U5a1d1 Haplogroup?

[Cody Gearhart]

Hey i went back and checked my genographic 2.0 just a bit ago and they updated my mtdna haplogroup from U5a1d to U5a1d1. What ethnicity's are found with this specific haplogroup? Thank you very much for your time!

[Cody Gearhart]

Bump.

[Cody Gearhart]

Anyone?

[igo112]

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[Linebacker]

I know for a fact U5b1 is a haplogroup from Paleolithic and mesolithic hunter gatherers.Im not sure if U5а1 is related or not.It should be.

Im on mobile now when I get home I'll do some digging

[Cody Gearhart]

Hmm makes sense. Is it a Scandinavian or Germanic Mtdna haplogroup?

[Linebacker]

U5a1d arose around 19000 years ago and has polymorphisms in 3027 ( + U5a1 polymorphisms).
U5a1d1 has polymorphisms in 5263 13002 (to adenosine)( + U5a1d polymorphisms).

This is what I found on your haplogroup.It appears to be a Late Upper Paleolithic.

Its Hunter Gatherer for sure but I dont know if its Germanic/Scando or not.It doesn't really say.

[Cody Gearhart]

This is what I found on your haplogroup.It appears to be a Late Upper Paleolithic.

Its Hunter Gatherer for sure but I dont know if its Germanic/Scando or not.It doesn't really say.

Is it rare?

[Black Wolf]

I know for a fact U5b1 is a haplogroup from Paleolithic and mesolithic hunter gatherers.Im not sure if U5а1 is related or not.It should be.

Im on mobile now when I get home I'll do some digging

All of U5 including all of the U5a and U5b subclades is of Upper Palolithic and Mesolithic hunter-gatherer origin when seen in Europeans.

[Cody Gearhart]

What does this mean? U5a1d1 has polymorphisms in 5263 13002 (to adenosine)( + U5a1d polymorphisms).?

[Velda]

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U5_mtDNA.shtml
Conversely, only U5a lineages have been found so far in Mesolithic Russia (U5a1) and Sweden (U5a1 and U5a2), which points at an eastern origin of this subclade. Mesolithic samples from Poland, Germany and Italy yielded both U5a and U5b subclades. German samples included U5a2a, U5a2c3, U5b2 and U5b2a2.

[Velda]

U5a1d1: found in Ukraine

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U5_mtDNA.shtml

[Linebacker]

All of U5 including all of the U5a and U5b subclades is of Upper Palolithic and Mesolithic hunter-gatherer origin when seen in Europeans.

Yes U5 is the official Proto-European Hunter Gatherer group.There are other haplogroups that are related to European Hunter Gatherers as well but U5 is just the absolute matrix.

[Black Wolf]

Yes U5 is the official Proto-European Hunter Gatherer group.There are other haplogroups that are related to European Hunter Gatherers as well but U5 is just the absolute matrix.

Yes there has been one sample of H (H2a2) from Mesolithic Karelia and there may be a few from Iberia as well but more extensive testing is needed of those ancient Iberian remains first to fully confirm them.

[Cody Gearhart]

So this haplogroup is more of a eastern european haplogroup? Seems why i can pass in poland rather easily. i did want to know what this meant yesterday. U5a1d1 has polymorphisms in 5263 13002 (to adenosine)( + U5a1d polymorphisms).?

[Velda]

So this haplogroup is more of a eastern european haplogroup? Seems why i can pass in poland rather easily. i did want to know what this meant yesterday. U5a1d1 has polymorphisms in 5263 13002 (to adenosine)( + U5a1d polymorphisms).?

"Polymorphism" comes from ancient Greek "poly"=many and "morphein"=changing.
It means, that 5263 13002 has changed to adenosine. I don't know, what the effect of it is, but it's called "mutation". That is why in the beginning a few 1000 years ago there were e.g, persons with R1a - haplogropus. There are even today persons with exactly that haplogroup, others have gone through the process of evolution via mutation, so that by the years, there are persons, who have R1a1a1b1a1.

You have a quite "new" sort of mtDNA, which means, your DNA found some 100 years in the future by archeologists would lead a scientist to the assumtion: You could not have been lived 100 years bevore 2015, as there was no such variation of the U5a1 - subclade before.

My mtDNA in comparison could have been existed that way even longer ago.
http://dnasurnames.info/index.htm

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Pretty sure they just found this in samara with the r1b.

[Anglojew]

All of U5 including all of the U5a and U5b subclades is of Upper Palolithic and Mesolithic hunter-gatherer origin when seen in Europeans.

Yes.

[Cody Gearhart]

Ok i see now thank you for clearing this up for me. Now my next question is: Is this haplogroup Eastern european,Slavic ( I know same thing but whatever),Germanic,Celtic,Scandinavian?