Classify Ánde Somby, Sámi jurist and law professors

[Pallantides]

Ánde Somby, born in Polmak, Norway, is a well known traditional Sami joik artist and a Research Scholar in the Faculty of Law at the University of Tromsø, specializing in Indigonious Rights Law. Somby is only one of two Sami law professors.
http://www.jus.uit.no/ansatte/somby/jpg/ande04.jpg
http://www.jus.uit.no/ansatte/somby/jpg/ande36.jpg
http://www.jus.uit.no/ansatte/somby/jpg/ande37.jpg
http://www.jus.uit.no/ansatte/somby/jpg/ande12.jpg
http://www.jus.uit.no/ansatte/somby/jpg/ande14.jpg
http://www.jus.uit.no/ansatte/somby/jpg/ande31.jpg
http://www.jus.uit.no/ansatte/somby/jpg/vill2.jpg
http://www.jus.uit.no/ansatte/somby/jpg/vill3b.jpg
http://www.norway.org/NR/rdonlyres/7090913EBAC04AE6B8D603DD49D2FBD8/53141/andesomby400.gif

[Agrippa]

Craniofacially he looks like a Dalofaelid with Nordid and Lappid influences to me. The Lappid part is more evident in younger years, in later he could pass - craniofacially, for a Dalofaelid with Nordid influences in my opinion.

Profile and height would be interesting though.

[Jarl]

Craniofacially he looks like a Dalofaelid with Nordid and Lappid influences to me. The Lappid part is more evident in younger years, in later he could pass - craniofacially, for a Dalofaelid with Nordid influences in my opinion.

Profile and height would be interesting though.

Dalo-Nordid? That's perhaps why I thought he looks German ;)

[Pallantides]

He seem quite short and stocky:
http://vajas.info/jpg/160605c01.jpg

[Agrippa]

True, his body type is typically Lappid, that really makes him much more Lappid looking. Its interesting that quite of a lot of those mixed Samis have facial features which are more Nordeuropid, but their body is still rather Lappid, sometimes even Mongoloid rather, which is even more striking if a large head sits on such a body...

That really makes him Dalofaelid-Lappid looking with only minor Nordid rather.

[Allenson]

Yeah, Cro-Mag/Faelid with some Lappish hints. He reminds me of Gerard Depardieu a bit. Not a spitting image, obviously but there are some similarities.

[Pallantides]

He reminds me of Gerard Depardieu a bit. Not a spitting image, obviously but there are some similarities.

Especially in this picture:
http://www.freehawaiistickers.com/photos/The%20Saami%20People%20Of%20The%20Artic%20Circle.j pg

[Jarl]

He seem quite short and stocky:


Just as one robust tundra hunter ought to be ;)

[Pallantides]

His brother looks more Lappish:
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2002/11/26/sametinget_sak.jpg
kind of hard imagining they are full-blooded siblings, Niilas Somby blew off his arm and left eye while trying to do some terrorist action against the Norwegian state back in the 80's.

[SuuT]

Niilas Somby blew off his arm and left eye while trying to do some terrorist action against the Norwegian state back in the 80's.

See what happens when you try to stick it to the Man?



:heh:

[Allenson]

The brother almost looks like an Injun. No, really!

Or, a metis, anyway....

[Pallantides]

See what happens when you try to stick it to the Man?



:heh:


http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2002/11/26/354782.html


I support anyone in their struggle sticking it to "THE MAN"

[SuuT]

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2002/11/26/354782.html


I support anyone in their struggle sticking it to "THE MAN"

lol Ahhhh to be young. :) You weren't even born yet!

"Somby deltok i to sultestreiker i Oslo. Men han sto også bak sprengningsforsøk av brua over Tverrelv i Alta den 20. mars 1982. Aksjonen ble utløst da Høyesterett ga grønt lys til vannkraftutbygging."


Grrrrr... that evil hydropower.:D lol BLOW IT UP!

[Pallantides]

http://www.groven.no/rolf/images/previews/preview17.jpg
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/47/475/475795/helge6.jpg
http://gfx.nrk.no/eszvtIUnQNWJoaFlhzt9sAGjoeTH7GMM2uBQe71Fcpmg.jpg
http://www.nrk.no/contentfile/file/1.6243126!f169CropList/img462x262.jpg

[Agrippa]

Who's the hyperprogressive Nordoid but leftist-good doer in their middle?

