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Anglojew
02-26-2015, 10:04 AM
This is why Western Countries Need To Take ALL Ancient Artifacts From Islamic Countries For safe-keeping.


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Kamal900
02-26-2015, 10:16 AM
Iraq was smashed to pieces by the Jewish neo-cons along with their shabbos goyim who were responsible for destroying the nation and brought these terrorists to power in the first place.

Pahli
02-26-2015, 10:45 AM
Iraq was smashed to pieces by the Jewish neo-cons along with their shabbos goyim who were responsible for destroying the nation and brought these terrorists to power in the first place.

Islam has destroyed a lot of pre-islamic history in many muslim countries ... No jews are to blame!

Musso
02-26-2015, 10:47 AM
ISIS though is fulfilling many of the West's geopolitical goals. It's the only force actively fighting both Assad, Hezbollah, and Iran,,,,and I'm sure neo-cons will support ISIS in that fight.

Kamal900
02-26-2015, 10:49 AM
Islam has destroyed a lot of pre-islamic history in many muslim countries ... No jews are to blame!

The terrorists that are controlling Iraq were brought to power after the invasion of Iraq in 2003. They are trying to get a foothold in Syria but Assad is fighting against them which is all due to Russia and China vetoing against NATO intervention which sadly NATO bombed Libya back to the stone age. The jewish neo-cons were largely responsible for the war, along with AIPAC, for Israel's behalf nothing more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4

Anglojew
02-26-2015, 11:00 AM
Islam has destroyed a lot of pre-islamic history in many muslim countries ... No jews are to blame!

There's many examples including the Islamic Waqf's building works in Jerusulem. Israeli archaeologists literally sift through the rubble and often find priceless antiquities.

Another example is the Saudis who are even detroying Muslim heritage (as well as pre-Islamic):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_early_Islamic_heritage_sites_in_Sau di_Arabia

adsız
02-26-2015, 11:09 AM
What ISIS is doing is less than 1% of what the west has done..!

https://www.globalpolicy.org/humanitarian-issues-in-iraq/consequences-of-the-war-and-occupation-of-iraq/destruction-of-iraqs-cultural-heritage.html


The United States and its allies ignored the warnings of organizations and scholars concerning the protection of Iraq's cultural heritage, including museums, libraries, archaeological sites and other precious repositories. Arsonists badly burned the National Library and looters pillaged the National Museum. Looters also damaged or destroyed many historic buildings and artifacts. The US constructed a military base on the site of ancient Babylon. Coalition forces destroyed or badly damaged many historic urban areas and buildings, while thieves have ruined thousands of incomparable, unprotected archeological sites.

US customs officials have returned more than 1,000 stolen Iraqi artifacts, found in the US, to the Iraqi embassy in Washington. The scale of the recovered antiquities suggests that illegal excavations and smugglings continue. Suspected involvement by US personnel in the theft of artifacts calls into question previous US officials' assertions that Iraqi "extremists" were to blame for the sale of stolen Iraqi artifacts.

Kamal900
02-26-2015, 11:11 AM
What ISIS is doing is less than 1% of what the west has done..!

https://www.globalpolicy.org/humanitarian-issues-in-iraq/consequences-of-the-war-and-occupation-of-iraq/destruction-of-iraqs-cultural-heritage.html

Indeed its despicable, but that shows you how unfair the world is.

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 11:28 AM
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Drawing-slim
02-26-2015, 11:38 AM
ISIS though is fulfilling many of the West's geopolitical goals. It's the only force actively fighting both Assad, Hezbollah, and Iran,,,,and I'm sure neo-cons will support ISIS in that fight.
I am even suspicious that ISIS could turn out to be US's best ally in some future.
If you think about it ISIS makes US's best toughest much needed dog in that region.
US has spent billions trillions training afghan and Iraqi army just to see them fail over and over=unreliable buisnes partner. These religious lunatics could be plaid much easier and much cheaper and you defenitely can rely on the to control shit.

Drawing-slim
02-26-2015, 11:46 AM
Ultimately is this the will of God?!?!?!
If we consider such colossal fuck-up mistake it was to go to Iraq in the first place it has to be the hand of God to lead a modern empire nation to make such damn rookie mistake. As if sombody hypnotized USA at its shining moment to go and fuck it up somehow.
And now you have Obama president, clearly a devout Muslim.
May the lord be gentle with us all. Seems like we're all fucked!

Musso
02-26-2015, 11:59 AM
I am even suspicious that ISIS could turn out to be US's best ally in some future.
If you think about it ISIS makes US's best toughest much needed dog in that region.
US has spent billions trillions training afghan and Iraqi army just to see them fail over and over=unreliable buisnes partner. These religious lunatics could be plaid much easier and much cheaper and you defenitely can rely on the to control shit.

ISIS is 100 times more effective than US trained Iraqi or Afghan army. ISIS is neo-cons dream come true. They achieve all their goals, they are dividing Muslims, they are not targeting Israel at all.

Musso
02-26-2015, 12:08 PM
Also ISIS is fullfilling another goal of the neo-cons and NATO. It is cleaning the Middle East of the "pesty Christians and Shias" to make the Middle East under-control of the Western aligned Sunnis. The goals is a Sunni-Dominated Middle East, basically replicating Saudi Arabia (Sunni fundamentalist, dictatorship, Western military/economic ally) to all the MIddle East.

Anyone that opposes this goal of the neo-cons, must support the Russia-Iran-Assad alliance.

Read my 'The Unholy Alliance' thread for more details.

denz
02-26-2015, 12:13 PM
Iraq was the center of science and culture before.

Drawing-slim
02-26-2015, 12:17 PM
Also ISIS is fullfilling another goal of the neo-cons and NATO. It is cleaning the Middle East of the "pesty Christians and Shias" to make the Middle East under-control of the Western aligned Sunnis. The goals is a Sunni-Dominated Middle East, basically replicating Saudi Arabia (Sunni fundamentalist, dictatorship, Western military/economic ally) to all the MIddle East.

Anyone that opposes this goal of the neo-cons, must support the Russia-Iran-Assad alliance.

Read my 'The Unholy Alliance' thread for more details.To be clear Sunnis and US Christians would be the holy people against evil Russia Iran & greece.

Musso
02-26-2015, 12:19 PM
To be clear Sunnis and US Christians would be the holy people against evil Russia Iran & greece.

The US Media just needs to dupe the US Christians into believing that the Sunni Jihadists are the ones that are their geopolitical allies. It's a hard thing to sell. But already, you don't see any US Christians giving a f*** about Middle East Christians being persecuting or massacred by the Jihadists, so that shouldn't be any problem. The US Christians support Israel above anyone else.

