PDA

View Full Version : Sousse: extreme genetic heterogeneity in North Africa



Kamal900
02-01-2015, 04:03 PM
Journal of Human Genetics (2015) 60, 41–49; doi:10.1038/jhg.2014.99; published online 4 December 2014

History

In historical times, because of its location on the main maritime roads of the Mediterranean, Tunisia has been settled successively by many diversed populations including Phoenicians, Romans, Vandals and Byzantines. By the end of the seventh century, Muslim armies from the Arabian Peninsula invaded North Africa and reached the region known today as Tunisia. In the late tenth century, Tunisia also experience an important movement of Arab populations, mostly Bedouin.6, 7 Therefore, it is likely that migrations and admixture processes might have played a pivotal role in shaping the peopling of Tunisia, particularly in coastal cities. In addition, because of its numerous small, isolated indigenous populations, Tunisia represents an interesting region to explore inter population relationships. Indeed, European, Near Eastern and sub-Saharan contributions to contemporary Tunisian populations during prehistory and historic times have been diverse.

Today, Tunisia has a population of about 11 millions represented by Berbers, Arabs, Andalusians, Jews, Europeans and people of sub-Saharan origins. Tunisian cosmopolitan populations are situated on coastal locations. One of such city is Sousse, founded in the eleventh century B.C. as Hadrumetum by the Phoenicians it developed into an important center within the Carthaginian dominion. Sousse soon became the most important trading post on the North African coastline. Through history Hadrumetum came under the control of a number major cultures including the Vandals after the fall of the Roman Empire in the sixth century and later by the Byzantines that renamed it Hunerikopolis and Justinianopolis, respectively. The city became one of the most important Byzantine bases in North Africa. In the seventh century, the Arabs conquered the city renaming it Susa and introducing the Islamic religion and Arabic language.8 The city became a prosperous seaport during the Islamic Aghlabid Dynasty, which occupied and controlled Northern Africa for several centuries.

Subsequently, Sousse was invaded by the Normans of Sicily in the twelveth century9 followed by the Spanish. During the sixteenth century, Sousse received additional, but limited, contributions from the Ottoman Turks. Later, the city came under the control of the French, who once again renamed it to its current name of Sousse.10 Considering this complex history, the expectation is that the genetic landscape of Sousse has been shaped by varying degrees of influences from the above listed invaders who occupied the region in different periods of its history. In addition, Sousse is the most ancient settlement in Tunisia with uninterrupted habitation since its foundation by the Phoenicians.11 Towns such as Carthage and Utique, also established by the Phoenicians,12, 13 were destroyed and their population dispersed. Berber groups, on the other hand, have been rather isolated, since their towns and villages were not located on the coast.14 Studies on Tunisian cosmopolitan populations often examine Tunis which was founded later than Sousse and does not provide a prolong continuous antiquity. Hence, the case of the Sousse population represents an unique case study in population genetics. Despite its historical importance and strategic location, only one molecular genetics study has been performed on this anthropological interesting population.

Y-chromosome lineage diversity

The partitioning of paternal lineages and their frequencies are displayed in a hierarchical phylogeny in Figure 1. The 220 Sousse Y-chromosomes represent 24 different haplogroups, the majority of them belonging to haplogroups E and J that account for 90% of our dataset (E; 56% and J; 34%) (Supplementary Table S3). The predominant E sublineage, also commonly found in other North African populations,18, 19, 20, 21, 22 is E-M81. All E-M81 derived chromosome are in subhaplogroup E-M183 (44.55%). Besides the common E-M81 lineage, traces of other lineages within the major E-M215 haplogroup were detected including E-M35, E-M78 and E-M123. These lineages are also found at various frequencies throughout North and East Africa. Haplogroup E-M78 which has a wide distribution, including Europe, the Near East and North Africa,20 is mostly represented by subhaplogroup E-V65 (4.09%), with the exception of two individuals that belong to subhaplogroups E-V13 and E-V22 (0.45% each). Lineage E-M123, on the other hand, is detected at low frequency (1.82%). It is interesting that the E-M2 clade which is particularly frequent in sub-Saharan Africa33, 34 and present in some North African populations most likely as a result of sub-Saharan migration18, 19, 35, is not detected in the Sousse samples.

