Worst Kind of Nationalist?

[Musso]

What is the worst kind of nationalist to you? Worst in terms of being most annoying and you wouldn't want living in your community.

RUSSIAN NATIONALIST

Putin is his Hero
Fiercely anti-NATO and anti-US
Russians are the true Slavs


ARMENIAN NATIONALIST

FIERCELY ANTI-TURKEY AND ANTI-AZERBAIJAN for historical reasons
ADMIRES Russia, Greece, and Cyprus as brother nations
VERY PROUD OF BEING FIRST CHRISTIAN NATION
BOASTS OF ANCIENT CULTURE AND HISTORY


TURK NATIONALIST

Ataturk is a hero if not a god to him
Dislikes Greeks, Assyrians, Kurds, Armenians with a great passion
Believe in Pan-Turkic ideals
Greatly admires and boasts of the Ottoman Empire


GREEK NATIONALIST

Fiercely anti-Turk
Macedonia should be province of Greece
Skeptical of Albanians


ALBANIAN NATIONALIST

Believe in Greater Albania
Fiercely anti-Serb and highly skeptical of Russia
Independence of Kosovo was greatest thing that happened in the past century


AMERICAN NATIONALIST

Believer in American Exceptionalism
Supported the Iraq and Afghanistan War
Often boasts of American military and economic power


ISRAELI NATIONALIST

Admires Netenyahu
Believer in one state solution
Hamas should be finished off once and for all


UKRAINIAN NATIONALIST

Fiercely anti-Russian
Admires Tymoshenko
Has neo-fascist tendencies


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I am not an expert on all the ethnic nationalism, so if something is inaccurate, forgive me, since I was only saying it from my perspective.

[Antimage]

I don't think any russian says they are the true slavs, that's just stupid

[StormBringer]

Any neighbouring nationalist. :heh:

[Minesweeper]

The worst are Montenegrin nationalists followed by Bosniaks. Both members of fake nations but first being a total artificial communist creation.

[Methmatician]

The worst are Montenegrin nationalists followed by Bosniaks. Both members of fake nations but first being a total artificial communist creation.
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[Jana]

Četniks/vehabije/ustaše.......bljuv. Also, white nationalists. They have no culture :p

[Grenzland]

The Grey wolves! Without doubt.

Their Turan is bullshit and they were supported by the NATO.

[Foxy]

Russians and Ukrainians are specular :picard1:

[Foxy]

Now the true answer: everybody who is nationalist about huge territories that are outside of their country = Americans and Russians.

[Equilibrium]

Borrebies.

[Musso]

The Grey wolves! Without doubt.

Their Turan is bullshit and they were supported by the NATO.

They still are.

[welp]

Borrebies.

/thread

[Böri]

Turk nationalism grew as reactionary nationalism against minority nationalisms (Orthodox and sometimes Muslim) which destroyed the empire. The Turks arent chauvinists. They pushed Turks to this. Also Ataturk isnt god in Turkish nationalism, he was a nationalist himself.

[Kamal900]

Israeli, American and Turkish nationalism are the worst.

[SKYNET]

What is the worst type of nationalist?



gigoloids, stearsoids, ubermenschoids, OWG'ods, dasroids

[armenianbodyhair]

Anyone who proliferates irredentist propaganda should be shot ASAP because it is poisonous to human relations.

[Anthropos]

There's too much bashing of nationalism on this forum already, and I don't think this thread helps. Most Apricians don't seem to understand the concept but confuse it with historical hitlerism, totalitarianisms or other highly intolerant forms of government. Yet some confuse it with racism. I see no problem with opting for the term patriotism instead, but that's a lot like like mixing apples and pears. Nationalism comes from a realization that today's modern societies need some policies to preserve anything at all of their cultures. Patriotism is the sentiment on a personal level of attachment to homeland etc.

[Anthropos]

Anyone who proliferates irredentist propaganda should be shot ASAP because it is poisonous to human relations.

Thank you, that's another thing which is not synonymous with nationalism. I don't want to shoot anyone though, since I think that's potentially bad for human relations too. ;)

[Hithaeglir]

All of them.

[barbatus]

White Nationalists are the worst kind

[barbatus]

The Grey wolves! Without doubt.

Their Turan is bullshit and they were supported by the NATO.