Pahli
02-26-2015, 12:20 PM
Iraqis should take revenge and blow up their shitty mosques

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 12:48 PM
Iraq was the center of science and culture before.

The Anglo American invasion destroyed the country after 2003. The hardest hit was the northwest and western regions. The Anglo American forces have committed numerous massacres in the western regions and also did destroy some historical artifacts as well. This because the Anglo American forces were not welcomed at all in the Syrian Desert regions, where resistance was common starting from teens to the elderly. Iraq was the most developed Arab nation and had a lot of bright minds which explained its self efficiency, best hospitals, universities and everything, and that went to hell.

Pahli
02-26-2015, 12:52 PM
The Anglo American invasion destroyed the country after 2003. The hardest hit was the northwest and western regions. The Anglo American forces have committed numerous massacres in the western regions and also did destroy some historical artifacts as well. This because the Anglo American forces were not welcomed at all in the Syrian Desert regions, where resistance was common starting from teens to the elderly. Iraq was the most developed Arab nation and had a lot of bright minds which explained its self efficiency, best hospitals, universities and everything, and that went to hell.

Pre-ba'athist Iraq was a good place to live in

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 01:10 PM
Pre-ba'athist Iraq was a good place to live in

Yes, this is true the problem with the Baathists was the war with Iran, which was a mistake but Iran has always harassed Iraq, it has agenda to expand in the Arab regions. The biggest mistake was the war with Kuwait, which began the gulf war and this was what eroded Iraq slowly through the sanctions. The monarchy time was one of the best, but 2003 was devastated. Most of the tribes in the west favor the return of monarchy, they were not republicans, this attitude is quite common. The voting pattern shows that western Iraq always vote for secular parties well good number of Shias vote for religious parties. It is not strange to find pics of king Abdullah ii and his wife among Iraqi and Syrian Bedouins. The latter always felt close to Jordan. Since in Syria Baathism has marginalized them, they look to Jordan where they see their kin having rulership and self determination. Baathism is responsible in many ways for the mayhem we see in Iraq and Syria.

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 01:18 PM
Seriously do these cave dwellers, have the ability to build anything,, at all ?

It's always kill, destroy, rape....... with these ugly looking bearded neanderthalls, i fully support use of chemical weapons in this case against these creatures.

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 01:24 PM
Seriously do these cave dwellers, have the ability to build anything,, at all ?

It's always kill, destroy, rape....... with these ugly looking bearded neanderthalls, i fully support use of chemical weapons in this case against these creatures.

They are nothing but destroyers. If the monarchy stayed all of this would not happened. The republicans were bad start though with the Baathist it brought problems to the nation as we see in other nations having that ideology .

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 01:29 PM
Yes, this is true the problem with the Baathists was the war with Iran, which was a mistake but Iran has always harassed Iraq, it has agenda to expand in the Arab regions. The biggest mistake was the war with Kuwait, which began the gulf war and this was what eroded Iraq slowly through the sanctions. The monarchy time was one of the best, but 2003 was devastated. Most of the tribes in the west favor the return of monarchy, they were not republicans, this attitude is quite common. The voting pattern shows that western Iraq always vote for secular parties well good number of Shias vote for religious parties. It is not strange to find pics of king Abdullah ii and his wife among Iraqi and Syrian Bedouins. The latter always felt close to Jordan. Since in Syria Baathism has marginalized them, they look to Jordan where they see their kin having rulership and self determination. Baathism is responsible in many ways for the mayhem we see in Iraq and Syria.

Fuck these US/Isreali bootlicking monarchies such as King Abdullah and his jewish mother.

As Much as I hate saddam, as he have jailed and killed family members of mine, the man still had more honour and bravery than that rat Abdullah II, and these various other pathetic gulf ruling dinosaurs.

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 01:39 PM
Fuck these US/Isreali bootlicking monarchies such as King Abdullah and his jewish mother.

As Much as I hate saddam, as he have jailed and killed family members of mine, the man still had more honour and bravery than that rat Abdullah II, and these various other pathetic gulf ruling dinosaurs.

The monarchy was better in Iraq. He is looked up to because he has done well for his nation .King Abdullah Ii is far more honourable than Maliki that's for sure. Mot all gulf monarchs are bad. Sheikh Zayed was a. good idea with a true Arabian heart and did a lot for Iraqis and other Arabs . If the monarchies are bad like you say why most Iraqi Bedouins in the west want them back or are sympathetic to them.

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 01:57 PM
The monarchy was better in Iraq. He is looked up to because he has done well for his nation .King Abdullah Ii is far more honourable than Maliki that's for sure. Mot all gulf monarchs are bad. Sheikh Zayed was a. good idea with a true Arabian heart and did a lot for Iraqis and other Arabs . If the monarchies are bad like you say why most Iraqi Bedouins in the west want them back or are sympathetic to them.

Iraqi bedouins are a minority, so their loyality to some corrupt British/American/Zionist installed father-son monarchies, can't be forced on the rest of us. Iraq is a 5000 year old civilization, damned if it will be bedouins that gets saying who's to rule Iraq., speaking of "Maliki" that fucker should be charged with high treason and executed, but I highly doubt Jewbdullah II of Jordan is more honourable than Al-Maliki. The loyality of bedouins in west iraq is something that can be bought and sold to the highest bidder.....

Empecinado
02-26-2015, 02:02 PM
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StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 03:03 PM
Iraqi bedouins are a minority, so their loyality to some corrupt British/American/Zionist installed father-son monarchies, can't be forced on the rest of us. Iraq is a 5000 year old civilization, damned if it will be bedouins that gets saying who's to rule Iraq., speaking of "Maliki" that fucker should be charged with high treason and executed, but I highly doubt Jewbdullah II of Jordan is more honourable than Al-Maliki. The loyality of bedouins in west iraq is something that can be bought and sold to the highest bidder.....

We are not a minority, most Iraqis are of Bedouin origins but sadly many of them sold out their identity. We the Bedouins in western Iraq still have a strong identity of who we are. It was the Bedouins who resisted the Anglo-American invasion the most and paid the price the most. Stop insulting the monarchy, Iraq was much better of under it then the republicans. There are many honourable people with the Hashmite clan, king Abdullah II helped developing his nation, Maliki Balkanized his nation, compare Amman to Baghdad. The Iraqi Bedouins never sold to anyone they have always fought against occupiers and invasions. Why do you think even Bedouins in tents were attacked by the Anglo American forces, because they knew the Bedouin spirit. The Bedouin spirit can't not be broken and they tried. If anyone is guardian of Iraq and it's nationhood it's them.

