A law against trans individuals deceiving people

[Anima Libera]

In some sitcoms, we've all seen this one poor fellow that gets deceived by a "woman" who in actuality is a man and ends up screwing "her"; Only then to find out she has a dick. That is not cool at all.

I believe there needs to be a law enacted against this everywhere, and luckily the U.K. had done so. Because it's being a fraud and it's dangerous.

Every transvestite/transsexual needs to disclose their gender to the person before attempting to have sexual intercourse, a relationship, or being courted to. Otherwise, it will lead to raspy consequences like: the decievee might end up harming the deceiver, there will be scorn and depression, or conflicts.

I know that the trans individual shouldn't be subjected to informing everyone about their sexual transition, it's all private. But I do believe that it is imperative to release info with the unsuspecting person if the trans is wanting to have an intimate relationship them at least. The unsuspecting person should be obliged to know about the trans individual, otherwise it will lead to chaos.

It's equal to rape. You are giving consent to the person who you thought is the gender they seem, but actually aren't. Once you find out, you're going to feel immense regret and dirtiness that you laid hands on someone and performing sexual acts on the gender you're not attracted to.

Do you agree?

[Anima Libera]

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[Also]

You are giving trans "people" too much thought and rights.

The right question is, do they have a right to live?

[Anima Libera]

You are giving trans "people" too much thought and rights.

The right question is, do they have a right to live?

They maybe annoying and flamboyant in general, but I must put my emotions aside and be fair.

[Anima Libera]

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[Gaston]

I blame the ones who get fooled: pheromones could help them.

[Sockorer]

I have a very good idea. :thumb001:

[Kazimiera]

I agree. More than one man on this good earth has fallen for a woman who had a little (and sometimes not-so-little) surprise for him in her frilly panties.

Push-up bras are also fraud.

When you meet her...

http://www.les-dessous-de-la-lingerie.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Push-Up-Bra-Embroidery.jpg


Once you have paid for dinner and you take her home for "coffee"....

http://209.95.34.228/t/11/34/135/8-320x240.jpg

[Anima Libera]

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[Linebacker]

Only a complete idiot would go all the way to bed without realizing he is dating a tranny.Especially In the summer when light clothing is present it would be impossible not to see it.

Apart from that,here in my country we kind of like to get touchy when we are kissing with our dates,like ass feels and sometimes the more daring even go for the touch down.At that moment anyone would realize what he is feeling is not a pussy.

[Kazimiera]

Only a complete idiot would go all the way to bed without realizing he is dating a tranny.Especially In the summer when light clothing is present it would be impossible not to see it.

Apart from that,here in my country we kind of like to get touchy when we are kissing with our dates,like ass feels and sometimes the more daring even go for the touch down.At that moment anyone would realize what he is feeling is not a pussy.

I know a tranny. He said he tapes his schlong down back so that he is flat in front and appears as a woman. He said it is super sore to sit down because you are sitting on your dick which is squashing your balls. But, as he puts it "You have to suffer if you want to be beautiful". I know that he has snagged himself an unsuspecting guy once because he came to work with a blue eye.

I also knew a guy who was going through a heavy divorce. He started drinking a lot and hung around the bad part of town. He met this superb woman whom he wanted to sleep with (to get revenge on his wife for her cheating on him), but nobody wanted to tell him that his new catch had stubble and a really deep voice. I don't know what the outcome of the story was because nobody every saw him again.

[Anima Libera]

Only a complete idiot would go all the way to bed without realizing he is dating a tranny.Especially In the summer when light clothing is present it would be impossible not to see it.

Apart from that,here in my country we kind of like to get touchy when we are kissing with our dates,like ass feels and sometimes the more daring even go for the touch down.At that moment anyone would realize what he is feeling is not a pussy.

But it still happens

And there ar many that had a sex change that they really look like the gender they wanted to be and look nothing like the original gender they were

[Longbowman]

100%. We have a similar rule - we, the Jews, in our Motherland, Israel - that Arab males can and have been jailed for rape for having sex with Jews who thought they were Jews. Not disclosing your ethnic background or the fact you used to have a dick is just as bad as rape, right? Exactly the same as pinning someone down and violating them.

