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RMuller
02-16-2015, 08:52 PM
A European noblewoman who can trace her ancestry directly back to Moctezuma, Rosario Nadal y Fuster-Puigdorfila. She is married to the Prince Kyril of Bulgaria (son of former King Simeon of Bulgaria). She is Spanish from Mallorca (merchant and low nobility ancestors).

http://www.hola.com/casasreales/2007/08/20/kyril-vacaciones/imgs/kyrilbulgaria-hijos1a.jpg

http://www.almanachdegotha.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/kyrilofbulgaria.jpg

http://www.papermag.com/blogs/images/2006/07/kyril&rosario.gif

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=92359&d=1108070996

http://www.royalglitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/rosariobulgaria-van-Royaldish.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/2ikr3vd.jpg

http://www.hola.com/imagenes/biografias//rosario-nadal/84656-rosario-1.jpg

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RMuller
02-19-2015, 11:16 PM
Maybe Cristiano Viejo or someone can classify her?

Gauthier
02-20-2015, 01:05 AM
I don't see any admixture. Her Aztec dna is probably no more than 5%.

StonyArabia
02-20-2015, 01:14 AM
Now the Bulgarian royalty has Amerindian blood.

Cristiano viejo
02-20-2015, 01:21 AM
Maybe Cristiano Viejo or someone can classify her?

Inferior being.

RMuller
02-20-2015, 04:06 AM
Inferior being.


How is that ? She is of Spanish nobility and married Bulgarian nobility.

Does she look Nordic too you?

RMuller
02-20-2015, 04:09 AM
I don't see any admixture. Her Aztec dna is probably no more than 5%.

It's probably less than 1% Aztec.

Wadaad
02-20-2015, 04:12 AM
How is that ? She is of Spanish nobility and married Bulgarian nobility.

Does she look Nordic too you?

To call Moctezuma 'royalty' only works in the most patronizing, PC way... he was a vanquished aboriginal. So if some South African White guy has 'shaka zulu' admixture he will consider himself royalty aswell? Please...its only ineresting as an anecdote, no pedigree of worth comes from Aztec (or any new world mix). It was mixture that came from subjugation, rape and enslavement.

RMuller
02-20-2015, 04:34 AM
To call Moctezuma 'royalty' only works in the most patronizing, PC way... he was a vanquished aboriginal. So if some South African White guy has 'shaka zulu' admixture he will consider himself royalty aswell? Please...its only ineresting as an anecdote, no pedigree of worth comes from Aztec (or any new world mix). It was mixture that came from subjugation, rape and enslavement.

For your information The Spanish king created the "House of Montezuma" in the 1600's to form part of the Spanish Nobility class. Montezuma's descendants are part of the Spanish elite and Nobility class. And the Spaniards would never have accepted niggers as part of the Spanish nobility class.

Wadaad
02-20-2015, 04:43 AM
For your information The Spanish king created the "House of Montezuma" in the 1600's to form part of the Spanish Nobility class. Montezuma's descendants are part of the Spanish elite and Nobility class. And the Spaniards would never have accepted niggers as part of the Spanish nobility class.

Who gives a fuck about who the Spanish accepts or not?

Oh yeah, a lowly Aztec. "They allowed us a nobility pedigree". The Spanish king created the 'house of Montezuma' the same way American kennel club creates a new dog breed, lol. You are proud of this? I swear to god you are a bastard.

This is what the elite wants for humanity...a bunch of New world style domesticated mongrels proud of such a history. Look at how Christian Viejo talks down to you...he has every right to do that, because he is more noble than you (according to your own culture and guidelines.)

You can call me nigger or talk about Spanish treatment of niggers, since Spanish did not subjugate or deal with my people, your insults are irrelevant while mine hit close to home, mestizo boy.

Darth Revan
02-20-2015, 04:47 AM
Reminds of Pushkin's descendants. No trace of the foreign admixture in their faces. Lifeforms always absorb new material.
Pretty woman.

And Wadaad has a point as well.

RMuller
02-20-2015, 05:19 AM
Who gives a fuck about who the Spanish accepts or not?

Obviously you do. If you didn't you wouldn't have responded in such envious way.




Oh yeah, a lowly Aztec. "They allowed us a nobility pedigree". The Spanish king created the 'house of Montezuma' the same way American kennel club creates a new dog breed,


The Aztec nobility has 2 nobility families in Spain. Both are Descendants of Montezuma. You seem very jealous


you are a bastard.]

A somali monkey on a Europe Forum. Im proud of my Spanish-Basque-Chichimeca-Otomi etc ancestors. Proud Catholic. Proud of my Basque surname.

Antimage
02-20-2015, 05:24 AM
*grabs popcorn*

Cristiano viejo
02-20-2015, 12:26 PM
How is that ? She is of Spanish nobility and married Bulgarian nobility.
What means nothing. I am not sure but I think thay are ruined, they are asking a pension to Spanish government since several decades ago, since the beggining of the XIX century.
Fortunately all of them are well located.


