Barcelona, Spain

[Loki]

Why does this picture give me a Cairo vibe? :confused:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150129154135-25-top-citites-0129-super-169.jpg

[Graham]

The architecture in Barcelona is very nice with their own peculiar designs, the picture is a little misleading to how I remember it. ,


http://www.tefl-iberia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/eixample-barcelona.jpghttp://www.airpano.ru/files/barcelona_02_big.jpg

[Loki]

Yeah, it wasn't a nice picture. I ike the cathedral. Want to visit it one day.

[Gustave H]

Looks like average Spain. Cairo is superior to this.

[Minesweeper]

Don't know how the suburbs look but the city is one of the best examples of urban planning in the world.

[Graham]

Yeah, it wasn't a nice picture. I ike the cathedral. Want to visit it one day.

In the photo is the Sagrada Família. Which symbolises Barcelona being Gaudi. It's fucking massive! such an impressive building worth seeing.

Haven't been to Cairo.

[B01AB20]

In the photo is the Sagrada Família. Which symbolises Barcelona being Gaudi. It's fucking massive! such an impressive building worth seeing.

Haven't been to Cairo.

then imagine when the temple will be ended. In 2026 they say.

http://images.ara.cat/societat/video-ensenya-Sagrada-Familia-acabada_ARAVID20130926_0005_27.png
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fa/c7/79/fac779bbea197effbb6274230452f9fa.jpg
http://www.metalocus.es/content/es/system/files/file-images/ml_sagradafamilia_02_1200.png

[Graham]

then imagine when the temple will be ended. In 2026 they say.


haha holy! Well it is rare to not have it in scaffolding!..

[Vasconcelos]

Looks like average Spain. Cairo is superior to this.

I bet you're yet to visit either of them.

[Comte Arnau]

Was it necessary to write "Spain" in the title, Loki? :fhmm:

[Cristiano viejo]

Was it necessary to write "Spain" in the title, Loki? :fhmm:

:laugh2::rotfl::laugh::lol:

[Graham]

Was it necessary to write "Spain" in the title, Loki? :fhmm:

Loki's a trolling bastard. lol Nae wonder he sacked all the Admins. Free reign dictatorship to troll us. haha;)

[Comte Arnau]

:laugh2::rotfl::laugh::lol:

Laugh while you can. And keep laughing if in two years the thread must be retitled. He who laughs last laughs best.

[Sikeliot]

Cairo looks much more chaotic and less orderly in my opinion.

[Mark]

Maybe from a distant aerial view gives way to that vibe. But when you're there, it doesn't look like anything other than Spain.

[Cristiano viejo]

Maybe from a distant aerial view gives way to that vibe. But when you're there, it doesn't look like anything other than Spain.
very good Mark +1 :laugh2::rotfl::laugh::lol:

[Comte Arnau]

very good Mark +1 :laugh2::rotfl::laugh::lol:

Enjoying the guiris' ignorance so much just shows that you know it's not true. :coffee:

[Mark]

very good Mark +1 :laugh2::rotfl::laugh::lol:


Enjoying the guiris' ignorance so much just shows that you know it's not true. :coffee:

I think you guys completely misinterpreted what I wrote.
I just meant that Spain should not to be compared to other places other than Spain. My intentions were good.

[щрбл]

I was there 3 years ago. The picture in the title is indeed misleading. It looked extremely organized for a southern city.

[Cristiano viejo]

Enjoying the guiris' ignorance so much just shows that you know it's not true. :coffee:

Yes, you have reason... for that most of Barcelonese people are not semi-Andalusians or another kind f charnegos, true? for that EVERYBODY speak in Castilian, true? even Peyrol said it in your face mientras yo me descojonaba de cómo tus mentiras las coge la gente.
But hey, you should be grateful that Loki said Spain instead of Egypt, or Qatar or something so.

[Comte Arnau]

Yes, you have reason... for that most of Barcelonese people are not semi-Andalusians or another kind f charnegos, true? for that EVERYBODY speak in Castilian, true? even Peyrol said it in your face mientras yo me descojonaba de cómo tus mentiras las coge la gente.
But hey, you should be grateful that Loki said Spain instead of Egypt, or Qatar or something so.

This is about the city, not the citizens. Leave your inferiority complex aside for a while.