The frequency of haplogroup E-M81 (Figure 2a), for example, is much higher in northwestern Africa particularly in Tunisian and moderate in the Near East and Europe. On the other hand, the frequencies of haplogroups E-M78 and E-M123 are much higher in northeast Africa exhibiting a focal point of extreme frequencies in Egypt-Palestine (Figures 2b and c, respectively). The J-M267 lineage is prevalent in all North African and Levantine groups (Figure 2d). In North Africa, J-M267 exhibits the highest frequency in Andalusians from Zaghouan. It is also found at relatively high frequency in the Levantine samples.

http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v60/n1/images/jhg201499f2.jpg

Genetic structure

To explore the genetic relationships among the populations of Sousse, Tunisia as a whole and the 23 other geographically targeted populations obtained from the literature (Supplementary Table S1), we performed a PCA based on haplogroup frequencies (Supplementary Table S2). The first two components of the PCA account for 55.18% of the variation and reveal distinct geographical partitioning (Figure 4a). The North African populations form a cluster located in the upper-left portion of the plot, except for the Egyptians that lie closest to Palestinians to the lower right. This cluster of North African populations is defined by the predominance of haplogroup E-M81. In contrast, Egyptians are characterized by high frequency of the E-M78 haplogroup and the absence of the E-M81 lineage.

Within the North Africa cluster, the Sousse sample is close to the Cosmopolitans and Andalusians Tunisian groups and the general populations from neighboring states, namely Libya, Algeria and Morocco. The Tunisian Berber collections form a tide conglomerate isolated in the upper-left corner of the graph. The sub-Saharan Africans which possess higher frequencies of haplogroups B-M96, A-M91, E-M2 and E*-M96 lie close to each other in the lower left of the plot. The PCA also illustrate the genetic affinity of Levantine populations to Europeans especially Italians. In fact, both groups present relatively high frequencies of J-M172 and share some other lineages in particular I-M170 and T-M70.

http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v60/n1/images/jhg201499f4.jpg

The populations were also contrasted using Rst estimates (Supplementary Table S4) computed from the 10 loci Y-STR haplotypes and plotted using multidimensional scaling (MDS) (Figure 4b). The MDS illustrate similar general features as the PCA, including the North Africans cluster close to Near Easterners with the Sousse population partitioning similarly relative to the other groups as well as the Egyptians affinity to the Palestinians. Yet in the MDS the Near Easterners and Tuareg segregate towards sub-Saharan Africans which, like in the PCA graph, aggregate in the lower-left corner of the plot distant from all other populations.

Discussion

Our results indicate that the frequency of the E-M81 haplogroup in the region of Sousse is relatively lower than in Berber group; it reaches a value of 45%, comparable with the values detected in the Cosmopolitan population from Tunis and Andalusians.21 This frequency range of 36–45% of E-M81 in these Cosmopolitan and Andalusian Tunisian populations is consistent with a strong common Berber back-ground that gives the typical profile to North African populations that aggregate in the same clusters in the PC and MDS analyses. However, depending on the Berber or Cosmopolitan status, North African populations can be classified into subclusters. This observation is in agreement with the analyses of molecular variance analyses that indicate significant differences in molecular variance for both SNP and STR marker systems (17.65 Pless than or equal to0.05 and 1.64 Pless than or equal to0.05, respectively) between Cosmopolitans and Berbers. In all of these parameters, the Sousse population exhibits characteristics of a highly genetically diverse North African population.

The E-M81 lineage exhibits a star-like network structure (Figure 3a), which suggests an ancient evolution. This network exhibits apparent rapid expansion at some point that may be explained by loss of diversity due to genetic drift. Indeed, most of the STR haplotypes belonging to the E-M81 haplogroup are shared among various North African communities without obvious genetic structure relative to geography.

In our previous work performed on Tunisian populations, this haplogroup was dated to 7.4±5.5 kya in the Neolithic, comparable with the age estimated in this study (5.7±3.9 kya), and by Arredi and collaborators.19 However, considering the high level of genetic drift typically experienced by uniparental marker systems such as the Y-chromosome, it is possible that the E-M81 haplogroup had a more ancient genesis in North Africa.

Along with the high prevalence of E-M81 in Sousse, we observed the E-M78 mutation at low frequency (5%). In contrast to the above-mentioned E-M81 haplogroup, E-M78 has a wide geographic distribution with its highest frequency observed in the Egypto-Palestinian area. It is detected at lower frequencies in Northwest Africa and is particularly observed in Andalusians and Cosmopolitans rather than Berbers. This suggests an east to west gene flow with greater penetration into the Cosmopolitan populations of North Africa.