Alchemysta
02-26-2015, 03:04 PM
ISIS american thing

Incal
02-26-2015, 03:25 PM
ISIS american thing

The only post where you make sense.

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 03:26 PM
We are not a minority, most Iraqis are of Bedouin origins but sadly many of them sold out their identity. We the Bedouins in western Iraq still have a strong identity of who we are. It was the Bedouins who resisted the Anglo-American invasion the most and paid the price the most. Stop insulting the monarchy, Iraq was much better of under it then the republicans. There are many honourable people with the Hashmite clan, king Abdullah II helped developing his nation, Maliki Balkanized his nation, compare Amman to Baghdad. The Iraqi Bedouins never sold to anyone they have always fought against occupiers and invasions. Why do you think even Bedouins in tents were attacked by the Anglo American forces, because they knew the Bedouin spirit. The Bedouin spirit can't not be broken and they tried. If anyone is guardian of Iraq and it's nationhood it's them.

LOOOOOOOOOOL, yeah that's why Saddams army, collapesd in the matter of 2 weeks infront of the Americans, and the last place thet kept on fighting the US, was UM Qasr, in Basrah, the western iraqi bedouins threw out their Olive-green coloured ba'thists uniforms, and wore dishdasha's (Bedouin dress), Just in time, to be bought by the Americans later on, under the banner of "Sahawat", and now they're begging for american intervention against ISIS.

Please don't get me started with bedouins and their obediance to the "Anglo-Americans", after-all it was Abdul-Aziz Al-Suood that brought them into the region, to fight the Othoman empire, and it was good-times between bedouins and the "Anglo-Americans"

Kabul
02-26-2015, 03:36 PM
This is why Western Countries Need To Take ALL Ancient Artifacts From Islamic Countries For safe-keeping

It's their artifacts, their history, they can do what they want with them, they don't belong in the hands of the West. You want to steal more things away from middle Eastern countries that aren't yours, Jew? Oil and money wasn't enough for you?

denz
02-26-2015, 04:09 PM
It's their artifacts, their history, they can do what they want with them, they don't belong in the hands of the West. You want to steal more things away from middle Eastern countries that aren't yours, Jew? Oil and money wasn't enough for you?

In fact, if there are more dishonored who are ready to give what they have, then frankly, more easy to take. Easy peasy lemon squeezy !

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 04:31 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOL, yeah that's why Saddams army, collapesd in the matter of 2 weeks infront of the Americans, and the last place thet kept on fighting the US, was UM Qasr, in Basrah, the western iraqi bedouins threw out their Olive-green coloured ba'thists uniforms, and wore dishdasha's (Bedouin dress), Just in time, to be bought by the Americans later on, under the banner of "Sahawat", and now they're begging for american intervention against ISIS.

Please don't get me started with bedouins and their obediance to the "Anglo-Americans", after-all it was Abdul-Aziz Al-Suood that brought them into the region, to fight the Othoman empire, and it was good-times between bedouins and the "Anglo-Americans"

Nonsense is this why Fallujah was the last to fall and suffered a massacre because of this. Is this why they hard time go through dominated Bedouin areas of Nineveh, south of the province. The Anglo American forces were not welcomed any of the Bedouin areas as it was made clear. Why is Al Rutbuh, Fallujah and Makerdeep that suffered the most because they never welcomed them. We are talking about Iraqi Bedouins not the the ones in Arabia as it's a different subject. The Iraqi army collapsed because of poor leadership, outdated technology and fractured along side different ethnosectarian elements not to mention the Bedouins were a small segment of the army.

Kamal900
02-26-2015, 04:37 PM
We are not a minority, most Iraqis are of Bedouin origins but sadly many of them sold out their identity. We the Bedouins in western Iraq still have a strong identity of who we are. It was the Bedouins who resisted the Anglo-American invasion the most and paid the price the most. Stop insulting the monarchy, Iraq was much better of under it then the republicans. There are many honourable people with the Hashmite clan, king Abdullah II helped developing his nation, Maliki Balkanized his nation, compare Amman to Baghdad. The Iraqi Bedouins never sold to anyone they have always fought against occupiers and invasions. Why do you think even Bedouins in tents were attacked by the Anglo American forces, because they knew the Bedouin spirit. The Bedouin spirit can't not be broken and they tried. If anyone is guardian of Iraq and it's nationhood it's them.

Do you really like my people? Why are you praising the same people who sold my people's land to the British for the Zionists(the Hashemites and Al-Saud), and to this day they discriminate my people in Jordan as well. Would you be so kind to stop being so very bedouincentric, please? Bedouins, like other peoples in the world, don't share the same mindset, and there are those who are willing to help the occupiers and the English against all of the MENA people for their own selfish interests.

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 04:50 PM
Nonsense is this why Fallujah was the last to fall and suffered a massacre because of this. Is this why they hard time go through dominated Bedouin areas of Nineveh, south of the province. The Anglo American forces were not welcomed any of the Bedouin areas as it was made clear. Why is Al Rutbuh, Fallujah and Makerdeep that suffered the most because they never welcomed them. We are talking about Iraqi Bedouins not the the ones in Arabia as it's a different subject. The Iraqi army collapsed because of poor leadership, outdated technology and fractured along side different ethnosectarian elements not to mention the Bedouins were a small segment of the army.

Fallujah is a Shit-hole, litterly the town has been reduced to rubbles, no infastructure, no clean water, no sewage.... there is nothing left in Fallujah, worthy of fighting for. Bedouins are back-stabbing cowards, that's what they'll ever be, they we're the ones who sold the land of palestine, for a piece of throne, and they're willing to burn the whole region, just so they can stay in power.

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 04:51 PM
Do you really like my people? Why are you praising the same people who sold my people's land to the British for the Zionists(the Hashemites and Al-Saud), and to this day they discriminate my people in Jordan as well. Would you be so kind to stop being so very bedouincentric, please? Bedouins, like other peoples in the world, don't share the same mindset, and there are those who are willing to help the occupiers and the English against all of the MENA people for their own selfish interests.

I swear I despise those hashemites & Al-Saud, more than anything else.... a bunch of betraying bastards, that sold Palestine, PALESTINE, a land people fought and spelled blood for to keep, for the price of ruling, and stealing a lands ressources. Truly these are enemies of arabs.

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 04:55 PM
Do you really like my people? Why are you praising the same people who sold my people's land to the British for the Zionists(the Hashemites and Al-Saud), and to this day they discriminate my people in Jordan as well. Would you be so kind to stop being so very bedouincentric, please? Bedouins, like other peoples in the world, don't share the same mindset, and there are those who are willing to help the occupiers and the English against all of the MENA people for their own selfish interests.