Throw in Jobbik too then. Turanism is batshit crazy. Trying to propose links between Hungarians and Japanese people is just nuts. And the idea of some Hungarian guy yelling about Central Asian brotherhood and worshiping Tengri is just too funny

[Pennywise]

What is the worst kind of nationalist to you? Worst in terms of being most annoying and you wouldn't want living in your community.

TURK NATIONALIST

Ataturk is a hero if not a god to him
Dislikes Greeks, Assyrians, Kurds, Armenians with a great passion
Believe in Pan-Turkic ideals
Greatly admires and boasts of the Ottoman Empire



I am not an expert on all the ethnic nationalism, so if something is inaccurate, forgive me, since I was only saying it from my perspective.

Obviously you are not. You don't know anything about Turkish natiolanism. These terms are just ridiculous. On the other hand, such list without a German nationalism cannot be taken serious.

[Grenzland]

German nationalism:


- Greater Germany (including Austria, Silesia, South Tyrol, etc.)
- Arch enemies are France, England and Poland
- admires 2nd or 3rd Reich

[Pennywise]

German nationalism:


- Greater Germany (including Austria, Silesia, South Tyrol, etc.)
- Arch enemies are France, England and Poland
- admires 2nd or 3rd Reich

You forgot these:

- Believing to German superiority
- Hate from all minorities.

[Grenzland]

- Hate from all minorities.

What minorities?

[Pennywise]

What minorities?

Minorities in Gemany and generally in Europe. Mainly muslims, Turks etc.

[Grenzland]

Minorites in Gemany and generally in Europe. Mainly muslims etc.

That's not typical German nationalism. Since your kind misbehaves in every nation you immigrate this is a typical thing for European nationalists in general.

[Pennywise]

That's not typical German nationalism. Since your kind misbehaves in every nation you immigrate this is a typical thing for European nationalists in general.

Show me a German nationalist who not the hate from Turks and Muslims in his/her country. Stop blabbering now, you guys even hate from Poles in Germany. It has nothing to do with "misbehaves" lol. This is just a excuse of typical racism of Germans.

[Grenzland]

Nobody cares for Turkey, we care for the Turks in Germany. What a surprise, Nationalists want to have a state where they live and not 234 other nations. You guys take yourself to serious.
Bulgarian or Greek nationalism is way more anti-Turk since there is nationalism. At this time Turkey was allied with Germany and Austria.

[Musso]

Germany and Turkey have often been allied with each other,,,I think their Nationalism compliments each others. Even Hitler thought fondly of Turkey and Ataturk.

[Grenzland]

But for some reasons Turks think they are discriminated all over Europe. Which is simply not true. They are just disliked and that IS because of their behaviour.

[Pennywise]

Nobody cares for Turkey, we care for the Turks in Germany. What a surprise, Nationalists want to have a state where they live and not 234 other nations. You guys take yourself to serious.
Bulgarian or Greek nationalism is way more anti-Turk since there is nationalism. At this time Turkey was allied with Germany and Austria.

What do you mean by that? Which nationalists want to have a state? Turks? Is this a new trend of German hysteria?

Bulgarians and Greeks are not relevant with the subject now. There are hundreds of years historical hostality between Turks and those balkan nations. Their actions are not much odd in this case. What I meant is, Germans have specific reasons for each nation to hate from them. Such as "misbehaviours", crimes, their culture etc.

[Cleitus]

Minorities in Gemany and generally in Europe. Mainly muslims, Turks etc.

Everybody hates Turks.

[Cleitus]

Turks are like Jews just a lot more stupid and much more incapable.

[welp]

Turks are like Jews just a lot more stupid and much more incapable.

What are gypsies then?

[Cleitus]

What are gypsies then?

It may sound harsh but they are Genetical waste.

[welp]

It may sound harsh but they are Genetical waste.

You missed my pun brahh.

Gypsies are supposed to be the nigger version of jews

[LightHouse89]

Civic Nationalists. Every one of them should be lynched.

[Sarmatian]

German nationalism:


- Greater Germany (including Austria, Silesia, South Tyrol, etc.)
- Arch enemies are France, England and Poland
- admires 2nd or 3rd Reich

Really? No Russia in the list??? Did you guys finally come to realize it's better on the long run to ally with Russia?

