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Sol Invictus
05-27-2010, 03:38 PM
By David Gardner
Last updated at 10:08 AM on 26th May 2010

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1281480/CIA-plot-air-fake-Saddam-Hussein-gay-sex-tape-prior-2003-Iraq-invasion.html#ixzz0ryg3IqTX


A campaign to shame Saddam Hussein was devised by American spies during the planning for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, it was revealed last night.

The CIA secretly plotted to flood Iraq with a fake video making it look like Saddam was having sex with a teenage boy.

According to the Washington Post, the U.S. intelligence agency also targetted Osama bin Laden for the bogus propaganda, making a film purporting to show the al Qaeda leader sitting around a campfire with his cronies, swigging alcohol and discussing their conquests of young boys.

Squabbling over the projects, as well as budget cuts, meant the videos never saw the light of day.

But the revelations will come as a major embarrassment to the CIA at a time when President Obama has demanded a clean-up after banning harsh interrogation methods used during the war on terror under George Bush.

Former intelligence officials claimed the video showing Hussein having sex with a boy would have been staged using actors.

‘It would look like it was taken by a hidden camera,’ said one ex-CIA agent. ‘Very grainy, like it was a secret videotaping of a sex session.'

Other dirty tricks ideas discussed included a plan to interrupt Iraqi television with a made-up news bulletin showing a Saddam look-alike announcing his resignation.

The fake dictator would say he was handing the reigns of the country over to his hated son Uday.

‘I’m sure you will throw your support behind His Excellency Uday,’ the imposter was supposed to tell the Iraqi people.

The CIA also wanted to hack into Iraq’s TV networks and insert misleading messages into the broadcasts.

Eventually ‘things ground to a halt’, the former agent told the Post’s Spy Talk blog.

James Pavitt, then head of the agency’s Operations Division, and his deputy, Hugh Turner, were said to be opposed to the covert plans.

Saddam was eventually captured in late 2003 and hanged in December 2006. His sons, Uday and Qusay, were killed in a shoot-out with allied troops in July 2003.

Former intelligence officials dismissed the dirty tricks ideas as ‘ridiculous’.

‘They came from people whose careers were spent in Latin America or East Asia and didn’t understand the cultural nuances of the region,’ said an ex-agent.

Another CIA official, who has extensive experience in the region, said: 'Saddam playing with boys would have no resonance in the Middle East - nobody cares.

‘Trying to mount such a campaign would show a total misunderstanding of the target. We always mistake our own taboos as universal when, in fact, they are just our taboos.’

A U.S. official said last night: ‘We can’t confirm those accounts, but if these ideas were put forward at any time they clearly didn’t go very far.’

The most effective ‘information warfare’ project during the invasion was said to be emails and faxes sent to Iraqi unit commanders as the fighting began urging them to give up and go home because they were were doomed to defeat.

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mustangeroo
05-27-2010, 03:54 PM
I would be amazed if the CIA ever seriously considered following through with any these plans. I wonder who "revealed" this to the daily mail?

Sol Invictus
05-27-2010, 04:12 PM
I would be amazed if the CIA ever seriously considered following through with any these plans. I wonder who "revealed" this to the daily mail?

Gulf of Tonkin Incident

Operation Northwoods

Sinking of the U.S.S Liberty

Google it.

mustangeroo
05-27-2010, 04:38 PM
Yeah. None of those operations involved sodomy. Sounds to me like David Gardner interviewed a pubescent CIA agent at the local school yard.

If this is legit, I think the plans were canx'd because they were horrible infantile ideas. I'm not in the CIA and I don't know what kind of guys work there. But what self respecting guy would put his name behind an idea like this? "Hey, boss, lets make a fake video of Sadaam screwing a little boy. I think that will inspire the Iraqi people to revolt, I'm sure of it." Really?

Sol Invictus
05-27-2010, 04:46 PM
"Hey, boss, lets make a fake video of Sadaam screwing a little boy. I think that will inspire the Iraqi people to revolt, I'm sure of it." Really?

It sure wouldn't help his cause. Imagine if the situation was reversed and Iraq constructed a video about Obama doing the same thing with a teen boy. I don't think the boys in the deep south would like that too much, especially along the Bible Belt.

mustangeroo
05-27-2010, 05:03 PM
It sure wouldn't help his cause. Imagine if the situation was reversed and Iraq constructed a video about Obama doing the same thing with a teen boy. I don't think the boys in the deep south would like that too much, especially along the Bible Belt.

I get what you are saying but I think, even if the video looked legit, Obama's supporters would convince themselves that it is fake. Look at the whole "birther" movement. Even the article says that analyst believe such videos would not sway the Iraqis. Even if Iraqis found the video to be offensive to their sensibilities, what could they do about it. Sadaam was not a popular leader who relied on public opinion as Obama does.

This article is more about making the US/CIA look bad. If the reporter had cited actual documents or memos than I would take it more seriously. Instead he cites "Former Intelligence Officials." I'll dig up the Washington Post article that this article is based on to see if there is any real sources.

mustangeroo
05-27-2010, 05:10 PM
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/05/cia_group_had_wacky_ideas_to_d.html

No hard sources. I think some one is trying to paint the CIA in a bad light. Ask yourself, why write an article about embarrasing operations that never happened?

anonymaus
05-27-2010, 05:38 PM
This isn't the first time the contents of CIA brainstorming sessions have been discussed with the press.

Smaland
05-27-2010, 07:07 PM
The funniest CIA plot I've heard of was its scheme to embarrass Castro by having an agent put thallium salts into his shoes on the sly. This substance is a depilatory, and so it would have made his eyebrows and beard fall out. :D

SwordoftheVistula
05-28-2010, 04:54 AM
‘They came from people whose careers were spent in Latin America or East Asia and didn’t understand the cultural nuances of the region,’ said an ex-agent.

Another CIA official, who has extensive experience in the region, said: 'Saddam playing with boys would have no resonance in the Middle East - nobody cares.

‘Trying to mount such a campaign would show a total misunderstanding of the target. We always mistake our own taboos as universal when, in fact, they are just our taboos.’

So gay sex with teenage boys is normal in muslim countries, like we always suspected


Imagine if the situation was reversed and Iraq constructed a video about Obama doing the same thing with a teen boy. I don't think the boys in the deep south would like that too much, especially along the Bible Belt.

They didn't vote for him anyways. It might hurt him with Hispanic voters though