cEg/Ty_7HQaMPBI/AAAAAAAAAI4/5UvtYdYeqXY/s1600/DSC00523.JPG

[curupira]

Crowd pics from Pará (Northern Brazil):

http://i40.tinypic.com/21o9742.jpg

http://msalx.placar.abril.com.br/2013/04/04/1136/H84Hg/00478235.jpeg?1365086319
http://www.folhadobico.com.br/wp-content/arquivo/2012/11/torcidapaysandu_1.jpg
http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/foto/0,,20864899-EX,00.jpg
http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/foto/0,,20864909-EX,00.jpg
http://www.remo100porcento.com/site/arquivos/2013/02/torcida6.jpg
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/MiVBvs-oWhg/hqdefault.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OUgpqMokXEE/UTnmeoLt_LI/AAAAAAAAGZY/KcU5-TER1SQ/s640/IMG_4451.jpg
http://www.portalorm.com.br/recursos/BancoImagens/%7B3FB28030-A71E-4D7C-903C-B8395054BFD9%7D_torcida.jpg
http://www.lancenet.com.br/fotos/Torcida-recebe-Paysandu-festa-aeroporto_LANIMA20121111_0066_47.jpg
http://www.ebc.com.br/sites/default/files/13199__mg_0140.jpg

[Ades]

Basically Portuguese but with minor mixture.

And what about Brazilians that don't have any African and Amerindian admixture, but are not part of a single European ethnic group?

[Sikeliot]

And what about Brazilians that don't have any African and Amerindian admixture, but are not part of a single European ethnic group?

Just "white Brazilian". But to me "Brazilian" by itself is a mixed person. I know it's not accurate but I don't see Gisele Bundchen as "Brazilian", to me she is a German living in Brazil.

[Dictator]

Just "white Brazilian". But to me "Brazilian" by itself is a mixed person. I know it's not accurate but I don't see Gisele Bundchen as "Brazilian", to me she is a German living in Brazil.

Make Curupira use the spoiler tag.

[Manifest Destiny]

When I think of Brazilians, I think of Two Girls, One Cup. I suppose that's a mixture of "number one", "number two", soft serve ice cream, and vomit.

[Dictator]

When I think of Brazilians, I think of Two Girls, One Cup. I suppose that's a mixture of "number one", "number two", soft serve ice cream, and vomit.

It's not like someone forced you to watch scat porn.

[Manifest Destiny]

It's not like someone forced you to watch scat porn.

I think I watched it for the same reason as a lot of other people: I had a friend who told me, "Dude! Look up "Two Girls, One Cup" on the internet! It's crazy!"

Curiosity killed the cat, as the saying goes.

[Smaug]

#1.

Although Brazil is not all like the first photo, I see white Brazilians as "Italians living in Brazil", "Germans living in Brazil", "Portuguese living in Brazil" and I see mulattoes and mixed people as just "Brazilian". I know this will upset people but that is how I see it.

Ridiculous. "Brazilian" is not an ethnicity, it is just a nationality, like "American". You sound like those cunts who claim White Brazilians are not really Brazilian because we are white. We built this coutry bloody hell! What have those niggers done? Nothing!

[Óttar]

When I think of Brazilians, 'two girls one cup' comes to mind.

[SupaThug]

#1.

Although Brazil is not all like the first photo, I see white Brazilians as "Italians living in Brazil", "Germans living in Brazil", "Portuguese living in Brazil" and I see mulattoes and mixed people as just "Brazilian". I know this will upset people but that is how I see it.

I am sorry Sikeliot,but that's your worst comment ever!My maternal grandmother is 100% italian but she is not italian,she is brazilian.My paternal grandfather was 100% spanish,but if talked to him and heard his amerindian influenced accent,how he behaved just like the colonial caipiras you'd see how wrong you are!

[Sikeliot]

I am sorry Sikeliot,but that's your worst comment ever!My maternal grandmother is 100% italian but she is not italian,she is brazilian.My paternal grandfather was 100% spanish,but if talked to him and heard his amerindian influenced accent,how he behaved just like the colonial caipiras you'd see how wrong you are!

I feel that way implicitly because I have grown up surrounded by Brazilians in my town and they all tend to be mixed, and the media portrays a certain image of Brazil so even though to me all Brazilians are 'Brazilian', in my head when I think of Brazil I have a certain image, is all. I hope that makes sense. Americans often do not get to see the distinctly European side of Brazil because it is not showcased as much.