[Arend]

Germany and Turkey have often been allied with each other [citation needed]

I think their Nationalism compliments each others Yeah well you know that's just like your opinion man

Even Hitler thought fondly of Turkey and Ataturk.According to your logic Hitler wasn’t even German…..bedsides, who the fuck gives a damn about what Hitler though?

Really? No Russia in the list??? Historically Germany's biggest foreign enemy was always France, followed not so closely by England. To reach an agreement with Russia was always just a simple as to wage war with them. Germany's biggest enemies were (and are) all along other Germans though.

Did you guys finally come to realize it's better on the long run to ally with Russia?”In the long run” it would be better for us to remain neutral while trying to preserve economic and political stability in Europe

The worst kind of nationalist wasn’t even mentioned yet in this thread though. It the “Hur dur I live in another country but my home country is like totally the best country in the entire world” nationalist.

[Musso]

[citation needed]
Yeah well you know that's just like your opinion man
According to your logic Hitler wasn’t even German…..bedsides, who the fuck gives a damn about what Hitler though?


German Empire and Ottoman Empire were allied in WWI. After that, Germany and Turkey always had cordial and close relations.

Hitler was advancing German nationalism, so from perspective of German Nationalism, I cited Hitler.

[LightHouse89]

America doesnt have nationalism. I think you mean patriotism. Nationalism is ethnic based not patriotically based. Just to make that clear.

[Dzihadovic]

Srb nationalists, because they're fucking everywhere and it's because in 1999, during Operation Allied Force, the Americans dropped booby trapped AOL disks, some of the booby traps failed.

[Arend]

German Empire and Ottoman Empire were allied in WWI.You said that they were "often" allied, so often for you means exactly one time for 4 years?


After that, Germany and Turkey always had cordial and close relations. While I am not denying that there were certainly more on the friendly side, I would say that this also true for numerous other countries. Turkey neither was nor is one of our close Allies after the First World War. But if you want to believe that, that’s not really my business. You also believe such abstruse things as that our Nationalisms compliments each other’s. Not the first time though that I notice a little Armenian butthurt about this topic. And really. LITERALLY nobody here can stand them here.


Hitler was advancing German nationalism,Hitler was advancing a world full of choleric idiocy and is hardly representing German Nationalism. If I would use Hitler as an example I would be some asexual wannabe intellectual that neither drinks alcohol nor eats meat. I guess I would probably spend most of my time on Tumblr or Starbucks methinks. What a lousy life that would be.


so from perspective of German Nationalism, I cited Hitler.You didn’t even cite him; you just said that “Even Hitler thought fondly of Turkey and Ataturk”, which is a big difference.

[Anthropos]

Hitler was advancing a world full of choleric idiocy and is hardly representing German Nationalism.

I mean the guy didn't actually care much about the German people, if I understood things right. He's often been quoted as saying that the German people brought death on themselves for not being able to defeat the enemies that he went to war with. He didn't even listen to his generals but had to have the last say in everything until there was nothing left of Germany.

[LightHouse89]

I mean the guy didn't actually care much about the German people, if I understood things right. He's often been quoted as saying that the German people brought death on themselves for not being able to defeat the enemies that he went to war with. He didn't even listen to his generals but had to have the last say in everything until there was nothing left of Germany.

He was obsessed with himself. A terrible tactician which my nation's generals took note of. Especially how the Germans in ww2 modeled the command staff its no wonder they lost. I am shocked they lasted as long as they did though. Which goes to show the generals were good but the political leadership was irrational.

[Anthony PV]

Hitler and his buddies just put into practice ideas (racial purity, ethnic nationalism, social darwinism, eugenics, etc.) that were already present in the 'collective unconscious' of Westerners, not just Germans. Ideas that were elaborated earlier by guys going by the names of Arthur de Gobineau, George Vacher de Lapouge, Gustave Le Bon, Madison Grant, Theodore Lothrop Stoddard, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, etc. The reason why people nowaday want to demonize Hitler and National-Socialism is because they don't want to be reminded that all the atrocities committed under his command were committed for ideas they once sympathized with...


He was obsessed with himself. A terrible tactician which my nation's generals took note of. Especially how the Germans in ww2 modeled the command staff its no wonder they lost. I am shocked they lasted as long as they did though. Which goes to show the generals were good but the political leadership was irrational.

