Classify a very european looking iraqi

[themrdude1990]

He is Iraqi and a friend of mine and he looks for european

[Itarildë]

He looks like a half Irish and half English dude I know... how weird...

[Also]

He does looks british/irish or from benelux. So I am kinda suspicious.

[Antimage]

how the fuck is he iraqi

[themrdude1990]

Guys i have no idea how he looks like that xD he has an arabic name and last name

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

I can see the Arab in him.

[omidjahan]

look Noric
Look polish in me Eyes

[themrdude1990]

Here's another pic
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10712731_623329694442464_5960118144778782803_n.jpg ?oh=1a3e742363fb141611b6630a2e0bf1d1&oe=558356BF&__gda__=1435248521_509a717037366cb2e046212f63067c8 c

[Highlands]

I've seen some Syrians who look similar but this guy looks North European, interesting :)

[barbatus]

This man is an Arab?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Super british looking, crazy.

[barbatus]

I have seen blue eyed, light haired, pale skinned Arabs before but usually they have Arab facial features. This man doesn't.

[themrdude1990]

We are both chaldean(christian minority in iraq)

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

He looks like a British. If I seen him person I would have guess and thought he was a European from Britain. he don't have Arab features.

[Styrian Mujo]

He looks like a Keltic Aryan type. Nothing even remotely Semtic/Arabic about him.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Minority type look, non-average.

[themrdude1990]

I know more than one of iraqi people who are extremly pale and ginger here's my brothers best friend and if you don't believe he's from iraq check the wall its all on arabic and he's also a chaldean https://scontent-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1378722_740375199321254_856390522_n.jpg?oh=3eefd76 9fbf135935ba15b61e4f2f10a&oe=557E7059

[barbatus]

Honestly, I look more Arab than this guy. I've been mistaken to Syrian before. This guy looks Irish.

[leisitox]

Pred. Keltic-Nordid, nothing arabid nor irano-afghan even with darker pigmentation.
Interesting case :)

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Holy shit that's weird.... Not so much his red hair, my grandmother is red haired, it's no big deal, there's a handfull of red-haired iraqis
But his facial features is nothing like what's common in Iraq, the guy looks Keltic.

[Ice]

I know a kurd who looks exactly like him.

[welp]

A Syrian I know has light brown hair and green eyes but he has a snub nose and very MENA features.

This guy's parents were probably not iraqi but converts.

[Drawing-slim]

He most likely is a turk in family origins with european ancestry from the Ottoman Empire era, aka albos who ruled Egypt and Iraq.

[themrdude1990]

I'm friends with this guy but his parents are not converts they all speak arabic fluently with iraqi name and last name

[Johnlemon]

He looks Irish /british too me, but i know that there are some gingers among arabs / middle easterners , north africans etc .

It reminds me of another redhead , a tunisian football player Fakhreddine Ben Youssef

http://www.mylorraine.fr/static/images_articles/76102_947_2013123155835227.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Keltic-Nordic. EXTREMELY rare and atypical, considering his ethnic origins.

[themrdude1990]

Yeah but the tunisian player has arabic features while the iraqi one doesn't look arab at all

[rhiannon]

His features look Iraqi or vaguely ME in general. His coloring obviously looks European.

[Shah-Jehan]

Nordid.


He has similar pigmentation as the Iraqi former politician/general Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/07/world/07syria.650.jpg

[themrdude1990]

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[welp]

Nordid.


He has similar pigmentation as the Iraqi former politician/general Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/07/world/07syria.650.jpg

Al-Douri had leukemia and underwent treatment. I also heard he had a weak case of albinism that the americans tried using against him. Will try to find the article.

[Pahli]

I've seen some Assyrians that resemble Celts a lot, not sure where they get it from (could be Byzantine left overs) xD

[themrdude1990]

He does have turkish root

[dawson]

his mom cheated with a yankee during Gulf War

[armenianbodyhair]

his mom cheated with a yankee during Gulf War

Lmao

[Shepherd]

I've seen some Assyrians that resemble Celts a lot, not sure where they get it from (could be Byzantine left overs) xD

Byzantines didnt look like Celts in the first place, its probably just random rare cases

[Pahli]

Byzantines didnt look like Celts in the first place, its probably just random rare cases

Either that or some Celts that went further into the Middle East. But they should really investigate this.

[themrdude1990]

Byzantines didnt look like Celts in the first place, its probably just random rare cases

He's not byzantine his great grandparents were armenian turks survival of armenian genocide in 1915

[ramon]

Definitely not Arab. Pure British.

