Nordic poeple are inferior!

[Awesome124]

And South Europeans are superior!

I admit that Nordic people are very attractive, but we can't ignore the fact that South Europeans civilized them. Around 2000 years ago, when Europe was full of savages and hunters and gatherers, Greece had an advanced civilization. They had the best philosophers, scientists, and artists. Unfortunately, a few decades, Europe fell in the Dark Ages and the continent suffered from plagues, deaths, and diseases. In 1350s, Italian culture blossomed and slowly pulled itself into the Renaissance. All of Europe was so stunned by their accomplishments that they copied off of them...lol. During the Renaissance, Italians took Ancient Greek and Roman ideas and improved them greatly. Their arts, culture, science advanced greatly.

It took a while for north Europe to get out of the Middle Ages. In fact, they were never really civilized until recently (1500s). If it weren't for the South Europeans, North Europeans would still be living in the middle ages. So, that's why I think North European people have the beauty but South Europeans have the brains.

[Darth Revan]

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[jatt]

U Both R InferIoR

[Anima Libera]

u wot m8

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

And South Europeans are superior!

I admit that Nordic people are very attractive, but we can't ignore the fact that South Europeans civilized them. Around 2000 years ago, when Europe was full of savages and hunters and gatherers, Greece had an advanced civilization. They had the best philosophers, scientists, and artists. Unfortunately, a few decades, Europe fell in the Dark Ages and the continent suffered from plagues, deaths, and diseases. In 1350s, Italian culture blossomed and slowly pulled itself into the Renaissance. All of Europe was so stunned by their accomplishments that they copied off of them...lol. During the Renaissance, Italians took Ancient Greek and Roman ideas and improved them greatly. Their arts, culture, science advanced greatly.

It took a while for north Europe to get out of the Middle Ages. In fact, they were never really civilized until recently (1500s). If it weren't for the South Europeans, North Europeans would still be living in the middle ages. So, that's why I think North European people have the beauty but South Europeans have the brains.
The netherlands and flanders experienced a cultural renaissance by more or less the same time of the italian cities.

[StonyArabia]

This quite funny, Northern Europe developed on it's own. Britain was for example far ahead and still than most South European nations. Not to mention Finland worked hard for it's standard of living and did not have colonies to exploit others, and so on.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Forget living in the long-dead past as that's unhealthy and reminiscent of maggots clinging to a dead corpse, and evolve to the present day. Northern Europeans have the best economies in Europe today and are the ones bailing out the southern Europeans.

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu253/Tyranos/2-3.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EkE-tT29tY

[Awesome124]

The netherlands and flanders experienced a cultural renaissance by more or less the same time of the italian cities.

You are right....but they copied of Italy

[Awesome124]

Forget living in the long dead past as that's unhealthy and like a maggot clinging to a dead corpse and evolve to the present day. Northern Europeans have the best economies in Europe today and are the ones bailing out the southern Europeans.

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu253/Tyranos/2-3.jpg


Where are non European countries?

[Ctwentysevenj]

Yes there was Greece, then the Romans, which was the first significant empire in Europe which brought a lot of advanced civilisation to large parts of Europe and beyond and you had the Italian Renaissance. But in many many parts of central and northern Europe, advanced a lot at the time of the Italian Renaissance. North Europe pulled ahead with the Industrial revolution which started in the UK, in the early nineteenth century. Some of the smaller countries of Europe have some the most advance economies in the world and the highest standard of living, like Austria, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands and Switzerland. There are others, are primary Nordic or Germanic.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Where are non European countries?

Most of them were living living in caves or the trees. Actually some of them, non-Europeans, still live in the caves or up in the trees today.

[Sodium]

Huh?

[GMan]

By your logic/theory, Southern Europeans are inferior than Egyptians and peoples of Ancient Near East. Just google Sumer.

Again, your theory supports that your mighty Romans are inferior than ancient Persians, Indians, and Chinese.

Again, your theory supports that Eastern Europeans/Anatolians (according to Kurgan and Anatolian hypothesis) are superior than Southern Europeans. Because they're the first wave of Indo-European peoples and they brought languages to your Southern Europe.

This superiority/inferiority war between Mediterraneanists and Nordicists is awful. :picard2::picard1: Just like delusional Pan-Africanists. :picard1::picard2:

[♥ Lily ♥]

Icelandic people were in an economic crisis on a scale worse than the US for the size of their country and the scale of their problem. You know what they did a few years ago?
They had a peaceful revolution, had the courage and warrior strength to jail the bankers and their government, installed a new government, and 2 years later they now have one of the fastest growing economies in Europe.

We can look up to Iceland.... literally!

Iceland has won more gold medals than any other country in the world for the international strongest man competitions.

The Vikings were the first Europeans to discover North America and they had the worlds most advanced boats and swords.

The Finns built this... http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?158210-The-Worlds-Largest-Cruise-Ship-Ever-Built-In-Finland

Norway has hardly any poverty and is voted as the worlds most beautiful country and the best country to live in for the highest quality of life. Norway has a lot of oil and vast fjords. Danes are building the worlds longest tunnel under the sea.

Scandinavian nations are very productive and wealthy countries. The only problem is that immigrants want to go there to leech them for help.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t57hLOdQMgk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ1jIcJVu_4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAiARBkyaCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdTDbbSdXCE

[Samurai91]

All Europeans are inferior.... hiding behind racism to compensate for small courage, dont even have the balls to do anything but whine on the net like little bitches. The time of Europeans is ending, you will be bred out soon enough......

[♥ Lily ♥]

Nordic nations have small populations but they're achieving a lot in the present time and living moment with regards to their economies and modern day inventions.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Icelandic people were in an economic crisis on a scale worse than the US for the size of their country and the scale of their problem. You know what they did a few years ago?
They had a peaceful revolution, had the courage and warrior strength to jail the bankers and their government, installed a new government, and 2 years later they now have one of the fastest growing economies in Europe.

We can look up to Iceland.... literally!

Iceland has won more gold medals than any other country in the world for the international strongest man competitions.

The Vikings were the first Europeans to discover North America and they had the worlds most advanced boats and swords.

The Finns built this... http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?158210-The-Worlds-

Largest-Cruise-Ship-Ever-Built-In-Finland

Norway has hardly any poverty and is voted as the worlds most beautiful country and the best country to live in for the highest quality of life. Norway has a lot of oil and vast fjords. Danes are building the worlds longest tunnel under the sea.

Scandinavian nations are very productive and wealthy countries. The only problem is that immigrants want to go there to leech them for help.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t57hLOdQMgk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ1jIcJVu_4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAiARBkyaCo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdTDbbSdXCE


Yes you are correct English Rose, those Scandinavian countries are very advanced. They are also the top of the list when it come to standard of living and development. Along with those countries, other countries of similar size in terms of population like Austria, Belgium, Switzerland, Luxembourg and the Netherlands, are very much like the Scandinavian countries, prosperous and have advanced economies. Yes we know about the third world immigrants:(. Here what I posted before regarding Greece asking for war reparations from Germany:


I am just curious, not trolling, why every country of similar size to Greece in terms of population, say from Croatia and northwards in Europe, all have relative advanced economies, with a lot of manufacturing industries, many with notable manufactured products, but totally abscent in Greece. Just take Austria and Sweden have very well established industrial companies, many high tech and a very high standard of living. Greece only started electrifying their railways only about 15 years ago, relying on other Europeans to build this infrastructure, especially using Italian and German know how , but Austria and Sweden were one of the pioneers of electrifying railways in Europe, going back more than 100 years ago, with Italy, Germany, Hungary, Switzerland and France. Even Finland which only became independent after the first world war from Russia, has one of the most advanced economies around with only a population of 5 million, less than Greece, but with well known high tech companies like Nokia, also Finland have built the largest passenger ship in the world and has built the Super F-18 super hornets fighter under licence from Boeing. What Finland produces, Greece wouldn't able to achieve that for many years to come.

[Samurai91]

Civilisation goes against nature and survival of the fittest. That's why passive and civilised countries are being walked over by immigrants today. Vikings need to reclaim their proud warrior spirit.

Nordic nations have small populations but they're achieving a lot in the present time and living moment with regards to their economies and modern day inventions

Nordics are nothing..... vikings happened 1000 years ago and their DNA is all gone to other places. Thats like saying Italians are Romans, no one says that.

And btw, the english are one of the most inferior peoples of europe..... the Irishes, Scotts, and Welsh are superior to you

[Furnace]

Yes, stay away from us, we suck! No jobs, no nothing!

[♥ Lily ♥]

Nordics are nothing..... vikings happened 1000 years ago and their DNA is all gone to other places. Thats like saying Italians are Romans, no one says that.

And btw, the english are one of the most inferior peoples of europe..... the Irishes, Scotts, and Welsh are superior to you

Poor troll using an English invention of the world wide web just to troll. Nobody is that ignorant. Over 54% of all great modern inventions in the world come from Great Britain according to many people I've spoken to (some say it's higher,) and London is currently the capital of digital technology in Europe and the worlds first ever industrialised city, the first city to have metros and shopping malls, etc,.... and look at everything the English have given to the modern world, including in this present moment, such as the Skylon, Rolls Royce engines (finest in the world used for jumbo jets and on the Concorde, etc!) The list of inventions from Great Britain is very long compared to other European countries in the modern age. England invented nursing and hospitals, worlds first eye hospital, and plenty more. The Eurotunnel, Concorde, Thames Flood Barrier (most advanced in the world.) Sir Norman Foster invented the Gherkin intelligent skyscraper, and the worlds first wind-turbine skyscraper is in London, and the worlds tallest bridge in France was designed by Sir Norman Foster too. Evolution was discovered by Darwin, then we have Richard Dawkins and Stephen Hawking, Sir Isaac Newton (discovered gravity) and too much to mention.

[alb0zfinest]

Yes, stay away from us, we suck! No jobs, no nothing!

I'm telling all my friends from Ghana, Dominican republic, puerto rico, haiti, Egypt, Pakistan to immigrate from the U.S to a northern European country and make sure they tell their families, cousins friends etc etc :D

[Awesome124]

Nordic nations have small populations but they're achieving a lot in the present time and living moment with regards to their economies and modern day inventions.

Ok, but without the helpof South Europeans, you guys wouldn't come this far

[♥ Lily ♥]

Ok, but without the helpof South Europeans, you guys wouldn't come this far

Do you mean the people living in southern Europe today? Should we praise our ancestors in Africa for teaching humans how to walk?! What matters is the present moment in nature... the species which are surviving and evolving the most in the present moment of time. What have individual people from Greece given to the world recently?

And anyway, humans can only take praise for their own individual achievements in life. I guess the insecure will always want to take credit for things they never personally invented to make themselves feel more worthwhile, (like those herd-mentality football fans wanting praise for another man kicking a ball into a net,) but I take more interest in individual people and their own personal discoveries and achievements.

You can see murderers, drunkards, drug addicts, etc, who were born in the same country as a great scientist or inventor and who have similar DNA.... should they take credit and praise for another individual humans inventions just for being born in the same land, or take the praise over our long dead ancestors personal discoveries?!

I'm born in the same country as Charles Darwin, Florence Nightingale and Tim Berners Lee, but I can't personally take the praise for their personal discoveries and inventions on the basis of having the same nationality! Humans are individuals and it's the ones who know how to survive in nature who are the superior individuals - the elite species in competitive nature.

It's like those people who go on about inventing black and white televisions, they often say 'we' invented' (using herd mentality) - even though the people making those claims never personally invented televisions themselves but want glory and praise in life for another humans individual achievements instead of focusing on their own achievements. People reply to them, "Keep your black & white televisions and we'll keep colour televisions!'' :D "Keep your landline phones and we'll keep mobiles!'' :D

Living in the dead past is like maggots clinging to a dead corpse. The world keeps evolving and moving forward.

[Trogdor]

Claiming Southern Europeans are superior is just as stupid as claiming Northern Europeans are superior. Come up with your own accomplishments and don't stand on the merits of other people. Nobody is "superior".

[alfieb]

And South Europeans are superior!

I admit that Nordic people are very attractive, but we can't ignore the fact that South Europeans civilized them. Around 2000 years ago, when Europe was full of savages and hunters and gatherers, Greece had an advanced civilization. They had the best philosophers, scientists, and artists. Unfortunately, a few decades, Europe fell in the Dark Ages and the continent suffered from plagues, deaths, and diseases. In 1350s, Italian culture blossomed and slowly pulled itself into the Renaissance. All of Europe was so stunned by their accomplishments that they copied off of them...lol. During the Renaissance, Italians took Ancient Greek and Roman ideas and improved them greatly. Their arts, culture, science advanced greatly.

It took a while for north Europe to get out of the Middle Ages. In fact, they were never really civilized until recently (1500s). If it weren't for the South Europeans, North Europeans would still be living in the middle ages. So, that's why I think North European people have the beauty but South Europeans have the brains.

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[alfieb]

Claiming Southern Europeans are superior is just as stupid as claiming Northern Europeans are superior. Come up with your own accomplishments and don't stand on the merits of other people. Nobody is "superior".
It's stupid, but I wouldn't say as stupid. We have historical basis for superiority. All they have is BUT MUH ECONOMY...

[Ctwentysevenj]

Poor troll using an English invention of the world wide web just to troll. Nobody is that ignorant. Over 54% of all great modern inventions in the world come from Great Britain according to many people I've spoken to (some say it's higher,) and London is currently the capital of digital technology in Europe and the worlds first ever industrialised city, the first city to have metros and shopping malls, etc,.... and look at everything the English have given to the modern world, including in this present moment, such as the Skylon, Rolls Royce engines (finest in the world used for jumbo jets and on the Concorde, etc!) The list of inventions from Great Britain is very long compared to






other European countries in the modern age. England invented nursing and hospitals, worlds first eye hospital, and plenty more. The Eurotunnel, Concorde, Thames Flood Barrier (most advanced in the world.) Sir Norman Foster invented the Gherkin intelligent skyscraper, and the worlds first wind-turbine skyscraper is in London, and the worlds tallest bridge in France was designed by Sir Norman Foster too. Evolution was discovered by Darwin, then we have Richard Dawkins and Stephen Hawking, Sir Isaac Newton (discovered gravity) and too much to mention.


Also Tim Berners-Lee The inventor of the World Wide Web at his base at CERN.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee

[Desaix DeBurgh]

And South Europeans are superior!

I admit that Nordic people are very attractive, but we can't ignore the fact that South Europeans civilized them. Around 2000 years ago, when Europe was full of savages and hunters and gatherers, Greece had an advanced civilization. They had the best philosophers, scientists, and artists. Unfortunately, a few decades, Europe fell in the Dark Ages and the continent suffered from plagues, deaths, and diseases. In 1350s, Italian culture blossomed and slowly pulled itself into the Renaissance. All of Europe was so stunned by their accomplishments that they copied off of them...lol. During the Renaissance, Italians took Ancient Greek and Roman ideas and improved them greatly. Their arts, culture, science advanced greatly.

It took a while for north Europe to get out of the Middle Ages. In fact, they were never really civilized until recently (1500s). If it weren't for the South Europeans, North Europeans would still be living in the middle ages. So, that's why I think North European people have the beauty but South Europeans have the brains.

I think you will really enjoy this website lmfao :

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[Trogdor]

It's stupid, but I wouldn't say as stupid. We have historical basis for superiority. All they have is BUT MUH ECONOMY...

Yes but I see an awful lot of people on here who claim they are better than someone else because of the achievements of other people in their group, even if they themselves haven't personally accomplished anything. No matter who is doing it, it's ridiculous.

[Alchemysta]

meds are the most insecure and easy to troll of them all lol

[alfieb]

Yes but I see an awful lot of people on here who claim they are better than someone else because of the achievements of other people in their group, even if they themselves haven't personally accomplished anything. No matter who is doing it, it's ridiculous.

I hate supremacism as much as the next guy. My critique is that relativism is extreme. The Egyptsearch types who believe in Negroid supremacism and claim Jesus Christ as black, the ancient Greeks as black, etc. are more ridiculous even than the Nordicist morons of Skadi/early Apricity et. al.

I can't really dispute the OP too much, since I sympathize with her views.

[♥ Lily ♥]

We have historical basis for superiority. All they have is BUT MUH ECONOMY...

A good economy is the result of the national efficiency and productiveness of a country.

What did you personally invent or discover to make you as superior to amazing individuals like Stephen Hawking or Sir Norman Foster?

Are you a great composer, a leading musician, a top architect with superior skills in his craft to others, a superior athlete, or a pioneering inventor? Superiority is for individual humans (regardless of their race or nationality) who are elite or superior in their own personal skill in life or in their own intelligence and achievements.