Yes I like Palestinians and we protected them in Iraq and had equal rights. I praise the Hashmite branch of Iraq because they were good rulers for the most part. The Jordanian branch has some issues but in time it will change and so is the discrimination, I never praised the Al Sauds at all, but sheikh Zayed from the Al Nayhan family and has true Arabian heart, he gave many of my people citizenship and safety. All the rulers of Iraq in 2003 were sectarians and have helped decimate my people with the Anglo American invasion, the Jordanians took us in for refuge, and this is true of Emiratis to. That said there are many scum among many people and even monarchies but there are good people among them.

Armenian Bishop
02-26-2015, 04:58 PM
The US Media just needs to dupe the US Christians into believing that the Sunni Jihadists are the ones that are their geopolitical allies. It's a hard thing to sell. But already, you don't see any US Christians giving a f*** about Middle East Christians being persecuting or massacred by the Jihadists, so that shouldn't be any problem. The US Christians support Israel above anyone else.

That seems to be true! US Christian Groups, especially US Christian Protestants, never seemed to give a darn about Middle Eastern and North African (MENA) Christians, or for that matter Armenian Christians (whom can potentially be classified as Middle Eastern Christians). Is that really something new?

There are however some exceptions. For example: Christian based charity groups have the integrity of character to give them the fortitude to help MENA Christians. The same is true with the Red Cross.

Kamal900
02-26-2015, 05:00 PM
I swear I despise those hashemites & Al-Saud, more than anything else.... a bunch of betraying bastards, that sold Palestine, PALESTINE, a land people fought and spelled blood for to keep, for the price of ruling, and stealing a lands ressources. Truly these are enemies of arabs.

Thank you. At least you understand me.

Kamal900
02-26-2015, 05:04 PM
Yes I like Palestinians and we protected them in Iraq and had equal rights. I praise the Hashmite branch of Iraq because they were good rulers for the most part. The Jordanian branch has some issues but in time it will change and so is the discrimination, I never praised the Al Sauds at all, but sheikh Zayed from the Al Nayhan family and has true Arabian heart, he gave many of my people citizenship and safety. All the rulers of Iraq in 2003 were sectarians and have helped decimate my people with the Anglo American invasion, the Jordanians took us in for refuge, and this is true of Emiratis to. That said there are many scum among many people and even monarchies but there are good people among them.

You don't seem to mind with the hashemites when they betrayed the Ottoman empire, helped the British to steal my people's land, and made us all refugees in the middle east and etc. You seem to like the Zionists and the British for their support for these flee-ridden, desert nomads from Arabia who betrayed the whole Arab world just for them to be rulers in nations that the British and the western world established. It was the Iraqis, not the Bedouins, who helped and protected my people while the Hashemites betrayed and keep treating my people like dirt without any shame. Nebuchannezar seem to understand me more so than you do.

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 05:05 PM
Fallujah is a Shit-hole, litterly the town has been reduced to rubbles, no infastructure, no clean water, no sewage.... there is nothing left in Fallujah, worthy of fighting for. Bedouins are back-stabbing cowards, that's what they'll ever be, they we're the ones who sold the land of palestine, for a piece of throne, and they're willing to burn the whole region, just so they can stay in power.

Fallujah was a well of city before the Anglo American forces devastated it. My point still stand it was one of the last areas to fall because of heavy resistance. None sense we never sold anything, if you earn Bedouin loyalty there is no back stapping, the only back stapping occurs among Bedouins is when they are mistreated. I am half Bedouin through my maternal line but I value that lineage and blood. Did u not claim Bedouin origins yourself, so why you are making these comments? I am half and maternal mind you and yet value it why you don't do the same?

Kamal900
02-26-2015, 05:14 PM
That seems to be true! US Christian Groups, especially US Christian Protestants, never seemed to give a darn about Middle Eastern and North African (MENA) Christians, or for that matter Armenian Christians (whom can potentially be classified as Middle Eastern Christians). Is that really something new?

There are however some exceptions. For example: Christian based charity groups have the integrity of character to give them the fortitude to help MENA Christians. The same is true with the Red Cross.

Well, the copts and other MENA christians here in the UAE are living just fine, the same can be said about Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait and Qatar.

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 05:17 PM
You don't seem to mind with the hashemites when they betrayed the Ottoman empire, helped the British to steal my people's land, and made us all refugees in the middle east and etc. You seem to like the Zionists and the British for their support for these flee-ridden, desert nomads from Arabia who betrayed the whole Arab world just for them to be rulers in nations that the British and the western world established. It was the Iraqis, not the Bedouins, who helped and protected my people while the Hashemites betrayed and keep treating my people like dirt without any shame. Nebuchannezar seem to understand me more so than you do.

I have said the British and the Americans , and in general European colonizer a have wrecked the Middle East. I said the Palestinians are the last victim of European colonization. I despise their betrayal of Palestine. Iraqis are of Bedouin stock and it was specifically the western Iraqi Bedpuins who did a lot toward the Palestinians. I would rather have the Palestinians than the non Arab minorities and this should tell you where I stand. Stop insulting Arabians , if you insult the hashmitesits all fine but not the Arabians. I still maintain that sheikh Zayed is a good guy since he helped my people a lot.

Kamal900
02-26-2015, 05:22 PM
I have said the British and the Americans , and in general European colonizer a have wrecked the Middle East. I said the Palestinians are the last victim of European colonization. I despise their betrayal of Palestine. Iraqis are of Bedouin stock and it was specifically the western Iraqi Bedpuins who did a lot toward the Palestinians. I would rather have the Palestinians than the non Arab minorities and this should tell you where I stand. Stop insulting Arabians , if you insult the hashmitesits all fine but not the Arabians. I still maintain that sheikh Zayed is a good guy since he helped my people a lot.

I never insulted Arabians generally, just the Hashemites and the Al-Saud that were lead by the dog, Faisal, that i despise a lot. Your the one who keeps praising and tearing to scum like Abdullah and the monarchy in Saudi Arabia and etc simply because they helped the British against the Turks, and gave Palestine as a gift to the British. Stop putting all the blame on the Europeans when you know that the Hashemites and other Bedouins that helped them are just as guilty as they are.

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 05:35 PM
I never insulted Arabians generally, just the Hashemites and the Al-Saud that were lead by the dog, Faisal, that i despise a lot. Your the one who keeps praising and tearing to scum like Abdullah and the monarchy in Saudi Arabia and etc simply because they helped the British against the Turks, and gave Palestine as a gift to the British. Stop putting all the blame on the Europeans when you know that the Hashemites and other Bedouins that helped them are just as guilty as they are.