[Cristiano viejo]

This is about the city, not the citizens. Leave your inferiority complex aside for a while.
Me, complex? I am not who corrected, or trying, Loki.
This is about citizens, about culture, about architecture, about everything. And sorry for you, everybody feels as Spain :mocking:

[Gustave H]

I bet you're yet to visit either of them.

Your assumption is quite false, old sport.

[Lábaru]

Laugh while you can. And keep laughing if in two years the thread must be retitled. He who laughs last laughs best.

Indapandasa imparabla, ya casi la tenéis, casi.

Arnaldo, ¿sabes por qué hay trazados diagonales en el plano de Barcelona/España cuando originalmente eran todos en modo de cuadrícula?

[Comte Arnau]

Me, complex? I am not who corrected, or trying, Loki.

Not trying to correct, just surprised. And your childish complex is detectable from an hour distance, but you can't do anything about it, don't worry.


This is about citizens, about culture, about architecture, about everything.

Barcelona is the name of a city. If it was about the citizens, it'd be Barcelonans.

And it's precisely in the architecture, the design, the cultural elements, when educated people can see that it is not a Spanish city.


And sorry for you, everybody feels as Spain :mocking:

You don't seem to believe forumites when they say that Spain feels as Morocco. Why should you believe them now? :rolleyes:

[Comte Arnau]

You're the one who brought politics into this thread. If you hadn't revealed your insecurity by whining to Loki about the title this thread would be about the city instead of a flame war.

Vés a prendre pel cul. :coffee:

[Cristiano viejo]

Not trying to correct, just surprised. And your childish complex is detectable from an hour distance, but you can't do anything about it, don't worry.
Great argument :rolleyes:



Barcelona is the name of a city. If it was about the citizens, it'd be Barcelonans.
Thanks for that invaluable information :rolleyes:
From the Carthaginian Amílcar Barca, am I right? :icon_lol:


And it's precisely in the architecture, the design, the cultural elements, when educated people can see that it is not a Spanish city.
False.


You don't seem to believe forumites when they say that Spain feels as Morocco. Why should you believe them now? :rolleyes:
Who did you say I dont believe in that?

[B01AB20]

Vés a prendre pel cul. :coffee:

man, your behaviour in this thread is lamenteibol :(

you lose your nerves very easily, who would say it.

[Comte Arnau]

Great argument :rolleyes:

It's not only me in the forum to have detected it, man.


Thanks for that invaluable information :rolleyes:

You're welcome.


False.

True. There are obvious historical differences in the architecture between the Crown of Aragon and the Crown of Castile, apart from a much higher influence of French and Italian styles in the Catalan area. Castile is more original, in that sense. Not to mention the 20th-century modernisme style, the Cerdà street layout, advanced to its time, and a large number of other minor details. But anyway, this is serious stuff that doesn't matter to you, just go on with your bullshit and decorate it with some smileys.


Who did you say I dont believe in that?

Your comments. But if you do believe that Spain/Spaniards look like Morocco/Moroccans, then I stand corrected, I thought you didn't.

[Cristiano viejo]

It's not only me in the forum to have detected it, man.
Ah yes, my haters. Good examples :rolleyes:


You're welcome.
No comments about the Phoenician origin of Barcelona? humm



True. There are obvious historical differences in the architecture between the Crown of Aragon and the Crown of Castile, apart from a much higher influence of French and Italian styles in the Catalan area. Castile is more original, in that sense. Not to mention the 20th-century modernisme style, the Cerdà street layout, advanced to its time, and a large number of other minor details. But anyway, this is serious stuff that doesn't matter to you, just go on with your bullshit and decorate it with some smileys.
wtf!! and how much architecture of the Aragonese crown does remain in Barcelona???????? :picard1:



Your comments. But if you do believe that Spain/Spaniards look like Morocco/Moroccans, then I stand corrected, I thought you didn't.
Catalans included. In fact, the new Califato of Qatarunya is coming, and I am sure you like it.
But you are not serious here, and you are a demagogue. Mark was being serious and sincere, unlike all these retards who say that Spaniards are Moors. You was butthurt and then viva la demagogia :rolleyes:

[Comte Arnau]

No comments about the Phoenician origin of Barcelona? humm

Comment on a legend with no foundation? If I had to comment every stupid thing you say...