There's people living in every country who are serial killers and drug addicts, but nobody wants to claim being the same as them. Insecure people seek glory and self-worth on the achievements of other individual humans.

[Smaug]

Britain and Italy are the pinnacle of the human existence.

[alfieb]

A good economy comes is the result of a national effort and production in a country.

What did you personally invent or discover to make you as superior to amazing individuals like Stephen Hawking or Sir Norman Foster?

Are you a great composer, a leading musician, a top architect with superior skills in his craft to others, a superior athlete, or a pioneering inventor? Superiority is for individual humans (regardless of their race or nationality) who are elite or superior in their own personal skill in life or in their own intelligence and achievements.

There's people living in every country who are serial killers and drug addicts, but nobody wants to claim being the same as them. Insecure people seek glory and self-worth on the achievements of other individual humans.

I'm anti-MUH PEEPUL. I'm far from historically significant nor have I claimed otherwise.

But someone whose signature is boasting about beautiful English landmarks that they didn't make, whose greatest contribution to the world was a mulatto child should not be mincing my words.

[McCauley]

A good economy is the result of the national efficiency and productiveness of a country.

What did you personally invent or discover to make you as superior to amazing individuals like Stephen Hawking or Sir Norman Foster?

Are you a great composer, a leading musician, a top architect with superior skills in his craft to others, a superior athlete, or a pioneering inventor? Superiority is for individual humans (regardless of their race or nationality) who are elite or superior in their own personal skill in life or in their own intelligence and achievements.

There's people living in every country who are serial killers and drug addicts, but nobody wants to claim being the same as them. Insecure people seek glory and self-worth on the achievements of other individual humans.

Stephan Hawking is massively overblown and hasn't actually invented or done much of anything. He just theorizes, that's it. And even then half of what he says is most likely bullshit.

[♥ Lily ♥]

I'm anti-MUH PEEPUL. I'm far from historically significant nor have I claimed otherwise.

But someone whose signature is boasting about beautiful English landmarks that they didn't make, whose greatest contribution to the world was a mulatto child should not be mincing my words.

How is my signature 'boasting'? It's just there to show ignorant people like yourself that there's more to London than what they think they know. Am I claiming to have built all those things??? Your skin is darker than a mixed race child with a tan who gets complements from people a lot and who can play piano like I could at the same age. My current boyfriend has blue eyes and pale skin like myself - no tan like you have.

I don't like your vile manners so don't expect me to show you any respect back. How many children do you have and do they go to a residential school? Do they play piano too? Are your children lily skinned like me and my English boyfriend? You don't have blond hair and blue eyes, yet want to attack a young child as his father is from a paradise island of St Lucia and for having dark brown hair like yourself and a light tan to him like yourself.

During the British Empire in Antigua, the British people ranked mixed-race children there as being lighter than southern Europeans. It's in wikipedia! Look in a mirror next time you want to talk about whiteness.

[McCauley]

How is my signature 'boasting'? It's just there to show ignorant people like yourself that there's more to London than what they think they know. Am I claiming to have built all those things??? Your skin is darker than a mixed race child with a tan who gets complements from people a lot and who can play piano like I could at the same age. My current boyfriend has blue eyes and pale skin like myself - no tan like you have.

I don't like your vile manners so don't expect me to show you any respect back. How many children do you have and do they go to a residential school? Do they play piano too? Are your children lily skinned like me and my English boyfriend? You don't have blond hair and blue eyes, yet want to attack a young child as his father is from a paradise island for having dark hair like yourself and a light tan like yourself. Sick creep - look in a mirror.

Hey, do not speak this way to people, because right now you are throwing stones from a glass house. You are anti-Scottish and wrote pages of posts stereotyping and degrading Scots as drug-addicts and other shit, but you throw a fit when people breach your grandiose delusions about your own country. You compensate for personal shortcomings by doing these garish nationalist displays on the internet (Alpha ++ graded city lmao). Just because you are insecure about your mulatto child doesn't mean you should take it out on others.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Hey, do not speak this way to people, because right now you are throwing stones from a glass house. You are anti-Scottish and wrote pages of posts stereotyping and degrading Scots as drug-addicts and other shit, but you throw a fit when people breach your delusions about your own country. You compensate for personal shortcomings by doing these garish nationalist displays on the internet (Alpha ++ graded city lmao). Just because you are insecure about your mulatto child doesn't mean you should take it out on others.

How am I anti-Scottish?!? I was pointing out that a nationality does not make someone as 'good' or 'bad' and used examples to prove my point when someone said Scottish people are ok, something you failed to understand again. A nationality doesn't make every human as 'ok' and I'd say the same if they said the same about English people because I see people as being individuals

I was not trying to imply every Scottish person is like Gerry McCann or Tony Blair, I just wanted to show naive people not to assume that a nationality instantly makes someone as being good. There's paedophiles and serial killers and drug addicts in England too, as well as people who aren't like that.

I'm not insecure about my child otherwise I'd never mention him and show friends his picture (and the funny thing is he's lighter than most southern Europeans,) and I'm not the one going around wishing entire nations to drop dead like yourself and giving 170 thumbs down like yourself, and posting abuse to others all the time like yourself.

I'm not the one who thinks an entire nation of individual people are the same as each other, whether they're Scottish, English, Italian, whatever.... there's murderers and drug addicts in all nations, serial killers, etc, as well as scientists, that was my point.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Stephan Hawking is massively overblown and hasn't actually invented or done much of anything. He just theorizes, that's it. And even then half of what he says is most likely bullshit.

You're greater than him? Where's your wiki profile? Well yea you are greater at trolling and being abusive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking

[Vendafor]

Inb4 a borreby ubermensch comes in and bodyslams every gracile med on this thread.

Honestly, if you care anything about white/European preservation, we should all band together against the plagues from the east. Northern vs Southern Nordic vs Mediterranean Slavic vs Germanic is all just dividing us even more.
I hope some of you heard the term 'no more brothers war'.

[alfieb]

I don't like your vile manners so don't expect me to show you any respect back.

My vile manners? You started with ad-hominems. I'm just better at it.

[McCauley]

How am I anti-Scottish?!? I was pointing out that a nationality does not make someone as 'good' or 'bad' and used examples to prove my point, something you failed to understand again.

I'm not insecure about my child otherwise I'd never mention him and show friends his picture (and the funny thing is he's lighter than most southern Europeans,) and I'm not the one going around wishing entire nations to drop dead like yourself and giving 170 thumbs down like yourself, and posting abuse to others all the time like yourself.

I'm not the one who thinks an entire nation of individual people are the same as each other, whether they're Scottish, English, Italian, whatever.... there's murderers and drug addicts in all nations, serial killers, etc, as well as scientists, that was my point.

Hmmmm, I believe I now have a diagnosis for you. I think the root of your problem is that you love England, but feel as though you have somehow betrayed it by starting a family with a man of another nationality and race. As a result, you attempt to compensate through lurid and feverish nationalist displays. Now, this is classically known in psychology as something called 'cognitive-dissonance'. Your mind is host to a sort of 'ideological dichotomy', so to speak, and so your unconscious tries (unsuccessfully) to reconcile two conflicting aspects of your person.

I remember exactly what you've written in the past, and I will scarcely forget it anytime soon. I consider you, as a person, dangerous to the Scottish people. From what I gathered during my forays into the deep parts of the British web, among nationalist and Ukip types such as yourself, your sentiment about Scots is actually not so uncommon- in fact it may even be startlingly ubiquitous. If this sort of nationalist sentiment rises to a feverish pitch in the coming years, as social unrest increases, Scots may actually be at some peril because of psychologically unstable English sorts, like you. So, in conclusion- I suggest you make peace with your decisions in life, learn to accept yourself as you are, and perhaps consult with some people who can help you. I only want the best for you, keep this in mind.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Hmmmm, I believe I now have a diagnosis for you. I think the root of your problem is that you love England, but feel as though you have somehow betrayed it by starting a family with a man of another nationality and race. As a result, you attempt to compensate through lurid and feverish nationalist displays. Now, this is classically known in psychology as something called 'cognitive-dissonance'. Your mind is host to a sort of 'ideological dichotomy', so to speak, and so your unconscious tries (unsuccessfully) to reconcile two conflicting aspects of your person.

I remember exactly what you've written in the past, and I will scarcely forget it anytime soon. I consider you, as a person, dangerous to the Scottish people. From what I gathered during my forays into the deep parts of the British web, among nationalist and Ukip types such as yourself, your sentiment about Scots is actually not so uncommon- in fact it may even be startlingly ubiquitous. If this sort of nationalist sentiment rises to a feverish pitch in the coming years, as social unrest increases, Scots may actually be at some peril because of psychologically unstable English sorts, like you. So, in conclusion- I suggest you make peace with your decisions in life, learn to accept yourself as you are, and perhaps consult with some people who can help you. I only want the best for you, keep this in mind.

I'm not nationalistic in everyday life at all. You'll never see me waving an English flag from my window as I'm not into heavy patriotism and I believe in individualism and I don't relate much to the mainstream culture and the mainstream societal music and beliefs and the way mainstream culture is with the media and brainwashing anyway, nor would I care if England won the world cup as I hate football and its patriotic fans. I relate more to a gothic subculture to be honest. When I'm on-line I put up a defence against people slandering England all the time, but not only against attacks on English people, but attacks on people from other nations too. I don't expect you to understand this.

UKIP interests me for the purposes of being against the corrupt EU and wanting to have a government in the UK elected by the people to be making our laws, rather than having it done by unelected eurocrats in Brussels, and also I'm against Islamisation. I don't know what other party will do something about Islamisation and the EU dictatorship.

I'm dangerous to Scottish people?! Well there's several million individual people with different personalities and even with different backgrounds living there (including my father living in Scotland.) You mean Tony Blair or my Scottish friend in London? That's an irrational delusion in your paranoid mind. I stopped reading right there.

[Ctwentysevenj]

This thread right at the beginning is stupid and divisive. Like comparing Italians to Arabs and Punjabis. All Europeans are the same, it is just how they went about developing their societies, some have been more successful. Remember, Europe has been the pinnacle of modern civilization which started with the Greeks and the Romans, and today, Northern and central Europe are overall more advance economically than southern Europe, except for Italy which is a major industrial power. I prefer to visit Europe than most places in the world . I hopefully one day I will visit Europe. Only be there once before, and I loved it.

[Ctwentysevenj]

This Austrian girl is Nordic beauty, so they are not inferior. Her name is Valarie Florine Huber, a Miss Austria

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31.0-8/s960x960/1271294_3329268807465_807441824_o.jpg

[Stears]

Nordic nations have small populations but they're achieving a lot in the present time and living moment with regards to their economies and modern day inventions. Northern countries (Scandinavians Denmark etc...) had no significant contribution in European science technology and culture.

[Stears]

This Austrian girl is Nordic beauty, so they are not inferior. Her name is Valarie Florine Huber, a Miss Austria https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31.0-8/s960x960/1271294_3329268807465_807441824_o.jpg This is not nordic girl. Watch the died hair and the wide nose structure.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Northern countries (Scandinavians Denmark etc...) had no significant contribution in European science technology and culture.

Their populations are small and their countries are very cold. I think Scandinavians were more focused on surviving in cold temperatures. They're efficient people.

[Stears]

Their populations are small and their countries are very cold. I think Scandinavians were more focused on surviving in cold temperatures. They're efficient people. But do not forget, that British contribution in science and technology declined very very significantly from the 1890s.

[♥ Lily ♥]

But do not forget, that British contribution in science and technology declined very very significantly from the 1890s.

The Skylon is a recent invention, the Concorde, Rolls Royce engines, the bionic man, the world wide web, London is currently named as the European capital of digital technology...

[Stears]

The Skylon is a recent invention, the Concorde, Rolls Royce engines, the bionic man, the world wide web... Compare it with Hungarian contribution in the 1890-1945 period.

[♥ Lily ♥]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_the_United_Kingdom

[Stears]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_the_United_Kingdom The first practical telephone, patented by Alexander Graham Bell (1847–1922).[17] The discovery of penicillin, by biologist and pharmacologist, Sir Alexander Fleming (1881–1955).[18] The world's first working television system, and colour television, by John Logie Baird (1888–1946).[19][20] The first meaningful synthesis of quantum mechanics with special relativity by Paul Dirac (1902–84) in the equation named after him, and his subsequent prediction of antimatter.[21] The invention of the jet engine, by Frank Whittle (1907–96).[22] The invention of the hovercraft, by Christopher Cockerell (1910–99).[23] The colossus computer, by Alan Turing (1912–54), the first digital computer (a code breaker in WWII made in Bletchley Park) computer.[22] The structure of DNA, by Francis Crick (1916–2004) and others.[24] The theoretical breakthrough of the Higgs mechanism to explain electroweak symmetry breaking and why some particles have mass, by Peter Higgs (1929-).[25] Theories in cosmology, quantum gravity and black holes, by Stephen Hawking (1942–).[26] The invention of the World Wide Web, by Tim Berners-Lee (1989).[27]

80% of them are simply not true, it is enough to read the own separate articles of that "invnetions"

[Lusos]

There's always someone better at something.
There's always someone worst at something.

[♥ Lily ♥]

The first practical telephone, patented by Alexander Graham Bell (1847–1922).[17] The discovery of penicillin, by biologist and pharmacologist, Sir Alexander Fleming (1881–1955).[18] The world's first working television system, and colour television, by John Logie Baird (1888–1946).[19][20] The first meaningful synthesis of quantum mechanics with special relativity by Paul Dirac (1902–84) in the equation named after him, and his subsequent prediction of antimatter.[21] The invention of the jet engine, by Frank Whittle (1907–96).[22] The invention of the hovercraft, by Christopher Cockerell (1910–99).[23] The colossus computer, by Alan Turing (1912–54), the first digital computer (a code breaker in WWII made in Bletchley Park) computer.[22] The structure of DNA, by Francis Crick (1916–2004) and others.[24] The theoretical breakthrough of the Higgs mechanism to explain electroweak symmetry breaking and why some particles have mass, by Peter Higgs (1929-).[25] Theories in cosmology, quantum gravity and black holes, by Stephen Hawking (1942–).[26] The invention of the World Wide Web, by Tim Berners-Lee (1989).[27]

80% of the are simply not true, it is enough to read the own articles of that 'invnetions"

There's quite a bit missing from the list, such as the worlds first IVF test-tube baby, the worlds first metro, the worlds first cloned sheep, the worlds first complete bionic man, the Skylon, the worlds first sports car which runs on a gas made from thin air, etc.

Here's 50 of the best inventions from Great Britain. http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-01-08/the-50-greatest-british-inventions

And another long list here (and the list is incomplete.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_British_inventions

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu253/Tyranos/2-3.jpg

[Lusos]

A curiosity

"Portuguese create two inventions per day, but not always do they hit the store shelves. The lack of entrepreneurship continues to be the stick in the wheels of progress.

The video that that went viral about what the Finns need to know about Portugal is full of references to inventions attributed to the Portuguese. From the Latin sail to the green lane toll payment system for highways, from prepaid mobile phone cards to the Pastel de Nata custard tart, furthermore including the development of new medicine or the invention of equipment for renewable energy, there is a lot of resourcefulness that makes Portugal one of the countries with a significant number of patent registrations per capita.

Curiously, the better part comes from independent inventors (38%) taking the lead over Universities (30%), Companies (26%) and Public Institutes (6%), according to the National Institute of Industrial Patents – INPI, which implies that we are a country of inventors and resourceful people, capable of creating objects or peculiar inventions like an anti-snoring pillow or a sterilization equipment for hospitals coveted by Israelis.

Even from garbage, we are able to dig good ideas, like Mr. Mario Silva did. From an early age he was always inventing things, the type that would take apart an object and assemble it into something different, he was always trying to see beyond what the object was designed to do. The question that he posed to himself was “How can people get fascinated with garbage?” The answer was quite simple: “to bring value to people. In this way, they will want to keep the garbage.” How can you do that? “By producing results with the garbage that people get excited with. Solutions of appealing homemade recycling.”


Candlemaker machine by Oon. Photo credits: Jorge Simão
From that aha moment, Mr. Silva came up with the idea of recycling used cooking oil and transforming it into candles. He contacted friends, created a work group and this was the beginning of Candlemaker, a machine that transforms used cooking oil into aromatic candles. Besides building the machine, Mr. Silva (who has a degree in Management and Marketing) created a company, Oon, to market his invention. Since the patent registry in 2007 until putting it into the market in 2010, he underwent a process that started with 100 euros for the patent application and ended up with a cost of 70 000 euros in three years. “There is a complexity of things to apply for: processes, drawings, names and more. It is really demanding,” he states.

