Classify Me, please

[Sahson]

Hey I joined the forum, because of this sub-forum that I stumbled across. Since my cousin mentioned that I looked portuguese, or european I have always been interested if whether or not that my ancestry came from somewhere else. was it before the Norman conquest? Before the Saxons. What if for all this time I thinking that my ancestry was from Denmark/Juteland (when the danish came over to the UK) wrong?

Since then I have been wanting to find out. Of course she was refering to my skin complexion, with it being a medium brown. I am aware it is more facial traits that give you an idea of your origin, so without further adieu, Here are several photos I have rummaged through that I have lying around on the internet.

Face on (kinda) (http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu120/SoliloCey/DSC_0118.jpg)

Slight angle 1 (http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu120/SoliloCey/20100202hiarcut.jpg)

Slight angle 2 (http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu120/SoliloCey/20100203NewCut2.jpg)

The next two photos are over 1 1/2 year old, the quality isn't good but are probably very helpful...

Face on (http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu120/SoliloCey/Hair/P4150569.jpg)

Profile (http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu120/SoliloCey/Hair/P4150567.jpg)

I'll try and get some better ones done later today, or tomorrow when I have time, hopefully these are good enough. I appreciate any suggestions of what my sub-class is. Thank you in advance, and thank you for viewing.

[Guapo]

I'm not sure but I know an Irish guy that resembles you alot.

[Equinox]

You look similar to a couple of lads I know. One is of British Isles and Prussian stock, the other is half Greek and half German.

I am no good at sub-racial classifications. However, to my eye you would appear a bit out of place walking down my street.

I have a few Australian acquaintances, in their eyes you would probably look like what they call a "Wog" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wog#Ethnic_slur).

That being said, I have also met Danes with pitch black hair and dark features such as yourself.

See what the others think. :thumb001:

[Sahson]

Thanks for the posts so far. I am a strong gut sense, someone is going to say British-Islander... I don't know why.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Wog" I am more familiar with the way it is used in Australia, which generally tends to refer Italian/Greek/Lebanese ethnicity. Or perhaps you just mean 'dark-skinned'.

I forgot about some other physical characteristics that could be helpful.

Height - 184cm
Weight - 74 kilos
Body shape - well, I do not think I am right... but perhaps a ectomorph (http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu120/SoliloCey/WDYWT/DSC_0117.jpg?t=1275535784) of some sort

My grandmother's maiden name is Jepson, which is apparently Welsh origin, Tomlinson being my mothers... To my knowledge Tomlinson is a variant of the surname Tommasson/Thomas which is Danish/German origin respectively.

[Guapo]

Dunno, you look like a typical eastern Brit to me.

[Stefan]

Predominately Atlanto-Mediterranid with some obvious Cromagno-Alpinoid and Dinaroid/Dinaromorphic tendencies. I think your look is one of those ambiguously common ones of Western Europe. If I were to guess your nationality and/or ancestry without knowing, I'd say French(specifically Western), North Italian, or Iberian(specifically from around the Pyrenees.)

[Sahson]

Thank you, Stefan. I noticed you said


with some obvious Cromagno-Alpinoid and Dinaroid/Dinaromorphic tendencies.

Can you share with me how you are able to determine this. I have been reading about sub-classes, and am trying to digest as much as possible, also is there any resources which I can access to learn more about these sub-classes. I haven't come across anything that good yet.

oh yeah, I did a quick profile, to the standards mention in the sticky...

Profile (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4665068191_9482cf9dcc_b.jpg)

Thanks.

[Wotan88]

For me you look completely British - I've seen few Irish people, who were looking similiar to you. :thumb001:

Also, I've seen some old nordicist propaganda picture from England, where there is a depiction of person very similiar to you which is named "Iberian race".

[Agrippa]

You seem to be Atlantomediterranid for the most part, if you would have a more "classic" nasal shape and slightly narrower face, you could be used as a quite typical example even.

Still I would count you as Atlantomediterranid - in detail you have Cromagnoid/Cromagno-Alpinoid influences which are hard to determine, because you have almost no traits other than the mentioned which are not Atlantomediterranid and even those could be individual variation too.

So only a look at your ancestors could clear that up, if you don't want to post pictures, probably you can describe your parents or siblings and the like.

I don't think you look particularly out of place in the North West, definitely not, but MORE COMMON are similar looks in Atlantid/Atlantomediterranid/Mediterranid core areas obviously. So especially in some English areas you might look more "Southern" to most...

[Neanderthal]

Atlanto Meditarranid + Brunn + Paleo-Atlantid.

[Sahson]

Thank you Agrippa.

Yes well the area I am originally from is South Yorkshire. When I was there last summer I noticed there were quite a lot of blonde people. Im sure this is because Juteland(Danish) people occupied this part of Britain.

Well unfortunately I am only able to provide you with the maternal side of the family.

Mother slight angle (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2762/4123519571_7ae31a169d_b.jpg)

Mother face on-ish (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2505/4124291278_d7e3b7737c_b.jpg)

Maternal Grandmother (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2798/4345762350_48c0643260_b.jpg)

Best I can provide...

[Agrippa]

Well, going after that I can just say that you got a lot of your traits from your mother, but there is no "split up", though the more Cromagnoid character especially of the nasal shape is clear.

