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Antimage
02-23-2015, 12:05 PM
http://archivum.magyarhirlap.hu/sites/default/files/field/image/2013/11/25/13718526_11n.jpghttp://2010-2014.kormany.hu/download/4/90/00000/Martonyi-J%C3%A1nos_231.jpghttp://keyframe.nava.hu/service/gallery/keyframe/2011/03/21/duna-36620/duna-36620-12350300.jpg

Antimage
02-23-2015, 12:08 PM
He is turanid+pamirid+some other. His best fit is Tatarstan

Looks like this tatar man in the middle (third from right)

http://qha.com.ua/resim/2013/11/05/27a3d73ba1b472f3006ed30b1172593d.jpg

blogen
02-23-2015, 12:13 PM
Martonyi is a clear Europid, an Alpinoid. He has a typical Danube Swabian jovial peasant head.

Stears
02-23-2015, 12:15 PM
He is a descendant of Bach-hussars (with czech or austrian ancestry). Bach-hussars adopted Hungarian names after 1867. Typical in Bohemia.

Cern
02-23-2015, 12:22 PM
Good example the Turanid type. Look at the mustache, typical turanid mustache! Very similar like Stears.

Alchemysta
02-23-2015, 12:23 PM
turanid-alipine

blogen
02-23-2015, 12:42 PM
turanid-alipine

And what is the Cromagnoid on him?

Jana
02-23-2015, 12:55 PM
Martonyi is a clear Europid, an Alpinoid. He has a typical Danube Swabian jovial peasant head.

Pfff xD

blogen
02-23-2015, 01:02 PM
Pfff xD

Really, this is an typical Swabian face and mustache form, this was the usual Swabian look, especially in the first half of the 20th century.

http://www.sulinet.hu/oroksegtar/data/magyarorszagi_nemzetisegek/nemetek/bonyhad/kommt_essen/pages/images/008_sutemenyek_clip_image002_0003.jpg

Here is a close Alpinoid form:
http://www.sulinet.hu/oroksegtar/data/telepulesek_ertekei/Herend/pages/images/012_herend_a_renszervaltas_clip_image002_0002.jpg

Jana
02-23-2015, 01:04 PM
Really, this is an typical Swabian face and mustache form, this was the usual Swabian look, especially in the first half of the 20th century.

http://www.sulinet.hu/oroksegtar/data/magyarorszagi_nemzetisegek/nemetek/bonyhad/kommt_essen/pages/images/008_sutemenyek_clip_image002_0003.jpg

Here is a close Alpinoid form:
http://www.sulinet.hu/oroksegtar/data/telepulesek_ertekei/Herend/pages/images/012_herend_a_renszervaltas_clip_image002_0002.jpg

I Know, was just joking. Danube Schwabians look alpine/CM and are brunettes. My grandmother was typical as people from this photos.

blogen
02-23-2015, 01:32 PM
I Know, was just joking. Danube Schwabians look alpine/CM and are brunettes. My grandmother was typical as people from this photos.

Mostly Alpine, there are Alpine/CM between them, but only few percent. This is a Swabian sample from Southern Hungary:

Shape of the zygomatic bone:
rounded: 63,9% (Europid)
flat: 30% (admixture with Europo-Mongoloid elements)
narrowed: 6,1% (Europid, part of the Dinarid character)

Europids: 70%
Alpinoid: 15,9%
Dinaroid: 11,9%
Nordoid: 5%
Eastbaltid: 4,8%
Gracile med: 4,6%
Cromagnoid: 3,4%
Armenoid: 1%
Atlanto med: 0,6%
undefinable: 22,9%

Europo-Mongoloids: 30%
Turanoid: 5,2%
Pamiroid: 2,3%
undefinable: 22,5%

total undefinable: 45,4%

Their admixture with the Hungarians is not huge, but significan, because mostly the Swabian villages were dominantly Swabian populated settlements, except the Southern Hungarian villages, where the multiethnic situation was the common with a dominant ethnic group. And because of this, their internal admixture is very high and if we see the different basic elements, than the huge undefinable part is understendable.

The average Europo-Mongoloid percentage between the whole Swabian population of the Carpathian basin is maybe ~10% only.

source of the data: dr. Henkey Gyula: A Kárpát-medence népeinek etnikai-embertani képe (The anthropological view of the Carpathian-basin's peoples) - 1993

Cern
02-23-2015, 01:36 PM
Swabians 30% europomongoloid? Interesting.

blogen
02-23-2015, 01:39 PM
Swabians 30% europomongoloid? Interesting.

:picard1:

Read again pls!

Stears
02-23-2015, 05:59 PM
turanid-alipine So , Are southern Germans turanids? Because he has typical fat bavarian old peasant face.

armenianbodyhair
02-23-2015, 06:01 PM
EXTREMELY NOBLE TURANID.