[Pallantides]

Who's the hyperprogressive Nordoid but leftist-good doer in their middle?

Helge Ingstad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helge_Ingstad
http://www.snl.no/system/images/i/ingstad_helge3.jpg
http://www.snl.no/system/images/i/ingstadhelge2.jpg

With his wife Anne Stine Ingstad
http://img.nrk.no/img/433989.jpeg

[SuuT]

Who's the hyperprogressive Nordoid but leftist-good doer in their middle?

Ingstad was a great and intrepid man. However, his interests in the Cultural Anthropology of 'primitive' peoples (I'm certain Pallantide's link will reference his interest in Inuit, Aztecs, etc.) seemed to over-ride his own sense of cultural and ethnic belonging, to the ultimate detriment of both the Norseman as well as the Sámi. As is usually the case with emotionally driven do-gooding.

[Pallantides]

Ingstad was a great and intrepid man. However, his interests in the Cultural Anthropology of 'primitive' peoples (I'm certain Pallantide's link will reference his interest in Inuit, Aztecs, etc.) seemed to over-ride his own sense of cultural and ethnic belonging, to the ultimate detriment of both the Norseman as well as the Sámi. As is usually the case with emotionally driven do-gooding.

Well he did marry a Norwegian woman and not one of those "primitive" peoples he admired.:)

[Agrippa]

Well, many do much more harm with their actions than their relationships.

I would very much prefer the degenerate chancellor Merkel having a Negrid partner than having anything to say in politics, same goes for many people, because with their political, economic and other actions, they don't just change or ruin their own bloodline and family culture, but the whole population, insofar...

And of course, if excluding people which are totally nuts, even Leftists and Liberals prefer to marry a person which they like rather than a foreign partner regardless of what, so this shows hardly a great ethnic pride and identity neither...

He did a lot for this own people's history and identity too it seems, at least from a scientific standpoint, if looking at his various books about Norse settlements...

[Pallantides]

Helge Ingstad haven't done any harm or made an effort to destroy Norwegian culture, he is in fact a great contributor and have enriched it greatly with his exploration, he is a National Hero in Norway. :)


Many of Norway's famous explorers like Amundsen and Nansen had great respect for peoples like the Sámi.

[SuuT]

[...]
He did a lot for this own people's history and identity too it seems, at least from a scientific standpoint, if looking at his various books about Norse settlements...

His contributions to, and concentrations on posterity are solid as can be. His adverse regard of the Norwegian State in favour of Sámi land 'rights' was directly antithetical to traditional Norse Anschauung; and the broader, traditional, Nordic Weltanschauung. Pallantides is right, though, he is a national hero; but, just 30-40 years prior to his 'activism', he would have been considered a traitor for such activities. Three cheers for modernity.

[Pallantides]

Nothing wrong with correcting and making up for old misdeeds. :thumb001:

[Agrippa]

I'd say it is not wrong to care for other people, even on the contrary, its just wrong if your own people are harmed and their interests threatened, especially if thats the case in a disproportionate way in comparison to the achievements for the other's, then its just stupidity.

And in such cases it's never just about the small people, but a general attitude of the whole group and the Liberal-Cultural Marxist disease obviously infected Norway too and looking at things for the longer term outcome...

[Pallantides]

What have been benefictial to the Sami have not harmed Norwegians a whole lot, but Norwegian policies of the past have harmed the Sami people and their interests.



When Niilas wanted to blow up that bridge, he made sure no one was on it when it happened because he didn't want to harm any innocents.



'Non-Violence' is one of the cores of Sami life philosophy, I guess that is one of the reason why they have been so easy to push around.

[Äike]

How can such a small ethnic group, like the Sami, harm Norwegians? I don't see the Sami people as a threat to the Norwegians.

[Truth Seeker]

And in such cases it's never just about the small people, but a general attitude of the whole group and the Liberal-Cultural Marxist disease obviously infected Norway too and looking at things for the longer term outcome...

I talked with random scandinavians on the internet. They were norwegians and swedes. They thought all americans were racists and they all had liberal ideologies. I think it was a swede that told me it was racist for americans to not make college free because it holding the blacks behind. I was on a chat website and they were one-on-one chats.

