brother nation of the gypsies romany

[Mortimer]

every nation has a brother nation, uk and usa, germany and austria, russia and serbia etc.
who is the brother nation of romany? first comes to mind india, racially it should be like that, but im not sure if many indians are aware of gypsies and if they feel a brotherly kinship
any opinions

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Jews. and maybe kurds

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

MASSIVE shitstorm about to hit.
Well,I dont put kurds with them, kurds are OK, COOL PEOPLE.

About jews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-uy1qi5n4

[Mortimer]

Jews. and maybe kurds

far fetched idea

[Mortimer]

Well,I dont put kurds with them, kurds are OK, COOL PEOPLE.

About jews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-uy1qi5n4

jews see themselfes as related to europeans dude, jews dont see themselfes related to gypsies, that should be obvious, older ashkenazis have the same prejudice about gypsies as other eastern europeans. dont be a fool. and stop trolling.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

jews see themselfes as related to europeans dude, jews dont see themselfes related to gypsies, that should be obvious, older ashkenazis have the same prejudice about gypsies as other eastern europeans. dont be a fool. and stop trolling.
I'm not trolling, they share a similar history, being wandering peoples, rejected by their host countries, and before israel both were nations without territories.

[Heart of Oak]

Brown bear, if you are Romany, tell me what this means?; Strolling down the tolbra, dick eye the kye, ega begga bagga, all Romany...

[Nurzat]

the country of Romanya with its capital city Roma - that's the name, isn't it??

http://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/designs/12242520,width=178,height=178/Bitch-Please-Moustache---internet-meme.png

Romanian Gypsy YouTuber hip hopping in Gypsy (te merel micha daka tu lalay jas keres tu merel mi koa, so te kares, mo kares koro, te has mam cheva)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esvxjL9tWuY

[Mortimer]

I'm not trolling, they share a similar history, being wandering peoples, rejected by their host countries, and before israel both were nations without territories.

there are lots of nations without terretories and i would say romany have more in common with the european irish travellers then with jews if we go by culture alone or nomadic lifestyle, there are so many nomadics in the world though or who are rejected by their host countries etc. jews are very different though as jews had a empire before the romans destroyed israel and send them to diaspora, jews have a alphabet a religious book which is founder of the main religion of europe, etc. but that being said they dont feel related at all, i said indians because i know some indians do, like the president of hindu universal society who said european union should apologise to gypsies for persecution then there was this canadian indian politican who attacked france for kicking out gypsies, i know that some indians feel related to gypsies but not any jew though. so your idea is far fetched.

[Mortimer]

the country of Romanya with its capital city Roma - that's the name, isn't it??

http://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/designs/12242520,width=178,height=178/Bitch-Please-Moustache---internet-meme.png

Romanian Gypsy YouTuber hip hopping in Gypsy (te merel micha daka tu lalay jas keres tu merel mi koa, so te kares, mo kares koro, te has mam cheva)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esvxjL9tWuY

gypsies are a non-terretorial nation but still a nation

[Mortimer]

Brown bear, if you are Romany, tell me what this means?; Strolling down the tolbra, dick eye the kye, ega begga bagga, all Romany...

i dont know what this means sounds like you made it up or like that, like a drunk british would imitate a chinese or like that

[Heart of Oak]

i dont know what this means sounds like you made it up or like that, like a drunk british would imitate a chinese or like that
It is Romany taken from wikipedia...rofl

[Mortimer]

It is Romany taken from wikipedia...rofl

ok then sorry. i dont understand romany though

[Jehan]

I don't think there is an european nation who consider gypsy as their "brother nation".

[Mortimer]

I don't think there is an european nation who consider gypsy as their "brother nation".

do you think indians are brother nation of gypsies? it could be extended to bangladeshis, sri lankans, pakistanis, and maybe thais (hindus indian influence)etc.

[Jehan]

do you think indians are brother nation of gypsies? it could be extended to bangladeshis, sri lankans, pakistanis, and maybe thais (hindus indian influence)etc.