Barcelona, like Tarragona and many others, were founded by Romans upon (or beside) previous Iberian settlements.


wtf!! and how much architecture of the Aragonese crown does remain in Barcelona???????? :picard1:

Lol. You probably don't even know that there is a Catalan Gothic style, not only spread all over the Iberian part of the Crown, but also on the Italian part. Really, forget it, stick to talking about your beloved Catalan Muslims and other passions of yours.

[Cristiano viejo]

Comment on a legend with no foundation? If I had to comment every stupid thing you say...

Barcelona, like Tarragona and many others, were founded by Romans upon (or beside) previous Iberian settlements.
A legend, yes...


Lol. You probably don't even know that there is a Catalan Gothic style, not only spread all over the Iberian part of the Crown, but also on the Italian part. Really, forget it, stick to talking about your beloved Catalan Muslims and other passions of yours.
First, your assumptions about my knowledges say very little of you.
Second, dont make me laugh... Catalan "Gothic" style what does represent, the 0,00000000001% of the Barcelonese buildings and architecture?? :picard1::picard1:

Third, now let me speak a bit about that famous Catalan "Gothic" style :rolleyes:, that btw it is as Catalan as Castellers are :rolleyes: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?142586-Castells-(Human-Towers)
You should give me the thanks to contribute in the dead Catalan section responding to my post in that thread at least :icon_lol:




¿Turista en tu tierra?, del libro Cataluña hispana (Libroslibres), del escritor catalán Javier Barraycoa

Paseamos por el barrio "gótico" de Barcelona. Entrecomillamos lo de gótico, porque ese es un nombre inventado en el siglo XX para los turistas. Tradicionalmente se llamó el barrio de la Catedral, cuando ésta aún no contaba con la fachada actual, que data de principios del siglo pasado y que muchos toman, sin saberlo, como medieval. Muy pocos catalanes conocen bien la zona, la historia de sus calles, los detalles recónditos. Hay pequeños-grandes "secretos" que esconden las piedras; y también muchas "mentiras" que se ofrecen inocentes a los incrédulos turistas. Estos efímeros trashumantes del asombro y la fotografía no pueden alcanzar a comprender que el barrio "gótico" es una invención muy moderna. A inicios del siglo XX, un grupo de catalanistas fundó la Sociedad de Atracción de Forasteros, con la intención de cautivar a turistas y captar inversiones para la ciudad. Su mayor éxito fue la organización de la exposición de 1929. Ese proyecto fue continuado por el franquismo, hasta que finalmente se logró crear un atractivo ambiente (falsamente) medieval que embriega el alma errante entre callejuelas.

La burguesía catalanista, ante el impulso que supuso la llegada de inmensas fortunas de las viejas colonias, y de la fundación de nuevas industrias que ello propició, decidió transformar una ciudad provinciana, insalubre, mal comunicada y con evidentes problemas políticos y sociales, en un modelo de ciudad cosmopolita. El catalanismo, también deseoso de rememorar el esplendor de la época de la Corona de Aragón, puso en marcha este proyecto arquitectónico en el barrio, que remitiera a tan augustas raíces medievales y uniera la ciudad moderna con sus fundamentos romanos, e incluso ibéricos. Al abrirse la Vía Augusta, permitió que algunos edificios centenarios se pudieran trasladar, piedra a piedra, al degradado barrio de la Catedral. En pocas décadas la zona fue tomando el aspecto actual. Se recurrió a la "restauración de estilo", que era una técnica copiada de Francia que había promocionado el "movimiento de restauración arquitectónica para la glorificación de la Patria". El Estado francés se dio cuenta de que la recuperación de antiguas joyas arquitectónicas exaltaba el orgullo por el pasado y legitimaba el estatalismo vigente. La arquitectura se convertía así en un poderoso instrumento de propaganda política. Por su parte, los catalanistas siempre tuvieron puestas sus miras en las novedades parisinas y aprendieron rápidamente este mecanismo de educación social. La barriada decadente de la que hablamos vio cómo mediocres luceras eran sustituidas por encantadoras copias de ventanales góticos. De la nada aparecían magníficos edificios medievales donde antes había casas obreras en mal estado. Ello no quita que los turistas fotografíen con entusiasmo todo lo que les parezca vetusto sin ser capaces de distinguir lo verdadero de lo falso. Igualmente, se emocianan al ver el bello puente neogótico que se alza sobre la calle que va de la plaza San Jaime hasta la Catedral. Sorprendente, la obra es de 1928, construida por Juan Rubio y Bellver. Pero da igual, todo paseante piensas que es una reliquia del pasado y lo fotografía como quien captura digitalmente la historia. Al visitar la famosa Casa de la Ardiaca (una verdadera joya medieval), cualquier experto puede encontrar donde un restaurador "bromista" restauró, a principios del siglo XX, un bajorrelieve medieval donde aparece el busto de un "hombre medieval" con americana y corbata. Los turistas pasan por delante y son incapaces de percibir el anacronismo.