Oon was only possible through venture capital funding. “It was not easy to turn the project into reality, because we are a country accustomed to have everything already made and who doesn’t want to put products in other markets because this requires capital and we don’t have the capacity to visualize things before others do”, he laments. This regretful tone of voice is understandable because Oon is in the risk of insolvency since the backers of the project don’t have the means, due to the crisis, to give it continuity, which would enter into an International activity, requiring a capital of 5 milllion euros, according to Mr. Silva.

Being an inventor is not enough. You must also be an entrepreneur. Most of the time, investment is the vulnerable heel of Achilles of the inventor that doesn’t have financial backup. Moreover, some inventions cannot be developed because the technical solution may already be in use in the market under another form. “The recognition that the idea is good is not easy, but José Mauricio, responsible for the INPI – Portuguese Institute of Industrial Property, considers that “it’s up to the own inventor to define a strategy to put his object into the market.”

Many inventors complain of the lack of support from the state and from the companies. Mr. Mauricio downplays the situation by saying “don’t suppose that the state has the obligation to open the doors to the success of your creation. The state can give some support, but the inventor must he himself define the strategy of continuity of his invention, its commercial application, the necessary patent and trademark registry, develop partnerships and guarantee the necessary capital through venture capitalists, taking into account the risk-benefit analysis.”

This discourse is a reality but not well assimilated by people who already earned their stripes as inventors. “You can not expect one to have a diversity of knowledge and is multifaceted to do everything. Often times, the inventor is not the best manager” notices Pedro Carradinha, creator of Heat-it, a mountaineering gear which fits gas stoves that enables its use under practically any weather.


Heat-It by Ortik. Photo credits - Jorge Simão
The 35 year old engineer (which at the beginning didn’t envision any commercial use for his invention, but rather from a necessity of a mountaineering enthusiast of having an accessory that protected the gas stove’s flame in severe weather conditions) confides that the duration of process that he underwent, was very demanding and long, starting with the prototype in 1999 until setting up shop in 2009.

“The first application for a patent was in 2005. Back then, I already knew Nuno Monge, with whom I later formed the company Ortik. We took over one year to understand the patent registry process. We wrote various texts and submitted different technical drawings”, he explains. In 2006 they headed to a trade fair in Germany to verify if the product had interest in the mountaineering market. The product has such an acceptance that some Canadians wanted to place an order for 1000 units.”


Heat-It mountaineering gear. Photo Credits: Jorge Simão
As soon as they returned to Portugal they searched for an entrepreneur of the textile industry to manufacture the product but the doors closed in on them. “Some didn’t even care to reply” assures Mr. Carradinha. Pedro and Nuno decided to send the specifications to China, and three weeks later, they received their product ready at no cost, with a note asking if this was exactly what they wanted. “Although we only had one series made, the Chinese bought the fabric for two series, but we have just paid one yet. They took a chance with us. Here, entrepreneurs are little receptive to new projects. They don’t get informed and don’t take risks”, they conclude.

Regarding investments, the owners of Ortik said that they first tried “the utopia of a bank finance”. Then they contacted friends and found an investing partner, but it was through the introduction of three business angels that the business took off. Later, a Risk Capital institution referred by the Ministry of Economy decided also to invest in the company, which by then already has a selection of products besides Heat-It, like tents and mattresses.

Actually, there are few financial supports, especially in times of crisis. Nevertheless the responsible for patent registries admits that giving support to inventors in the phase of searching investors “could be incentivized by the INPI Institute due to their good network of contacts.” Simultaneously, he highlights the importance of Technological Institutes that can have a fundamental importance with this kind of support. “I believe they give this type of support if asked. They are not granted due to lack of knowledge of the inventor himself. There are forms of support out there, but the inventors must make some basic research in order to obtain them”, he admonishes.

This is exactly what did Manuel Londreira, Fortunato da Costa and Hélder Gonçalves. The trio was able to give continuity to their projects – and least some of them in Manuel Londreira’s case, but they criticize the lack of support for the protection of their inventions and in some cases, even having their ideas misappropriated by third parties. Both, Fortunato da Costa and Hélder Gonçalves found closed doors over here contrasting with the doors wide open beyond frontiers.


Sterilization technique for medical equipment. Photo credits Rui Duarte Silva
The innovative method of sterilizing medical equipment created by Hélder Gonçalves was not able to “overrun the lobbies established in the medical community in Portugal”, not even by putting some machines under consignment “at zero-cost so that they could give them a try”. Although the equipment has lower costs than that of its competition, the truth is that it continues to loose tenders in an outrageous manner”. Over here he was only able to sell two equipments, one to the Mirandela Hospital and another to the Maternity of Coimbra. The idea however was well accepted by an Israeli multinational, Tuttnauer, which bought the process. However, the inventor clarifies that the primary components of the equipment continue to be manufactured in Portugal.


Anti-carjacking device. Photo credits - Rui Duarte Silva
Another example of how technology can be put to good use is the Anti-Carjacking system created by Manuel Londreira. Born in São João da Madeira, Manuel Londreira invented the Intelligent Multi-use System by Mobile Phone in 2001 but it took seven years to commercialize this anti-carjacking system that mobilizes by mobile phone the stolen vehicle. The project was awarded a golden medal in the Exhibition of Inventions in Geneva (the world’s largest marketplace for inventions) and entered the market by forming a partnership with the GPS manufacturer Novotrónica. This year, Mr. Londreira has already developed another Project named Equidade Fiscal/Social (Tax and Social equitability), that curbs tax evasion.

According to José Maurício, “there are about 100 or 150 individual inventors, being most of them associated with Corporations or Universities. Working on their own, there must be around 20 inventors”. Every year, the INPI receives approximately 18 to 20 thousand trademark registrations, but in reality, the numbers have little significance. “In absolute terms, new patent applications are not that strong. Comparatively with other European countries, the ideal would be to receive between 2500 to 3000 applications per year” warns José Maurício. He adds that in 2011 they are expecting between 800 to 900 patent applications.

The question is if what matters to Portugal is the result of the activity of the individual inventors or the activity produced by inventors in Corporations and Universities? For the director of the Patent Registry, the results of the latter have greater weight, even though there are Portuguese who are awarded in the Exhibition of Inventions in Geneva every year. However “winning a prize and a medal are not enough. One of the patentability requirements is that the claimed invention is useful for some industrial application”. This is where everything gets complicated, especially for the independent inventors.

The Patent Registry director from the INPI draws attention to the fact that there are a lot of inventors who don’t respond to the notifications of the INPI regarding the process of registry, thus losing their rights, while still others let their patent validity lapse.

[Stears]

There's quite a bit missing from the list, such as the worlds first IVF test-tube baby, the worlds first metro, the worlds first cloned sheep, the worlds first complete bionic man, etc. Here's 50 of the best inventions from Great Britain. http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-01-08/the-50-greatest-british-inventions And another long list here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_British_inventions Telephone was not invented by Bell. Read the article of telephone.
TV was not invented by British people (read the article: history of TV), Kálmán Tiahyni a Hungarian inventor got the UNESCO prize of "Memory of the Word"
Jet engine is not british invention (read the article of history of jet engine) There are Hungarian and French inventors in earlier era.
Computer is very debatable, it is rather German and American
Quantum theory, mostly Hungarian (János Neumann )

[♥ Lily ♥]

Telephone was not invented by Bell. Read the article of telephone.
TV was not invented by British people (read the article: history of TV), Kálmán Tiahyni a Hungarian inventor got the UNESCO prize of "Memory of the Word"
Jet engine is not british invention (read the article of history of jet engine) There are Hungarian and French inventors in earlier era.
Computer is very debatable, it is rather German and American
Quantum theory, mostly Hungarian (János Neumann )

Visit the Science Museum in London sometime, it's free entry and they've made it fun for visitors to learn more.

This is the Skylon which will transform both aviation and rockets. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?134675-Revolutionary-New-19-0000mph-UK-Skylon-Plane-Is-Set-To-Transform-Both-Aviation-And-Rockets!!&highlight=Skylon

Concorde and the Eurotunnel were both Anglo-Franco achievements, along with the Millau Bridge.

The Thames Flood Barrier is another great achievement.

Anyway I think it's more accurate to call all great inventions as human accomplishments rather than national accomplishments.

The worlds most advanced anti-aircraft ship. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ4hLbD42q8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvDxV2LxnM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7cd9YXBYpA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZzvLfXtDSQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAchHFziGfY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSMNPlZOB0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfomloUg2Gw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0FoExqjN5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9h0qUa1xjU

[Drawing-slim]

Nordic people clearly are the most advanced race in the planet. This however is due to their pure luck, yes pure lucky draw in the evolutionary ladder historical and geographical which is all the same.
They're as they should be the most progressive bunch. They have been protected by the southerners, by the climate, by location, time to ponder, reflect, experiment with ideas, uninterrupted, all these ingredients can't be ignored. Has allowed them to make progress as whole, unlike the south that wasn't as blessed.
Tes south is was and always be will be the environment that can produce the greatests, but as whole only Nordic countries were blessed as complete in a sense.

[armenianbodyhair]

These threads are so retarded.

[Sarmatian]

The Vikings... had the worlds most advanced boats and swords.

That's not true. An average Viking sword was made of extremely impure metal and couldn't survive for long. They were breaking and had to be reworked regularly. That's why axes were far more widespread - they were much easier to make and their combat qualities weren't affected by metal quality as much as swords.

The best Viking swords known are called Ulfberht and only about 170 of them was ever made. The grade of metal they were made of was impossible to achieve in Europe at the time since blacksmiths were unable to heat ore to the point of melting. There was documentary called 'Secrets of the Viking Sword' in which one enthusiast managed to achieve the same quality of steel using forging methods known to be used in Volga-Don area in the era of Vikings. He made a replica of ancient furnace unearthed near Caspian sea and it did the job pretty well. His conclusion was that Viking traders brought steel bars from East and they were later used to produce a number of superb quality swords. Yet the rest of Viking swords were crap.

However it's not the quality of their weapons but their excellent fighting skills and advanced tactics what made Vikings unmatched on battlefield for centuries.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Nordic people clearly are the most advanced race in the planet. This however is due to their pure luck, yes pure lucky draw in the evolutionary ladder historical and geographical which is all the same.
They're as they should be the most progressive bunch. They have been protected by the southerners, by the climate, by location, time to ponder, reflect, experiment with ideas, uninterrupted, all these ingredients can't be ignored. Has allowed them to make progress as whole, unlike the south that wasn't as blessed.
Tes south is was and always be will be the environment that can produce the greatests, but as whole only Nordic countries were blessed as complete in a sense.

Odin and Thor may have blessed the Germanic and Nordic people with wisdom and strength. Even the weekdays are still named after these ancient Germanic and Nordic Gods & Goddesses. Icelanders had the wisdom and strength to jail the bankers and government and have a revolution. Got to look up to Iceland for that. They've won more gold medals in strongest man competitions than any other nation in the world.

[alfieb]

Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday were of Germanic origin but Saturday, Sunday, and Monday were of Latin origin.

[Queen B]

Do you mean the people living in southern Europe today? Should we praise our ancestors in Africa for teaching humans how to walk?! What matters is the present moment in nature... the species which are surviving and evolving the most in the present moment of time. What have individual people from Greece given to the world recently?

Well, we shouldn't forget that Greece was under Ottomans for about 400 years, its obvious that under those savages, no advancements could be made.No arts, no science, nothing.
Ionian islands , which were under Venetians on the other hand, had quite a few artists and important people on that period.
Also, from half of the century of 1900s, Greece was in constant wars. 2 World wars, 2 Balkan wars, 1 Greco-Turkish war, plus Civil war.
However, there are several important people the last century from Greece.
First and foremost (at least to me), was Georgios Papanikolaou (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgios_Papanikolaou), the inventor of Pap Smear test, which saved millions of women from cervical cancer. There are also many pretty important/Influential people like Constantine Caratheodory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantin_Carath%C3%A9odory), Alec Issigonis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Issigonis), Mike Lazaridis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Lazaridis),Dimitris Nanopoulos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitri_Nanopoulos), and many others, let along artists.

Anyway, I don't think that either Northern Europeans, neither Southern are inferior/superior. Each of them have given much, depending on the period of time and their conditions.

[Hithaeglir]

A troll comes in,opens a retarded thread and everybody falls into the trap :laugh: that's TA :laugh:

[Drawing-slim]

A troll comes in,opens a retarded thread and everybody falls into the trap :laugh: that's TA :laugh:Thats so politically correct of you. Another words I have no doubt you're a good personxD

[alfieb]

A troll comes in,opens a retarded thread and everybody falls into the trap :laugh: that's TA :laugh:

Is it really falling for a trap when you know it's a trap and you don't care?

Like, you're a mouse and you grab a piece of cheese out of a trap and it doesn't break your leg because you saw it coming.

I got my cheese. That's all I care about.

[Hithaeglir]

Is it really falling for a trap when you know it's a trap and you don't care?

Like, you're a mouse and you grab a piece of cheese out of a trap and it doesn't break your leg because you saw it coming.

I got my cheese. That's all I care about.

Could be that too.But aren't people tired of responding to the same trolling pattern? These north vs south inferiority/superiority wars have been repeated many times xD

[jatt]

Ladies u r Both Pretty

[Vendafor]

But do not forget, that British contribution in science and technology declined very very significantly from the 1890s.
No one cares what you have to say, LOL

[Cristiano viejo]

Nice thread, Nordic people is overrated. Yes, the last fifty years its economies dont suck. Halleluya! :rolleyes:
They will be the first Europeans to dissapear. Their pathetic tolerance will finish with them.

[Vendafor]

With that being said, Nordic women unfortunately take a lot of black c*ck and tend to aim towards liberalism in political views. (atleast the swedes do)

[Stears]

No one cares what you have to say, LOL And the fewest contribution of British isles made by Ireland.

[Ctwentysevenj]

This is not nordic girl. Watch the died hair and the wide nose structure.

She only lives next door to Hungary.

[Vendafor]

Yeah and? We are a pretty small country, and don't start wars, and I don't think that is not 'Contributing'. Most dairy imports in Europe come from Ireland.

[Stears]

Yeah and? We are a pretty small country, and don't start wars, and I don't think that is not 'Contributing'. Most dairy imports in Europe come from Ireland. My discussion is about the contribution in science and technology and culture.

[Vendafor]

My discussion is about the contribution in science and technology and culture.
My discussion is about how no one generally cares what you have to say because 90% of the time you are just trolling.

[Stears]

My discussion is about how no one generally cares what you have to say because 90% of the time you are trolling. Blah blah blah, it is a typical loser answer of a teenager who lost all debates..

[Vendafor]

Debates? Where? I was just informing you no one is taking your 'facts' seriously because you are a confirmed trololol. And not even a good one at that.

[Vendafor]

Blah blah blah, it is a typical loser answer of a teenager who lost all debates..
Debates? Where? I was just informing you no one is taking your 'facts' seriously because you are a confirmed trololol. And not even a good one at that.

EDIT: Sorry for double post.

[Ctwentysevenj]

And the fewest contribution of British isles made by Ireland.

One of Kalman Kando's first electric locomotives. I had to post it.
http://erojr.home.cern.ch/erojr/content/Pictures/Old/Kando/EXP_1.JPG

http://erojr.home.cern.ch/erojr/content/models/kando/kan_his1.htm

[Stears]

What debates, I'm just saying? With the fact you are a confirmed trolololol I'm just giving you a heads up that your 'facts' won't be taken seriously. When you write "troll", it is a clear signal of the avoidance of any real disputes.

[Stears]

History of Science and technology in Hungary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary

The northern europeans (Danish Swedish Norwegians )had no real contribution in science technology and high culture.

[Vendafor]

When you write "troll", it is a clear signal of the avoidance of any real disputes.
When you write "Why are WOG nations very-very weak in individual sports and in science and technology?" or "Why are negroid people physically weaker than the whites with similar body-structure?" It is a clear signal of trolling.

[Alchemysta]

It's funny how nobody bitched about "trolls" "anti-nordic" "closeee threaaaaad"..if this was bout italians closed in 10 seconds lol

[Cristiano viejo]

It's funny how nobody bitched about "trolls" "anti-nordic" "closeee threaaaaad"..if this was bout italians closed in 10 seconds lol

OP was banned.

[Alchemysta]

But thread still on that's what we talkin bruh

[Vendafor]

Threads like these are bound to end in a few bans and arguments.

[Stears]

When you write "Why are WOG nations very-very weak in individual sports and in science and technology?" or "Why are negroid people physically weaker than the whites with similar body-structure?" It is a clear signal of trolling. Why trolling? These are facts. WOG people are weak in science and technology (See scientific types of Nobel awards) , and they are weak in sports (See the medal table of olympics games) and see the "World's strongest man" competition. Do you think that Nobel committee are racist? Do you think that the gravitational force is racist in the sport events? Anyway, you are a descendant of a third worlder immigrant.