[McCauley]

Well, if he has Turkish roots like you said, then the obvious answer is Galatian :D

[Dictator]

u trolling nigga.

[themrdude1990]

u trolling nigga.

Nope xD

[Whiteman]

Most likely the descendent of the British colonial soldiers when Britain was conquering the Ottoman Iraq during the Mesopotamian campaign at the first world war. Very unusual to have that perfect celtic pedigree with virtually no Arabic resemblances so it can't be some random atypical Iraqi.

[themrdude1990]

Most likely the descendent of the British colonial soldiers when Britain was conquering the Ottoman Iraq during the Mesopotamian campaign at the first world war. Very unusual to have that perfect celtic pedigree with virtually no Arabic resemblances so it can't be some random atypical Iraqi.

55516

Here's a closer photo

[themrdude1990]

55516

Here's a closer photo

Any more classifications?

[themrdude1990]

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[Faklon]

Besides red-hair,I think he's close to Dinaro-med types.

[interes]

He is Iraqi and a friend of mine and he looks for european

mamluk :)

[themrdude1990]

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[Azalea]

I've seen quite some redheads in Southeastern Turkey, Northern Syria & Northern Iraq. More so than blondes. They were mostly Arabic (speaking) Christians or Assyrians. The only difference is that this guy has (sort of) European features. But I am not surprised he is Iraqi. Especially if he is Chaldean.

[Nurzat]

Here's another pic
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10712731_623329694442464_5960118144778782803_n.jpg ?oh=1a3e742363fb141611b6630a2e0bf1d1&oe=558356BF&__gda__=1435248521_509a717037366cb2e046212f63067c8 c

haha, that's why he's the captain :D

[themrdude1990]

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[Proto-Shaman]

the last remnants of R1b, another example, ex-Iraqi general Al-Douri:

http://www.baghdadalrashid.com/vb3/images/imgcache/2006/03/12.jpg
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/images/article_images/people/izzat-ibrahim-al-douri.jpg

[Proto-Shaman]

55516

Here's a closer photo


If he has Turkish roots, then he is possibly a Laz.

[Alphawolf]

He is Iraqi and a friend of mine and he looks for european

Is he Turkish?

[themrdude1990]

Is he Turkish?

He is turkish descent not 100% turkish

[Azalea]

the last remnants of R1b, another example, ex-Iraqi general Al-Douri:


Are you fcking kidding me? R1b = red hair? :lol:

[Herr Abubu]

The greatest phenotypical difference between Europeans and Middle Easterners is skin colour so it is no surprise that he looks fully European.

[Johnlemon]

Yeah but the tunisian player has arabic features while the iraqi one doesn't look arab at all

I would say berber features , but i have already met 2 north-africans with a ginger-euro look

For example , this girl is from Algeria


http://s4.postimg.org/najv52v59/B_oz0sz_W8_AAC1p3_jpg_large.jpg

[Stimpy]

He looks Balkan.

[Incal]

Well, if he has Turkish roots like you said, then the obvious answer is Galatian :D

Or Seraglio.

[themrdude1990]

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[Hamlet]

Looks quite Turkish IMO

[themrdude1990]

Looks quite Turkish IMO

What's turkish about him?

[themrdude1990]

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[Peter Nirsch]

I think he was adopted or kidnapped by Iraqis when he was a child.

[themrdude1990]

I think he was adopted or kidnapped by Iraqis when he was a child.

Hahahhahahaha

[Bagot]

He is from Erbil, capital of the Kurdistan Region of Iraq near the border with Turkey. So he is probably a Kurd. Not an average Kurd, anyway.

[themrdude1990]

He is from Erbil, capital of the Kurdistan Region of Iraq near the border with Turkey. So he is probably a Kurd. Not an average Kurd, anyway.

Not kurd assyrian

[Bagot]

Not kurd assyrian

Not an average Assyrian as well.

[Peikko]

:picard1: lol at people who actually think he's ethnic iraqi.

[Elms]

He does have turkish root

If he is Assyrian, he does not have "Turkish" roots. The only people Assyrians(Chaldeans, Syriacs) mixed with were Armenians. He is most likely 100% Assyrian, unless his ancestors actually mixed with Brits/Frenchies/Russians, which rarely happened. When it did happen, they usually moved to the respective country of the foreign parent.

[themrdude1990]

If he is "Chaldean" he does not have "Turkish" roots. The only people Assyrians/Chaldeans/Syriac-Arameans mixed with were Armenians. He is most likely 100% Assyrian.