Not a Cop
02-23-2015, 06:05 PM
Mostly Alpine, there are Alpine/CM between them, but only few percent. This is a Swabian sample from Southern Hungary:

Shape of the zygomatic bone:
rounded: 63,9% (Europid)
flat: 30% (admixture with Europo-Mongoloid elements)
narrowed: 6,1% (Europid, part of the Dinarid character)

Europids: 70%
Alpinoid: 15,9%
Dinaroid: 11,9%
Nordoid: 5%
Eastbaltid: 4,8%
Gracile med: 4,6%
Cromagnoid: 3,4%
Armenoid: 1%
Atlanto med: 0,6%
undefinable: 22,9%

Europo-Mongoloids: 30%
Turanoid: 5,2%
Pamiroid: 2,3%
undefinable: 22,5%

total undefinable: 45,4%

Their admixture with the Hungarians is not huge, but significan, because mostly the Swabian villages were dominantly Swabian populated settlements, except the Southern Hungarian villages, where the multiethnic situation was the common with a dominant ethnic group. And because of this, their internal admixture is very high and if we see the different basic elements, than the huge undefinable part is understendable.

The average Europo-Mongoloid percentage between the whole Swabian population of the Carpathian basin is maybe ~10% only.

source of the data: dr. Henkey Gyula: A Kárpát-medence népeinek etnikai-embertani képe (The anthropological view of the Carpathian-basin's peoples) - 1993

Do you have pigmentation statistics for this population?

Stears
02-23-2015, 06:06 PM
EXTREMELY NOBLE TURANID. Like old & fat Southern Germans?

armenianbodyhair
02-23-2015, 06:15 PM
Like old & fat Southern Germans?

like ur mother last night.

Stears
02-23-2015, 06:22 PM
Mostly Alpine, there are Alpine/CM between them, but only few percent. This is a Swabian sample from Southern Hungary: Shape of the zygomatic bone: rounded: 63,9% (Europid) flat: 30% (admixture with Europo-Mongoloid elements) narrowed: 6,1% (Europid, part of the Dinarid character) Europids: 70% Alpinoid: 15,9% Dinaroid: 11,9% Nordoid: 5% Eastbaltid: 4,8% Gracile med: 4,6% Cromagnoid: 3,4% Armenoid: 1% Atlanto med: 0,6% undefinable: 22,9% Europo-Mongoloids: 30% Turanoid: 5,2% Pamiroid: 2,3% undefinable: 22,5% total undefinable: 45,4% Their admixture with the Hungarians is not huge, but significan, because mostly the Swabian villages were dominantly Swabian populated settlements, except the Southern Hungarian villages, where the multiethnic situation was the common with a dominant ethnic group. And because of this, their internal admixture is very high and if we see the different basic elements, than the huge undefinable part is understendable. The average Europo-Mongoloid percentage between the whole Swabian population of the Carpathian basin is maybe ~10% only. source of the data: dr. Henkey Gyula: A Kárpát-medence népeinek etnikai-embertani képe (The anthropological view of the Carpathian-basin's peoples) - 1993 It is not true. Modern scientists do not support this politically motivated idea.

Jana
02-23-2015, 06:23 PM
This fat and ugly (southern) Germans stereotype is very funny, usually pushed by envious lesser civilizations. Here I dont mean Hungary. It is known that more primitive country is, looks is more valued as only way to get a higher standard of living by selling yourself as piece of furniture. Danube Schwabians were killed and displaced by commies and nobody ever went to trial for that. Also, villagers have different estetics than urban people and different tastes. To each its own.

PS Blogen, I am aware of their mix. Its logical.

Stears
02-23-2015, 06:23 PM
like ur mother last night. Calm down swarthy gypsy.

armenianbodyhair
02-23-2015, 06:24 PM
Calm down swarthy gypsy.

Or what?

Stears
02-23-2015, 06:27 PM
This fat and ugly (southern) Germans stereotype is very funny, usually pushed by envious lesser civilizations. Here I dont mean Hungary. It is known that more primitive country is, looks is more valued as only way to get a higher standard of living by selling yourself as piece of furniture. Danube Schwabians were killed and displaced by commies and nobody ever went to trial for that. Also, villagers have different estetics than urban people and different tastes. To each its own. PS Blogen, I am aware of their mix. Its logical. Have you ever lived in germany? This is a VERY typical old southern German face. He is descendant of Bach Hussars, who were Habsburg austrian/czech origin officers in the Hungarian public administration after the 1848-49 revolution. Most of them adopted Hungarian family names after the compromise of 1867, and they settled in Hungary.

Jana
02-23-2015, 06:36 PM
Have you ever lived in germany? This is a VERY typical old southern German face. He is descendant of Bach Hussars, who were Habsburg austrian/czech origin officers in the Hungarian public administration after the 1848-49 revolution. Most of them adopted Hungarian family names after the compromise of 1867, and they settled in Hungary.

I have lived in Deutschland :) He look like a typical oldie southerner, I agree. You could say that we Croats look better than Germans on average, being taller, thinner and more stylish lol .....but we are also more primitive, dishonest andimply more backward. Its true, Germany is heart of Europa, and country to respect. I know they adopted Hungarian names, my ancestors did too. I guess they tried to fit in as any civilized person would do.

Stears
02-23-2015, 06:46 PM
I have lived in Deutschland :) He look like a typical oldie southerner, I agree. You could say that we Croats look better than Germans on average, being taller, thinner and more stylish lol .....but we are also more primitive, dishonest andimply more backward. Its true, Germany is heart of Europa, and country to respect. I know they adopted Hungarian names, my ancestors did too. I guess they tried to fit in as any civilized person would do. I'm not sure that German contribution in science and technology is better than Hungarian if you compare the sizes of the two population.