I never praised the Al Sauds. However i did say the Hashmite of Iraq ruled the area better than the republicans and certainly far better than the sectarians who have ruled Iraq in 2003 and decimated my people, and there was no sympathy form anyone. The Jordanians took us as refuges and so did the UAE which eve gave us citizenship. Sure they are responsible, the Hashmites, the Sauds but they are like children being guided by their parent ie America and Britain. Britain was had already promised Palestine away in 1917, most Arabs and especially true Bedouins would have never entrained this if they knew. Many Palestinians who are of Bedouin origins suffered to. All I said was king Abdullah II of Jordan is far better than Maliki, it's not tearing up or praising him it's a fact. Maliki ruined his nation. Try to live in post 2003 Iraq and Jordan and see the difference. The UAE and it's rulers deserve praise for what they have done for their people and kinsmen, the Al Makhtums, the Al Nayhan, Al Numai, and Al Qaassim.

Kamal900
02-26-2015, 05:43 PM
I never praised the Al Sauds. However i did say the Hashmite of Iraq ruled the area better than the republicans and certainly far better than the sectarians who have ruled Iraq in 2003 and decimated my people, and there was no sympathy form anyone. The Jordanians took us as refuges and so did the UAE which eve gave us citizenship. Sure they are responsible, the Hashmites, the Sauds but they are like children being guided by their parent ie America and Britain. Britain was had already promised Palestine away in 1917, most Arabs and especially true Bedouins would have never entrained this. Many Palestinians who are of Bedouin origins suffered to. All I said was king Abdullah II of Jordan is far better than Maliki, it's not tearing up or praising him it's a fact. Maliki ruined his nation. Try to live in post 2003 Iraq and Jordan and see the difference. The UAE and it's rulers deserve praise for what they have done for their people and kinsmen, the Al Makhtums, the Al Nayhan, Al Numai, and Al Qaassim.

The British promised Palestine the Zionist in the declaration of Balfour in 1917,and the hashemites and the Bedouins that worked with them were completely happy about that in creating a nation from the blood of Palestinians and others. Why do you keep jumping to the UAE rulers who i have nothing against? I was talking specifically about the Bedouins and the hashemites that worked for the British and the Zionists in selling off Palestine, helping America and the western world with military and economic support against Iraq and etc. The hashemites and the Saud aren't children, more like puppets and partners to America and Britiain. I guess the article about Jordanian Bedouins wanting to kick us out of Jordan was true after all :mad:

What did we ever do to your kind to deserve this treatment?

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 05:55 PM
The British promised Palestine the Zionist in the declaration of Balfour in 1917,and the hashemites and the Bedouins that worked with them were completely happy about that in creating a nation from the blood of Palestinians and others. Why do you keep jumping to the UAE rulers who i have nothing against? I was talking specifically about the Bedouins and the hashemites that worked for the British and the Zionists in selling off Palestine, helping America and the western world with military and economic support against Iraq and etc. The hashemites and the Saud aren't children, more like puppets and partners to America and Britiain. I guess the article about Jordanian Bedouins wanting to kick us out of Jordan was true after all :mad:

What did we ever do to your kind to deserve this treatment?

I agree with the first part, but you are generalizing all Bedouins. You have to understand it was small segment of Bedouins who aided the Hashmites, and second the reason why some Bedouins are shifting to them is due to severe mistreatment in those regions.

You said I praised the Al Sauds but never have though I did praise sheikh Zayed one of the rulers of the UAE. Well I used that as analogy but many of there followers did not know. Btw when the name Balfour was mentioned Iraqis use to spit at the name.

That article is false in many ways. There has never been violence and the privileges that the Bedouins enjoy at the expense of the Palestinians have been greatly reduced.

Nothing just victims of geopolitical imperialism just like my people are. Do we deserve what happened to us?

Queen B
02-26-2015, 07:28 PM
I can't tell you how disgust I am this moment over the news. I can't believe it !
These disgusting motherfuckers are destroying history, are distroying important things given to humanity and have no right to touch these artifacts.
Those lowlifes...They have offered NOTHING but bloodshell, hate, and backwardness...
Same happened with the other bunch of disgusting Muslims, Ottomans, with Parthenon.

Drawing-slim
02-26-2015, 07:38 PM
I can't tell you how disgust I am this moment over the news. I can't believe it !
These disgusting motherfuckers are destroying history, are distroying important things given to humanity and have no right to touch these artifacts.
Those lowlifes...They have offered NOTHING but bloodshell, hate, and backwardness...
Same happened with the other bunch of disgusting Muslims, Ottomans, with Parthenon.Calm down killer. Your orthodox church is no better.

Mani
02-26-2015, 08:06 PM
I feel absolutely devastated. Words cannot really describe these despicable creatures. They are enemies of humanity, civilization, and progress. The Buddhas of Bamiyan in Afghanistan were destroyed by people with a similar ideology.
They kill Iraqis, demolish places of worship, destroy cultural and historical artifacts, but the world is aware of Iraq's great legacy. It's heritage lies with its people and the many civilizations and empires that have undeniably made Iraq the cradle of western civilization.

StonyArabia
02-26-2015, 08:13 PM
Calm down killer. Your orthodox church is no better.

Well said the Orthodox have prosecuted pagan Arabs during the Byzantine empire, prosecuted pagan and Muslim Circassians with the Russian empire, and the recent prosecution of the Muslims Bosinaks and Kosovars. Oh they also prosecuted the Bogomils. Christians also destroyed other cultures, funny how they act their shit does not stink.

The Isis savages don't represent Islam, and Muslims all over the world condemned them.

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 09:23 PM
Well said the Orthodox have prosecuted pagan Arabs during the Byzantine empire, prosecuted pagan and Muslim Circassians with the Russian empire, and the recent prosecution of the Muslims Bosinaks and Kosovars. Oh they also prosecuted the Bogomils. Christians also destroyed other cultures, funny how they act their shit does not stink.

The Isis savages don't represent Islam, and Muslims all over the world condemned them.

Is this your king.... Jewbdullah II

http://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2015/02/06/003c5541-e542-4181-97ee-c305135ed2df/003c5541-e542-4181-97ee-c305135ed2df_16x9_600x338.jpg ?

Congrats, on the new red-sea/dead-sea canal treaty he signed with isreal....

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 09:24 PM
Well said the Orthodox have prosecuted pagan Arabs during the Byzantine empire, prosecuted pagan and Muslim Circassians with the Russian empire, and the recent prosecution of the Muslims Bosinaks and Kosovars. Oh they also prosecuted the Bogomils. Christians also destroyed other cultures, funny how they act their shit does not stink.

