Can these Cubans pass as Spanish?

[Leto]

Just saw them in a German-language video about Cuba. Can they pass in Spain?
http://firepic.org/images/2015-02/08/fetipov7pdjb.jpg (http://firepic.org/)
http://firepic.org/images/2015-02/08/uwpb8npr4vgz.jpg (http://firepic.org/)

[Tooting Carmen]

In the Canary Islands for sure. In the mainland probably, but they'd not be the most typical faces necessarily. Anyway, has Sikeliot invaded your body or something? xD

[Alchemysta]

Yes

[Leto]

In the Canary Islands for sure. In the mainland probably, but they'd not be the most typical faces necessarily. Anyway, has Sikeliot invaded your body or something? xD
Well, when I saw them, I thought they were not really "mulattoid" or something similar. People often say how white Cuba is compared to its neighbors. So I decided to ask what you guys think.

[ius semper]

NO

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

No.

[Leto]

NO
Why not? The first one is no swarthier than many Spaniards. Cuba is a Caribbean island, of course people there are usually tanned.

[ius semper]

Why not? The first one is no swarthier than many Spaniards. Cuba is a Caribbean island, of course people there are usually tanned.

The question was if they could pass as mainland spainards, and my answer is NO. Why? Because I'm Spaniard, I live in Spain and I'm sure that if you put an italian citizen next to a spaniard citizen next to a french citizen and neither of them open their mouths, you wouldn't be able to say from which country are they.

[Antimage]

they pass in canary islands, which is technically spain

[dawson]

the 2nd looks North African. The 1st I think can pass

[Empecinado]

As Canarians yes.

[Leto]

Do Canarians really stand out in the mainland? Do people say when they see a Canarian: "Oh, that guy is definitely from the Canary Islands"?:)

[Ibericus]

The second doesn't even look Canarian, but more like a quadroon, around 15-20% black admix.

[gold_fenix]

Do Canarians really stand out in the mainland? Do people say when they see a Canarian: "Oh, that guy is definitely from the Canary Islands"?:)

no, often we usually to think that person is south american, by look and accent

[Empecinado]

Do Canarians really stand out in the mainland? Do people say when they see a Canarian: "Oh, that guy is definitely from the Canary Islands"?:)

No, because there isn't a Canarian look. There are Canarians who look Iberian and others who look North African and even with black admixture (there was some black slaves) that are mistaken with Cubans or Venezuelans, not only because looks also due their accent.

Canarians can range from this:

http://ocio.laprovincia.es/img_contenido/noticias/2012/07/94076/2012_07_02_IMG_2012_07_02_203A453A46_betancort_con tratenor.jpg

To this:

http://images.coveralia.com/audio/j/Jose_Velez-De_Corazon-Trasera.jpg?461

But as a group they are this:

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt36/fjcano22/BALONCESTO/La%20Palma%20juv-cad/IMG_6897.jpg

http://www.gomeratoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/gomahara-Orotava.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JyhXIvavnRg/TTck4bc7dyI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/ir7yJfZ3_aY/s1600/sde%2B%25285%2529.JPG

http://www.tenerifecajacanarias.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Ascenso-equipo-femenino.jpg

http://www.tenerife.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/costa-adeje-gran-hotel-pasteleria-1024x866.jpg

[Leto]

Good post, Empecinado:thumb001:


http://www.tenerife.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/costa-adeje-gran-hotel-pasteleria-1024x866.jpg
The two men on the left can pass in Morocco. Probably the darkest Canarians.

[Isleño]

Yes, I have to agree with Empecinado. Canarians can look exactly like peninsulares or can look like a little bit exotic type peninsulares or can look a bit too exotic for the Iberian peninsula. So I think yes, they can pass as Canarians of the more exotic type. There is no one look, there is a range of looks from light to dark. But with that said, there's a range of looks in the Iberian peninsula too.

[Empecinado]

Good post, Empecinado:thumb001:

The two men on the left can pass in Morocco. Probably the darkest Canarians.

Rather the two men in the middle, the one of the left is darker than them but has features atypical in Morocco.

[Ibericus]

Well, when I saw them, I thought they were not really "mulattoid" or something similar. People often say how white Cuba is compared to its neighbors. So I decided to ask what you guys think.
Cuba is not that "white". take a look this study, the average cuban is about 70% european and 20% black :

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/746/aOuTMl.png

[Isleño]

Cuba is not that "white". take a look this study, the average cuban is about 70% european :

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/746/aOuTMl.pngBut those are averages. Take a look at individual DNA tests: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?112969-Cuban-23andme-Results&highlight=cuban+23andme

[Leto]

Cuba is not that "white". take a look this study, the average cuban is about 70% european and 20% black :
Thanks.
In the US they are more European. 80+ percent identify as "white".

[Isleño]

Thanks.
In the US they are more European. 80+ percent identify as "white".Yes, there are more white Cubans in the US. But Cuba still has 37% of their country as white Cubans. The rest are mulatos and blacks. But one year before Castro in 1958, Cuba was 74% white, so we can see many white Cubans left the island.

[Kabul]

100% yes.

[Empecinado]

Thanks.
In the US they are more European. 80+ percent identify as "white".

Most of the Cubans in the US and Spain are white, but in Cuba they are a minority (I doubt more than 40%). For example, the actress Ana de Armas (:love-smiley-036:) born in Cuba but living in Spain:

http://imagenesfotos.com/wp-content/2009/05/ana_de_armas3.jpg

[Isleño]

Most of the Cubans in the US and Spain are white, but in Cuba they are a minority (I doubt more than 40%). For example, the actress Ana de Armas (:love-smiley-036:) born in Cuba but living in Spain:

http://imagenesfotos.com/wp-content/2009/05/ana_de_armas3.jpg
This is a white Cuban that could pass in Spain I believe. There are Canarians like him too.

http://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2013/09/15/b0ae396b-c6f9-4e45-9b38-38e2375117e7/crop/425x319+58+35/resize/770x578/11ff8d1f1a24b45f97dfb13711971644/Raul%20de%20Molina%20Full%20Body.jpg

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

They can pass as Canar-ians, of the more exotic types.

[Empecinado]

This is a white Cuban that could pass in Spain I believe. There are Canarians like him too.

http://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2013/09/15/b0ae396b-c6f9-4e45-9b38-38e2375117e7/crop/425x319+58+35/resize/770x578/11ff8d1f1a24b45f97dfb13711971644/Raul%20de%20Molina%20Full%20Body.jpg

Most, I'd say around 80%, pass in Spain. The others have this kind of look, that even though is pred Euro and in Cuba would be considered white, here would make them to look foreigner:

http://www.formulatv.com/images/fgaleria/24600/24667_alicia-borrachero-es-silvia-bertomeu.jpg

[Baldur]

I think only the first guy could.

[Isleño]

Most, I'd say around 80%, pass in Spain. The others have this kind of look, that even though is pred Euro and in Cuba would be considered white, here would make them to look foreigner:

http://www.formulatv.com/images/fgaleria/24600/24667_alicia-borrachero-es-silvia-bertomeu.jpgThis one looks like there is slight black admixture in the face. Like slight mulattoed a bit, but mostly Euro. But you are right, most of them like 80% look like they can pass in Spain.

[Isleño]

They can pass as Canar-ians, of the more exotic types.
Yes, of the more exotic types, which I would say is maybe 20% of the Canarian population. The first guy might have more ease passing with the majority.