A more recent potential Middle Eastern genetic contribution to the North Africa gene pool may be associated with the expansion of the Ottoman Empire. Sousse also may have been specifically impacted by the Turkish occupation of North Africa. Yet, the unique presence of J-M172 in Sousse and its absence from other Tunisian regions that were under Ottoman influence argues for J-M172 in Sousse as a Phoenician signal. Further, Sousse exhibits another haplogroup, T-M184, that is not detected in any other North African population attesting again to the Phoenicians contribution to that population. Haplogroup T-M184 is more common today in East Africa and it is thought to signal the spread of agriculture from the Fertile Crescent. Indeed, the oldest subclades and the greatest diversity of T-M184 are found in the Middle East, especially within the Fertile Crescent. Yet, T-M184 could also have been dispersed throughout the Mediterranean basin by the Phoenicians (1200–800 before the common era).

In conclusion, the analysis of admixed populations represents an unique opportunity to examine the impact of multiple migrations into a region. Within a historical context, both population isolation and admixture have had a considerable impact on the Tunisian population structure. The wide range of paternal lineages present in our Sousse population indicates a diverse origin. Indeed the genetic structure observed of paternal lineages in Sousse is more diversified than any other studied Tunisian population and reflects largely the influence of successive migrations since its foundation by the Phoenician

More --> http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v60/n1/full/jhg201499a.html

What do you guys think?

Yuffayur
02-01-2015, 04:24 PM
The title is exagerated lol.
"Extreme hetereogeinty" and 90% of people belong to two haplogroups lol.

Anyway it's normal, they have typical results.

If you add more R1b, they have similar results to pre-colonial guanches.

Yuffayur
02-01-2015, 04:24 PM
http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v60/n1/images/jhg201499f1.jpg

Kamal900
02-01-2015, 04:28 PM
The title is exagerated lol.
"Extreme hetereogeinty" and 90% of people belong to two haplogroups lol.

Anyway it's normal, they have typical results.

If you add more R1b, they have similar results to pre-colonial guanches.

Yeah, that's what the title said anyway. It would seem that the genetic structure of North Africans is the same as last year's study where Egyptians cluster the closest to us and Berbers and etc form their own cluster but still closer to the middle east than to Europe. I dont find all that shocking to be honest but there are some people here who cant accept that simple truth.

StonyArabia
02-01-2015, 04:29 PM
I think Libya has gotten the most Bedouin admixture in North Africa. Though they are still largely derive from Berbers for the most part. The Bedouin impact gets smaller as one moves from west to west. We know that Shia Bedouins invaded North Africa, when the Berber Zirids converted to Sunnism, and this was punishment by the Fatamids to let these Shia Bedouin tribes enter. These Shia Bedouin tribes like the Hialis could not maintain their sectarian or even tribal affilation and so got intermingled with the more larger Berbers. The only legacy was they Arabized North Africa in the 10th century once again, and brought Arab culture to the region. Also North Africa had strong contact with the Levant, and the Med, as well in general the regions around it. So it's no wonder that North Africans will show various ancestries that have come and intermingled with the native population.

Yuffayur
02-01-2015, 04:36 PM
Yeah, that's what the title said anyway. It would seen that the genetic structure of North Africans is the same as last year's study where Egyptians cluster the closest to us and Berbers and etc form their own cluster but still closer to the middle east than to Europe. I dont find all that shocking to be honest but there are some people here who cant accept that simple truth.

it's because they use the data from old studies, and if you search in the study you will see that Egypt, Palestine and other are the same, the just added new populations, indeed Egyptians, especially Deltans have similar haplogroups to Palis, the only differences, would be the high E in Egypt, and J in Palestine and the Mt-dna.

Kamal900
02-01-2015, 04:36 PM
I think Libya has gotten the most Bedouin admixture in North Africa. Though they are still largely derive from Berbers for the most part. The Bedouin impact gets smaller as one moves from west to west. We know that Shia Bedouins invaded North Africa, when the Berber Zirids converted to Sunnism, and this was punishment by the Fatamids to let these Shia Bedouin tribes enter. These Shia Bedouin tribes like the Hialis could not maintain their sectarian or even tribal affilation and so got intermingled with the more larger Berbers. The only legacy was they Arabized North Africa in the 10th century once again, and brought Arab culture to the region. Also North Africa had strong contact with the Levant, and the Med, as well in general the regions around it. So it's no wonder that North Africans will show various ancestries that have come and intermingled with the native population.

