The Jewels of the EU: Mega Prostitution in Germany

[Trevis]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26261221


Mega-brothels: Has Germany become 'bordello of Europe'?


This is Paradise, in Stuttgart, Germany - one of the largest brothels in Europe.

And it's legal.

Built at a cost of more than 6m euros (£4.9m), and opened in 2008, it boasts a restaurant, a cinema, a spa and 31 private rooms for the hundreds of male customers it attracts each day.

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You feel safe and you have security. It's not like the street where you don't know what happens with a man”

Hannah, 22
Paradise worker
Germany legalised prostitution in 2002, creating an industry now thought to be worth 16bn euros a year.

By treating prostitution as a job like any other, the idea was to prise women away from the pimps that often run the sex trade.



But critics say Germany's liberal approach with its sex laws has spectacularly failed, normalising prostitution and turning the country into what they are now calling the "bordello of Europe".

The number of prostitutes in Germany is thought to have doubled to 400,000 over the last 20 years.

The market is now dominated by "mega-brothels", which offer sex on an almost industrial scale, often to tourists, many of them bussed in from abroad.

Many of the women working at Paradise Stuttgart are from Eastern European countries such as Romania and Bulgaria.




http://business.time.com/2013/06/18/germany-has-become-the-cut-rate-prostitution-capital-of-the-world/

Germany Has Become the Cut-Rate Prostitution Capital of the World



Prostitution became legal in Germany in 2002, and the open sex trade has taken off in the years since. There are reportedly around 3,000 red-light establishments in the country, and 500 brothels in Berlin alone. It’s been estimated that more than 1 million men pay for sex in Germany every day.

One of the classic arguments for legalizing prostitution is that recognizing and regulating the world’s oldest profession would improve the conditions of sex workers. Instead, recent reports paint legalized prostitution in Germany largely as a failure.

In May, Der Spiegel published a series of stories highlighting the atrocious conditions endured by prostitutes in Germany, some of whom say they arrived in the country against their will. Typically, the stories involve young women from Romania and Bulgaria who were unwittingly duped into coming to Germany, where they were forced to service dozens of men daily in flat-rate deals where customers can have all the sex they want for an allotted time period, starting at just €49 (around $65). The women say customers are known to take drugs to improve their sexual performance in order to get their money’s worth. Some women report getting paid a pittance and never being allowed to leave their brothels. During rare breaks from work, they share a room with other prostitutes, where there is a single bed and no other furniture.

[Lusos]

A pussy can be a gold mine It seems.
Good for them for contributing to the economy.

Prostitution It's only legal now,that Governments make many out of It.
Fuck that though.I'm pleased as it brings much more dignity to the Women.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Terrible thing, it is the highway to complete destruction of the country.

[Trevis]

A pussy can be a gold mine It seems.
Good for them for contributing to the economy.

Prostitution It's only legal now,that Governments make many out of It.
Fuck that though.I'm pleased as it brings much more dignity to the Women.

There are more than 400,000 prostitutes there and the number might be actually higher.

There is also a lot of trafficking of women. but also a lot that work as prostitute with their own desire. They mostly come from Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova. Ukraine, Poland, Slovakia and even Russia and german girls.

IMO it must be stopped.

[Mary]

There are more than 400,000 prostitutes there and the number might be actually higher.

There is also a lot of trafficking of women. but also a lot that work as prostitute with their own desire. They mostly come from Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova. Ukraine, Poland, Slovakia and even Russia and german girls.

IMO it must be stopped.

1) They are not East Euro women they are mostly Gypsies and some Tatars.

2) No one is being trafficked that's a myth created by weirdo women that want to be forced into prostitution themselves.

3) From what I've seen it seems pretty lame and caters mostly to older men.

4) Why should it be stopped?

[Lusos]

There are more than 400,000 prostitutes there and the number might be actually higher.

There is also a lot of trafficking of women. but also a lot that work as prostitute with their own desire. They mostly come from Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova. Ukraine, Poland, Slovakia and even Russia and german girls.

IMO it must be stopped.