[alfieb]

I support this theoretical legislation.

One who is knowingly HIV+ or has some similar communicable illness is usually required to disclose it beforehand, and I think the same courtesy should be legally afforded to the victims (loaded word, admittedly) of pre-op transsexuals.

[♥ Lily ♥]

I think it's a good idea. I also think it should be illegal for people to have operations to change their sex, when they are the sex in which they're born and the problem is in their mind. The sick things surgeons will do for money...

Another way of detecting transexuals is they can't have babies and they won't menstruate or have PMS (time of month.)

[Anima Libera]

100%. We have a similar rule - we, the Jews, in our Motherland, Israel - that Arab males can and have been jailed for rape for having sex with Jews who thought they were Jews. Not disclosing your ethnic background or the fact you used to have a dick is just as bad as rape, right? Exactly the same as pinning someone down and violating them.

Yay I'm popular here now, I'm recognized by a superb intellectual by my thread.

[Anima Libera]

I think it's a good idea. I also think it should be illegal for people to have operations to change their sex, when they are the sex in which they're born and the problem is in their mind. The sick things surgeons will do for money...

Another way of detecting transexuals is they can't have babies and they won't menstruate or have PMS (time of month.)

they should go see a shrink.

[♥ Lily ♥]

they should go see a shrink.

Maybe they need a brain transplant. :rolleyes:

[Anima Libera]

Maybe they need a brain transplant. :rolleyes:

Or a crossbow to the head.

[Dictator]

Or a crossbow to the head.

You mean a bolt

http://www.thespecialistsltd.com/files/crossbow_bolt.jpg

[Anima Libera]

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[Pjeter Pan]

You are giving trans "people" too much thought and rights.

The right question is, do they have a right to live?

This.

I have nothing against normal gays as long as they.
1. Aren't in my family
2. Aren't flamboyant fags.
3. Leave me the fuck alone.

But trans are truly abominations and need to be slaughtered

[Amud]

How could a trans individual fool anyone in the first place? Humans have sexual dimorphism. You can change your hair, clothes, make-up, take hormones, have your dick and balls cut off, or get breast implants all you want, but guess what, you will still have male secondary sex characteristics.

[Longbowman]

How could a trans individual fool anyone in the first place? Humans have sexual dimorphism. You can change your hair, clothes, make-up, take hormones, have your dick and balls cut off, or get breast implants all you want, but guess what, you will still have male secondary sex characteristics.

Hormone replacement therapy can take care of a lot of it if done early enough.

[Anima Libera]

How could a trans individual fool anyone in the first place? Humans have sexual dimorphism. You can change your hair, clothes, make-up, take hormones, have your dick and balls cut off, or get breast implants all you want, but guess what, you will still have male secondary sex characteristics.

Still happens.

btw, I've seen plentiful of transexuals who look like the gender they're imitating.

[Amud]

Hormone replacement therapy can take care of a lot of it if done early enough.

Yeah, I didn't think of that but I suppose it's true. I wouldn't be surprised if it could be 100% convincing if it is done before puberty. I think most transgender people transition during adulthood though, and that's what I was referring to.

[Longbowman]

Yeah, I didn't think of that but I suppose it's true. I wouldn't be surprised if it could be 100% convincing if it is done before puberty. I think most transgender people transition during adulthood though, and that's what I was referring to.

The shoulders, for me, seem to stand out MTF transsexuals. FTMs are usually very convincing though.

[Svipdag]

The one person which the "tranny" is really deceiving his him/herself. How can Chastity ("Chaz") Bono be a man when every cell in HER body has two X-chromosomes in its nucleus ? In that entire grossly obese body, there is not a single male Y-chromsome ! Prosthetic external plumbing doesn't make a female eunuch into a male. Has "he" got seminal vesicles ? a prostate gland ? vasa deferentia ? Cowper's glands ? Can :"Chaz" impregnate a woman with "his" own sperm ?

All this "male" has is a prosthetic penis. Every cell in "his" entire body, including that phony penis, is a FEMALE cell.