True

Kamal900
02-01-2015, 04:41 PM
it's because they use the data from old studies, and if you search in the study you will see that Egypt, Palestine and other are the same, the just added new populations, indeed Egyptians, especially Deltans have similar haplogroups to Palis, the only differences, would be the high E in Egypt, and J in Palestine and the Mt-dna.

I suppose that's true, but anyway, i don't think that any peoples are 100 percent pure or anything esp us Palestinians. Besides, Palestine is neighbors to Egypt and Northern Arabia so it isnt surprising that we cluster with them more so than to other peoples in the Levant though i dont deny on the fact that we're genetically levantine with admixture and etc from our neighbors.

Yuffayur
02-01-2015, 04:46 PM
The maps in the study are not very correct, for example M123 is very high in Sahrawis, I don't remember the exact number but it's more than 10% while the map show that's inexistant.
M81 is not correct, I think they used few studies, because usually M81 in NW Africa is +70%
the maps are incorrect.

Yuffayur
02-01-2015, 04:48 PM
I suppose that's true, but anyway, i don't think that any peoples are 100 percent pure or anything esp us Palestinians. Besides, Palestine is neighbors to Egypt and Northern Arabia so it isnt surprising that we cluster with them more so than to other peoples in the Levant though i dont deny on the fact that we're genetically levantine with admixture and etc from our neighbors.

I never believed in something called purness or 100ness like I call it.
You're Levantines, genetically, culturally and phenotypically, anyone who says the contrary should be killed.
btw Chenini douiret are 100% M81 lol.

Kamal900
02-01-2015, 04:52 PM
I never believed in something called purness or 100ness like I call it.
You're Levantines, genetically, culturally and phenotypically, anyone who says the contrary should be killed.
btw Chenini douiret are 100% M81 lol.

Thanks dude :) Anyway, in terms of phenotype of NA, i think Tunisians look the closest to us but i guess that Tunisia is perhaps more diverse than other countries in the region. Yeah, the berbers of Tunisia seem to be pure due to their endagomous nature in their traditions and culture.

Yuffayur
02-01-2015, 04:59 PM
Some notas about the study

-M78 is very high in N-E Africa (Southern Egypt, Ethiopia) etc not the northern part(Delto-palestinian).
-M81 is not absent in Egypt, it's found in all the territory, it goes crescendo from South to North.
-M78 can't be considered as Near Eastern, since it originated somewhere in N-E Africa.
--the subclade E-V65 is North African, it originated in Libya.
--V22 is a Deltan-Libyan Subclade, it originated somewhere in western Egypt.
--V13 is Northern African/Southern Levantine it's debated.
-J in Northern Africa is ancient before the arrival of Phoenicians, it was found in Ancient Egypt, and Guanches.

StonyArabia
02-01-2015, 05:01 PM
Thanks dude :) Anyway, in terms of phenotype of NA, i think Tunisians look the closest to us but i guess that Tunisia is perhaps more diverse than other countries in the region. Yeah, the berbers of Tunisia seem to be pure due to their endagomous nature in their traditions and culture.

Libyans seem to have strong Arabian component to them. They tend to be shorter and darker than the other North Africans which might be due to Arabian influence. For the most part Libyans can pass in the Bedouin belt, but once you hit Tunisia the people there look less Arabian, by the time you go to Morocco and Algeria it the same.

Yuffayur
02-01-2015, 05:01 PM
Thanks dude :) Anyway, in terms of phenotype of NA, i think Tunisians look the closest to us but i guess that Tunisia is perhaps more diverse than other countries in the region. Yeah, the berbers of Tunisia seem to be pure due to their endagomous nature in their traditions and culture.

Your welcome, Tunisians are all the same according to people here (Southmed + Berberid) lol.
I believe the 100% is due to the endogamy and a strong founder effect.

Kamal900
02-01-2015, 05:23 PM
Your welcome, Tunisians are all the same according to people here (Southmed + Berberid) lol.
I believe the 100% is due to the endogamy and a strong founder effect.