No ideas. Some indians on apricity can tell you their opinions abot gypsies.

[pelikarski]

No ideas. Some indians on apricity can tell you their opinions abot gypsies.

Most Indians are unaware of the existence of Gypsies, let alone feeling some kinship with them

[Dombra]

Ghetto Aframs

[RandoBloom]

Serbs are your brother nation trough blood and history. Its impossible to differentiate between you two

[Nurzat]

generally speaking, the Mediterranean spectrum (Portuguese, Spanish, Catalan, Galician, Sardinian, Italian, ALL THE BALKANS - Yugoslavia and Albania and Bulgaria and Romania and Hungary and Macedonia, GREECE, Turkey, Cyprus, Lebanon, KURDISTAN, Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Rajastan)

[TheForeigner]

The most popular music genre in Romania is manele(Gypsy crap pseudo-music) and there are many gypofied Rumanians called ''cocalari'' that immitate Gypsies, just like American wiggers do with their blacks. The majority of youth and many stupid peasants of all ages are like this. There is some Gypsy admixture too and most Gypsies just claim to be ethnic Romanians and are accepted as such, despite being mostly brown skinned and non-European looking. So maybe it's Romanians. No other people or country likes Gypsies, but stupid Rumanians love Gypsies!:picard1:

[Gabi]

the country of Romanya with its capital city Roma - that's the name, isn't it??

http://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/designs/12242520,width=178,height=178/Bitch-Please-Moustache---internet-meme.png

Romanian Gypsy YouTuber hip hopping in Gypsy (te merel micha daka tu lalay jas keres tu merel mi koa, so te kares, mo kares koro, te has mam cheva)

I thought you Turks are very related to Gypsies, so why it should be Romania? Just because the names are quite similar? Oh, please, this has nothing to do with it. What about the Turkish culture and history? Both of you came from Asia and both of you are nomadic. Although, you share the same religious traditions, same traditional music, you have the largest percentage of Gypsies in Turkey, but you look exactly the same and there's no difference at all... I mean, if you put Turks, Gypsies & Arabs in a single room (for example), most of other people's opinion would say they look very similar each other. Too bad Vlad Țepeș is not alive anymore, especially for you.

[gültekin]

Besides, this is how an average Turk looks like to me:
http://cdn1.yazete.com/resimler/1388000/1388786.jpg
Recep İvedik?,lol he is an actor , Şahan Gökbakar
http://www.sosyette.com/img/haber/sahan_gokbakar.jpg
and he just imitate your Kurdish father bra
http://i.hizliresim.com/EERqG9.jpg

[Nurzat]

I see much hate over Gypoes here, that is quite sad. I suppose you guys consider yourselves superior beings by birth or something. until you actually prove it, you're not

[Gabi]

Recep İvedik?,lol he is an actor , Şahan Gökbakar
http://www.sosyette.com/img/haber/sahan_gokbakar.jpg

Turks who look European are not real ethnic Turkish. Deal with it.


and he just imitate your Kurdish father bra
http://i.hizliresim.com/EERqG9.jpg
Nope, this one is yours. He looks very Turkish, definitely not Kurdish. This is the new average Turk from now on. Nice try, self-hater.


I see much hate over Gypoes here, that is quite sad. I suppose you guys consider yourselves superior beings by birth or something. until you actually prove it, you're not
Did I say something bad about your own Gypsy ethnicity? Why do you hate yourself so much? This is pretty sad after you've talked shit about my country and you're the one who's telling me how I was really speaking about Gypsies? This is really funny since your comment was pretty racist, but anyway... you know, you just proved my point.