The Isis savages don't represent Islam, and Muslims all over the world condemned them.

Is this your king.... Jewbdullah II

http://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2015/02/06/003c5541-e542-4181-97ee-c305135ed2df/003c5541-e542-4181-97ee-c305135ed2df_16x9_600x338.jpg ?

Congrats, on the new red-sea/dead-sea canal treaty he signed with isreal....

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 09:39 PM
I feel absolutely devastated. Words cannot really describe these despicable creatures. They are enemies of humanity, civilization, and progress. The Buddhas of Bamiyan in Afghanistan were destroyed by people with a similar ideology.
They kill Iraqis, demolish places of worship, destroy cultural and historical artifacts, but the world is aware of Iraq's great legacy. It's heritage lies with its people and the many civilizations and empires that have undeniably made Iraq the cradle of western civilization.

I have come to a conclusion, that arab countries can only be ruled with an Iron Fist..... sadly that's the only way now, because past dictatorships have ruined everything, till there's nothing but these cancerous ideologies & people left, every bright mind has been chased off to live in a foregin country as an immigrant.

The arab countries needs another stalin....

Anglojew
02-26-2015, 10:31 PM
More from the mainstream media:


Ultra-radical Islamist militants in northern Iraq have destroyed a priceless collection of statues and sculptures from the ancient Assyrian era, inflicting what an archaeologist described as incalculable damage to a piece of shared human history.

A video published by Islamic State on Thursday showed men attacking the artifacts, some of them identified as antiquities from the 7th century BC, with sledgehammers and drills, saying they were symbols of idolatry.

"The Prophet ordered us to get rid of statues and relics, and his companions did the same when they conquered countries after him," an unidentified man said in the video.

The smashed articles appeared to come from an antiquities museum in Mosul, the northern city which was overrun by Islamic State last June, a former employee at the museum told Reuters.

The militants shoved stone statues off their plinths, shattering them on the floor, and one man applied an electric drill to a large winged bull. The video showed a large exhibition room strewn with dismembered statues, and Islamic songs played in the background.

Lamia al-Gailani, an Iraqi archaeologist and associate fellow at the London-based Institute of Archaeology, said the militants had wreaked untold damage. "It’s not only Iraq’s heritage: it’s the whole world’s," she said.

"They are priceless, unique. It's unbelievable. I don’t want to be Iraqi any more," she said, comparing the episode to the dynamiting of the Bamiyan Buddhas by the Afghan Taliban in 2001.

As well as Assyrian statues of winged bulls from the Mesopotamian cities of Nineveh and Nimrud, Gailani said the Islamic State hardliners appeared to have destroyed statues from Hatra, a Hellenistic-Parthian city in northern Iraq dating back around 2,000 years.

Eleanor Robson, professor of Ancient Near Eastern History at University College London, also said on Twitter that statues from Hatra and Nineveh had been wrecked, though she added that some objects shown in the video were modern replicas.

The director of UNESCO's Iraq office, Axel Plathe, would not comment on the content of the video, saying it has yet to be verified. But he described the damage to Iraq's heritage since Islamic State overran Mosul last year as an attempt "to destroy the identity of an entire people".

Plathe said UNESCO was working with Iraqi authorities and governments of neighboring countries to crack down on the smuggling of artifacts from areas under Islamic State control, and had alerted auction houses to be on the lookout for stolen items.

Islamic State espouses a fiercely purist school of Sunni Islam, deeming many other Muslims to be heretics. Its fighters have destroyed Shi'ite and Sufi religious sites and attacked churches and other shrines in the parts of Syria and Iraq under their control.

"Muslims, these relics you see behind me are idols that were worshipped other than God in the past centuries," the unidentified man in the Islamic State video said.

"What is known as Assyrians, Akkadians and others used to worship gods of rain, farming and war other than God and pay all sorts of tributes to them."

Last week, Islamic State released another video showing a pile of books in flames.

An employee of the Mosul museum said he feared these books were manuscripts from the library of endowments, although the library itself was still in tact last week.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/26/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-museum-idUSKBN0LU1CW20150226

Anglojew
02-26-2015, 10:47 PM
It's their artifacts, their history, they can do what they want with them, they don't belong in the hands of the West. You want to steal more things away from middle Eastern countries that aren't yours, Jew? Oil and money wasn't enough for you?

1. Many of them are foreigners

2. The artifacts belong to humanity

3. European civilisation descends from the Fertile crescent

Anglojew
02-26-2015, 10:49 PM
Is this your king.... Jewbdullah II

http://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2015/02/06/003c5541-e542-4181-97ee-c305135ed2df/003c5541-e542-4181-97ee-c305135ed2df_16x9_600x338.jpg ?

Congrats, on the new red-sea/dead-sea canal treaty he signed with isreal....

http://www.themiddleeastmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/foreign-minister-jordan-nasser-judeh4.jpg

Foreign Minister Nasser Judeh

Palestinians ARE Judeans

♥ Lily ♥
02-26-2015, 11:01 PM
Delusional religous nutters on the loose, all of them, they belong in an asylum for the insane when they speak and chant to their invisible friend 'allah'. They're so warped and a danger to society and behave like animals with rabies running around attacking people. Mad world. Insects are more sane than them.

Wadaad
02-26-2015, 11:07 PM
The United States destroyed (smashed to rubble) Iraq...20+ years on, and American war crimes remain unacknowedged and unpunished. Makes the Nazis at Nuremburg look particularly wretched and loserly.

Wadaad
02-26-2015, 11:09 PM
Well said the Orthodox have prosecuted pagan Arabs during the Byzantine empire, prosecuted pagan and Muslim Circassians with the Russian empire, and the recent prosecution of the Muslims Bosinaks and Kosovars. Oh they also prosecuted the Bogomils. Christians also destroyed other cultures, funny how they act their shit does not stink.

The Isis savages don't represent Islam, and Muslims all over the world condemned them.

And what did Prophet Mohammed PBUH do the pagan Qureish and other Arabs?

N1019
02-26-2015, 11:29 PM
The destruction of ancient artifacts pales in comparison to the human suffering in Iraq but it is still devastating.

Kabul
02-26-2015, 11:37 PM
1. Many of them are foreigners

Foreigners to where, foreigners to Iraq? How? They were born in Iraq and the majority of their ancestors come from Iraq, by your logic, we are all foreigners because humans came from Africa.


2. The artifacts belong to humanity

No, it belongs to the middle Easterners, the artefacts are from their land, it's part of their national heritage more than it is yours at this point. If someone came to my country to take our historical artefacts with the excuse that "it belongs to humanity", he would end up skinned alive.