[Sahson]

What do you mean by split up? I know not having any background on my paternal side does not help. All I can say from that is the ancestry name is Finney, which is of Irish origin. I am told I am a carbon copy, however I doubt that is the case. Having seen some 1 very bad negative, I can recall that the forehead was relatively rectangular, but thats as much as I can recall.

Anyways I managed to dig deep and find my Maternal Grandfather photos...

Grandfather face on (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs278.snc1/10530_1227074233419_1125938693_30704655_8218316_n. jpg)

grand father angle. (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs123.snc1/5296_142199942056_668642056_2905950_5341432_n.jpg)

[poiuytrewq0987]

I'm not sure but I know an Irish guy that resembles you alot.

Colin Farrell? :rofl:

[Agrippa]

What do you mean by split up?

You know, sometimes you have a mixture like Nordid-Alpinid and the ancestors show these two components in a rather pure form. That is extremely helpful to determine where "unclear traits" might come from, as in your case, since you are largely Atlantomediterranid obviously.

[Sahson]

Ah... fair enough. Sorry you lost me there for a second. half-cast I suppose.

So After having read several pages of Cromagnoids, I take it my Grandmother, and mother are Bruenn's then? or reduced Bruenn for my mother...

[manu]

http://www.pagine70.com/vmnews/archivio/strummer.jpg

[Treffie]

Thank you Agrippa.

Yes well the area I am originally from is South Yorkshire. When I was there last summer I noticed there were quite a lot of blonde people. Im sure this is because Juteland(Danish) people occupied this part of Britain.



The Jutes mainly settled in the south east of England.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Anglo_saxon_jute_575ad.jpg

Predominantly, it was the Saxons who came to settle in Yorkshire.

http://cd7.e2bn.net/e2bn/leas/c99/schools/cd7/website/images/anglo-saxon-Map.jpg

Perhaps you should get a DNA test with 23andme? (https://www.23andme.com/) This will give you a good idea which population you cluster with.

[Germanicus]

IT's uncanny...


http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n449/ruffusruffcut/P191109_162602.jpg

Here he is close cropped

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n449/ruffusruffcut/FrontView-1.jpg

His head measures 25"

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n449/ruffusruffcut/SideView-1.jpg

he could be related?

[Pallantides]

You look like identical to this guy on another forum who has a Irish father and Berber mother.





I don't think you look particularly out of place in the North West,

Even in western Norway this guy would be more exotic than Pia Tjelta.

[Agrippa]

IT's uncanny...


http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n449/ruffusruffcut/P191109_162602.jpg

Here he is close cropped

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n449/ruffusruffcut/FrontView-1.jpg

His head measures 25"

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n449/ruffusruffcut/SideView-1.jpg

he could be related?

That guy is more typically Atlanto-Nordid, somewhere between Atlantid + "Keltic Nordic" in my opinion. No significant Cromagnoid influences, just robust Aurignacoid / Nordid-Suedeuropid morphology somewhere between Nordid and Mediterranid. Only eye region and cheekbones slightly in one image.

But impressive head, quite progressive features.


You look like identical to this guy on another forum who has a Irish father and Berber mother.

Even in western Norway this guy would be more exotic than Pia Tjelta.

With North West I referred to Britain and Ireland primarily of course. And Pia Tjelta is "exotic" in another way.

[Pallantides]

Either way, he'd be rather exotic in Norway.


I believe we are included in the North West sphere despite being more North Central.:)

[Sahson]

You look like identical to this guy on another forum who has a Irish father and Berber mother.

Even in western Norway this guy would be more exotic than Pia Tjelta.

Are you talking about The person that Germanicus posted?

[Neanderthal]

That guy is more typically Atlanto-Nordid, somewhere between Atlantid + "Keltic Nordic" in my opinion. No significant Cromagnoid influences, just robust Aurignacoid / Nordid-Suedeuropid morphology somewhere between Nordid and Mediterranid. Only eye region and cheekbones slightly in one image.

But impressive head, quite progressive features.

Speaking about progressive features, what do you guys think I am? Brachy, Meso or Dolichocephalic? :rolleyes:

[Sahson]

Speaking about progressive features, what do you guys think I am? Brachy, Meso or Dolichocephalic? :rolleyes:

Meso or Dolic.

[Sahson]

Today I got the chance to look at some photos of my father. well yes after reviewing the bad photos we share the same shape, except his face is broader, he has wider forehead, and jaw. or maybe it is the other way round, His jaw is less narrow then mine. either its broader then mine. his nasal is also broader, and the nose tip is level. it tilts a little, but not as much as mine. actually after googling he has the nose similar to this exemplar - clicky (http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh212/europethread/UPvsMed/troe231.jpg)

His jaw is much wider then that atlanto-med. Could this mean that he is an atlanto-med with dinaric traits? or perhaps an upper paleolithic with atlanto-med?

[Neanderthal]

You should scan the pictures and post them, that way we could have a better idea of his classification and yours as well.

[Sahson]

You should scan the pictures and post them, that way we could have a better idea of his classification and yours as well.

I can not, my mother would not allow it. the photos are badly developed, and the facial features are barely visible. the resemblance is almost uncanny. we generally share same attributes, but his face is more broader, the nose is pretty much the same as seen in the atlanto-med exemplar I posted.

having a surname like Finney, he's of Irish descent...

oh yeah, and he is around 175cm since he is of similar height as my mother.

[Odin]

Paleo-Atlantid.

[Gunko]

To me you look Iberian