It does get very annoying when members here classify the person's phenotype based on his/her ethnicity. I mean, i have been to Tunisia many times of my life, and believe me, they dont look all that different from my people. There are of course berberid and south med phenotypes in Tunisia but also they have other phenotypes that makes them very similar to the genetic isolates of the Levant like the Druze. Besides, the Syrian, Jordanian and Palestinians belong to the same branch as other NAs, Arabians, Ethiopians and etc, so when people keep classifying ALL levantines as purely east-Mediterranean is very biased and funny all at the same time.

"The population tree (Figure 3A) splits Levantine populations in two branches: one leading to Europeans and Central Asians that includes Lebanese, Armenians, Cypriots, Druze and Jews, as well as Turks, Iranians and Caucasian populations; and a second branch composed of Palestinians, Jordanians, Syrians, as well as North Africans, Ethiopians, Saudis, and Bedouins.

The tree shows a correlation between religion and the population structures in the Levant: all Jews (Sephardi and Ashkenazi) cluster in one branch; Druze from Mount Lebanon and Druze from Mount Carmel are depicted on a private branch; and Lebanese Christians form a private branch with the Christian populations of Armenia and Cyprus placing the Lebanese Muslims as an outer group. The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen. It should be noted here that the results depend significantly on populations included in the analysis as well as recent admixture events, and so should be treated as an approximate guide to similarity, rather than a full population history."
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?156094-Genome-Wide-Diversity-in-the-Levant-Reveals-Recent-Structuring-by-Culture

People here do tend to bash the Moroccans and other Maghareb people a lot when they keep calling them mulattoes and etc, but i NEVER had any problems with the Moroccans and etc in NA or here even, and really, i like them a hell a lot more than the Lebanese or Syrians(we hate the Lebanese and we hate the Baath party in the levant for their killings against my people and etc). I love going to Tangier with my family members a lot and i don't really find the people there alien or anything like that.

Yuffayur
02-01-2015, 05:31 PM
It does get very annoying when members here classify the person's phenotype based on his/her ethnicity. I mean, i have been to Tunisia many times of my life, and believe me, they dont look all that different from my people. There are of course berberid and south med phenotypes in Tunisia but also they have other phenotypes that makes them very similar to the genetic isolates of the Levant like the Druze. Besides, the Syrian, Jordanian and Palestinians belong to the same branch as other NAs, Arabians, Ethiopians and etc, so when people keep classifying ALL levantines as purely east-Mediterranean is very biased and funny all at the same time.

"The population tree (Figure 3A) splits Levantine populations in two branches: one leading to Europeans and Central Asians that includes Lebanese, Armenians, Cypriots, Druze and Jews, as well as Turks, Iranians and Caucasian populations; and a second branch composed of Palestinians, Jordanians, Syrians, as well as North Africans, Ethiopians, Saudis, and Bedouins.

The tree shows a correlation between religion and the population structures in the Levant: all Jews (Sephardi and Ashkenazi) cluster in one branch; Druze from Mount Lebanon and Druze from Mount Carmel are depicted on a private branch; and Lebanese Christians form a private branch with the Christian populations of Armenia and Cyprus placing the Lebanese Muslims as an outer group. The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen. It should be noted here that the results depend significantly on populations included in the analysis as well as recent admixture events, and so should be treated as an approximate guide to similarity, rather than a full population history."
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?156094-Genome-Wide-Diversity-in-the-Levant-Reveals-Recent-Structuring-by-Culture

People here do tend to bash the Moroccans and other Maghareb people a lot when they keep calling them mulattoes and etc, but i NEVER had any problems with the Moroccans and etc in NA or here even, and really, i like them a hell a lot more than the Lebanese or Syrians(we hate the Lebanese and we hate the Baath party in the levant for their killings against my people and etc). I love going to Tangier with my family members a lot and i don't really find the people there alien or anything like that.


I don't have any problem with mulattos I prefer being assomiliated with them than with some pseudo racist european groups, here North Africa is part of Africa, and Africa is (Black) nigger like they call it, so North Africa = Black. anyway I don't have any problem with any group, I have an individualistic view not a group view I don't judge people based on their look or ethnic group, but rated their personality, I have friends from all over the world,btw there are few Levantines here, we have more Iraqis and Kurds.