3. European civilisation descends from the Fertile crescent

Slavs ancestrally come from the land of modern day Poland, but that doesn't mean that all Slavs can lay claim to Polish property.

Your pan-Europeanism is a charade and your ugly thieving and fascist-oriented attitude shows that you're no better than ISIS.

Nebuchadnezzar
02-26-2015, 11:38 PM
The destruction of ancient artifacts pales in comparison to the human suffering in Iraq but it is still devastating.

As I've mentioned in an earlier post, in a similar thread....

Kill the citizens of nation, and they're going to repopulate..... and will stand again

Destroy their cultural heritage & history, well than that's like killing their identity, executing their soul.... they will have nothing to build on, if that's destroy.

Case in point, Afghanistan, a country that haven't recovered since from this since the 1980s.

These islamofacist groups are enemies of humanity...... and they should be dealt with, with brute force.

Abeja
02-26-2015, 11:44 PM
If you have to blame someone for this obscene act, don't blame these mentally challenged inbred, blame who created them in order to pursue their political agenda in the middle-east, namely the USA and Israel.

Armenian Bishop
02-27-2015, 12:49 AM
Well, the copts and other MENA christians here in the UAE are living just fine, the same can be said about Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait and Qatar.

I didn't have the United Arab Emirate (UAE), Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, or Qatar in mind. I was more concerned about genocidal attacks against Christians from the Islamic State (IS), the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the Free Syrian Army (FSA), Turkey's Ottoman Empire legacy, and the Arab Spring usurpations in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA). My point was that some Christians in the USA haven't taken enough interest in their fellow Christians in the MENA, and that's more so with Protestant Christians; perhaps, I should've been talking about Americans in general, when I made that statement.

Kamal900
02-27-2015, 06:53 AM
I didn't have the United Arab Emirate (UAE), Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, or Qatar in mind. I was more concerned about genocidal attacks against Christians from the Islamic State (IS), the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the Free Syrian Army (FSA), Turkey's Ottoman Empire legacy, and the Arab Spring usurpations in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA). My point was that some Christians in the USA haven't taken enough interest in their fellow Christians in the MENA, and that's more so with Protestant Christians; perhaps, I should've been talking about Americans in general, when I made that statement.

There are around 50 million Evangelicals in America, and they are too busy pleasing the Zionist Jews than helping the Christians in the middle east and North Africa(Egypt).

Alchemysta
02-27-2015, 07:13 AM
Shame on them.

MissProvocateur
02-27-2015, 07:20 AM
How disgusting. My stomach turned as I watched this. I don't care what civilization these relics were from, seeing their destruction absolutely disgusts me. It's a shame to lose such precious fragments of history. ISIS is an organization of pigs that should absolutely be tracked down and destroyed, every single one of them. I have no mercy for anyone supporting their actions. Death to them all--The knowledge and culture lost to this disgusting act of terrorism is probably worth more than all the lives of those pigs anyway. They're vermin.

Dzihadovic
02-27-2015, 07:41 AM
It's funny(not really), whatever ancient kingdom/empire made those statues was probably more advanced in many ways than the criminal "state" that these savages are running.

Musso
02-27-2015, 08:18 AM
There are around 50 million Evangelicals in America, and they are too busy pleasing the Zionist Jews than helping the Christians in the middle east and North Africa(Egypt).

They are "Zionist Christians" a whole new breed. They probably support extermination of Christians in Middle East, because most are just brain-washed, mcdonalds eating rural folks, that can't point the Middle East on a map.

Kamal900
02-27-2015, 08:23 AM
They are "Zionist Christians" a whole new breed. They probably support extermination of Christians in Middle East, because most are just brain-washed, mcdonalds eating rural folks, that can't point the Middle East on a map.

Actually, most don't even know that there are Christians living in the middle east since most tend to think the middle east is Saudi Arabia, and believe me, 'Muricans were very shocked when i told them that i was an Arab since they also think ALL Arabs are Saudis living in caves or something. Here's Mark Weber explaining Christian Zionism very nicely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XttmsgtWpY

welp
02-27-2015, 08:25 AM
Unsubtle trollthread, 7 pages long.

Wadaad
02-27-2015, 08:27 AM
Everytime the West embarks on a middle eastern adventure, the first to suffer are the native Christians...just like the Crusaders who sacked constantinople quite treacherously back in 1204, weakening it and exposing thwm to the ISIS of their time, the Seljuq Turks. And contemporaneously, the US invasion of Iraq will lead to the final extinction of Christianity from the Middle East in general, and Iraq specifically.

Musso
02-27-2015, 08:31 AM
Actually, most don't even know that there are Christians living in the middle east since most tend to think the middle east is Saudi Arabia, and believe me, 'Muricans were very shocked when i told them that i was an Arab since they also think ALL Arabs are Saudis living in caves or something. Here's Mark Weber explaining Christian Zionism very nicely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XttmsgtWpY

I'm not surprised. Fox-News which is controlled by neo-cons, brainwashes them to believe what is convenient for the goals of the neo-cons and their Israeli allies. I don't even view them as Christians to be honest, they should be just allowed to change their religion to Judaism and be done with it.

Kamal900
02-27-2015, 08:39 AM
I'm not surprised. Fox-News which is controlled by neo-cons, brainwashes them to believe what is convenient for the goals of the neo-cons and their Israeli allies. I don't even view them as Christians to be honest, they should be just allowed to change their religion to Judaism and be done with it.

Actually, the neo-cons are Jewish who puts Israel's interests above America's interests, and they have a very close relationship with the Likud Party in Israel(Benjamin Satan-Yahoo was a key player in the Iraq war). Here's a documentary film about the neo-cons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4

Is it a coincidence that ISIS and FSA militant groups keep getting medical and military aid from Israel in the Golan Heights? What Israel want is to destroy Syria in order to create greater Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates, and many rabbis from the Shas party(which Ovedia Yussef was the head pf the party) demand it even.

Abeja
02-27-2015, 10:49 AM
I've just seen the video...

I was near to vomit... Nothing can justify the destruction of these precious and irreplaceable pieces of human art.
Turkey, Israel and the USA will be regarded as accountable for this destruction and will pay one day for all of this.

Guys, there's even the slightest hope that some of these artifacts may have been copies of originals kept in other places?