I prefer It to be legal,as protects the Women.
Prostitution will never end as long as there Is Men and Women.

[Óttar]

Good for them! Legalize prostitution everywhere! Right after they legalize all drugs! :thumb001:

[LightHouse89]

Amazing the world can come into our lands and fuck our women if they have enough money. Then we can give pot and heroin to our children so they can be cool.

Thank god for the Marxist revolution during the 1960s. :rolleyes:

[Óttar]

Amazing the world can come into our lands and fuck our women if they have enough money. Then we can give pot and heroin to our children so they can be cool.

The women in the bordellos in Germany are mostly Eastern European women. Rich men could and would fuck them anyway regardless of whether it was legal or not. As for drugs, there was no such thing as drug legislation until the 20th century. :coffee:

[LightHouse89]

The women in the bordellos in Germany are mostly Eastern European women. Rich men could and would fuck them anyway regardless of whether it was legal or not. As for drugs, there was no such thing as drug legislation until the 20th century. :coffee:

Yes now our children are doing drugs here. They want to legalize more things. I say everything should be legal at this point. Why not?

[Mary]

Amazing the world can come into our lands and fuck our women if they have enough money. Then we can give pot and heroin to our children so they can be cool.

Thank god for the Marxist revolution during the 1960s. :rolleyes:

How is that bad? You make money of them.

Alcohol is the biggest and deadliest drug. You should start there if you want to ban drugs.


The women in the bordellos in Germany are mostly Eastern European women. Rich men could and would fuck them anyway regardless of whether it was legal or not. As for drugs, there was no such thing as drug legislation until the 20th century. :coffee:

They're mostly Gypsies. In the UK you have more Eastern Euro girls for some reason.


Yes now our children are doing drugs here. They want to legalize more things. I say everything should be legal at this point. Why not?

Most young people today can not afford drugs. Look at smoking for example how many young people do you know that can afford to smoke? Most young people drink alcohol because the government makes it legal, accessible, socially acceptable.

[BeerBaron]

It's not really a surprise given the general economic mess in former soviet bloc countries, and with the EU's freedom of movement ofc most would come from economically disadvantaged countries, especially ones that have a dubious reputation.

But yeah, they are mostly gypos. If you think gypo families dont force their girls to do these types of things you've never met a real gypsie, or seen gypo camps outside Bucharest. But a good portion aren't.

In Amsterdam its well known most prostitutes are eastern euro, and yes some of them are forcibly imported as sort of an "indentured servant" even though it is heavily regulated.

[Óttar]

Yes now our children are doing drugs here. They want to legalize more things. I say everything should be legal at this point. Why not?
You still haven't addressed my point of how drug legislation didn't exist until the 20th century. In Victorian London, there were several gallons of gin available for every man, woman and child. In Thomas DeQuincey's Confessions of an English Opium Eater he mentions going down to the chemist and getting a tincture of opium for a penny. In the letters written by members of my own family one states: "Down to my last three grains of opium, please send more..."

Don't you look to the Victorians as the foundation of your own morality? :rolleyes:

[Breedingvariety]

You still haven't addressed my point of how drug legislation didn't exist until the 20th century. In Victorian London, there were several gallons of gin available for every man, woman and child. In Thomas DeQuincey's Confessions of an English Opium Eater he mentions going down to the chemist and getting a tincture of opium for a penny. In the letters written by members of my own family one states: "Down to my last three grains of opium, please send more..."

Don't you look to the Victorians as the foundation of your own morality? :rolleyes:
Drugs were made illegal to make them more profitable.

[Trevis]

Mary stop speaking out of your ass.

There are no gypsies in the brothels of Germany, Netherlands or England, specifically germany since you mentioned it.

Of course that gypsies are present , but the heavy majority of the women are native Romanian, , Bulgarian,Moldovian. Ukrainian, polish, russian or whatever.

Just go through Berlin, Hamburg, Sttutgart , Munchen etc, all native white women.

It would be nice to be like that, but it is not.

[Mary]

Mary stop speaking out of your ass.

There are no gypsies in the brothels of Germany, Netherlands or England, specifically germany since you mentioned it.