As for him being responsible for the military debacle Germany suffered at the end of World War II, well, it's part of the process of demonization: 'It's not my fault if I led my troops in a disaster, it's because Hitler told me to do so'.

[adsız]

Nationalism, patriotism, racism, xenophobia.

There is a little gap between these terms that throw people in to conceptual confusion.

A racist is always a nationalist, a patriot and xenophobic all together.
A nationalist is a patriot, may also be a racist but may not be xenophobic.
A patriot may not be a nationalist, racist nor a xenophobic.
A xenophobic may be none of these but may still hate foreigners.

An Afro-american may too be a patriot who is a xenophobic but can not be a nationalist because USA is a multi-national country. A white American may claim to be a nationalist but it has no meaning.

Germans are historically racist and xeonophobic. They always find a race to hate. They used to hate Jewish during WWII. Today, they generally hate everyone who is not German.


Turkish nationalism is a reaction against anti-Turks. Generally, a muslim can not be a racist because Quran forbids racism.
Turks, as a nation, are always friendly to foreigners.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Ukranian because they helped george soros install a corrupt puppet dictator in their own country.

[Linebacker]

You should have at least placed an "All of them" option for us loyal goyim democrats.

[Darth Revan]

1) Ukres
2) American


The rest may have 1 or 2 arguments, even if I don't agree with any of them (can't put up with borrebyism) or dislike their way of exposing.

But Ukres just have hot air and Russia-be-problem in their skull. Americans have hot air and Team America slogans about the land of the brave, freedom is muh gun, and US n1 even though I've never left the country.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Nationalism, patriotism, racism, xenophobia.

There is a little gap between these terms that throw people in to conceptual confusion.

A racist is always a nationalist, a patriot and xenophobic all together.
A nationalist is a patriot, may also be a racist but may not be xenophobic.
A patriot may not be a nationalist, racist nor a xenophobic.
A xenophobic may be none of these but may still hate foreigners.

An Afro-american may too be a patriot who is a xenophobic but can not be a nationalist because USA is a multi-national country. A white American may claim to be a nationalist but it has no meaning.

Germans are historically racist and xeonophobic. They always find a race to hate. They used to hate Jewish during WWII. Today, they generally hate everyone who is not German.


Turkish nationalism is a reaction against anti-Turks. Generally, a muslim can not be a racist because Quran forbids racism.
Turks, as a nation, are always friendly to foreigners.

Patriot and nationalist are the same thing. Talking about 'nationalists' is just marxist propaganda in the first place. What should we be, internationalists?! People are patriotic towards their family, country, and people. Not for some silly propaganda ideals, that is how communist cult fanatacism and religions cult crap works.

Xenophobia is a lot like homophobia, almost but not completely just a bullshit concept. The truth is, foreign influences on society are seldom good, and most of the time they are very bad for the current natives. It's not that japanese are fearful of foreigners or even hate them, they simply have no desire to have too much foreign influence, they only pick and choose what they feel is best for them.

Most "white nationalists" don't hate anyone, they just recognize that multicult society does not work well, and most of the world is full of hoodlums, thieves and conmen. All this feelgood crap is only ever applied to white people, as well. No one of other races are expected to play by these special rules, they can't even be constrained to obey LAWS let alone 'rules' like this.

[Buchan]

Irish Nationalists.

[Pahli]

Obviously Turkish nationalists, and they have many racists too like MHP fanatics, who basically are retarded fascists. They should be shot.

[Rædwald]

Sampson Option.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Civic liberal nationalists, like the Scots.

"I WANT TO BREAK FREE OF THE UK SO I CAN IMPORT MORE NON-SCOTS QUICKER"

[Graham]

Civic liberal nationalists, like the Scots.

"I WANT TO BREAK FREE OF THE UK SO I CAN IMPORT MORE NON-SCOTS QUICKER"

The irony, when you don't have much in common with the majority of other Canadians, ancestrally. Go home.

[XenophobicPrussian]

The irony, when you don't have much in common with the majority of other Canadians, ancestrally. Go home.
Why do you hate your hair colour?

[mikhail]

Israeli, American, Ukrainian. All of these are fake nations populated almost exclusively with shitty people, and the world would be a brighter place if they died out from plague.