[Jana]

Denmark has highest quality of life in Europe according to some reviews, no nothing inferior about them. But Sweden failed immigration policy may crush it's welfare system (yes, I Know some people from ex-Yu who moved there as refugees and sit on their welfare, living like kings , being unemployed at same time), so they may think of some changes. Finland is most fascinating, in obscure location, harsh climate and under Swedish/Russian rule in the past, and menaged to have superior education system and technology. Respect, especially because it is much harder for isolated county far north to develop than mediterranean one in nice climate and in middle of trade routes. These are facts :D

[Vendafor]

Why trolling? These are facts. WOG people are weak in science and technology (See scientific types of Nobel awards) , and they are weak in sports (See the medal table of olympics games) and see the Word's strongest man competition. Do you think that Nobel committee are racist? Do you think that the gravitational force is racist in the sport events? Anyway, you are a descendant of a third worlder immigrant.
That's what I was saying.. you're so called 'facts'. There's no proof they are actually weaker. Blacks are just about the same in strength as a cro magnid white people, but much stronger then leptomorphic peoples like your self. The best boxers happen to be black, best runners, best football players (in both European and American). I am by no means defending blacks, I'm just saying the truth. You're just a trololol. And that I'm a descendant of a third world immigrant? Is that a fact too? LOL.

[Stears]

Denmark has highest quality of life in Europe according to some reviews, no nothing inferior about them. But Sweden failed immigration policy may crush it's welfare system (yes, I Know some people from ex-Yu who moved there as refugees and sit on their welfare, living like kings , being unemployed at same time), so they may think of some changes. Finland is most fascinating, in obscure location, harsh climate and under Swedish/Russian rule in the past, and menaged to have superior education system and technology. Respect, especially because it is much harder for isolated county far north to develop than mediterranean one in nice climate and in middle of trade routes. These are facts :D Many arabic oil countries have higher standard of living than Sweden... It means nothing.

[Jana]

Many arabic oil countries have higher standard of living than Sweden... It means nothing.

To me these are primitive countries, because they produce nothing, and when their oil runs out they may return to sand, unless they start emphasising education and inovation. Sweden is not comparable, it has diverse industry and export. And history, yes.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Maybe time to close the thread. Probably doesn't Matter if it closes or stays open, another one will open up on a similar subject.

[Rudel]

You are right....but they copied of Italy
The Flanders hardly "copied" Italy. There was a synchronic "Renaissance" movement that spanned from the Lower Countries to Italy stimulated by the Gothic legacy that spanned out of France, trade along the London/Venice axis and intellectuals bleeding out of Greece.

The notion of Renaissance itself it rather dubious.

As for the point raised in the original post, Northern Europeans are indeed inferior. But it's self-evident and doesn't deserve a whole new thread.

[Stears]

That's what I was saying.. you're so called 'facts'. There's no proof they are actually weaker. Blacks are just about the same in strength as a cro magnid white people, but much stronger then leptomorphic peoples like your self. The best boxers happen to be black, best runners, best football players (in both European and American). I am by no means defending blacks, I'm just saying the truth. You're just a trololol. And that I'm a descendant of a third world immigrant? Is that a fact too? LOL. It is laughable, when a man from the country (like ireland) of midget dwarf people speak about strength. Black are weak people, that's why they are weak in heavy sports like: weightlifting, hammer throwing, wrestling, rowing. And they are weak in the World's strogest man competition. competition. Are you ethnic irish or just a thirld world immigrant?

[Vendafor]

It is laughable, when a man from the country (like ireland) of midget dwarf people speak about strength. Black are weak people, that's why they are weak in heavy sports like: weightlifting, hammer throwing, wrestling, rowing. And they are weak in the World's strogest man competition. competition. Are you ethnic irish or just a thirld world immigrant?
Average height Ireland:

5 ft 9 1⁄2 in
Average height hungary:
5 ft 9 1⁄2 in

I guess your country are midgets too then xd.

[Stears]

To me these are primitive countries, because they produce nothing, and when their oil runs out they may return to sand, unless they start emphasising education and inovation. Sweden is not comparable, it has diverse industry and export. And history, yes. Swedish attitude, mentality is similar to the russian, both are extremly collectivist and conformist. The Russians are Putinist right wing, and the swedish people are automatically left-liberals. Both are robotic (anti-individualist) sheep nations.

[Alchemysta]

Cromag and black people are the strongest they have probably the same DNA,cm is a depigmented bantu feature.

[Ctwentysevenj]

To me these are primitive countries, because they produce nothing, and when their oil runs out they may return to sand, unless they start emphasising education and inovation. Sweden is not comparable, it has diverse industry and export. And history, yes.

Correct. Those Arabs countries literally produce nothing. They are wealthy if you call it wealthy because of the oil. They are still very primitive countries where they cut people's heads off in public and be executed for changing religions. Sweden is totally the opposite to those countries, they are wealthy due to their brains. There are many well established Swedish high tech companies and they have a very advance economy and society. Those Arabs still live in the 10th century, with no hope ever becoming a first world countries.

[Vendafor]

Swedish attitude, mentality is similar to the russian, both are extremly collectivist and conformist. The Russians are Putinist right wing, and the swedish people are automatically left-liberals. Both are robotic (anti-individualist) sheep nations.

Again applying 'facts' to people. Swedes are scared to speak up because they fear they will be bombed, attacked and brutal gang raped by muslims.

[Vendafor]

Cromag and black people are the strongest they have probably the same DNA,cm is a depigmented bantu feature.
Except Cro magnids are smarter, take Dolph Lundgren for example with an IQ of 160.

[Stears]

Cromag and black people are the strongest they have probably the same DNA,cm is a depigmented bantu feature. Black people are weak, as all heavy sport events clearly shows it.

[Stears]

Again applying 'facts' to people. Swedes are scared to speak up because they fear they will be bombed, attacked and brutal gang raped by muslims. It was an off-topic answer.

[Cristiano viejo]

Why trolling? These are facts. WOG people are weak in science and technology (See scientific types of Nobel awards) , and they are weak in sports (See the medal table of olympics games) and see the "World's strongest man" competition. Do you think that Nobel committee are racist? Do you think that the gravitational force is racist in the sport events? Anyway, you are a descendant of a third worlder immigrant.
You are completely retarded... Nobel Prize and Olympic Games mean nothing. Nobel Prize is fully politized and Olympic Games are every four years and are full of residual sports which nobody practice.
No comment the fact that both things are from XX century (more or less) ... where Da Vinci, Galileo, Cervantes, Miguel Servet, Darwin etc should be?

[Tooting Carmen]

You are completely retarded... Nobel Prize and Olympic Games mean nothing. Nobel Prize is fully politized and Olympic Games are every four years and are full of residual sports which nobody practice.
No comment the fact that both things are from XX century (more or less) ... where Da Vinci, Galileo, Cervantes, Miguel Servet, Darwin etc should be?

I think you're exaggerating with the Olympic Games, but I fully agree with your assessment of the sick joke that is the Nobel Prize.

[Vendafor]

And that is why people don't take Stears seriously. Nobel prize as proof black people are weak? lol.

[Stears]

You are completely retarded... Nobel Prize and Olympic Games mean nothing. Nobel Prize is fully politized and Olympic Games are every four years and are full of residual sports which nobody practice. No comment the fact that both things are from XX century (more or less) ... where Da Vinci, Galileo, Cervantes, Miguel Servet, Darwin etc should be? Cervantes was not scientist Servet was notthe first who invented circulatory system Read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulatory_system#History

All of these persons lived before the high scientific era (from 1880s), when science and technology were extremely much more simple and primitive than in the 20th century.

[Jana]

Swedish attitude, mentality is similar to the russian, both are extremly collectivist and conformist. The Russians are Putinist right wing, and the swedish people are automatically left-liberals. Both are robotic (anti-individualist) sheep nations.

Because many are brainwashed. But, Japanese are known as super collectivist in spirit (they have a old saying that one that sticks out needs to be dealt with:D), and they are very sucesfull nation which has limited natural resources.

PS, Croatian city of Split has highest ratio of olympic medals per inhabitant in entire world, it can be checked online. We call Split most athletic city in the world. In other Dalmatian City where my mother grew up, there were 3 olymic medalists in her street, two water polo player and legend Dražen Petrović. In one street, and I am not lying. Would that make my Croatia superior? Absolutely not, it is a failed country, but genetically people are good athletes. Just like some other nation has other talents. So thread like these are idiotic.

[Stears]

And that is why people don't take Stears seriously. Nobel prize as proof black people are weak? lol. What did I wrote? Are you a simple liar? Nobel prize for mind. Heavy sports in olympics games & word's strongest men competition = physical strength. Why did you lie? Because you have lost the debate?

[Vendafor]

I'll be waiting for you to step into a strongman competition and beat the black people. Because black people are automatically weaker then every white person? Right?

[Stears]

Because many are brainwashed. But, Japanese are known as super collectivist in spirit (they have a old saying that one that sticks out needs to be dealt with:D), and they are very sucesfull nation which has limited natural resources. PS, Croatian city of Split has highest ratio of olympic medals per inhabitant in entire world, it can be checked online. We call Split most athletic city in the world. In other Dalmatian City where my mother grew up, there were 3 olymic medalists in her street, two water polo player and legend Dražen Petrović. In one street, and I am not lying. Would that make my Croatia superior? Absolutely not, it is a failed country, but genetically people are good athletes. Just like some other nation has other talents. So thread like these are idiotic. Puff city of Keszthely has also 3. Hungary is better than any other country in the world in olimpics gold medal per capita ratio.

[Stears]

I'll be waiting for you to step into a strongman competition and beat the black people. Because black people are automatically weaker then every white person? Right? Black people are usually weaker than white people with similar large body structure. But I'm sure there are one exemption, the irish people, When I was there, they were very very low stature people. Many countries even women are taller :)))))))

[Vendafor]

Black people are usually weaker than white people with similar large body structure. But I'm sure there are one exemption, the irish people, When I was there, they were very very low stature people. Many countries even women are taller :)))))))
Again with no proof that black people are 'weaker/weak'. Irish are actually on the taller side of the British isles, competing with Scotland. We have a strong robust population. The dwarf labels come from the old leprechaun American sterotypes. Most adult men here seem to be 5'10-6'2. The official average height for the country was 5'9 and a half, which is the same around most of Europe. I doubt you ever left your city let alone your own house, LOL. So don't lie.

[Stears]

Again with no proof that black people are 'weaker/weak'. Irish are actually on the taller side of the British isles, competing with Scotland. We have a strong robust population. The dwarf labels come from the old leprechaun American sterotypes. Most adult men here seem to be 5'10-6'2. The official average height for the country was 5'9 and a half, which is the same around most of Europe. I doubt you ever left your city let alone your own house, LOL. So don't lie. Wrong. Olymics games are proofs. There are no good black sport men in heavy sports. Deal with it. Average irish people are dwarf. (like you)

[Vendafor]

Then that means average Hungarian are dwarf too? And most of Europe?...

[Jana]

Puff city of Keszthely has also 3. Hungary is better than any other country in the world in olimpics gold medal per capita ratio.

I think it is hard to compare any country to former Yu states in sporting sucess. Hungary is very sucesfull in water sports which is worth of respect, because you have no sea.

You should go to Montenegro too bro, to become more modest. Men under 2 m are not considered super tall there, and women often reach 190. So they may intimidate many Europeans hehehe :))))

[Stears]

Then that means average Hungarian are dwarf too? And most of Europe?... Vast majority of irish people have big head and chubby face on thin and short body.

[Stears]

I think it is hard to compare any country to former Yu states in sporting sucess. Hungary is very sucesfull in water sports which is worth of respect, because you have no sea. You should go to Montenegro too bro, to become more modest. Men under 2 m are not considered super tall there, and women often reach 190. So they may intimidate many Europeans hehehe :)))) Olympics Water sports are not based on Sea. Even great rivers are better for the various rower sports than the sea. We are famous SPA country since the medieval age, Hungary had more pools than bigger countries. Budapest and great cities have traditional SPA and swimming pool cities, so the conditions fro swimming sports were traditionally good. Croatia had Sea coast since 1920. The adriatic coast of Hungary had traditionally italian cities and population since the dark ages. Later slavic people migrated there. Did you know that even your capital city Zagreb was Hungarian city before the mongol invasion?

[Stears]

I think it is hard to compare any country to former Yu states in sporting sucess. Hungary is very sucesfull in water sports which is worth of respect, because you have no sea. You should go to Montenegro too bro, to become more modest. Men under 2 m are not considered super tall there, and women often reach 190. So they may intimidate many Europeans hehehe :)))) Wrong, it is only a minority mountain-shepherd population there.

[Stears]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

Hungary: 167 Olimpics Gold Medal for 9.8 M population (RATIO: 17 gold medals for a million people)

USA nly 967 Gold Medals for 319 Million population (RATIO: 3 gold medals for a million people)

Britain: only 236 Gold Medals for 64 Million population (RATIO: 3,68 gold medals for a million people)

France: only 202 Gold Medals for 66 Million population (RATIO: 3 gold medal for a million people)

Russia: only 133 Gold Medals for 144 Million population (RATIO: 0,923 gold medal for a million people)

Italy: Only 198 Golden Medals for 60 Million (RATIO: 3,3 gold medal for a million people)
AND FINALLY GERMANY (good rsults, but even very far from Hungarian ratio) 547 GErman gold Medals for 80 Million population (RATIO: 6,83 gold medal for a million people)

[Foxy]

Making a team is more winning than disputing.

[Foxy]

You are completely retarded... Nobel Prize and Olympic Games mean nothing. Nobel Prize is fully politized and Olympic Games are every four years and are full of residual sports which nobody practice.
No comment the fact that both things are from XX century (more or less) ... where Da Vinci, Galileo, Cervantes, Miguel Servet, Darwin etc should be?

For about 1 millennium the only countries in Europe to matter were England, France, Spain and Italy, and the only non romance one (England) in reality received so many influxes by the Church and France that half of their dictionary is now romance.

I see all these attempts to look for national glory in Olympic games and Nobel prizes a symbol of frustration since other countries have shaped half of the globe.

[Sikeliot]

Yes, they are inferior. They accomplished nothing until they were civilized from the south.

[Stears]

For about 1 millennium the only countries in Europe to matter were England, France, Spain and Italy, and the only non romance one (England) in reality received so many influxes by the Church and France that half of their dictionary is now romance.

I see all these attempts to look for national glory in Olympic games and Nobel prizes a symbol of frustration since other countries have shaped half of the globe.

But we talked about science and technology.

[Foxy]

But we talked about science and technology.

"Science" is a Latin word and its principles were explained by an Italian.
"Technology" is a Greek word.
None in the world can affirm that he is not a bit Greek and a bit Latin.

[Foxy]

Also about the beauty thing I disagree. I have seen many members pics and I can say that the most beautiful members come from Southern Europe.

As a whole most Southern Euros look healthy and lively, both men and women. I can't say the same for a good portion of northern Europeans who look flaccid and insignificant.

IMO beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some fetish black skin, others blonde hair, but I can affirm that where I live 80% of girls prefer dark guys. This said there are beautiful Asians, beautiful Africans, beautiful Europeans, etc.

[Sarmatian]

Nice thread, Nordic people is overrated. Yes, the last fifty years its economies dont suck. Halleluya! :rolleyes:
They will be the first Europeans to dissapear. Their pathetic tolerance will finish with them.

I guess it's result of them being protected from non-Europeans for centuries by wide buffer of peripheral European states. For all this time they were dealing with more or less similar cultures of Europe. Once alien cultures gained access to Nordic countries these countries are doomed.

[Sarmatian]

The northern europeans (Danish Swedish Norwegians )had no real contribution in science technology and high culture.


Why trolling? These are facts. WOG people are weak in science and technology (See scientific types of Nobel awards) , and they are weak in sports (See the medal table of olympics games) and see the "World's strongest man" competition. Do you think that Nobel committee are racist? Do you think that the gravitational force is racist in the sport events? Anyway, you are a descendant of a third worlder immigrant.

It's quite puzzling how can you manage two mutually exclusive things in your brain? In one post you claim Nordics didn't contribute anything into science and in your very next post you appeal to the name of one of the most famous Nordic scientist and inventor. Do you have some sort of problems with logical thinking?