Of course that gypsies are present , but the heavy majority of the women are native Romanian, , Bulgarian,Moldovian. Ukrainian, polish, russian or whatever.

Just go through Berlin, Hamburg, Sttutgart , Munchen etc, all native white women.

It would be nice to be like that, but it is not.

1) Go look at the girls on the homepage of Artemis the majority are Gypsies. I don't know what it's like in the Netherlands. But in the UK you have mostly East Euro girls I haven't seen any Gypsies.

2) No. Almost all of them are Gypsies and the rest are mostly Tatars. There are very few native East Euro girls in Germany.

3) I've looked at the girls on the homepages it's almost all Gypsies.

[Mary]

It's not really a surprise given the general economic mess in former soviet bloc countries, and with the EU's freedom of movement ofc most would come from economically disadvantaged countries, especially ones that have a dubious reputation.

But yeah, they are mostly gypos. If you think gypo families dont force their girls to do these types of things you've never met a real gypsie, or seen gypo camps outside Bucharest. But a good portion aren't.

In Amsterdam its well known most prostitutes are eastern euro, and yes some of them are forcibly imported as sort of an "indentured servant" even though it is heavily regulated.

1) Eastern Europe (except for Hungary and Ukraine) is doing better economically than Northern Europe. Lower debt levels, lower unemployment, no bankrupt banks, low deficit spending, current account deficits are relatively low, low costs for social spending.

2) The whole Eastern European hooker thing is a myth. Except for Hungary, Czech Republic, Ukraine there are no East Euro countries that produce a lot of hookers. Why? Because women marry in their early 20s. So there's only a small pool of women that can become hookers.

3) "It is well known" means I read about it in the paper/saw it on TV therefore it must be true. Go look for yourself on escort websites I bet most women are minorities.

4) I hope that the hooker industry develops in Eastern Europe so that you can make a lot of money. It think it's a great business.

[Excel]

What can I say? However I am not surprised because these societies are decaying. If a women leads a country it would spell destruction for that nation.

This why I don't believe in greatness, look at these so called developed countries; now selling their sisters and mothers openly as a commodity. Does Christianity endorse this?

Whatever happened to womens rights, seems to me that women are getting abused and at the same time taxed.

No good will come out of this, this will help to DESTROY the youth; so the government has failed to protect the decent common people.

So I wouldn't welcome Germany turning into Thailand.

[Mary]

What can I say? However I am not surprised because these societies are decaying. If a women leads a country it would spell destruction for that nation.

This why I don't believe in greatness, look at these so called developed countries; now selling their sisters and mothers openly as a commodity. Does Christianity endorse this?

Whatever happened to womens rights, seems to me that women are getting abused and at the same time taxed.

No good will come out of this, this will help to DESTROY the youth; so the government has failed to protect the decent common people.

So I wouldn't welcome Germany turning into Thailand.

So women should get a free ride just because they're someone's sister and mother? Do men get a free ride for being a father and brother? I think it's great that women are allowed to earn their keep in a positive way.

[Trevis]

1) Go look at the girls on the homepage of Artemis the majority are Gypsies. I don't know what it's like in the Netherlands. But in the UK you have mostly East Euro girls I haven't seen any Gypsies.

2) No. Almost all of them are Gypsies and the rest are mostly Tatars. There are very few native East Euro girls in Germany.

3) I've looked at the girls on the homepages it's almost all Gypsies.

I do not know what Artemis page you are talking about, or who the hell these Tartars are, but the heavy majority of prostitutes in Germany ( in Benelux and England this is already a fact) are native eastern european girls for our bad luck, being them romanian or slavic.

Just go and check the brothels in Berlin, Hamburg, Munchen , and you will see it yourself. No point of lying here. This is what the west has been offering for the last 80 years.