Does she look Nordic too you?
Nordic phenotypes mean nothing. And before you say "hey, you post a lot of blonde Spaniards" I will tell you that I just do it because according some users there are not blonde Spaniards, not because their supossed Nordic phenotypes (many of whom not even are true Nordics).

SupaThug
02-20-2015, 12:33 PM
Very interesting!

SupaThug
02-20-2015, 12:34 PM
Now the Bulgarian royalty has Amerindian blood.

The royalty of Liechtenstein has Sub-Saharan african blood :)

StonyArabia
02-20-2015, 12:37 PM
The royalty of Liechtenstein has Sub-Saharan african blood :)

I know so much for purity lol.

Armand_Duval
02-20-2015, 12:39 PM
For your information The Spanish king created the "House of Montezuma" in the 1600's to form part of the Spanish Nobility class. Montezuma's descendants are part of the Spanish elite and Nobility class. And the Spaniards would never have accepted niggers as part of the Spanish nobility class.

He's trolling.

SupaThug
02-20-2015, 12:39 PM
I know so much for purity lol.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LMfYsqYUdxY/UCaj_85tH2I/AAAAAAAAEU4/sa2MkgV1wkE/s1600/black_princess_angela.jpg

Kid is the future monarch of Liechtenstein.His mother is from Panama.

Cristiano viejo
02-20-2015, 01:33 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LMfYsqYUdxY/UCaj_85tH2I/AAAAAAAAEU4/sa2MkgV1wkE/s1600/black_princess_angela.jpg

Kid is the future monarch of Liechtenstein.His mother is from Panama.

lol
actually every Royal House has non-Euro blood. That of England has Hindu blood too.

SupaThug
02-20-2015, 01:37 PM
lol
actually every Royal House has non-Euro blood. That of England has Hindu blood too.

I know about the hindu blood in the british royal family,but I think that the one from Liechtenstain is the only one who has SSA blood,that's why I posted them,because they are different.

Cristiano viejo
02-20-2015, 02:08 PM
I know about the hindu blood in the british royal family,but I think that the one from Liechtenstain is the only one who has SSA blood,that's why I posted them,because they are different.
well yes, but having Hindu blood is also veeery different I think.

dude
02-20-2015, 02:09 PM
To call Moctezuma 'royalty' only works in the most patronizing, PC way... he was a vanquished aboriginal. So if some South African White guy has 'shaka zulu' admixture he will consider himself royalty aswell? Please...its only ineresting as an anecdote, no pedigree of worth comes from Aztec (or any new world mix).
True. European royalty is very exclusive and a trademark of the new world was to abolish royalty. But I don't agree with the last part abut rape and enslavement. It mainly came by Spanish being horny and according to the stories, the Spanish had Amerindian "royalty" that was just local to the tribes and mainly to appease the Amerindians, however, it was irrelevant in Europe. It was common for conquistadores to have a wife in Spain and another "royalty" wife in the new world.

Carignan
02-20-2015, 02:32 PM
Kid is the future monarch of Liechtenstein.His mother is from Panama.

He is not the Heir and not the son of the heir. His father should be ashamed for betraying his country and family

SupaThug
02-20-2015, 02:36 PM
He is not the Heir and not the son of the heir. His father should be ashamed for betraying his country and family

I tought he was the heir...anyway.I don't think that this father betrayed his country,nobility is not about race or ethnicity.

Empecinado
02-20-2015, 02:37 PM
She only has an Amerindian ancestor and traced back to 500 years ago, so the admixture is negligible and of course doesn't shows in phenotype.

RMuller
02-20-2015, 07:16 PM
She only has an Amerindian ancestor and traced back to 500 years ago, so the admixture is negligible and of course doesn't shows in phenotype.

True. But what is her Phenotype? Nobody has not answered my question.

Cristiano viejo
02-20-2015, 09:48 PM
True. But what is her Phenotype? Nobody has not answered my question.
Dudo que el leif motiv de este thread sea saber qué fenotipo se gastan esos "nobles" sino trolear un poco porque andas picado conmigo en el otro thread, el del mexicano rubio.

Vasconcelos
02-20-2015, 10:00 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LMfYsqYUdxY/UCaj_85tH2I/AAAAAAAAEU4/sa2MkgV1wkE/s1600/black_princess_angela.jpg

Kid is the future monarch of Liechtenstein.His mother is from Panama.
I did not know that. Oh, well.. :\

SupaThug
02-20-2015, 10:02 PM
I did not know that. Oh, well.. :\

Carigan said he is not the heir,but anyway,it still an example of an european royal family that has SSA blood.This boy will probably marry a white woman and his mom's african blood will be diluted in some generations.