[Sarmatian]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

Hungary: 167 Olimpics Gold Medal for 9.8 M population (RATIO: 17 gold medals for a million people)

USA nly 967 Gold Medals for 319 Million population (RATIO: 3 gold medals for a million people)

Britain: only 236 Gold Medals for 64 Million population (RATIO: 3,68 gold medals for a million people)

France: only 202 Gold Medals for 66 Million population (RATIO: 3 gold medal for a million people)

Russia: only 133 Gold Medals for 144 Million population (RATIO: 0,923 gold medal for a million people)

Italy: Only 198 Golden Medals for 60 Million (RATIO: 3,3 gold medal for a million people)
AND FINALLY GERMANY (good rsults, but even very far from Hungarian ratio) 547 GErman gold Medals for 80 Million population (RATIO: 6,83 gold medal for a million people)

It's all good but your skills in statistics are crap. To get the right picture you have to compare amount of medals won to number of participants for each country. Otherwise it's seems like you trying to claim all these 319 millions of Americans were working solely for Olympic Gold medals so as all other countries you listed here :loco:

[Stears]

It's all good but your skills in statistics are crap. To get the right picture you have to compare amount of medals won to number of participants for each country. Otherwise it's seems like you trying to claim all these 319 millions of Americans were working solely for Olympic Gold medals so as all other countries you listed here :loco:

Idiot teenager. You can compare countries only by contribution per capita in sports. It is true for economy etc... For example: India is wealthier than Switzerland in absolute terms (amount of total GDP), however India is beggar in GDP / capita.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Yeah and? We are a pretty small country, and don't start wars, and I don't think that is not 'Contributing'. Most dairy imports in Europe come from Ireland.

Some of the greatest writers in the world were Irish people, (such as James Joyce and Bram Stoker) and they also have the some of the worlds best singers and bands. I love the lilt in Irish peoples voices, it's beautiful. :)

If people like Oliver Cromwell (there was a rebellion against Cromwell in my original home county of Dorset and he attacked the people in my home county) hadn't scorched the fields in Ireland which led to a big famine and genocide of people in Ireland, and if the British aristocracy hadn't treated the Irish so badly then the people there would have had more chances in life, but sadly the Irish were suffering and they were probably trying to focus on surviving, which was the fault of the British aristocracy.

Despite all these problems, there's been a lot of influential writers and singers and musicians from Ireland. :thumb001:

Insecure people go around slandering other countries people as they're complexed, shallow, insecure and rude. Irish people don't behave like this as they're mostly peaceful, intelligent, polite and charming, and naturally beautiful with a lot of attractive qualities to them, both internally and externally. Every Irish person I met has been lovely.

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http://i.picasion.com/resize79/09ef2c7cd7b41ffe2aef933faf9dc168.jpg
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http://i.picasion.com/resize79/e2a150c02ec86843947db4834d7dbf29.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFW9QH50QB4

[Stears]

Some of the greatest writers in the world were Irish people, (such as James Joyce and Bram Stoker) and they also have the some of the worlds best singers and bands. I love the lilt in Irish peoples voices, it's beautiful. :)

If people like Oliver Cromwell (there was a rebellion against Cromwell in my original home county of Dorset and he attacked the people in my home county) hadn't scorched the fields in Ireland which led to a big famine and genocide of people in Ireland, and if the British aristocracy hadn't treated the Irish so badly then the people there would have had more chances in life, but sadly the Irish were suffering and they were probably trying to focus on surviving, which was the fault of the British aristocracy.

Despite all these problems, there's been a lot of influential writers and singers and musicians from Ireland. :thumb001:

Ireland has infertile land like the UK. It is enough only for sheeps and grass (and weak bad quality vegetables)

[Minesweeper]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

Hungary: 167 Olimpics Gold Medal for 9.8 M population (RATIO: 17 gold medals for a million people)

USA nly 967 Gold Medals for 319 Million population (RATIO: 3 gold medals for a million people)

Britain: only 236 Gold Medals for 64 Million population (RATIO: 3,68 gold medals for a million people)

France: only 202 Gold Medals for 66 Million population (RATIO: 3 gold medal for a million people)

Russia: only 133 Gold Medals for 144 Million population (RATIO: 0,923 gold medal for a million people)

Italy: Only 198 Golden Medals for 60 Million (RATIO: 3,3 gold medal for a million people)
AND FINALLY GERMANY (good rsults, but even very far from Hungarian ratio) 547 GErman gold Medals for 80 Million population (RATIO: 6,83 gold medal for a million people)

You might as well add to your calculation that Russian number refers to 5 Summer Olympic games and excludes Russian Empire and Soviet Union. Therefore, you should multiply Russian gold medals by 5 to compare it to other countries that participated 25 or more times at Summer Olympics to make things even.

[Jana]

Olympics Water sports are not based on Sea. Even great rivers are better for the various rower sports than the sea. We are famous SPA country since the medieval age, Hungary had more pools than bigger countries. Budapest and great cities have traditional SPA and swimming pool cities, so the conditions fro swimming sports were traditionally good. Croatia had Sea coast since 1920. The adriatic coast of Hungary had traditionally italian cities and population since the dark ages. Later slavic people migrated there. Did you know that even your capital city Zagreb was Hungarian city before the mongol invasion?

First of all, Hungarians and Croats are friends, and culture is close. So hopefully it stays that way, but people who have pretensions on Croatian teritory are not tolerated. Croatia had coast since Croats arrived on Adriatic, in 7th century. Look up red Croatia map. (and do not forget, Croats accepted Christianity and had kingdom before Hungarians)
Croatia in 9th century, inhabited by Croats! (just like Zagreb, which was made free Royal town by Bela IV, but that's it)
http://i.imgur.com/7LVXr8N.png
Venetian nobility always lived in Dalmatia, and some old remining Romanized Illyrians, but only in cities and their number was small. It was never Italian or Hungarian coast, never. Croatia never lost it's continuity, because it entered union with Hungary on it's own will (as subjugated partner though, I have to be fair), we always had our ban and parliament, unlike Czechia, Slovenia, Slovakia and Romania. Italians, Ottomas and later Serbs always tried to get a piece of Croatia but never sucedeed. So my friend, remember Croats are not your enemies. But we are not servants to anyone and never will be. Remeber what happened to Khuen-Héderváry when we tried to Magyarize Croatia. I write this as someone who likes Hungarians, because my family lived in Hungary before , and contrinuted to your country. It's off-topic but truth needs to be known.

PS this thread may be closed. Saying Noridc countries are inferior is laughable, because usually, people who see others as inferior are inferior themslef.

[Stears]

You might as well add to your calculation that Russian number refers to 5 Summer Olympic games and excludes Russian Empire and Soviet Union. Therefore, you should multiply Russian gold medals by 5 to compare it to other countries that participated 25 or more times at Summer Olympics to make things even.

Hungary was excluded many olympic games. As you can see it does not matter for Hungarians :)))

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Prove it dipshit.

[Stears]

First of all, Hungarians and Croats are friends, and culture is close. So hopefully it stays that way, but people who have pretensions on Croatian teritory are not tolerated. Croatia had coast since Croats arrived on Adriatic, in 7th century. Look up red Croatia map. (and do not forget, Croats accepted Christianity and had kingdom before Hungarians)
Croatia in 9th century, inhabited by Croats! (just like Zagreb, which was made free Royal town by Bela IV, but that's it)
http://i.imgur.com/7LVXr8N.png
Venetian nobility always lived in Dalmatia, and some old remining Romanized Illyrians, but only in cities and their number was small. It was never Italian or Hungarian coast, never. Croatia never lost it's continuity, because it entered union with Hungary on it's own will (as subjugated partner though, I have to be fair), we always had our ban and parliament, unlike Czechia, Slovenia, Slovakia and Romania. Italians, Ottomas and later Serbs always tried to get a piece of Croatia but never sucedeed. So my friend, remember Croats are not your enemies. But we are not servants to anyone and never will be. Remeber what happened to Khuen-Héderváry when we tried to Magyarize Croatia. I write this as someone who likes Hungarians, because my family lived in Hungary before , and contrinuted to your country. It's off-topic but truth needs to be known.

PS this thread may be closed. Saying Noridc countries are inferior is laughable, because usually, people who see others as inferior are inferior themslef.

King Ladislaus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladislaus_I_of_Hungary) founded the Zagreb bishopric. It was not a real settlement before that. It was originally an ecclesiastical city, what give it its importance, and later its population. The Cathedral was consecrated in 1217, but later in 1242 it was badly damaged by the Mongol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol) raids. After 1263 it was restored and rebuilt by King Bela IV (and resettled the population with Croatians..)

[Stears]

Hungary (pink) and Croatia (green) Halics and Ráma vassal states. http://dka.oszk.hu/020600/020609/01_036_nagykep.jpg

[Stears]

Ethnic map with majority populations in the 11th century. <br><br>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Hungary_11th_cent.png

[ius semper]

The netherlands and flanders experienced a cultural renaissance by more or less the same time of the italian cities.

They belonged to the spanish empire by then

[Minesweeper]

Hungary was excluded many olympic games. As you can see it does not matter for Hungarians :)))

But you participated 25 times and Russia participated only 5.

[ius semper]

Inb4 a borreby ubermensch comes in and bodyslams every gracile med on this thread.

Honestly, if you care anything about white/European preservation, we should all band together against the plagues from the east. Northern vs Southern Nordic vs Mediterranean Slavic vs Germanic is all just dividing us even more.
I hope some of you heard the term 'no more brothers war'.

Atlantid brother from spain here

[Stears]

In the reality, the Croats got enormous depopulated Hungarian lands from king Bela IV after the mongol invasion.

[Stears]

But you participated 25 times and Russia participated only 5.

Wrong. Russia participated since the beginnings. All medals during communism and Czarism were included in the numbers. Only the winners of the past -who were born in the territory of modern Russia- were counted as russians. Who were not russians but ukrainians or belorussians etc... were counted into the winners of their modern home countries. So these are the real russian gold medals since 1896!

[Balmung]

It's stupid, but I wouldn't say as stupid. We have historical basis for superiority. All they have is BUT MUH ECONOMY...

Italy is the only southern nation that holds a candle to England in terms of raw output of technology, and England still wins in that match up. Lost my shit at Furnace post. :lol:

[Stears]

England was not so relevant in science and technology since 1890s. Deal with it.

[Minesweeper]

Wrong. Russia participated since the beginnings. All medals during communism and Czarism were included in the numbers. Only the winners of the past -who were born in the territory of modern Russia- were counted as russians. Who were not russians but ukrainians or belorussians etc... were counted into the winners of their modern home countries. So these are the real russian gold medals since 1896!

No they are not, you made this up in the moment. A real aristocrat and Hungarian shouldn't lie like this, don't you think?

[Stears]

You might as well add to your calculation that Russian number refers to 5 Summer Olympic games and excludes Russian Empire and Soviet Union. Therefore, you should multiply Russian gold medals by 5 to compare it to other countries that participated 25 or more times at Summer Olympics to make things even.
Both Serbia and Russia are weak in olympics sport and science. Deal with it.

[Minesweeper]

Both Serbia and Russia are weak in olympics sport and science. Deal with it.

Alright. Why are you a liar?

[Insuperable]

U Both R InferIoR

That must be why you are spending time on this forum + butthurt.

[Stears]

Alright. Why are you a liar?

Why are you liar? Serbia is weak in olympics. How many scientific Nobel awards have Serbia and Russia? :))))))))

[Insuperable]

First of all, Hungarians and Croats are friends, and culture is close. So hopefully it stays that way, but people who have pretensions on Croatian teritory are not tolerated. Croatia had coast since Croats arrived on Adriatic, in 7th century. Look up red Croatia map. (and do not forget, Croats accepted Christianity and had kingdom before Hungarians)
Croatia in 9th century, inhabited by Croats! (just like Zagreb, which was made free Royal town by Bela IV, but that's it)
http://i.imgur.com/7LVXr8N.png
Venetian nobility always lived in Dalmatia, and some old remining Romanized Illyrians, but only in cities and their number was small. It was never Italian or Hungarian coast, never. Croatia never lost it's continuity, because it entered union with Hungary on it's own will (as subjugated partner though, I have to be fair), we always had our ban and parliament, unlike Czechia, Slovenia, Slovakia and Romania. Italians, Ottomas and later Serbs always tried to get a piece of Croatia but never sucedeed. So my friend, remember Croats are not your enemies. But we are not servants to anyone and never will be. Remeber what happened to Khuen-Héderváry when we tried to Magyarize Croatia. I write this as someone who likes Hungarians, because my family lived in Hungary before , and contrinuted to your country. It's off-topic but truth needs to be known.

PS this thread may be closed. Saying Noridc countries are inferior is laughable, because usually, people who see others as inferior are inferior themslef.

Jesu li Kotorski Hrvati (Bokelji) na tome oznacenome dijelicu tu od Srednjega Vijeka?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croats_of_Boka_Kotorska

[Minesweeper]

Why are you liar? Serbia is weak in olympics. How many scientific Nobel awards have Serbia and Russia? :))))))))

I don't know.

Tell me, why do you make things up? Some sort of Gypsy tactic when you are beaten by arguments I guess.

[Stears]

I don't know.

Tell me, why do you make things up? Some sort of Gypsy tactic when you are beaten by arguments I guess.
A man from -a gypsy look average dark pigmented country, with wird less european balkanic genetic make-up, and eurasian (semi asian) orthodox "culture" mentions gypsies? Laughable. Your byzantinist attitude is similar to gypsy attitude. In Balkan fashion, lies are considered virtue and to cheat someone is a glory. It would be a mistake to believe that these acts would cause some sort of remorse.

[Minesweeper]

A man from -a gypsy look average dark pigmented country, with wird less european balkanic genetic make-up, and eurasian (semi asian) orthodox "culture" mentions gypsies? Laughable.

You act like one, you can write some stupid things I don't mind but why are you a pathological liar?

Btw, you're a wog, you like to seem white but you are not.

[Stears]

You act like one, you can write some stupid things I don't mind but why are you a pathological liar?

Btw, you're a wog, you like to seem white but you are not.

See the haplogroup markers in the largest genetic database and CHART of European nations:



http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

And see the high ratio of middle-eastern haplogroup markers (various „J”) and african negroid (E1b1) in all balkan populations (inc. Romania). De facto, these nations populations genetically are less European than Hungarians.


Do not forget that vast majority of balkan population is not only genetically but anthropogically less white (average darker eye and hair color, skin tone) so-called „WOG” people. Just type in google image searcher: „eye color map” , „hair color map”.


Skin tone map:
http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/Map_of_skin_hue_equi.png


Hair color map
http://uclahealthservices.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/hair_color_map_europe.png


Eye color map:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ilng4Lm9CI0/UKoaYrEoD_I/AAAAAAAAATw/8NebRqUEAOk/s1600/eyecolour.png

[Stears]

Serbia (like balkanite countries) weird genes, swarthy look, semi-asian orthodox "culture".

[Stears]

Serbs have even mongoloid inflection : 3,5% mongoloid markers... Q and N1C1...

[Morena]

I wish people would stop making threads like this. I don't care if it's against southern euros or northern euros. With all the crap that is happening in the world today, with our cultures up against the wall, and with our heritage and ancestry maligned, you'd think that it would be time to burry the hatchet and combat the rot together. But no, people would rather piss and moan about who did what to whom and ranges of hair color and whatnot. :picard1:

Maybe europe deserves to die. :(

[Minesweeper]

Serbia (like balkanite countries) weird genes, swarthy look, semi-asian orthodox "culture".

You're a wog, you take pics under the certain light like Gigolo to look whiter. Who cares what you think.

[Stears]

I wish people would stop making threads like this. I don't care if it's against southern euros or northern euros. With all the crap that is happening in the world today, with our cultures up against the wall, and with our heritage and ancestry maligned, you'd think that it would be time to burry the hatchet and combat the rot together. But no, people would rather piss and moan about who did what to whom and ranges of hair color and whatnot. :picard1:

Maybe europe deserves to die. :(

Cuba? Latino-america? It does not belong to the western civilization.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Clash_of_Civilizations_map.png

[Stears]

You're a wog, you take pics under the certain light like Gigolo to look whiter. Who cares what you think, wog.



You are a wog. Black hair olive skin and dark eyes are normal in your country, while these mean foreign ancestry in Hungary.

[Sarmatian]

Idiot teenager.

Is that the way Hungarians greeting people older than themselves? Interesting.


You can compare countries only by contribution per capita in sports. It is true for economy etc... For example: India is wealthier than Switzerland in absolute terms (amount of total GDP), however India is beggar in GDP / capita.

Here is how statistics works: lets say Russia sent a team of 20 to Olympics while Hungary had team of 10. That means chances are Russia will win twice as many medals regardless of population differences. Hungary can increase its chances of winning by simply sending more athletes 'per capita' to the games. Thus calculating medals per capita makes no sense at all.