[Stears]

1) Eastern Europe (except for Hungary and Ukraine) is doing better economically than Northern Europe. Lower debt levels, lower unemployment, no bankrupt banks, low deficit spending, current account deficits are relatively low, low costs for social spending. 2) The whole Eastern European hooker thing is a myth. Except for Hungary, Czech Republic, Ukraine there are no East Euro countries that produce a lot of hookers. Why? Because women marry in their early 20s. So there's only a small pool of women that can become hookers. 3) "It is well known" means I read about it in the paper/saw it on TV therefore it must be true. Go look for yourself on escort websites I bet most women are minorities. 4) I hope that the hooker industry develops in Eastern Europe so that you can make a lot of money. It think it's a great business. Hungary CZ Poland are Central European countries by culture like Germany Switzerland and Austria. Eastern European means Orthodox, which is a traditionally a lower standard of life-style, infrastructure , culture, social and economic development in the history. Being East european mean also genetically and anthropologically less European.

[Óttar]

"Only butthurted clowns minuses my posts." :coffee:

[Mary]

I do not know what Artemis page you are talking about, or who the hell these Tartars are, but the heavy majority of prostitutes in Germany ( in Benelux and England this is already a fact) are native eastern european girls for our bad luck, being them romanian or slavic.

Just go and check the brothels in Berlin, Hamburg, Munchen , and you will see it yourself. No point of lying here. This is what the west has been offering for the last 80 years.

1) Look at the girls here, http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/girls/?langswitch_lang=en you can see that they're mostly Gypsies.

2) No. Most girls in Germany are Gypsies and Tatars. In the UK you have mostly native East Euro girls. That's because Gypsies prefer to work in brothels or on the street which is more common in Europe while East Euro girls prefer outcalls/incalls which is more common in the UK.

3) I have checked on the websites. Stop being in denial about fucking Gypsies.

[Mary]

Hungary CZ Poland are Central European countries by culture like Germany Switzerland and Austria. Eastern European means Orthodox, which is a traditionally a lower standard of life-style, infrastructure , culture, social and economic development in the history. Being East european mean also genetically and anthropologically less European.

1) No. Hungary, CZ, Poland are mong countries. They're a separate category. No they're not European they're Central Asian. Read Hitler's table talks.

2) Europeans originated in Eastern Europe on the Black Sea coast. Fail.

[Stears]

1) No. Hungary, CZ, Poland are mong countries. They're a separate category. No they're not European they're Central Asian. Read Hitler's table talks. 2) Europeans originated in Eastern Europe on the Black Sea coast. Fail. Population Genetics show different picture: Northern Germanic speaking countries (incl. Nort part of Germany too) are mobngrel people (with a lot of asian haplogroup markers Q and N1C1) and Eastern Slavic countries, especially your Russia:

See the ratio of Central Asian haplogroup „Q” and the other mongoloid haplogroup marker „N” (aka. N1C1) markers in the largest genetic database and CHART of European nations:
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

[Mary]

Population Genetics show different picture: Northern Germanic speaking countries (incl. Nort part of Germany too) are mobngrel people (with a lot of asian haplogroup markers Q and N1C1) and Eastern Slavic countries, especially your Russia:

See the ratio of Central Asian haplogroup „Q” and the other mongoloid haplogroup marker „N” (aka. N1C1) markers in the largest genetic database and CHART of European nations:
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Gene tests are not accurate enough to tell on mixed populations. You tell on looks + behaviour.

[LightHouse89]

How is that bad? You make money of them.

Alcohol is the biggest and deadliest drug. You should start there if you want to ban drugs.



They're mostly Gypsies. In the UK you have more Eastern Euro girls for some reason.



Most young people today can not afford drugs. Look at smoking for example how many young people do you know that can afford to smoke? Most young people drink alcohol because the government makes it legal, accessible, socially acceptable.

Fine with me if it were all banned there wouldnt be so many social problems in my society. America was great during the prohibition era.

[LightHouse89]

You still haven't addressed my point of how drug legislation didn't exist until the 20th century. In Victorian London, there were several gallons of gin available for every man, woman and child. In Thomas DeQuincey's Confessions of an English Opium Eater he mentions going down to the chemist and getting a tincture of opium for a penny. In the letters written by members of my own family one states: "Down to my last three grains of opium, please send more..."