[Pahli]

Recep İvedik?,lol he is an actor , Şahan Gökbakar
http://www.sosyette.com/img/haber/sahan_gokbakar.jpg

WHITE EUROPEAN TURK STRAIGHT OUT OF CENTRAL ASIA, TURKS ARE THE ONLY PROTO-EUROPEAN PEOPLE

[Stears]

generally speaking, the Mediterranean spectrum (Portuguese, Spanish, Catalan, Galician, Sardinian, Italian, ALL THE BALKANS - Yugoslavia and Albania and Bulgaria and Romania and Hungary and Macedonia, GREECE, Turkey, Cyprus, Lebanon, KURDISTAN, Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Rajastan) Ignorant. Hungary is not located on the balkan peninsula

[gültekin]

Turks who look European are not real ethnic Turkish. Deal with it.

Nope, this one is yours. He looks very Turkish, definitely not Kurdish. Nice try, self-hater.
.
hahahaha look here who talks about selfhate, o you Demhat you butthurt Kıro , if he's not Kurdish :D then who are they?
http://www.evrensel.net/files/news/default/ocalanin-newroz-mesaji-barisimiz-halklar-icindir9e036b61fd8019b4a214.jpg
http://www.sanatcephesi.org/images/21_Mart_2013_Newroz_1.jpg
http://s27.postimg.org/8gz4f4dpf/480203857.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/z84wstssd/Getty_Images_80330206.jpg
http://s15.postimg.org/njxedtuaj/Getty_Images_80330234.jpg
http://s15.postimg.org/nnr7u2zrv/Getty_Images_480203551.jpg
http://s7.postimg.org/a5kytdhp7/Getty_Images_480203659.jpg
http://s29.postimg.org/5bk2sous7/1026698.jpg
for compare, millions of Turks from Central Anatolia, Ankara
Turks , ANKARA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKI9RPPgxTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNO9kwtWOAE

[Nurzat]

Turks who look European are not real ethnic Turkish. Deal with it.


Nope, this one is yours. He looks very Turkish, definitely not Kurdish. Nice try, self-hater.


Did I say something bad about your own Gypsy ethnicity? Why do you hate yourself so much? This is pretty sad after you've talked shit about my country and you're the one who's telling me how I was really speaking about Gypsies? This is really funny since your comment was pretty racist, but anyway... you know, you just proved my point.


whaat? LOL I was just saying that we in the BALKANS are close to Gypsy culture as we shared the same space for so long. I live in Romania, I know what I'm saying: Romanians listen to MANELE GYPSY MUSIC and watch telenovelas featuring GYPSY STORIES with Nicoleta Luciu and others on ACASĂ TV.

Balkans are not ethnically Gypsy but we live together here and we borrow much one from another and I don't know why some DISSOCIATE that much from Gypsies and even say that "there aren't that many" or "they live in their own communities, they have nothing to do with us"... why can't we just be honest and FRIENDS all the people in the world, at least all us here in the Balkans

[jatt]

Indians are already brotherly nation of gypsies....

[Gabi]

whaat? LOL I was just saying that we in the BALKANS are close to Gypsy culture as we shared the same space for so long. I live in Romania, I know what I'm saying: Romanians listen to MANELE GYPSY MUSIC and watch telenovelas featuring GYPSY STORIES with Nicoleta Luciu and others on ACASĂ TV.
Actually, around 14% of Romanian population (including Gypsies) listens to Manele music which is a Turkish-derived genre performed by lăutari in a lăutărească manner, while the "modern manele" are a mixture of Turkish, Greek, Arabic, Bulgarian and Serbian elements, generally using modern (electronic) instruments and beats.
Proof:
http://www.tvdece.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/image-2013-10-8-15758062-0-grafic-1.jpg
Manele is one of the most hated genre of music in Romania if you didn't know.
Speaking of living in Romania, why many of you Turks are coming here in Romania? We don't need Muslims here and we firstly disrespect you. I know three Turkish families living in my neighborhood side and I can hear how they're passionated to Manele (Gypsy) music & they're fucking annoying with their typical attitude they really have, don't forget they also behave kinda like Gypsies, instead they have houses, but they're making a lot of kids & still don't know how to educate themselves.