[SupaThug]

I feel that way implicitly because I have grown up surrounded by Brazilians in my town and they all tend to be mixed, and the media portrays a certain image of Brazil so even though to me all Brazilians are 'Brazilian', in my head when I think of Brazil I have a certain image, is all. I hope that makes sense. Americans often do not get to see the distinctly European side of Brazil because it is not showcased as much.

I don't expect the average american to have portuguese ancestry like you do,but you still an american to me.A full blooded italian is more common to Brazil than you are to the US...Brazil is a very big and diverse country and whites are part of it,they are so brazilian as the mixed race ones(I have mixed race ancestry myself).

[Sikeliot]

I don't expect the average american to have portuguese ancestry like you do,but you still an american to me.A full blooded italian is more common to Brazil than you are to the US...Brazil is a very big and diverse country and whites are part of it,they are so brazilian as the mixed race ones(I have mixed race ancestry myself).

I know Brazilians of all different ancestry, I just mean because of how I grew up and the Brazilians I went to school with, in my mind they are what "Brazil" looks like. That's all. I know they aren't representative of the whole country, but that's my first impression.

[SupaThug]

I know Brazilians of all different ancestry, I just mean because of how I grew up and the Brazilians I went to school with, in my mind they are what "Brazil" looks like. That's all. I know they aren't representative of the whole country, but that's my first impression.

I got you.But I still can't understand why is a german brazilian not brazilian but a ''german living in Brazil'',most german brazilians don't even speak german,how can they be german?

[Sikeliot]

I got you.But I still can't understand why is a german brazilian not brazilian but a ''german living in Brazil'',most german brazilians don't even speak german,how can they be german?

Because I think of Brazilians at least as looking "Med" if they're white, not like Gisele Bundchen.

[SupaThug]

Because I think of Brazilians at least as looking "Med" if they're white, not like Gisele Bundchen.

Then you are going by stereotypes!You don't look like a stereotypical white american,but you still an american.Gisele Bundchen is not a ''german living in Brazil'' .

[Sikeliot]

Then you are going by stereotypes!You don't look like a stereotypical white american,but you still an american.Gisele Bundchen is not a ''german living in Brazil'' .

A lot of Americans have thought I was foreign because of my look. So I am well aware .

[SupaThug]

A lot of Americans have thought I was foreign because of my look. So I am well aware .

But you still an american,like Gisele Bundchen is brazilian.

[Sikeliot]

But you still an american,like Gisele Bundchen is brazilian.

Yes, even though I don't think either of us would be viewed as "typical".

[SupaThug]

Yes, even though I don't think either of us would be viewed as "typical".

But you said that german brazilians are ''germans living in Brazil'' and this is very incorrect.

[Leo Iscariot]

The 2nd.

[AverageKorhonen]

I have just changed my views about Brazilians. I thought they'd have to be darker.

[Smaug]

But you still an american,like Gisele Bundchen is brazilian.

Sikeliot seems to forget that Brazil has the third largest German community in the world, only after Germany itself and the US.

[SupaThug]

Sikeliot seems to forget that Brazil has the third largest German community in the world, only after Germany itself and the US.

Yeah,germans are a integral part in Brazil's ethnic makeup(especially in Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina),they have very traditional communities in many states.I can't see how a german brazilian is just ''a german living in Brazil''...it's a alien mentality to me.

[Régis Veiga]

Second

[Porpolita]

#1.

Although Brazil is not all like the first photo, I see white Brazilians as "Italians living in Brazil", "Germans living in Brazil", "Portuguese living in Brazil" and I see mulattoes and mixed people as just "Brazilian". I know this will upset people but that is how I see it.

I am sorry Sikeliot,but that's your worst comment ever!My maternal grandmother is 100% italian but she is not italian,she is brazilian.My paternal grandfather was 100% spanish,but if talked to him and heard his amerindian influenced accent,how he behaved just like the colonial caipiras you'd see how wrong you are!

I agree with LESM and Smaug

This is an example of Sikeliot trolling Brazil. You should also see some of the things Sikeliot said about Portugal yesterday. And comments he made about Spain and other countries in the past. He should know better. He knows what he is saying is wrong, but he prefers to show his ignorance.

Its a shame because he is otherwise an intelligent person when he does not disrespect random countries:

[SupaThug]

I agree with LESM and Smaug

This is an example of Sikeliot trolling Brazil. You should also see some of the things Sikeliot said about Portugal yesterday. And comments he made about Spain and other countries in the past. He should know better. He knows what he is saying is wrong, but he prefers to show his ignorance.

Its a shame because he is otherwise an intelligent person when he does not disrespect random countries:

I saw some of his comments about Spain...What has he said about Portugal?