Don't you look to the Victorians as the foundation of your own morality? :rolleyes:

Actually the Prohibition era america was good. Had only the Klan stepped up its fight much harder and actually killed most of the mob groups here it would have been much easier to uphold those laws.

The victorian era was okay. I mean the upper classes were not as degenerate as the lower classes. The lower classes as usual were the filth class so its no wonder they did what they wanted. It wasnt perfect but better than today.

[Stears]

Gene tests are not accurate enough to tell on mixed populations. You tell on looks + behaviour. What is the accurate? Hitler's 70 years old book? Hitler have only a secondary school graduation. Genetics is the only accurate factor about ppopulations. See russians and many northern germanic people. The mixture with mongoloids are undeniable (especially in your Russia, even in the european parts).

[Mary]

What is the accurate? Hitler's 70 years old book? Hitler have only a secondary school graduation. Genetics is the only accurate factor about ppopulations. See russians and many northern germanic people. The mixture with mongoloids are undeniable (especially in your Russia, even in the european parts).

Give up Mongol. It all comes down to looks and behaviour.

[Stears]

Give up Mongol. It all comes down to looks and behaviour. ALL genetic researches proved (Y DNA, mt.DNA and autosomal) that the population of the european part of Russia contain relatively high ratio of Mongoloid haplogroup markers. It is enough to travel to Russia and see the faces of average people. Central Europeans had no mongoloid DNA, Eastern Europeans like russians have relatively high ratio. Deal with it.

[ius semper]

human dignity is going to disappear soon I gues...

[Mary]

ALL genetic researches proved (Y DNA, mt.DNA and autosomal) that the population of the european part of Russia contain relatively high ratio of Mongoloid haplogroup markers. It is enough to travel to Russia and see the faces of average people. Central Europeans had no mongoloid DNA, Eastern Europeans like russians have relatively high ratio. Deal with it.

Then why bother with genetics and not just look at the faces?


human dignity is going to disappear soon I gues...

What's so dignified about not being a hooker? All women trade sex for resources anyway.

[Stears]

Then why bother with genetics and not just look at the faces?What's so dignified about not being a hooker? All women trade sex for resources anyway.That's why I said: it is enough to travel to Russia and watch the face of the people!

[Fear Fiain]

1) They are not East Euro women they are mostly Gypsies and some Tatars.


4) Why should it be stopped?


you answered your own question.
Germany for the Germans.

[Mary]

you answered your own question.
Germany for the Germans.

So you only want German hookers in Germany? Then leave the EU.

[Trevis]

1) Look at the girls here, http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/girls/?langswitch_lang=en you can see that they're mostly Gypsies.

2) No. Most girls in Germany are Gypsies and Tatars. In the UK you have mostly native East Euro girls. That's because Gypsies prefer to work in brothels or on the street which is more common in Europe while East Euro girls prefer outcalls/incalls which is more common in the UK.

3) I have checked on the websites. Stop being in denial about fucking Gypsies.

There is no evidence of what you are saying. Everyone can go and check german brothels and can see that the majority are white girls, mostly eastern european , but in berlin you can see english prostitutes also.

The site you posted has the majority white girls also.

[Mary]

There is no evidence of what you are saying. Everyone can go and check german brothels and can see that the majority are white girls, mostly eastern european , but in berlin you can see english prostitutes also.

The site you posted has the majority white girls also.

Stop trolling? Go to the websites and see for yourself. No there are practically no UK girls in Germany it wouldn't make sense because the prices are higher in the UK.

[Trevis]

Stop trolling? Go to the websites and see for yourself. No there are practically no UK girls in Germany it wouldn't make sense because the prices are higher in the UK.

Please shut the fuck up because you are a high class ignorant pretending to know stuff, when you clearly have no idea. Yes there are a lot of UK girls working as prostitutes in Berlin ( since i have lived there) and i saw also the websites and the heavy majority of girls were white.

[Mary]

Please shut the fuck up because you are a high class ignorant pretending to know stuff, when you clearly have no idea. Yes there are a lot of UK girls working as prostitutes in Berlin ( since i have lived there) and i saw also the websites and the heavy majority of girls were white.