His dad is chaldean and his mother is armenian-turk

[Elms]

His dad is chaldean and his mother is armenian-turk

Like an Armenian from Turkey or actually a mixed Armenian/Turk? What part of Turkey is the Turkish ancestry from?

[themrdude1990]

Like an Armenian from Turkey or actually a mixed Armenian/Turk? What part of Turkey is the Turkish ancestry from?

armenian from turkey

[Elms]

armenian from turkey

Okay, than he isn't Turkish. He's half Assyrian(Chaldean, Syriac) and Armenian, right?

[themrdude1990]

Okay, than he isn't Turkish. He's half Assyrian(Chaldean, Syriac) and Armenian, right?

I have another friend who is also ginger like him but he's pure assyrian

[Elms]

I have another friend who is also ginger like him but he's pure assyrian

Yeah, gingers are a minority in the Assyrian community.

They usually look more like these guys though:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HeyimNpUzHI/TX2yEH8D7CI/AAAAAAAABMk/tSZqRLnCE-E/s1600/UptownFilmFestival-AP1.jpg
http://www.gazetegercek.com/resim/09/01/mardinli-suryaniler-israilin-vahsetini-kinadi-1.jpg
https://bulentakyildiz.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/hqdefault.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nkqT6tnorK8/T97L5dhYuBI/AAAAAAAAGK0/t3Sbjy9csBY/s400/CAL%2BMartin%2BHanna.jpg
https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t31.0-8/1973345_617414628342873_1113557454_o.jpg

[zhaoyun]

I've seen some Levantines who were redheads. Rare, but they exist. He looks Celtic, like Irish/Scottish.

[themrdude1990]

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[Rose]

doesnt look how i imagine arabs

he looks some Turks i know who are from black sea region

[Highlands]

9 pages and rated 5 stars.. Successful thread :D

[finþaų]

I can see the Arab in him.

I assume then that you can see the Arab in every European alive provided someone tells you that they're Arab.

[SKYNET]

his ancestors were raped by British colonists, and this is why he does look British

[themrdude1990]

doesnt look how i imagine arabs

he looks some Turks i know who are from black sea region

Yes thats why he is atypical

[themrdude1990]

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[themrdude1990]

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[Grace O'Malley]

He could pass in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England and many other European countries. He looks very North-West European.

[JeanBaMac]

Iranid with a red pigmentation.

[themrdude1990]

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[Armand_Duval]

Genes of the crusaders express every now an then.

[Jana]

He could pass in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England and many other European countries. He looks very North-West European.

+ 100. I think he could fit as Norwgian too. Wow :D

[Shah-Jehan]

Genes of the crusaders express every now an then.

Crusaders never went to Iraq.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Pollack loll looks like a lot like polish gingers. This guy has to be 100 percent euro or something because he's atypical for the med in general not just the eastern part. But Mesopotamia ? This guys a whitey

[Armand_Duval]

Crusaders never went to Iraq.

But they made presence in Arab world it was a matter of time, genes found their way up to Irak.

[Azalea]

I honestly think red hair is more common in the Levant than blond hair (in adults). I was in Istanbul this year and I saw a Syrian/Arabic man with bright red hair, blue eyes and freckles all over his face. And when I think about it, I actually know quite a few Iraqis (mostly Assyrians) and Syrians with red hair.

[themrdude1990]

Pollack loll looks like a lot like polish gingers. This guy has to be 100 percent euro or something because he's atypical for the med in general not just the eastern part. But Mesopotamia ? This guys a whitey

56977

Here's closer photo
Probably not 100% euro

[Seth MacFarlane]

56977

Here's closer photo
Probably not 100% euro

Nah bro still looks the same almost although closer he looks a ill different but nothing exclusively exotic. Probably has some alpine influence but that's typical of Eastern Europe too. Non East med , non Arabid , non iranid or anything else typical of Iraq. Doesn't have a typical pheno of even the most European looking middle easterners. There's whiter looking Turkish people but he's still atypical in that group. More Brits can pass better in Iraq then he does lol. But he could pass as Turk tho of the lighter types especially considering you said he has origins there on the other page

[themrdude1990]

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[Hungarian_master]

Irano Nordid+CM

[aherne]

If he's half-Armenian, then case is closed. Some Armenians inherit Aryan phenotype, so it is nothing really out of the ordinary about this guy (except that he's an atypical individual)...

[themrdude1990]

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