[Morena]

Cuba? Latino-america? It does not belong to the western civilization.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Clash_of_Civilizations_map.png

I'm not Cuban. I wasn't born there and I wasn't raised there. I don't live there. I am an American. My parents both arrived as children legally and were naturalized. Three quarters of my grandparents were first generation Cubans, with very close ties to Spain.

I was brought up to be proud of my Spanish European heritage, which is now under attack by various forces and your bickering and arguing doesn't help and will do the exact opposite. It's actually sad that someone like me, an 'outsider' has to point this out to someone like you.

[Stears]

Is that the way Hungarians greeting people older than themselves? Interesting.



Here is how statistics works: lets say Russia sent a team of 20 to Olympics while Hungary had team of 10. That means chances are Russia will win twice as many medals regardless of population differences. Hungary can increase its chances of winning by simply sending more athletes 'per capita' to the games. Thus calculating medals per capita makes no sense at all.

Wrong. "sending more athletes" You are laughable. You can send only limited athletes, who are fit in the qualification expectations. Hungarian sportmen have many chance to admit to the games (because they were good sportmen in international level)

[Sarmatian]

Both Serbia and Russia are weak in olympics sport and science. Deal with it.

Oh really? So the inventor of pretty much entire electrical field Nicola Tesla was Hungarian? What a surprise!

Also it must be Hungary sending all those rockets into space and piling up the largest stock of nuclear weapons. It's Hungary supplying Russia with most advanced nuclear power technology of today. Oh wait, nvm... :rolleyes:

:laugh:

[LightHouse89]

This quite funny, Northern Europe developed on it's own. Britain was for example far ahead and still than most South European nations. Not to mention Finland worked hard for it's standard of living and did not have colonies to exploit others, and so on.

:cool: This is why I like middle easterners. They have always respected Germanics.

[Stears]

Oh really? So the inventor of pretty much entire electrical field Nicola Tesla was Hungarian? What a surprise!

Also it must be Hungary sending all those rockets into space and piling up the largest stock of nuclear weapons. It's Hungary supplying Russia with most advanced nuclear power technology of today. Oh wait, nvm... :rolleyes:

:laugh:

What was really invented by Tesla? Nikola Tesla is a popular figure in conspiracy culture. A lone genius who apparently invented everything we use today, and who was on the brink of discovering free energy when his work was brutally suppressed by the government.

It's not even just a conspiracy culture thing, the cult of Tesla extends into mainstream geek culture. In today's world of infotainment, web pages and documentaries have popped up proclaiming Nikola (Nicola) Tesla of being the inventor of practically everything. The more sites that pop up, the more reinforced false facts become. This is wrong because it denies respect for the true inventors of the technology, as well as over simplifies history. Just as people incorrectly understood what Edison actually did and believed in a simplified idolization, Tesla seems to have taken his populist place in the 21st century. Tesla suffered from narcissism through much of his life, and this throws many of his claims of being "the first" into question. We can only believe patent information, court transcripts and proven written records.

Didn't your mother tell you not to believe everything you read on the internet? So before you go back to the Tesla mania pages we suggest you go to a library and dig up some facts from books and patent applications, just as real historians have.
Sorry to debunk your inner conspiracy theorist yearnings, but here are the facts:



http://www.edisontechcenter.org/tesladebunked.html

[LightHouse89]

Yet all of the modern monarchs of europe and even in the pre revolution europe were Germanics primarily.

:rolleyes:

Yes Northern peoples are inferior. What language are we speaking?

[Stears]

Myth 1: Tesla invented polyphase AC power: FALSE. First there was a hand-cranked AC generator developed by Hippolyte Pixii in 1832. Single phase AC power was being used more in Europe by many inventors in the early 1880s. As early as the late 1870's Germany had developed a 2 phase AC generator. In New York City Tesla had approached investors in 1886 with his AC system and did not have success. So in the United States in New York there was little confidence in AC power systems. From a world wide perspective there was many working on AC systems. August Haselwander and C.S. Bradley(a former Edison employee) created the first 3 phase AC generators(1887). Mikhail Dolivo-Dobrovsky built the first full 3 phase AC generation and distribution system in the 1888-1891 period. Tesla continued to be stuck in his two-phase system which proved to be less effective than three.


Myth 2: Tesla invented the transformer: FALSE. The Ganz company in Budapest was the first to create and use transformers in AC systems in the late 1870s.Tesla was still in school then and hadn't even began his first job in the field of telephony. His first job was in Budapest in 1880, this is where he possibly observed/stole ideas, and was convinced by the Hungarians that AC was viable and worth pursuing while the west was still 5 years behind. William Stanley invented the first modern transformer in 1885 (http://www.edisontechcenter.org/Transformers.html). His design was based Gaulard and Gibbs design. Gaulard had used his transformer in the 1884 Lanzo to Turin AC power demonstration. Also credit goes to the Z.B.D Transformer (http://www.edisontechcenter.org/Transformers.html) in Hungary The Z.B.D. Transformer was not practical in the system that Stanley set up in Great Barrington, MA so he designed his own. This is backed up by information at the Smithsonian and IEEE. It was in 1885 that Tesla actually joined the minority of inventors working with AC in trying to pitch his system. There is no proof that Tesla had any mature AC systems designed and ready before then. (Tesla claims to have envisioned his own full AC system in 1882 but there are no written documents of any kind to prove this)



Myth 3: Tesla invented the induction coil: FALSE. Absolutely false... Induction was discovered by Michael Faraday, and the induction coil was invented by Nicholas Callan in 1836, long before Tesla was born.


Myth 4: Tesla invented the loudspeaker: FALSE. The loudspeaker as we know it was invented by C.W. Rice and Edward Kellogg (http://www.edisontechcenter.org/CWrice.html) with a working prototype in 1921, and patent in 1925. Decades before this final success, Werner Von Siemens had toyed with the idea of a magnetically controlled speaker while Tesla was in grade school.

Myth 5: Tesla invented radar in 1917: FALSE. This one is a real can of worms, radar was made possible due to the work of Christian Hulsmeyer (German)1903, Lee De Forest 1918, Edwin Armstrong 1918, Ernst Alexanderson (http://www.edisontechcenter.org/alexanderson.html), Marconi, Albert Hull (http://www.edisontechcenter.org/Hull.html), Edward Victor Appleton, and Russians who developed a radar system to detect German planes in 1934. Sir Robert Watson-Watt demonstrated the first HF radar system in 1935 which operated at 6 MHz and had a range of 8 miles. There are many books on this subject.


Myth 6: Tesla invented the fluorescent lamp: FALSE. Alexandre E. Becquerel first examined the phenomena of fluorescence in 1857. Some say Edison invented the lamps. Others say George Inman (http://www.edisontechcenter.org/fourescentlampdev.html) developed the modern fluorescent lamp in 1934. It is tough to say who was first since there was a legal dispute. There is a possibility that the German Edmund Germer preceded both of them. Many people worked on the concept, Inman deserve the credit for building the first successful and practical design. Even if Telsa had played with the theories, he was not alone at any time, and didn't do squat compared to others who had actually worked out the difficulties into a real working product. Daniel McFarlan Moore developed the Moore Tube which was the first commercial ancestor of the fluorescent lamp.

[LightHouse89]

It's stupid, but I wouldn't say as stupid. We have historical basis for superiority. All they have is BUT MUH ECONOMY...

Yet the Normans ruled Sicily where as the Sicilians never ruled Normans :p

[Stears]

Myth 7: Tesla invented microwave transmitters: FALSE. Albert W. Hull invented a type of magnetron which lead to many inventions, including today's microwave oven, the microwave communications link, and radar. You can dig deeper on this and find many early pioneers even before Albert Hull.



Myth 8: The 1895 Niagara Falls Hydropower Plant was the first commercial AC hydro power plant: FALSE. This is absolutely false. AC power sites were developed first in Europe from 1878-1885. After 1885 Westinghouse hired Stanley, Oliver Shallenberger, Benjamin Lamme, and others to build AC power systems in North America. Tesla didn't join Westinghouse until 1888. See our list of early AC power sites here (http://www.edisontechcenter.org/HistElectPowTrans.html).
The Redlands Power Plant build in 1893 (http://www.edisontechcenter.org/Redlands.html) was the first 3 phase AC power plant built for commercial purposes in North America. Elihu Thomson, Almirian Decker and Dr. ,Louis Bell worked together to design this site a few years before in Lynn, Massachusetts. Dobrovsky had build the first full hydroelectric three phase AC power system at Frankfurt in 1891 (http://www.edisontechcenter.org/LauffenFrankfurt.html). Also, at the time Charles P. Steinmetz was the only one to understand the concept of hysteresis and related physics concepts that helped run the AC generator. Steinmetz was a humble man, and like many technical men, loved teaching and connecting to other humans just as much as the technology. People with a teaching spirit have often let others take the fame and patents. Fame and business success are the focus of only a percentage of engineers. The love of the craft is common among all of them.

Myth 9: Tesla was the underdog who did not promote himself: FALSE.
If you begin to read at all about history of technology at the time you will find that inventions and ideas spread like wildfire from as far east as Hungary and Moscow, to the U.S. For someone like Edison or Tesla it was important to keep up the show and wizardry to captivate the public. And they both did that very well. In the ruthlessly competitive environment of New York City the game was, (and still is) about fame/success at any cost. Tesla, when living on Fifth Avenue was at the epicenter of this pressure. Tesla was business natured, he understood he had to relentlessly promote himself to become like the more successful Edison. Most inventors at the time did not have the relentless need for attention that both of them had.


Myth 10: Back in the late 1800's the conflict for AC vs. DC was Tesla vs. Edison, or Westinghouse vs. General Electric: FALSE.
General Electric was formed in 1892 and by that time Thomas Edison had a minimal role in the workings of the company. While Edison promoted DC power from his home down in New Jersey/New York City area, Elihu Thomson, William Stanley, and C.P. Steinmetz promoted AC as the future. The company was not "for DC". Tesla and Edison did not get along, that's true... but of course! Popular media likes to promote the AC vs. DC conflict in a simple easy-to-digest package simply because all the Mass Communication majors and journalists have been taught that the public loves to watch and read about conflict. One page reads: "Edison also hated Tesla because Tesla invented..." and so on, the quote highlights once again the conflict aspect. If conflict and drama is your focus of interest, than study the World Wrestling Federation, not engineering.

More Controversy: Who invented the polyphase electric motor?: Tesla was first to patent the 3 phase AC motor in the USA 1888, but read on: Galileo Ferraris (http://www.edisontechcenter.org/GalileoFerraris.html) had come up with the same design months before in Italy. Ferraris was a university professor with no interest in making money from the invention. We know that Tesla was extremely intelligent and was able to memorize entire books after reading them. It is entirely possible that Tesla had obtained a copy of Ferraris's publication to the Royal Academy of Sciences in Turin and was able to understand Ferraris's design. He would be able to copy and clarify the design on paper and submit that to the patent office with the help of Tesla's well-paid team of lawyers. If this was the case than it is just another case of how businessmen with their well paid lawyers have crushed an academic person's claim on being the first. History was almost rewritten here but documents have proven Galileo's claim. Tesla had no evidence to support his self-made claim that he envisioned the motor in 1882. In addition to this Mr. Ferraris had a track record of being an innovator in the greatest events of European AC development in the early 1880's. Tesla had limited experience in AC and was not picked up by Westinghouse until 1888, after his claim of inventing a three phase motor.

[Jana]

Jesu li Kotorski Hrvati (Bokelji) na tome oznacenome dijelicu tu od Srednjega Vijeka?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croats_of_Boka_Kotorska

Neznam točno, mislim da su oni tamo autohtoni, oduvijek. Jeli to točno ili?

Stears' map is not entirely correct, because Slavonia is counted as Hungarian in it (bacause Ladislav conquered it, since Croatian nobles where fighting between themselfs, and he faced no real opposition in there). I haven't heard Hungarians inhabited Zagreb and Panonnian Croatia as majority, feel free to prove it differently. It would be weird if Croats claimed huge part of modern Central Europe is some kind of our legacy (because White Croatia was spread over Poland, Slovakia etc...)

Croatia was never Hungary, read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacta_conventa_(Croatia)

Serbian state also shouldn't claim Nikola Tesla as their own archivement, he was born and educated in Croatia and later Austria. Yes he was a Serb, but Croatia was his homeland. (he visited Serbia only once in his life)

We should focus on present and our own archivements. I'm off to study, peace. Don't bash the nordics:thumb001:

[Sockorer]

Yet all of the modern monarchs of europe and even in the pre revolution europe were Germanics primarily.

:rolleyes:

Yes Northern peoples are inferior. What language are we speaking?

Yea it's funny most of Western Europe's Aristocracy was Germanic in origin, yet you see these half wops claiming their overlords are inferior to them.

[Stears]

Neznam točno, mislim da su oni tamo autohtoni, oduvijek. Jeli to točno ili?

Stears' map is not entirely correct, because Slavonia is counted as Hungarian in it (bacause Ladislav conquered it, since Croatian nobles where fighting between themselfs, and he faced no real opposition in there). I haven't heard Hungarians inhabited Zagreb and Panonnian Croatia as majority, feel free to prove it differently. It would be weird if Croats claimed huge part of modern Central Europe is some kind of our legacy (because White Croatia was spread over Poland, Slovakia etc...)

Croatia was never Hungary, read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacta_conventa_(Croatia)

Serbian state also shouldn't claim Nikola Tesla as their own archivement, he was born and educated in Croatia and later Austria. Yes he was a Serb, but Croatia was his homeland. (he visited Serbia only once in his life)

We should focus on present and our own archivements. I'm off to study, peace. Don't bash the nordics:thumb001:

Hungary under saint Stephen I, 1000AD.


http://stiefelbolt.hu/shop_ordered/9094/shop_pic/big/D121.jpg?time=1415120267

[Sarmatian]

What was really invented by Tesla? Nikola Tesla is a popular figure in conspiracy culture. A lone genius who apparently invented everything we use today, and who was on the brink of discovering free energy when his work was brutally suppressed by the government.

It's not even just a conspiracy culture thing, the cult of Tesla extends into mainstream geek culture. In today's world of infotainment, web pages and documentaries have popped up proclaiming Nikola (Nicola) Tesla of being the inventor of practically everything. The more sites that pop up, the more reinforced false facts become. This is wrong because it denies respect for the true inventors of the technology, as well as over simplifies history. Just as people incorrectly understood what Edison actually did and believed in a simplified idolization, Tesla seems to have taken his populist place in the 21st century. Tesla suffered from narcissism through much of his life, and this throws many of his claims of being "the first" into question. We can only believe patent information, court transcripts and proven written records.

Didn't your mother tell you not to believe everything you read on the internet? So before you go back to the Tesla mania pages we suggest you go to a library and dig up some facts from books and patent applications, just as real historians have.
Sorry to debunk your inner conspiracy theorist yearnings, but here are the facts:



http://www.edisontechcenter.org/tesladebunked.html

You're funny guy. Why do you post all the 'Tesla myth' stuff when link you provided is enough? Is it supposed to enforce your point somehow?

Anyway, I'm very well aware of all the hype created around figure of Tesla and his works. Yet his real achievements and inventions are undeniable. All his patents are available for study and as a person with degree in physics I have enough knowledge to judge on it on my own. After all the unit of magnetic flux density was named after Tesla for a reason.

Going back to my original question - how about all the Hungarian-built rockets and nuclear reactors? Are you still going to insist they are better than Russian and Russia didn't really contributed anything to science?

[Minesweeper]

You are a wog. Black hair olive skin and dark eyes are normal in your country, while these mean foreign ancestry in Hungary.

Without light and camera effects you would pass for a lighter Gypsy.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

They belonged to the spanish empire by then
late 1300- and 1400?

[Stears]

You're funny guy. Why do you post all the 'Tesla myth' stuff when link you provided is enough? Is it supposed to enforce your point somehow?

Anyway, I'm very well aware of all the hype created around figure of Tesla and his works. Yet his real achievements and inventions are undeniable. All his patents are available for study and as a person with degree in physics I have enough knowledge to judge on it on my own. After all the unit of magnetic flux density was named after Tesla for a reason.

Going back to my original question - how about all the Hungarian-built rockets and nuclear reactors? Are you still going to insist they are better than Russian and Russia didn't really contributed anything to science?

Do not be idiot. The article named the real inventors and the dates of inventions. Those who hold the earliest pantents or who published the earliest articles about the inventions in scientific magazines, what we call as real proof before a judiciary process. All other things are just so-called TALES (myth).

[Stears]

Without light and camera effects you would pass for a lighter Gypsy.

Swarthy balkanite, I do not need effects, as all of my videos proved it. Do not forget: In Hungary the Balkan folks are called as traditionally "gypsy folks" due to their darker average pigmentation.