No es de extrañar que en la Lliga Regionalista (primer gran partido catalanista, cuya época de esplendor fue durante el primer cuarto del siglo XX), estuvieran involucrados muchos arquitectos como Puig y Cadafalch o Doménech y Muntaner (el restaurador de la Casa de la Ardiaca). Incluso se puede considerar como el primer gran acto catalanista, de un catalanismo todavía sin concreción política, la masiva celebración de la restauración arquitectónica del Monasterio de Ripoll, en 1893. La arquitectura, para aquellos hombres en los que ya latía el catalanismo, no era sólo arte sino un potente mecanismo de adiestramiento popular. Sin saberlo, habían descubierto una de las dimensiones esenciales de la propaganda moderna. Miles de catalanes acudieron a Ripoll, considerada la "cuna de Cataluña", para celebrar el renacimiento de un pueblo reflejado simbólicamente en un milenario monasterio recién restaurado. La Renaixença -el renacimiento- de la "nación catalana" se estaba produciendo, y no sólo en el plano literario, sino también en el "espiritual" y "material" (la arquitectura conjuntaba estas dos dimensiones del hombre). Con motivo de este acto, por primera vez en la historia de Cataluña, se vieron ondear miles de banderas catalanas. Las autoridades eclesiásticas del Principado demostraron su capacidad de movilización y organización. Tras casi un siglo de persecuciones liberales, creían ser los fautores del renacimiento cristiano de Cataluña, gracias a la aplicación de una "pastoral catalana" que sustituía a la "castellana". El pueblo católico podía, por tanto, sentirse partícipe de la resurrección de la "madre patria". Una ilusión que, como veremos, duraría bien poco.

La arquitectura modernista era algo más que un movimiento arquitectónico o artístico. Se transformó en una forma de extender la nueva ideología de la burguesía catalana, que no era otra que el nacionalismo. Romanticismo, wagnerismo, fantasías, sublimación de las medievales, esculturas de valquirias o la recreación de una falsa naturaleza se entremezclaban y se plasmaron en piedra con la intención de embelesar al mundo y darle a conocer una "nación" que -como Ave Fénix- resurgía de sus cenizas.
Curiosamente, Gaudí nunca se considero "modernista". Para él, católico de pro, el "modernismo" se asociaba a la doctrina que había condenado San Pío X en la Encíclica Pascendi. Por eso siempre quiso desmarcarse de ese epíteto.

Por las plazas del barrio "gótico", como la del Rey o la de San Felipe Neri, un especialista, o cualquiera que se preocupe por la historia de su ciudad, puede reconocer los edificios que fueron trasladados en el siglo XX. Lo mismo ocurre con los palacios medievales que rodean el ábside de la Catedral. Hace cien años no estaban ahí. Entrando por la antigua puerta romana que da al carrer del Bisbe (Calle del Obispo) se pueden vislumbrar las piedras que colocaron los romanos hace más de 2000 años. A esta calle se accede desde la Plaza Nueva, donde se encontraba una de las cinco horcas de Barcelona en las que -obviamente- se ejecutaba a los condenados a muerte. Hace tan solo 60 años, los edificios que ocupaban esa zona desaparecieron para dejar paso a un gran "espacio turístico": la gran plaza de la Catedral. Si uno observa la zona con cuidado puede descubrir los restos de un "acueducto romano"; sin embargo, su antigüedad data de los años 50 del siglo XX, y fue construido como atracción para turistas que empezaban a frecuentar la ciudad.

I laugh a lot with the Catalan "Gothic" style :laugh:

[Comte Arnau]

First, your assumptions about my knowledges say very little of you.

I know, I still overrate you too much.


Second, dont make me laugh... Catalan "Gothic" style what does represent, the 0,00000000001% of the Barcelonese buildings and architecture??