Kamal900
02-01-2015, 05:43 PM
I don't have any problem with mulattos I prefer being assomiliated with them than with some pseudo racist european groups, here North Africa is part of Africa, and Africa is (Black) nigger like they call it, so North Africa = Black. anyway I don't have any problem with any group, I have an individualistic view not a group view I don't judge people based on their look or ethnic group, but rated their personality, I have friends from all over the world,btw there are few Levantines here, we have more Iraqis and Kurds.

Are you living in Europe or Morocco?

Isleño
02-02-2015, 03:34 AM
If you add more R1b, they have similar results to pre-colonial guanches.

The R1b among the Guanches was at 10%. Here are the Y-chromosome haplogroup breakdown for pre-colonial Guanche aborigines of the Canary Islands: E1b1b1b (26.67%) E1b1b1a (23.33%), J1 (16.67%). Minority haplogroups were K (10.00%), R1b1b2 (10.00%), I (6.67%), E1a (3.33%), P (3.33%).

The Guanches were dominated by E-M81, E-M78 and J-M267.



Here's a chart with the percentages (aboriginal Guanches totals are listed under ABO:)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/SnfiYPdwxeI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/mso6Joa8an8/s1600/canary.jpg


Source:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/SnfiYPdwxeI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/mso6Joa8an8/s1600/canary.jpg

Kamal900
02-02-2015, 05:14 AM
The R1b among the Guanches was at 10%. Here are the Y-chromosome haplogroup breakdown for pre-colonial Guanche aborigines of the Canary Islands: E1b1b1b (26.67%) E1b1b1a (23.33%), J1 (16.67%). Minority haplogroups were K (10.00%), R1b1b2 (10.00%), I (6.67%), E1a (3.33%), P (3.33%).

The Guanches were dominated by E-M81, E-M78 and J-M267.



Here's a chart with the percentages (aboriginal Guanches totals are listed under ABO:)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/SnfiYPdwxeI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/mso6Joa8an8/s1600/canary.jpg


Source:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/SnfiYPdwxeI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/mso6Joa8an8/s1600/canary.jpg

Thanks for the info. Anyway, whats your opinion about the study?

Jerban
02-02-2015, 04:29 PM
Interesting, I have already seen this study, I think they can't be more typical lol. I believe if they test Tunis they will find some Sardinian I, due to Sardinian renegats like the actual president.

Yuffayur
02-02-2015, 06:07 PM
Are you living in Europe or Morocco?

Belgium.

Yuffayur
02-02-2015, 06:09 PM
The R1b among the Guanches was at 10%. Here are the Y-chromosome haplogroup breakdown for pre-colonial Guanche aborigines of the Canary Islands: E1b1b1b (26.67%) E1b1b1a (23.33%), J1 (16.67%). Minority haplogroups were K (10.00%), R1b1b2 (10.00%), I (6.67%), E1a (3.33%), P (3.33%).

The Guanches were dominated by E-M81, E-M78 and J-M267.



Here's a chart with the percentages (aboriginal Guanches totals are listed under ABO:)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/SnfiYPdwxeI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/mso6Joa8an8/s1600/canary.jpg


Source:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/SnfiYPdwxeI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/mso6Joa8an8/s1600/canary.jpg

Cool, thanks for the chart, I thought they were more R-V88, but apparently they'rent, E1a is found in Northern Africa as similar % the M78 is probably the subclade V65 with minor or no V22/V13, I hope they retest them with more SNP, in this way we can define their suclades.

Isleño
02-02-2015, 06:58 PM
Thanks for the info. Anyway, whats your opinion about the study?I think much of it is accurate, but I find a few things that seem out of place to me from what I know and actually Yuffayur pointed them out in a previous post. But other than that, it's a decent study on the residents of the city of Sousse despite a few inconsistencies in the study.

Isleño
02-02-2015, 07:06 PM
Cool, thanks for the chart, I thought they were more R-V88, but apparently they'rent, E1a is found in Northern Africa as similar % the M78 is probably the subclade V65 with minor or no V22/V13, I hope they retest them with more SNP, in this way we can define their suclades.

Yes, I also hope they create a new study with more SNP's. I also believe the M78 is subclade V65. It's believed there were about 2 waves of Berbers that entered the Canary Islands at two different time periods from two different parts of North Africa, so the result we are seeing would be the mixing of those two groups. I think the Guanches have such mystery behind them.