[Stears]

Yet all of the modern monarchs of europe and even in the pre revolution europe were Germanics primarily.

:rolleyes:

Yes Northern peoples are inferior. What language are we speaking?

English is a west germanic and not north germanic language.

[Minesweeper]

Swarthy balkanite, I do not need effects, as all of my videos proved it.

They proved it indeed. xD Not a very bright wog you are.

[LightHouse89]

Yea it's funny most of Western Europe's Aristocracy was Germanic in origin, yet you see these half wops claiming their overlords are inferior to them.

Thats why I dont believe in 'white powah'. I dont see wogs or easterlings necessarily as the same people as us. I never have actually.

Sadly the 'far right' in america does. Even more sadly we represent only 60% of the 'white america' if you know what I mean [not even 60% of the total population].

[LightHouse89]

English is a west germanic and not north germanic language.

Irrelevant. Germanics are Germanics. Although the Germans were right with Pan-Germanicism.

[Sarmatian]

Do not be idiot. The article named the real inventors and the dates of inventions. Those who hold the earliest pantents or who published the earliest articles about the inventions in scientific magazines, what we call as real proof before a judiciary process. All other things are just so-called TALES (myth).

The only idiot in this thread is you since you're trying to teach a physics scientist about physics :laugh:

And stop avoiding my question. Enlighten me about Hungarian rockets and reactors. Otherwise all you babbling in this thread suggest you're pathetic lying autistic maggot.

[Stears]

The only idiot in this thread is you since you're trying to teach a physics scientist about physics :laugh:

And stop avoiding my question. Enlighten me about Hungarian rockets and reactors. Otherwise all you babbling in this thread suggest you're pathetic lying autistic maggot.

You are a teenager, a self-appointed scientist. Nuclear chain reaction (The A. bomb) and N. reactor are Hungarian inventions. They were invented by Leo Szilárd (the creator of Manhattan project). Whitout him, there would be no nuclear weapons and nuclear power plants on this planet. (The lack of this knowledge proves that you are not scientist, just a teenager boy)

[Minesweeper]

You are a teenager, a self-appointed scientist. Nuclear chain reaction (The A. bomb) and N. reactor are Hungarian inventions. They were invented by Leo Szilárd (the creator of Manhattan project). Whitout him, there would be no nuclear weapons and nuclear power plants on this planet. (The lack of this knowledge proves that you are not scientist, just a teenager boy)

Leo Szilárd was a Jew, another failure little wog.

[Stears]

Leo Szilárd was a Jew, another failure little wog.

He was converted protestant, Jews in Hungary could not speak hebrew or Yiddish. His mother tongue was Hungarian, he went to protestant schools , he considered himself as Hungarian in his own biographies and own curriculum even after the foundation of israel. Unlike Tesla he invented important things and he was not a story teller and self-appointed inventor like tesla. HE could prove his inventions (publications in scientific magazines and books and with patents) So he was not liar like Tesla.

However it was impossible to be a serbian born inventor, because Serbia founded his first universities in the 19th century (Hungary founded the first in 1367), Serbia was not more developed than an asian french or british colony. Serbia was not industrialized, the urbanization lacked until the mid 20th century. (Belgrade the serbian capital city was not bigger than a rural Hungarian city Szeged in 1900) 70% of the population of serbia was illiterate in 1900. These backward primitive economic social and educational circumstances are not good for young talents and scientists.

[FeederOfRavens]

And South Europeans are superior!

I admit that Nordic people are very attractive, but we can't ignore the fact that South Europeans civilized them. Around 2000 years ago, when Europe was full of savages and hunters and gatherers, Greece had an advanced civilization. They had the best philosophers, scientists, and artists. Unfortunately, a few decades, Europe fell in the Dark Ages and the continent suffered from plagues, deaths, and diseases. In 1350s, Italian culture blossomed and slowly pulled itself into the Renaissance. All of Europe was so stunned by their accomplishments that they copied off of them...lol. During the Renaissance, Italians took Ancient Greek and Roman ideas and improved them greatly. Their arts, culture, science advanced greatly.

It took a while for north Europe to get out of the Middle Ages. In fact, they were never really civilized until recently (1500s). If it weren't for the South Europeans, North Europeans would still be living in the middle ages. So, that's why I think North European people have the beauty but South Europeans have the brains.

http://i.imgur.com/LdpGqZr.jpg

[dude]

Of course there are some inferior nordic people. But there are also lots of very smart and good looking nordid people. If fact nordic people have a significant percentage to contributions on beauty, art, sports, science and Engineering.

[Minesweeper]

He was converted protestant, Jews in Hungary could not speak hebrew or Yiddish. His mother tongue was Hungarian, he went to protestant schools , he considered himself as Hungarian in his own biographies and own curriculum even after the foundation of israel. Unlike Tesla he invented important things and he was not a story teller and self-appointed inventor like tesla. HE could prove his inventions (publications in scientific magazines and books and with patents) So he was not liar like Tesla.

However it was impossible to be a serbian born inventor, because Serbia founded his first universities in the 19th century (Hungary founded the first in 1367), Serbia was not more developed than an asian french or british colony. Serbia was not industrialized, the urbanization lacked until the mid 20th century. (Belgrade the serbian capital city was not bigger than a rural Hungarian city Szeged in 1900) 70% of the population of serbia was illiterate in 1900. These backward primitive economic social and educational circumstances are not good for young talents and scientists.

Tesla can beat all those Jews you offer as Hungarians here. Nothing original from you. Pathetic my Hungarian wog.

[Stears]

Tesla can beat all those Jews you offer as Hungarians here. Nothing original from you. Pathetic my Hungarian wog. Anthropologically they are not similar to Hungarians. (Why should be?) They are more similar to balkanites due to the high ratio of middle-eastern markers of balkan populations since around 10,000 BC.. They grew up in Hungarian culture, not as an ethnic minority but as assimilated people. Imagine their fate in the low colonial development level contemporary Serbia: They would have been only local grocer or grain merchant instead of scientist...

[Minesweeper]

Anthropologically they are not similar to Hungarians.

Only more successful.

[Stears]

Only more successful. 100% wrong. Read the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary article.

[Minesweeper]

100% wrong. Read the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary article.

I decide to randomly open one name and picked John von Neumann, checked ancestry, a Jew.

[Stears]

I decide to randomly open one name and picked John von Neumann, checked ancestry, a Jew.

Early education history The "Berg-Schola", the world's first institute of technology, was founded in Selmecbánya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selmecb%C3%A1nya), Kingdom of Hungary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Hungary)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-1) , in 1735. Its legal successor is the University of Miskolc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Miskolc) in Hungary.

BME University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_University_of_Technology_and_Economics) is considered[by whom? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Words_to_watch#Unsupported_attributions)] the world's oldest institute of technology which has university rank and structure. It was the first institute in Europe to train engineers at university level.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-2) The legal predecessor of the university was founded in 1782 by Emperor Joseph II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_II,_Holy_Roman_Emperor), and was named Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_language): Institutum Geometrico-Hydrotechnicum ("Institute of Geometry and Hydrotechnics").

The first steam engine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_engine) of continental Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe) was built in Újbánya - Kingdom of Hungary in 1722. It was a Newcomen type engine, it served on pumping water from mines.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-19)[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-20)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-21)[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-22)



Scientists and inventors Important names in the 18th century are Maximilian Hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Hell) (astronomer), János Sajnovics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_Sajnovics) (linguist), Matthias Bel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Bel) (polyhistor), Samuel Mikoviny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Mikoviny) (engineer) and Wolfgang von Kempelen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_von_Kempelen) (polyhistor and co-founder of comparative linguistics). Ányos Jedlik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81nyos_Jedlik) physicist and engineer invented the first electric motor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_motor)(1828), the dynamo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamo), the self-excitation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-excitation), the impulse generator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impulse_generator), and the cascade connection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_connection). Important name in 19th century physics is Joseph Petzval (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Petzval),one of the founders of modern optics. The invention of the transformer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer) (by Ottó Bláthy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ott%C3%B3_Bl%C3%A1thy) Miksa Déri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miksa_D%C3%A9ri) and Károly Zipernowsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1roly_Zipernowsky)), the AC electricity meter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_meter) and the electricity distribution systems with parallel-connected power sources decided the future of electrification in the War of Currents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents), which resulted in the global triumph of alternate current systems over the former direct current systems. Roland von Eötvös (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_von_E%C3%B6tv%C3%B6s) discovered the weak equivalence principle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_equivalence_principle) (one of the cornerstones in Einsteinian relativity). Rado von Kövesligethy (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rado_von_K%C3%B6vesligethy&action=edit&redlink=1) discovered laws of black body radiation before Planck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck) and Wien (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wien).[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-3)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-4) Hungary is famous for its excellent mathematics education (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics_education) which has trained numerous outstanding scientists. Famous Hungarian mathematicians include father Farkas Bolyai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farkas_Bolyai) and son János Bolyai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_Bolyai), designer of modern geometry (non-Euclidian geometry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Euclidian_geometry)) 1820–1823. János Bolyai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_Bolyai) is together with John von Neumann (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_Neumann) considered as the greatest Hungarian mathematician ever. The most prestigious Hungarian scientific award is named in honor of János Bolyai. Paul Erdős (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erd%C5%91s), famed for publishing in over forty languages and whose Erdős numbers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s_number) are still tracked;[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-HunInvent-5) and John von Neumann (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_Neumann), Quantum Theory, Game theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory) a pioneer of digital computing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_computing) and the key mathematician in the Manhattan Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project). Many Hungarian scientists, including Zoltán Bay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolt%C3%A1n_Bay), Victor Szebehely (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Szebehely) (gave a practical solution to the three-body problem, Newton solved the two-body problem), Mária Telkes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A1ria_Telkes), Imre Izsak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imre_Izsak), Erdős, von Neumann, Leó Szilárd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le%C3%B3_Szil%C3%A1rd), Eugene Wigner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Wigner) and Edward Teller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller) emigrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States) to the US. The other cause of scientist emigration was the Treaty of Trianon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Trianon), by which Hungary, diminished by the treaty, became unable to support large-scale, costly scientific research; therefore[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] some Hungarian scientists made valuable contributions in the United States. Thirteen Hungarian or Hungarian-born scientists received the Nobel Prize: von Lenárd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_Lenard), Bárány (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B3bert_B%C3%A1r%C3%A1ny), Zsigmondy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Adolf_Zsigmondy), von Szent-Györgyi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Szent-Gyorgyi), de Hevesy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_de_Hevesy), von Békésy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_von_B%C3%A9k%C3%A9sy), Wigner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Wigner), Gábor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Gabor), Polányi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Charles_Polanyi), Oláh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Andrew_Olah), Harsányi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harsanyi), and Herskó (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avram_Hershko). All emigrated, mostly because of persecution of communist and/or fascist regimes.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] Names in psychology are János Selye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_Selye) founder of Stress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_%28psychological%29)-theory and Csikszentmihalyi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Csikszentmihalyi) founder of Flow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_%28psychology%29)- theory. Tamás Roska (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tam%C3%A1s_Roska&action=edit&redlink=1) is co-inventor of CNN (Cellular neural network (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_neural_network)) Some highly actual internationally well-known figures of today include: mathematician László Lovász (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3_Lov%C3%A1sz), physicist Albert-László Barabási (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert-L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3_Barab%C3%A1si), physicist Ferenc Krausz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Krausz), biochemist Árpád Pusztai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81rp%C3%A1d_Pusztai) and the highly controversial former NASA-physicist Ferenc Miskolczi (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ferenc_Miskolczi&action=edit&redlink=1), who denies the green-house effect.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-6) According to Science Watch: In Hadron research Hungary has most citations per paper in the world.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-7) In 2011 neuroscientists György Buzsáki (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gy%C3%B6rgy_Buzs%C3%A1ki&action=edit&redlink=1), Tamás Freund (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tam%C3%A1s_Freund&action=edit&redlink=1) and Péter Somogyi (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=P%C3%A9ter_Somogyi&action=edit&redlink=1) were awarded one million Euro with The Brain Prize ("Danish Nobel Prize")" for ".. brain circuits involved in memory..."[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-8)




The English word "coach" came from the Hungarian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_language) kocsi ("wagon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon) from Kocs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kocs)" referring to the village in Hungary where coaches were first made).[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-9)[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-10)
Wolfgang von Kempelen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_von_Kempelen) invented a manually operated speaking machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_von_Kempelen%27s_Speaking_Machine) in 1769.
János Irinyi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_Irinyi) invented the noiseless match (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match).
In 1827 Ányos Jedlik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81nyos_Jedlik) invented the electric motor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_motor). He created the first device to contain the three main components of practical direct current (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_current) motors: the stator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stator), rotor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armature_%28electrical_engineering%29) and commutator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutator_%28electric%29). He built the first generator which used, instead of permanent magnets, two electromagnets opposite to each other to induce the magnetic field around the rotor.[1][2] It was also the discovery of the principle of "dynamo self-excitation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-excitation)"
David Schwarz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Schwarz_%28aviation_inventor%29) invented and designed the first flyable rigid airship (aluminium-made). Later, he sold his patent for German Graf Zeppelin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZ_127_Graf_Zeppelin), who built the so-called Zeppelin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin) airship.
Donát Bánki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%C3%A1t_B%C3%A1nki) and János Csonka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_Csonka) invented the Carburetor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carburetor).
Ottó Bláthy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ott%C3%B3_Bl%C3%A1thy), Miksa Déri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miksa_D%C3%A9ri) and Károly Zipernowsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1roly_Zipernowsky) invented the modern transformer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer) in 1885.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-iec.ch-11)[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-iec.ch-11)
Ottó Bláthy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ott%C3%B3_Bl%C3%A1thy) invented the Turbogenerator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbogenerator) and Wattmeter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattmeter).
Kálmán Kandó (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1lm%C3%A1n_Kand%C3%B3) invented the Three-phase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-phase_electric_power) Alternating Current (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternating_Current) Electric locomotive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_locomotive), and was a pioneer in the development of electric railway traction.
Tivadar Puskás (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivadar_Pusk%C3%A1s) invented the Telephone Exchange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_Exchange).
Dezső Korda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dezs%C5%91_Korda) invented the Rotating Capacitor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_capacitor) (Tuning Capacitor).
József Galamb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zsef_Galamb) was the inventor of many parts of the Ford Model T (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_T) and co-developer of the assembly line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_line)
Sándor Just (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A1ndor_Just) invented the Tungsten electric bulb (1904)
Imre Bródy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imre_Br%C3%B3dy) invented the krypton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krypton) electric bulb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bulb).
Loránd Eötvös (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lor%C3%A1nd_E%C3%B6tv%C3%B6s): weak equivalence principle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_equivalence_principle) and surface tension (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_tension)
Kálmán Tihanyi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1lm%C3%A1n_Tihanyi): Invented and described the "charge-storage" physical phenomena, a pioneer in developing Electronic Television and camera-tube (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_television) (1926) and invented the Plasma TV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_TV) (1936) and Infrared camera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_camera) (1929).
József Mihályi (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J%C3%B3zsef_Mih%C3%A1lyi&action=edit&redlink=1) was co-designer or designer and inventor for KODAK the following cameras: Kodak Ekstra (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kodak_Ekstra&action=edit&redlink=1), Kodak Medalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kodak_Medalist&action=edit&redlink=1), Kodak Super Six-20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kodak_Super_Six-20&action=edit&redlink=1)[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-12) and Kodak Bantam Special (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kodak_Bantam_Special&action=edit&redlink=1).[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-13)
Béla Barényi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9la_Bar%C3%A9nyi) designed the Volkswagen Beetle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle) and is the father of passive safety (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_safety) in automobiles.
Ervin Kováts (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ervin_Kov%C3%A1ts&action=edit&redlink=1) invented the concept of Kovats retention index (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kovats_retention_index), a concept used in gas chromatography
Csaba Horváth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Csaba_Horv%C3%A1th_%28chemical_engineer%29) constructed the first high performance liquid chromatograph
Ferenc Anisits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Anisits) created the modern diesel engine.
Albert Szent-Györgyi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Szent-Gy%C3%B6rgyi) discovered Vitamin C (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C) and created the first artificial vitamin. (Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_in_Physiology_or_Medicine) in 1937)
Theodore Kármán (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_von_K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n) - Mathematical tools to study fluid flow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_flow) and mathematical background of supersonic flight and inventor of swept-back wings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swept_wing), "father of Supersonic Flight"
Albert Fonó (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fon%C3%B3) invented the ramjet propulsion
György Jendrassik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_Jendrassik) invented the Turboprop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboprop) propulsion
Leó Szilárd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le%C3%B3_Szil%C3%A1rd): hypothesized the nuclear chain reaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_chain_reaction) (therefore he was the first who realized the feasibility of an atomic bomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bomb)), patented the Nuclear reactor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reactor), invented the Electron microscope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_microscope) and the linear accelerator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_accelerator) (the first particle accelerator) and later invented the cyclotron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclotron)[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-14)
Tamás Péter Bródy (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tam%C3%A1s_P%C3%A9ter_Br%C3%B3dy&action=edit&redlink=1) invented the active-matrix thin film transistor technology which underpins the LCD and OLED displays commonly used today.
Dennis Gabor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Gabor) invented the Holography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holography) (Nobel Prize in Physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_in_Physics) in 1971)
László Bíró (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3_B%C3%ADr%C3%B3) invented ballpoint pen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballpoint_pen)
Edward Teller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller) hypothesized the thermonuclear fusion and the theory of the hydrogen bomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_bomb)
John Kemeny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_George_Kemeny) developed the BASIC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASIC_programming_language) programming language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language) with Thomas E. Kurtz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Kurtz)
Ferenc Pavlics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Pavlics) was one of two co-developers of NASA Apollo Lunar rover (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_rover)
Antal Bejczy (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antal_Bejczy&action=edit&redlink=1) developed Mars Rover Sojourner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sojourner_%28rover%29)
Ernő Rubik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ern%C5%91_Rubik) invented the so-called Rubik's Cube (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik%27s_Cube)
ArchiCAD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArchiCAD), 3-D software was developed by Bojár (1987)
Charles Simonyi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Simonyi) was chief-architect at Microsoft and oversaw the creation of Microsoft's flagship Office suite of applications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office).[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-NYT-15)[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-BBC-16)
Gömböc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6mb%C3%B6c), a new geometrical body, was invented in 2006 by Hungarian scientists Gábor Domokos and Péter Várkonyi
Endre Mester (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endre_Mester) invented the Low level laser therapy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_level_laser_therapy) or "light therapy"
Prezi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prezi), a web-based presentation application and storytelling tool, developed by Adam Somlai-Fischer and Peter Halacsy in 2007.
Áron Losonczy (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%81ron_Losonczy&action=edit&redlink=1) invented the LiTraCon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiTraCon), a Translucent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translucent) Concrete building material.
Dániel Rátai (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=D%C3%A1niel_R%C3%A1tai&action=edit&redlink=1) invented the three-dimensional monitor: Leonar3Do (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonar3Do).[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-17)
The three-dimensional scanner microscope 3D Alba (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3D_Alba&action=edit&redlink=1) (international patent in 2007) was developed by Katona Gergely and Rózsa Balázs[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-18)