How about a M-F transexual , e.g. Christine Jorgensen or Wendy Carlos ? Every cell in the body of these "women" has a Y-chromosome in its nucleus, and there is no way to get rid of it ! The M-F transexual is a male eunuch. Has "she" got a uterus ? ovaries ? Does "she" menstruate ? Can "she" become pregnant ? Every cell in the bodies of these "women" is MALE !

Transexualism is entirely deception, first of all, SELF-deception, then, by way of transvestism, deception of others. There is no such thing as a real sex change.

[Anima Libera]

The one person which the "tranny" is really deceiving his him/herself. How can Chastity ("Chaz") Bono be a man when every cell in HER body has two X-chromosomes in its nucleus ? In that entire grossly obese body, there is not a single male Y-chromsome ! Prosthetic external plumbing doesn't make a female eunuch into a male. Has "he" got seminal vesicles ? a prostate gland ? vasa deferentia ? Cowper's glands ? Can :"Chaz" impregnate a woman with "his" own sperm ?

All this "male" has is a prosthetic penis. Every cell in "his" entire body, including that phony penis, is a FEMALE cell.

How about a M-F transexual , e.g. Christine Jorgensen or Wendy Carlos ? Every cell in the body of these "women" has a Y-chromosome in its nucleus, and there is no way to get rid of it ! The M-F transexual is a male eunuch. Has "she" got a uterus ? ovaries ? Does "she" menstruate ? Can "she" become pregnant ? Every cell in the bodies of these "women" is MALE !

Transexualism is entirely deception, first of all, SELF-deception, then, by way of transvestism, deception of others. There is no such thing as a real sex change.

I know.

It should be called gender appearance change. You cannot change gender, but you can alter your appearance as the gender you want to be, but regardless, you'd still be the gender you were born into.

[Anthony PV]

Transexualism is entirely deception, first of all, SELF-deception, then, by way of transvestism, deception of others. There is no such thing as a real sex change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolbachia ← Apparently, there is a bacteria that infects various 'bugs': arthropods (insects, spiders, etc.), isopods (shrimps?), nematodes (microscopic worms), etc. What that bacteria does to these bugs is interesting: it kills off the males it infects or tries to transform them into female bugs... :p For the female bugs it infects, this bacteria allows them to reproduce through 'parthenogenesis': that means the female gets pregnant by itself without the action of male semen. However, that mode of autonomous reproduction will only produce other females, never any male.

Let's hope transgender activists won't try to transform it into a bacteria capable of infecting humans... :p Yish, a bacteria capable of turning the Y-chromosome of every cell of your body into an X-chromosome... :shocked:

[Campylobacter jejuni]

It's far from rape, but you could argue that keeping this information undisclosed may warrant a civil lawsuit, mostly because it seriously hampers with the partner's ability to have children with "his wife", which he may have wished to do. I think reasonable adults are able to come to a conclusion on their own though and don't need the state holding their hands for every little booboo - right? ;)

While it is deceitful, the harm done is negligible and hardly comparable to the intense mental or physical trauma sustained during a (sexual) assault. I don't see how anyone could earnestly call this rape, much like "stare rape" or "switch rape".


Yish, a bacteria capable of turning the Y-chromosome of every cell of your body into an X-chromosome... :shocked:
I think that would be incredibly awesome just from a "fuck yeah science!" angle. ;)

[Beit El]

Doesn't this fall under 'rape by deception' laws some countries have?

[Anima Libera]

Doesn't this fall under 'rape by deception' laws some countries have?

I honestly don't know

[Anima Libera]

It's far from rape, but you could argue that keeping this information undisclosed may warrant a civil lawsuit, mostly because it seriously hampers with the partner's ability to have children with "his wife", which he may have wished to do. I think reasonable adults are able to come to a conclusion on their own though and don't need the state holding their hands for every little booboo - right? ;)

While it is deceitful, the harm done is negligible and hardly comparable to the intense mental or physical trauma sustained during a (sexual) assault. I don't see how anyone could earnestly call this rape, much like "stare rape" or "switch rape".


I think that would be incredibly awesome just from a "fuck yeah science!" angle. ;)

You're right, maybe it isn't rape. I guess it's the same as being traumatized after banging some girl who had fake tits and thought they were real.

[Bobby Martnen]

Transsexualism should be against the law.