Then post examples of UK girls working in Berlin and brothels where the majority of the girls are White. If it's as common as you say it shouldn't be a problem.

[zhaoyun]

In many ways this is more rational. It provides protection for sex workers, it generates revenue for the state, it probably reduces sexual frustration in the population, it provides a system in which one can better monitor STDs.

[Trevis]

Then post examples of UK girls working in Berlin and brothels where the majority of the girls are White. If it's as common as you say it shouldn't be a problem.

Are you saying to go and take pictures of them? Don't you think I have better things to do?


In many ways this is more rational. It provides protection for sex workers, it generates revenue for the state, it probably reduces sexual frustration in the population, it provides a system in which one can better monitor STDs.

I still do not agree my chines friend, but still the situation it is not as a good as you portrayed it here.

Thousands of these girls, mainly coming from eastern europe, are exploited by the ruthless mafia organizations such as Jewish Russian Mafia, Albanian Mafia or even Turkish Mafia...

[Rudel]

In many ways this is more rational. It provides protection for sex workers, it generates revenue for the state, it probably reduces sexual frustration in the population, it provides a system in which one can better monitor STDs.

And it also legitimises prostitution and the tourism that goes with it. More rational isn't always better. And for the state shouldn't be looking forward to thrive on vices.

From the article :

"It should not be about every country offering a different solution. Instead we should agree rules on a Europe-wide basis and then we wouldn't have sex tourism from one country to another."
No, we shouldn't. The solution isn't more continental laws that violate the sovereignty of the French, it's closing the borders back.


The change of the law in France, which will punish the buyers of sex
What a limb-dicked way of going about things. Round up the foreign whores and deport them rather than punishing Frenchmen.

[♥ Lily ♥]

I'm surprised as Germany has a very strong economy and education system and I think they have little poverty there. I don't understand this; unless people are addicted to drugs? Most of the prostitutes there are not German females though, but gold-digging or drug-addicted foreigners.

[Mary]

Are you saying to go and take pictures of them? Don't you think I have better things to do?

I'm saying link to a brothel/agency/independents that are from the UK and/or where the majority of the girls are White. It should only take you 5 minutes on google.



I still do not agree my chines friend, but still the situation it is not as a good as you portrayed it here.

Thousands of these girls, mainly coming from eastern europe, are exploited by the ruthless mafia organizations such as Jewish Russian Mafia, Albanian Mafia or even Turkish Mafia...

No that's propaganda from feminists. Most of the girls in Germany are Gypsies. Then you have various girls working through agencies in the higher price segment.

[Trevis]

I'm saying link to a brothel/agency/independents that are from the UK and/or where the majority of the girls are White. It should only take you 5 minutes on google.



No that's propaganda from feminists. Most of the girls in Germany are Gypsies. Then you have various girls working through agencies in the higher price segment.

Look i am tired of even having a discusion with you, because you are dumb and you want to project your insecurities on others.

Those girls did not belong to nay escort agency. I have met, and plenty of my friends a lot of english girls working in the borothels of berlin. I do not understand what bullshits are you requiring now?

No that is not propaganda? Propaganda from whom idiotic woman?????? It is a well known fact that most of the girls in the brothels of germany are eastern european or latin american. Have lived in Germany for some years and seen it, proven also by pictures in escort websites or brothels websites.

[Mary]

Those girls did not belong to nay escort agency. I have met, and plenty of my friends a lot of english girls working in the borothels of berlin. I do not understand what bullshits are you requiring now?

Which brothels were they working at?



No that is not propaganda? Propaganda from whom idiotic woman?????? It is a well known fact that most of the girls in the brothels of germany are eastern european or latin american. Have lived in Germany for some years and seen it, proven also by pictures in escort websites or brothels websites.

1) From the anti-prostitution crew. They're marketing the idea that women from Eastern Europe are forced to work in brothels which is total nonsense because women in Eastern Europe marry a lot earlier than women in the West, so there isn't a large pool of women available to begin with.

2) It doesn't matter if it's "well known" it's still not true.

3) Link to the pictures on the websites.

[Odin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUBQLPgQ2RA