Balkans are not ethnically Gypsy but we live together here and we borrow much one from another and I don't know why some DISSOCIATE that much from Gypsies and even say that "there aren't that many" or "they live in their own communities, they have nothing to do with us"... why can't we just be honest and FRIENDS all the people in the world, at least all us here in the Balkans
Romania is not fully Balkanic. Is it all right I don't want to be friends with you? No offence, but I think Greeks are more friends with us than we are with you.
http://www.aprilsmith.org/uploads/6/8/3/4/6834889/8313386.png?388

[Hadouken]

hahahaha look here who talks about selfhate, o you Demhat you butthurt Kıro , if he's not Kurdish :D then who are they?
http://www.evrensel.net/files/news/default/ocalanin-newroz-mesaji-barisimiz-halklar-icindir9e036b61fd8019b4a214.jpg
http://www.sanatcephesi.org/images/21_Mart_2013_Newroz_1.jpg
http://s27.postimg.org/8gz4f4dpf/480203857.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/z84wstssd/Getty_Images_80330206.jpg
http://s15.postimg.org/njxedtuaj/Getty_Images_80330234.jpg
http://s15.postimg.org/nnr7u2zrv/Getty_Images_480203551.jpg
http://s7.postimg.org/a5kytdhp7/Getty_Images_480203659.jpg
http://s29.postimg.org/5bk2sous7/1026698.jpg
for compare, millions of Turks from Central Anatolia, Ankara
Turks , ANKARA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKI9RPPgxTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNO9kwtWOAE

here my people

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/single/?p=1494221&t=5722824

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/single/?p=1447498&t=5722824

[Pahli]

here my people

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/single/?p=1494221&t=5722824

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/single/?p=1447498&t=5722824

Don't try to reason with this kucik be sharaf, he isn't going to understand anything of that anyway.

[Heart of Oak]

ok then sorry. i dont understand romany though
Okay, at least you admit that you are not a true Full Romany, the words meant " Walking down the road" "Hello mate" " Do you have a bag" for your future reference...
I hope your as well as can be. I am sorry if I have caused you any embarrassment, this is not what I was trying to do in anyway, I loves ya IM...

[Grace O'Malley]

there are lots of nations without terretories and i would say romany have more in common with the european irish travellers then with jews if we go by culture alone or nomadic lifestyle, there are so many nomadics in the world though or who are rejected by their host countries etc. jews are very different though as jews had a empire before the romans destroyed israel and send them to diaspora, jews have a alphabet a religious book which is founder of the main religion of europe, etc. but that being said they dont feel related at all, i said indians because i know some indians do, like the president of hindu universal society who said european union should apologise to gypsies for persecution then there was this canadian indian politican who attacked france for kicking out gypsies, i know that some indians feel related to gypsies but not any jew though. so your idea is far fetched.

Possibly by lifestyle but Irish Travellers are just a subset of Irish people. They are just people that took to the road possibly over 2,000 years ago and have intermarried mostly with themselves. Some Irish Travellers are steeped in Irish culture and have really kept some very old traditional songs alive into the modern era. They aren't like Romansh or Welsh Kale who have an actual outside origin. Irish Travellers are completely indigenous to the British Isles.

[Fear Fiain]

Possibly by lifestyle but Irish Travellers are just a subset of Irish people. They are just people that took to the road possibly over 2,000 years ago and have intermarried mostly with themselves. Some Irish Travellers are steeped in Irish culture and have really kept some very old traditional songs alive into the modern era. They aren't like Romansh or Welsh Kale who have an actual outside origin. Irish Travellers are completely indigenous to the British Isles.

I have traveller ancestry but it's on my american side.
recent enough though that there's lots of copper pots to be inherited and my mum is protective of travellers.
surnames like "pinney" and "tinker" ...
tinker was 100 years ago what pikey is today ...
anyhow. i do think there might be a certain restlessness in the DNA.
they've traced the language of the travellers, and some of it is older than old irish.
may be they're folk who never settled, kept moving about.
still our people, at the end of the day.