[Graham]

Why do you hate your hair colour?

I don't.

British nationalism still dreams back to the Empire days. Being anti-European, but ok with commonwealth migrants who have already came here in the millions to England mostly from Pakistan/India & from the Caribbean.

If I could pick, I'd love for Canadians, Americans or New Zealanders to come here, or young English people to sort the age gap problem. It's a no-brainer. Don't mind other Europeans also.





Farage said the UK needed to take back its borders and introduce an Australian-style points system, admitting he preferred immigrants from Australia or India to those from Eastern Europe as they were "more likely to speak English, understand common law and have a connection with this country than some people that come perhaps from countries that haven't fully recovered from being behind the iron curtain".

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukips-nigel-farage-i-prefer-immigrants-india-australia-those-eastern-europe-1497862

[XenophobicPrussian]

I don't.

British nationalism still dreams back to the Empire days. Being anti-European, but ok with commonwealth migrants who have already came here in the millions to England mostly from Pakistan/India & from the Caribbean.

If I could pick, I'd love for Canadians, Americans or New Zealanders to come here, or young English people to sort the age gap problem. It's a no-brainer. I don't mind other European also.
That's not what the SNP wants. They're even more liberal than Labour. They want Pakistanis, Indians, Caribbean people, and refugees.

I of course support Scottish people wanting to be seperate from England, but they want to be seperate because England isn't liberal enough. I mean, by all means.. liberal nationalists should have the right to displace the population of their own country quicker than England is allowing if they want to, just saying it's stupid.

[Rudel]

Anything that isn't French nationalism is the worst.

[LightHouse89]

Anything that isn't French nationalism is the worst.

I only like the far right in France. Or the New Right except the pagan views they have.

[LightHouse89]

I would take America off of the chart for Nationalism. There is no such thing as 'American Nationalism'. America isnt a nation it is a country.

[StormBringer]

This is offensive really, how didn't we make it to the list?

[TheGoldenSon]

Everyone else who doesn't bow down to the lily banner.

[Cristiano viejo]

American nationalist sucks the dick of the Israeli nationalist.
Ukrainian nationalist admires Timosenko (who is Jewish) and has Neo-Fascist tendencies? loooool

[LightHouse89]

American nationalist sucks the dick of the Israeli nationalist.
Ukrainian nationalist admires Timosenko (who is Jewish) and has Neo-Fascist tendencies? loooool

My point is there is literally no such thing as American Nationalism. America isnt a nation its a country with millions of diverse peoples. Not of us are the same so how can we be a Nation? We are united by nothing at all.

I think you mean American Patriotism which is entirely political like libertarianism. That isnt Nationalism.

[katniss]

Hrulj, Kastrioti1443

[Grenzland]

Ukrainian nationalist admires Timosenko (who is Jewish) and has Neo-Fascist tendencies? loooool

Not all of them, the more extreme ones of course don't want to be part of NATO/EU.

[Böri]

I am not a nationalist myself but I find the idea that non Euro people can't be nationalists irrelevant. European or White people are superior only by Atheist standards and hypotheses. This idea was born in the 19th century by colonialist British empire and supported by Darwin thesis.

[DarknessInside]

Internet-only Nationalism and Keyboard Warriors.

[Sideritis]

Oh great, starting all kind of wars in the Balkan ( and even WWI at least (http://www.dw.de/the-assassination-that-started-world-war-i/a-4744730)), making genocides, trying ethnic cleansing and still the Serbs haven't made it to this clearly "impartial" poll. Speechless.:blink:

[Puppy]

What are "albanians" doing here? What a stupid theead. Albanians are not asking land from Italy or Bulgaria. Why is it wrong to want to live with all the people that share the same nationality with you. You dont know because it never happen to you. Idiot.

Also Serbs, Bullgarian and greeks have allredy tried to be greater.

[TrueNordicism]

Pan-European nationalists. The ones who think "being white skinned" makes them White.

[Vorg]

RUSSIAN NATIONALIST

Putin is his Hero
Fiercely anti-NATO and anti-US


- This is not Russian nationalism, this is - Russian patriotism

[TrueNordicism]

I'm surprised no swarthy R1b ibex farmers have quoted me on here yet.

[mikhail]

They're all borrebies and are extremely obnoxious to be around.

[Bobby Martnen]

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