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INFRASTRUCTURE OF HUNGARY before WW1 (Serbia was a stone age country)


Railways The first Hungarian steam locomotive railway line was opened on 15 July 1846 between Pest and Vác.[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-23) By 1910, the total length of the rail networks of Hungarian Kingdom reached 22,869 km (14,210 mi), the Hungarian network linked more than 1,490 settlements. This has ranked Hungarian railways the 6th most dense in the world (ahead of countries as Germany or France).[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-24)
Locomotive engine and railway vehicle manufacturers before the World War One:(engines and wagons bridge and iron structures) were the MÁVAG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%81VAG) company in Budapest (steam engines and wagons) and the Ganz company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganz_company) in Budapest (steam engines, wagons, the production of electric locomotives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_locomotive) and electric trams started from 1894).[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-25) and the RÁBA Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A1ba_%28company%29) in Győr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gy%C5%91r).
The first electric tramway was built in Budapest in 1887. By the turn of the 20th century, 22 Hungarian cities had electrified tramway lines.
The Ganz Works identified the significance of induction motors and synchronous motors commissioned Kálmán Kandó (1869–1931) to develop it. In 1894, Kálmán Kandó (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1lm%C3%A1n_Kand%C3%B3) developed high-voltage three-phase AC motors and generators for electric locomotives. The first-ever electric rail vehicle manufactured by Ganz Works was a 6 HP pit locomotive with direct current traction system. The first Ganz made asynchronous rail vehicles (altogether 2 pieces) were supplied in 1898 to Évian-les-Bains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89vian-les-Bains) (Switzerland) with a 37 HP asynchronous traction system. The Ganz Works won the tender of electrification of railway of Valtellina Railways in Italy in 1897. Italian railways were the first in the world to introduce electric traction for the entire length of a main line rather than just a short stretch. Kandó later invented the rotary phase converter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_phase_converter), enabling electric locomotives to use three-phase motors whilst supplied via a single overhead wire, which was powered by single phase AC.[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-26)
The Budapest metro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Metro) Line 1 (originally the "Franz Joseph Underground Electric Railway Company") is the second oldest underground railway in the world[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-27) (the first being the London Underground's Metropolitan Line), and the first on the European mainland. It was built from 1894 to 1896 and opened in Budapest on 2 May 1896.[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-28) In 2002, it was listed as a UNESCO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNESCO) World Heritage Site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Heritage_Site).[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-29)
Automotive industry Automotive industry: Prior to World War I, the Kingdom of Hungary had four car manufacturer companies; Hungarian car production started in 1900. Automotive factories in the Kingdom of Hungary manufactured motorcycles, cars, taxicabs, trucks and buses. These were: the Ganz company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganz_company)[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-30)[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-31) in Budapest, RÁBA Automobile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raba_%28automobile%29)[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-32) in Győr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gy%C5%91r), MÁG (later Magomobil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magomobil))[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-33)[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-34) in Budapest, and MARTA (Hungarian Automobile Joint-stock Company Arad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_Automobile_%26_Waggon_Factory))[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-35) in Arad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arad,_Romania).
Aeronautical industry The first Hungarian hydrogen filled experimental ballons were built by István Szabik and József Domin in 1784. The first Hungarian designed and produced airplane (powered by inline engine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inline_engine_%28aviation%29)) was flew in 1909 at Rákosmező.[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-36) The International Air-race was organized in Budapest, Rákosmező in June 1910. The earliest Hungarian radial engine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radial_engine) powered airplane was built in 1913. Between 1913-18, the Hungarian aircraft industry began developing. The 3 greatest: UFAG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFAG) Hungarian Aircraft Factory (1914), Hungarian General Aircraft Factory (1916), Hungarian Lloyd Aircraft, Engine Factory (at Aszód (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asz%C3%B3d) (1916),[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-37) and Marta in Arad (1914).[38] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-38) During the WW I, fighter planes, bombers and reconnaissance planes were produced in these factories. The most important aeroengine factories were Weiss Manfred Works, GANZ Works, and Hungarian Automobile Joint-stock Company Arad.
Electrical Industry and Electronics Main article: Ganz Works (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganz_Works)
Main article: War of Currents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents)
Main article: Tungsram (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsram)
Power plants, generators and transformers
In 1878, the Ganz company's general manager András Mechwart (1853–1942) founded the Department of Electrical Engineering headed by Károly Zipernowsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1roly_Zipernowsky) (1860–1939). Engineers Miksa Déri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miksa_D%C3%A9ri) (1854–1938) and Ottó Bláthy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ott%C3%B3_Bl%C3%A1thy) (1860–1939) also worked at the department producing direct-current machines and arc lamps.
The first turbo-generators were water turbines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_turbines) which propelled electric generators. The first Hungarian water turbine was designed by the engineers of the Ganz Works in 1866, the mass production with dynamo generators started in 1883.[39] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-39) The manufacturing of steam turbo generators started in 1903.
In the autumn of 1884, Károly Zipernowsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1roly_Zipernowsky), Ottó Bláthy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ott%C3%B3_Bl%C3%A1thy) and Miksa Déri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miksa_D%C3%A9ri) (ZBD), three engineers associated with the Ganz factory, had determined that open-core devices were impracticable, as they were incapable of reliably regulating voltage.[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-40) In their joint 1885 patent applications for novel transformers (later called ZBD transformers), they described two designs with closed magnetic circuits where copper windings were either a) wound around iron wire ring core or b) surrounded by iron wire core.[41] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-FJU1889-41) The two designs were the first application of the two basic transformer constructions in common use to this day, which can as a class all be termed as either core form or shell form (or alternatively, core type or shell type), as in a) or b), respectively (see images).[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Del_Vecchio_.282002.29-42)[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Knowlton.2C_p._562-43)[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Term.C3.A9szet_Vil.C3.A1ga-44)[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Lucas_.282000.29-45) The Ganz factory had also in the autumn of 1884 made delivery of the world's first five high-efficiency AC transformers, the first of these units having been shipped on September 16, 1884.[46] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Halacsy_.281961.29-46) This first unit had been manufactured to the following specifications: 1,400 W, 40 Hz, 120:72 V, 11.6:19.4 A, ratio 1.67:1, one-phase, shell form.[46] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Halacsy_.281961.29-46) In both designs, the magnetic flux linking the primary and secondary windings traveled almost entirely within the confines of the iron core, with no intentional path through air (see Toroidal cores (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer#Toroidal_cores) below). The new transformers were 3.4 times more efficient than the open-core bipolar devices of Gaulard and Gibbs.[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Jeszenszky-47)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/ZBD_team.jpg/220px-ZBD_team.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ZBD_team.jpg)


The Hungarian "ZBD" team invented the first high efficiency, closed core shunt connection transformer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer) and practical parallel-connected distribution circuits.


The ZBD patents included two other major interrelated innovations: one concerning the use of parallel connected, instead of series connected, utilization loads, the other concerning the ability to have high turns ratio transformers such that the supply network voltage could be much higher (initially 1,400 to 2,000 V) than the voltage of utilization loads (100 V initially preferred).[48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Ideal_.282008.29-48)[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-BUTE-OMIKK-BlathyOtto-49) When employed in parallel connected electric distribution systems, closed-core transformers finally made it technically and economically feasible to provide electric power for lighting in homes, businesses and public spaces.[50] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Bl.C3.A1thy_HPO-50)[51] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-51) Bláthy had suggested the use of closed cores, Zipernowsky had suggested the use of parallel shunt connections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunt_%28electrical%29), and Déri had performed the experiments;[52] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Smil-52) The other essential milestone was the introduction of 'voltage source, voltage intensive' (VSVI) systems'[53] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-53) by the invention of constant voltage generators in 1885.[54] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-54) Ottó Bláthy also invented the first AC electricity meter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_meter).[55] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-55)[56] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Ricks1896-56)[57] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-57)[58] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-58) Transformers today are designed on the principles discovered by the three engineers. They also popularized the word 'transformer' to describe a device for altering the emf of an electric current,[50] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Bl.C3.A1thy_HPO-50)[59] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-59) although the term had already been in use by 1882.[60] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-60)[61] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-61) In 1886, the ZBD engineers designed, and the Ganz factory supplied electrical equipment for, the world's first power station (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_station) that used AC generators to power a parallel connected common electrical network, the steam-powered Rome-Cerchi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerchi) power plant.[62] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-IEC_Techline-62) The reliability of the AC technology received impetus after the Ganz Works electrified a large European metropolis: Rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome) in 1886.[62] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-IEC_Techline-62)
Light Bulbs
Tungsram (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsram) is a Hungarian manufacturer of light bulbs and vacuum tubes since 1896. On 13 December 1904, Hungarian Sándor Just and Croatian Franjo Hanaman were granted a Hungarian patent (No. 34541) for a tungsten filament lamp that lasted longer and gave brighter light than the carbon filament. Tungsten filament lamps were first marketed by the Hungarian company Tungsram in 1904. This type is often called Tungsram-bulbs in many European countries.[63] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-63) Their experiments also showed that the luminosity of bulbs filled with an inert gas was higher than in vacuum.[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-64) The tungsten filament outlasted all other types (especially the former carbon filaments). The British Tungsram Radio Works was subsidiary of the Hungarian Tungsram in pre WW2 days.
Navigation and Shipbuilding http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Carolina_gozos.jpg/220px-Carolina_gozos.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carolina_gozos.jpg)


Carolina, the first Hungarian built steamship.


The first Hungarian steamship was built by Antal Bernhard in 1817, called S.S. "Carolina". It was also the first steamship in Habsburg ruled states.[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Wisnovszky-65) The daily passenger traffic between the two sides of the Danube (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube) by the Carolina started in 1820.[66] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-66) The regular cargo and passenger transports between Pest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pest,_Hungary) and Vienna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna) began in 1831.[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Wisnovszky-65)


Telecommunication The first telegraph station on Hungarian territory was opened in December 1847 in Pressburg/ Pozsony /Bratislava (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratislava)/. In 1848, – during the Hungarian Revolution – another telegraph centre was built in Buda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buda) to connect the most important governmental centres. The first telegraph connection between Vienna and Pest – Buda (later Budapest) was constructed in 1850.[67] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-docs.google.com-67) In 1884, 2,406 telegraph post offices operated in the Kingdom of Hungary.[68] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-68) By 1914 the number of telegraph offices reached 3,000 in post offices and further 2,400 were installed in the railway stations of the Kingdom of Hungary.[69] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Kett.C5.91s_k.C3.B6t.C5.91d.C3.A9s-69)
The first Hungarian telephone exchange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_exchange) was opened in Budapest (May 1, 1881)[70] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-70) All telephone exchanges of the cities and towns in Kingdom of Hungary were linked in 1893.[67] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-docs.google.com-67) By 1914, more than 2000 settlements had telephone exchange in Kingdom of Hungary.[69] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary#cite_note-Kett.C5.91s_k.C3.B6t.C5.91d.C3.A9s-69)
The Telephone Herald (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_Herald) was a unique service in the World. From 1893, 20 years before the invention of the radio, residents of Budapest could listen to news, cabaret, music and opera at home and in public spaces daily. It operated with a special type of Telephone exchange system and an own separated network .

[Desaix DeBurgh]

If fact nordic people have a significant percentage to contributions on beauty, art, sports, science and Engineering.

Not really since Germany and Britain are not nordic like Scandinavia and since France and Italy are obviously not nordic. True nordic people, like Scandinavians, are inferior to the French and Italians. Germany and Britain are not truly nordic nations proper.

[Sarmatian]

You are a teenager, a self-appointed scientist. Nuclear chain reaction (The A. bomb) and N. reactor are Hungarian inventions. They were invented by Leo Szilárd (the creator of Manhattan project). Whitout him, there would be no nuclear weapons and nuclear power plants on this planet. (The lack of this knowledge proves that you are not scientist, just a teenager boy)

:picard2: Do you even understand the difference between invention and discovery? Nuclear chain reaction can't be invented, it's a physical process and after discovery of neutron quite obvious one. Nuclear reactor was built by team of scientists and for some reason the leading role was attributed to Fermi. Szilard was only co-owner of the patent on first reactor, that's it.

You are a joke. Only an imbecile like you would call me a teenager since my photo is publicly available in pictures thread :laugh:

[Minesweeper]

Stears, did you know that there was a Serb who was a Hungarian prime minister?

[Ctwentysevenj]

Italy is the only southern nation that holds a candle to England in terms of raw output of technology, and England still wins in that match up. Lost my shit at Furnace post. :lol:

True Italy is the only industrial power house in Southern Europe. The only other big industrial power houses in Europe are Britain, Germany, and France. The next one down are probably the Netherlands, Sweden and Poland. Italy is home to some of the largest industrial companies in Europe and the world, like finmeccanica spa, Fiat-Chyrsler, Agip, Avio and fincantieri shipyards, the largest builder of passenger ships in the world. The second largest aerospace company in the UK, is Italian Agusta-Westland, which is the second biggest helicopter manufacturer in the world. They have factories not only in Italy and the UK, but also the United States. Agusta-Westland also own Poland's largest aerospace company PZL- Swidnik S.A, there are many other industrial companies out there. That is just a small example.

[Sockorer]

I'm shocked and offended by this thread.

[♥ Lily ♥]

I'm shocked and offended by this thread.

Whoever made this thread praises Italians and Greeks in their first post and slanders Nordics, so I wonder who would stoop so low to make this thread? Imagine if this was the other way around and how Italians would react. Nordics are cool people and would find this childish and so they wouldn't take this seriously, but there's not many of them and southern and eastern Europeans dominate a lot of the forum.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Whoever started this thread, only makes a dick of himself.

[dude]

Not really since Germany and Britain are not nordic like Scandinavia and since France and Italy are obviously not nordic. True nordic people, like Scandinavians, are inferior to the French and Italians. Germany and Britain are not truly nordic nations proper.
True from that perspective. In reality is difficult to measure and entire population based on the achievements of a few. For example, people in here always try to put Serbia down, however Nikola Tesla was Serbian. Using the same "superiority" theories that would put Serbia much higher in the superiority list. Of course this does not take away from the British, French, German and Italian contributions.