I don't know the percentage, so I'll wait for your enlightening personal field work or that of one of your wonderful sources, such as that serious unbiased book you quote so much. :coffee:


that btw it is as Catalan as Castellers are :rolleyes: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?142586-Castells-(Human-Towers)

The funniest thing is how you mention it as if nobody here knew about that origin, lol. Or as if we considered Valencia not to be from the same cultural area.


You should give me the thanks to contribute in the dead Catalan section responding to my post in that thread at least :icon_lol:

What you call contributions are but attempts to show your deeply-rooted incurable contempt for everything Catalan, so if anything they only contribute to reaffirm your phobic complex.


I laugh a lot with the Catalan "Gothic" style :laugh:

Good for you, laughing is healthy. You should hear me laughing at your efforts to look smart. That's big lolling del bueno.


Mark was implying that Barcelona didn't look like Cairo but your insecurity caused you to over look the intention. A simple thread has turned to shit because you decided maps and encyclopedias (in other words a fact) hurt your precious feelings.

Tornem-hi doncs: Fes-te fotre, xitxarel·lo.

[Cristiano viejo]

I know, I still overrate you too much.
In this case that says a lot about me :icon_lol:



I don't know the percentage,
Of course you dont know it.. you what are you going to know... :rolleyes:
but the funny thing is precisely that, you dont know a shit but here are you saying that Barcelona is plenty of the Catalan "Gothic" style and it is very different of the rest of Spain and blablabla :picard1: PATHETIC.


so I'll wait for your enlightening personal field work or that of one of your wonderful sources, such as that serious unbiased book you quote so much. :coffee:
hahaha the better thing is not the fact that you can not argue against the book but that writer is CATALAN.


The funniest thing is how you mention it as if nobody here knew about that origin, lol.
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha go to hell with this sentence after posting this:


Thread dedicated to this unique Catalan tradition.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?142586-Castells-(Human-Towers)

nor unique nor Catalan. Manipulator and lier are words too sweet to define you.


Or as if we considered Valencia not to be from the same cultural area.
:lols: :lols: :lols: now do you invoke Valencia being part of Catalonia to try demonstrating that the Castellers is a Catalan tradition?? hahaha


What you call contributions are but attempts to show your deeply-rooted incurable contempt for everything Catalan, so if anything they only contribute to reaffirm your phobic complex.
Yes, contributions, because what I wrote is the fucking truth, unlike you :thumb001:


Good for you, laughing is healthy. You should hear me laughing at your efforts to look smart. That's big lolling del bueno.
As I say you, the truth hurts.

[Graham]

Thread needs more picture!

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[B01AB20]

the neighborhood where I'd like to live.

http://www.torrevilana.es/data1/images/gaziel25al654.jpg
http://www.poblesdecatalunya.cat/fotos/normal/026487.jpeg
http://www.qualinhabitat.com/imatges/inmuebles/torres/145/casa-pedralbes-10.jpg
http://esphoto980x880.mnstatic.com/cruz-de-pedralbes_515722.jpg



the neighborhood where better off dead than live there.

http://barrimina.cat/docs/noticies/240912/rh_foto3.jpg
http://satanismylord.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Barrio-la-Mina-1.jpg
http://www.barrimina.org/docs/noticies/2010/1802/DSC_4073.JPG
http://img02.lavanguardia.com/2013/11/15/Macrooperacion-antidroga-en-Ba_54393474659_53699622600_601_341.jpg
http://www.bifurcaciones.cl/bifurcaciones/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/bifurcaciones-fernandez-15-La-Mina1.jpg

[Graham]

haha every city has it's dumpy Estate. ;)

[Jana]

Barcelona has beautiful architecture. Although it's symetrical layout takes some of it's charm. Cultural offerings and nightlife though :D

[Comte Arnau]

but the funny thing is precisely that, you dont know a shit but here are you saying that Barcelona is plenty of the Catalan "Gothic" style and it is very different of the rest of Spain and blablabla :picard1: PATHETIC.

Do yourself a favour and don't go on playing such a fool of yourself, man. Even if it's you, it's painful to see.


nor unique nor Catalan.

Jeez, you are unique. And hopefully irrepetible.