[Agrippa]

How can such a small ethnic group, like the Sami, harm Norwegians? I don't see the Sami people as a threat to the Norwegians.

Only by too much genetic influence I guess...

Well, what I meant is a shift in the dominant culture of a society. So it might be small people and you do something good for them, ok, but if you imply they have rights which make them privileged even and that your own people have to care for those new rights, being ashamed of the past etc., this is just the Cultural-Marxist dogma of guilt and suppression, with the conclusion that the European culture and race must be destroyed or at least "deconstructed".

It's like saying, "what harm does it, if woman can do this or that..."

In theory no harm at all, as long as everything happens in a certain frame and with a certain moral-ideological perspective. But if the Cultural Marxist agenda wins with such "creative precedents", it just open the doors for more to come, f.e. in the case of Radical Feminism, Mass immigration, anti-discrimination laws, anti-male laws, laws against anti-Semitism, against this or that, until in the end you live in a "politically correct" totalitarian state, being exploited by Liberalcapitalists are not allowed to criticise anything in that system, because its the best system in the world and to criticise it means to criticise people which are protected by those "creative laws" and of course the common "guilt complex" of "the white man"...

[Agrippa]

I talked with random scandinavians on the internet. They were norwegians and swedes. They thought all americans were racists and they all had liberal ideologies. I think it was a swede that told me it was racist for americans to not make college free because it holding the blacks behind. I was on a chat website and they were one-on-one chats.

I too think its wrong to make the universities not free, but I consider it being asocial, not racist.

Because in my opinion, there wouldn't be so much more great "black academics" if the universities would be free and most of those to come would be mixed race rather.

Liberal is in this context a problematic word, because it means something completely different in the USA and Europe. Scandinavians are, as a rule, Cultural Marxists rather than Liberals/Libertarians, though even that changed to the worse in social and economic policies, so they combine, like most Neoliberal regimes, the worst of both worlds: Economic Liberalism in which in the end all profits are private and all costs "Socialised" (-> "bailouts" f.e.) with the mind control and political moral of the Cultural Marxists - just without their social ideals.

The worst system one can think about once it being fully realised.

And people like Ingstad seem to have done more for this nightmare becoming reality than to prevent it.

[Pallantides]

I talked with random scandinavians on the internet. They were norwegians and swedes. They thought all americans were racists and they all had liberal ideologies. I think it was a swede that told me it was racist for americans to not make college free because it holding the blacks behind. I was on a chat website and they were one-on-one chats.



Many Norwegians I know are fairly racist and Nationalistic. But many view being labeled as a Nationalist as something bad, even though most Norwegians have strong Nationalistic tendencies.

A reply I often get when I tell someone they are Nationalists is "I'm not a Nazi!":icon_ask:

[Truth Seeker]

I too think its wrong to make the universities not free, but I consider it being asocial, not racist.

Because in my opinion, there wouldn't be so much more great "black academics" if the universities would be free and most of those to come would be mixed race rather.

Liberal is in this context a problematic word, because it means something completely different in the USA and Europe. Scandinavians are, as a rule, Cultural Marxists rather than Liberals/Libertarians, though even that changed to the worse in social and economic policies, so they combine, like most Neoliberal regimes, the worst of both worlds: Economic Liberalism in which in the end all profits are private and all costs "Socialised" (-> "bailouts" f.e.) with the mind control and political moral of the Cultural Marxists - just without their social ideals.

The worst system one can think about once it being fully realised.

And people like Ingstad seem to have done more for this nightmare becoming reality than to prevent it.

Socialism is the lower stage of communism and leads to it.


Many Norwegians I know are fairly racist and Nationalistic. But many view being labeled as a Nationalist as something bad, even though most Norwegians have strong Nationalistic tendencies.

A reply I often get when I tell someone they are Nationalists is "I'm not a Nazi!":icon_ask:

Well it werent many just a few. Just the impression I got from the few. There were young too.

[Agrippa]

Socialism is the lower stage of communism and leads to it.

Depends like Liberal on how you define Socialism. In general, Socialist concepts are highly valuable, it depends on the rest of the policy and state how it works out.

What have now is everything else but Socialism of course, its just Cultural Marxism used as an ideological weapon called "political correctness" for controlling the people in a Liberalcapitalist system.

[Smeagol]

Nordo-Faelid with Lappid influence.