EyeOfTheTiger
02-27-2015, 11:14 AM
Iraq was smashed to pieces by the Jewish neo-cons along with their shabbos goyim who were responsible for destroying the nation and brought these terrorists to power in the first place.
youre so pathetic

Musso
02-27-2015, 11:15 AM
Actually, the neo-cons are Jewish who puts Israel's interests above America's interests, and they have a very close relationship with the Likud Party in Israel(Benjamin Satan-Yahoo was a key player in the Iraq war). Here's a documentary film about the neo-cons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4

Is it a coincidence that ISIS and FSA militant groups keep getting medical and military aid from Israel in the Golan Heights? What Israel want is to destroy Syria in order to create greater Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates, and many rabbis from the Shas party(which Ovedia Yussef was the head pf the party) demand it even.

i have noticed that ISIS rarely every mentions Israel, doesn't even plan to attack Israel,,,,given the scale of its movement, it's quite telling that it's not touching Israel at all, while killing Christians, Shias is all very heavily publicized and advocated. I seriously think Israel and ISIS have a non-aggression pact.

McCauley
02-27-2015, 11:42 AM
They are "Zionist Christians" a whole new breed. They probably support extermination of Christians in Middle East, because most are just brain-washed, mcdonalds eating rural folks, that can't point the Middle East on a map.


Man, shut the fuck up already, you don't know shit about what people think here. You'd prefer to insult random Americans than the people who who committed genocide on your ass, who you seem to be quite cordial with. Don't pretend to be some cunning geopolitical observer, you clown. You really don't know shit.

Morena
02-27-2015, 01:25 PM
The US Media just needs to dupe the US Christians into believing that the Sunni Jihadists are the ones that are their geopolitical allies. It's a hard thing to sell. But already, you don't see any US Christians giving a f*** about Middle East Christians being persecuting or massacred by the Jihadists, so that shouldn't be any problem. The US Christians support Israel above anyone else.

You are not even an American and you don't live here. Could you please stop making assumptions? Most Christians are very upset about what's going on there and want it to end. We hate ISIS because they kill Christians and others.

How many times do I have to tell you that the US government LIES to us and the Media is complicit in this. :picard1:

Musso
02-27-2015, 01:46 PM
Man, shut the fuck up already, you don't know shit about what people think here. You'd prefer to insult random Americans than the people who who committed genocide on your ass, who you seem to be quite cordial with. Don't pretend to be some cunning geopolitical observer, you clown. You really don't know shit.

I'm insulting the American Christians that stand up for Israel, rather than standing up for the Middle Eastern Christians that are dying every day. Because as a Christian, it is offensive what they do. I have seen videos in which Midwest Baptist Christians pray with Israeli flag in their hand. Furthermore, Republicans always talk about protecting Israel, but never about protecting the Christians like Assyrians that are being exterminated daily. Why? Because ME Christians are geopolitically not convenient.


You are not even an American and you don't live here. Could you please stop making assumptions? Most Christians are very upset about what's going on there and want it to end. We hate ISIS because they kill Christians and others.

How many times do I have to tell you that the US government LIES to us and the Media is complicit in this. :picard1:

I have lived in US for some time, so I have a pretty good idea. Most Americans are more anti-Iran, anti-Assad, and pro-Israel. Yeah ISIS is a "bad guy" but it is achieving the geopolitical goals of the neo-cons. I have heard very seldom when Americans express solidarity for Middle East Christians, yet solidarity for Israel is a must.

Anglojew
03-06-2015, 05:01 AM
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) group began bulldozing the ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud in Iraq on Thursday, the government said, in the jihadists' latest attack on the country's historical heritage.

ISIS "assaulted the historic city of Nimrud and bulldozed it with heavy vehicles," the tourism and antiquities ministry said on an official Facebook page.

An Iraqi antiquities official confirmed the news, saying the destruction began after noon prayers on Thursday and that trucks that may have been used to haul away artefacts had also been spotted at the site.

"Until now, we do not know to what extent it was destroyed," the official said on condition of anonymity.

Nimrud, which was founded in the 13th century BC, lies on the Tigris around 30 kilometres (18 miles) southeast of Mosul, Iraq's second city and the main hub of IS in the country.

The destruction at Nimrud, one of the jewels of the Assyrian era, came a week after the jihadist group released a video showing militants armed with sledgehammersand jackhammers smashing priceless ancient artefacts at the Mosul museum.

That attack sparked widespread consternation and alarm, with some archaeologists and heritage experts comparing it to the 2001 demolition of the Bamiyan Buddhas in Afghanistan by the Taliban.

In the jihadists' extreme interpretation of Islam, statues, idols and shrines are a corruption of the purity of the early Muslim faith and amount to recognising other objects of worship than God.

The group spearheaded a sweeping offensive last June that overran Nineveh province, where Mosul and Nimrud are located, and swept through much of Iraq's Sunni Arab heartland.

Iraqi security forces and allied fighters are battling to regain ground from the jihadists with backing from an international anti-ISIS coalition as well as neighbouring Iran.

But major operations to drive ISIS out of Nineveh are likely months away, leaving the province's irreplaceable historical sites at the mercy of militants who have no regard for Iraq's past.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/03/06/ISIS-bulldozed-ancient-Assyrian-city-of-Nimrud-Iraq-govt.html

zarzian
03-06-2015, 05:30 AM
i have noticed that ISIS rarely every mentions Israel, doesn't even plan to attack Israel,,,,given the scale of its movement, it's quite telling that it's not touching Israel at all, while killing Christians, Shias is all very heavily publicized and advocated. I seriously think Israel and ISIS have a non-aggression pact.

Finally someone else has noticed the biggest telltale of ISIS's being the tool of the Zionists/Anglo-American faction. What other proof do we need,HELLO!?!? ISIS is supposedly this extra fundamental jihadist Muslim group yet they turn their back,literally, on Israel, whome are supposedly Islams biggest enemy. Wake the fuck up people, realize this ISIS was put in power and are controlled by the west, they are doing the dirty work. So you have to ask, if this is the west's doing, what in god's name do they have planned for the region, because this shit is just gettin started.

Armenian Bishop
03-13-2015, 10:38 PM
American Evangelical and Zionist Christians do support Israel, and the weight of the Jewish lobby, for Biblical reasons, but it's in their nature to despise the deliberate destruction of museum artifacts, whether perpetrated by ISIS or anyone else. Deliberately smashing to rubble museum artifacts from the Middle East, North Africa, or elsewhere, is repugnant and unacceptable; our Biblical legacy is better understood with knowledge of these irreplaceable ancient museum pieces.

This doesn't excuse the myopic disinterest from American Evangelical Christians, and other Americans, in the fate of Middle Eastern and Armenian cultural heritage. American Christians tend to have a short sighted vision of Middle Eastern historical geography, which is confined to maps in the Bible. Biblical Maps tend to highlight the Levant, Mesopotamia, Egypt, and Southern Europe, everything beyond this area seems to fall of the map of their interest, as is the case with Armenia, despite Mt Ararat.