Get informed and you'll see that there are samples of human constructions all over the world. But such complicated structures in teams competing with each other are clearly unique to Catalonia, and were born in Valls. The fact that the origin goes back to the human construction of Valencian muixeranges as part of a celebration has been known for decades. But please, keep feeling special for such a scoop.


now do you invoke Valencia being part of Catalonia to try demonstrating that the Castellers is a Catalan tradition?? hahaha

I haven't said Valencia is part of Catalonia, but of the Catalan cultural area. Learn to read or at least manipulate more subtly.


As I say you, the truth hurts.

So much that you can never use it as a tool.

[Ulla]

Cairo looks much more chaotic and less orderly in my opinion.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/View_from_Cairo_Tower_31march2007.jpg

http://www.platatours.com/public_html/images/cities/2.jpg

[Graham]

http://iangrey.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cathedral.jpg

[Graham]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/View_from_Cairo_Tower_31march2007.jpg


To be fair, when you post river pictures of cities. Could look like anywhere.

London

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/River_Thames_and_Waterloo_Bridge%2C_London-17Aug2009.jpg/800px-River_Thames_and_Waterloo_Bridge%2C_London-17Aug2009.jpg

[Ulla]

To be fair, when you post river pictures of cities. Could look like anywhere.

I was just answering to this


more chaotic and less orderly in my opinion.

[Cristiano viejo]

I haven't said Valencia is part of Catalonia, but of the Catalan cultural area. Learn to read or at least manipulate more subtly.


You are saying the same since Valencia is not part of any Catalan cultural area. Empecinado is bored to say it to you.

[B01AB20]

I worked here over one year and half as external, headquarters of Caixa Catalunya, just in front of the cathedral.

It had to be 'rescued' by the govern, with money from people's taxes of course, and nowadays their formers managers are being judged for corruption.

http://www.poblesdecatalunya.cat/fotos/normal/001246.jpeg

I was working just in the same building as the corrupted caste :cool: thilling :puke:



and other nice building in the same street, another 'caixa'.
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/36653947.jpg

[Comte Arnau]

To help resolve your ignorance.

Com arribes a anar de mal cardat, pet de cony. :ranger:

[B01AB20]

Barcelona also has a river, :), not a big one though.

Besós river.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/28/1d/0a/281d0a600881a0866d3397ac02e9a668.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Lyf5Qd8G1WI/S8ICm5REamI/AAAAAAAALN8/iq5e-Zz121I/s800/akaneroller_sant%20cugat%20bcn4.jpg

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/7119286-lg.jpg

[Lábaru]

Como buen río que desemboca en el mediterráneo lo hará lentamente y con un pedazo de delta de la hostia imagino, la península está inclinada con pendiente descendente hacia el oeste.

[B01AB20]

Como buen río que desemboca en el mediterráneo lo hará lentamente y con un pedazo de delta de la hostia imagino, la península está inclinada con pendiente descendente hacia el oeste.

mas bien no, esta es su desembocadura en el mar, es un rio pequeñajo y domesticado. Al menos ahora está limpio, antes era un cloaca a cielo abierto.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/28/1d/0a/281d0a600881a0866d3397ac02e9a668.jpg

[Lábaru]

mas bien no, esta es su desembocadura en el mar, es un rio pequeñajo y domesticado. Al menos ahora está limpio, antes era un cloaca a cielo abierto.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/28/1d/0a/281d0a600881a0866d3397ac02e9a668.jpg

Es pequeño sí, comparado por ejemplo con el Ebro que nace en mi tierra y les desemboca a los de Tarragona. Aún así ves como hace curvas, meandros, eso es porque va muy lento, la pendiente hace que vaya muy lenta el agua y se acumule mierda, si hasta está medio cerrado donde toca al Mar.

[Cristiano viejo]

Laugh while you can. And keep laughing if in two years the thread must be retitled. He who laughs last laughs best.

2020 and waiting :bored:

[Damião de Góis]

That really is a bad picture

[kundur]

Barcelona 2 - 8 Bayern München.
I saw the massacre in Champions League. Deep condolences guys.
That's when even Messi cannot save. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Mze8xD644

[mitalit]

Laugh while you can. And keep laughing if in two years the thread must be retitled. He who laughs last laughs best.

:lol00002::pound:

[Rocinante]

Barcelona es muy bonita, pero descuidada en comparación a Madrid. Madrid sigue hoy en día siendo una joya, pero la están descuidando.