I'm curious since you were born and raised back home, do travellers in ireland get on well with settled people?
here in the states they have a generally positive relationship with the irish american community and tend to abstain from ripping off people who seem to be of irish origin.
(they do rip others off sometimes though. )

[Heart of Oak]

This can't be a very strongly bonded tribe of Romany Gypsies if you can't talk Romany...

[Grace O'Malley]

I have traveller ancestry but it's on my american side.
recent enough though that there's lots of copper pots to be inherited and my mum is protective of travellers.
surnames like "pinney" and "tinker" ...
tinker was 100 years ago what pikey is today ...
anyhow. i do think there might be a certain restlessness in the DNA.
they've traced the language of the travellers, and some of it is older than old irish.
may be they're folk who never settled, kept moving about.
still our people, at the end of the day.

I'm curious since you were born and raised back home, do travellers in ireland get on well with settled people?
here in the states they have a generally positive relationship with the irish american community and tend to abstain from ripping off people who seem to be of irish origin.
(they do rip others off sometimes though. )

I was born there but only partially raised. No they don't really have a good reputation in Ireland and there are a lot of problems. Like any group there are some good and some bad. They are undoubtedly Irish though and the friction is caused by the same issues as elsewhere. There are a lot of Travellers that rip people off and because of their lifestyle a lot of the children don't get a good education. I think a lot of problems with people having difficulties runs both ways and it would be the same with the Roma.

The Travellers do keep some traditional music and songs alive and as I said they are Irish. Some Travellers have done well and have went on to get a uni education so all credit to them. A lot of the Irish boxing team come from Traveller stock and are fantastic boxers. This possibly stems from their tradition of bare knuckle boxing.

Some examples of great Travellers:

Johnny Doran - one of the most influential uilleann pipers in the history of Irish music. His great-grandfather was the celebrated Wexford piper John Cash.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg13/picscavenger/c1955BallycastleCoAntrim-Copy.jpg

Paddy Keenan another great uilleann pipe play and founding member of the Bothy Band. He has had a great influence of modern Irish music.

https://ictm2011.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/peddy-keenan.jpg

John Reilly from my father's home town. He had a very large influence on many traditional and folk singers.

http://www.itma.ie/images/uploads/songsoftheirishtravellers006.jpg

Patrick "Pecker" Dunne an Irish musician and seanchaí. Pecker looks a bit Romany I think.

http://cdn3.independent.ie/migration_catalog/article28973524.ece/5673e/ALTERNATES/h342/fa514a00-64e4-4911-8eba-1764833d933b.jpg

Shayne Ward is a former winner of XFactor and the son of Irish Travellers.

http://www.shayneward.moonfruit.com/communities/5/004/006/322/485//images/4602948300.jpg

David Essex, his mother was from an Irish Traveller family.

http://billbungay.com/Items_For_Sale/lp_records/E/essex_david_rock_on_lg.jpg

Here are some of the boxers

Francie Barrett

http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/watermarked-b/Library/SF179/168095.jpg

Tyson Fury, he's massive and about 6ft 8 or 9. I wouldn't like to get on his bad side. :)

http://ticketnews.eventim.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/tyson-fury.jpg

Michael Gomez (real name Armstrong)

http://e1.365dm.com/13/10/16-9/20/MichaelGomez171013_3020384.jpg?20131017210308

John Joe Nevin, who has won some boxing medals for Ireland at the Olympics

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01834/nev_1834750a.jpg

John O'Donnell, a professional boxer

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2849132230/dd69ce668365f1512255ec9fc255a934_400x400.png

[Proto-Shaman]

Turks who look European are not real ethnic Turkish. Deal with it.
Says the half Cumanian from Romania xD

[Heart of Oak]

Dia duit, tá súil agam gur féidir leat a thuiscint dom, más rud é nach b'fhéidir go mbeidh cainteoir Gaeilge a aistriú ar do shon, a deir tú do chuid ar giofógach, ach tá a fhios agat rud ar bith de na dteangacha Gypsy is coitianta, I mo thuairim, go bhfuil tú calaois, nach bhfuil tú giofógach ar chor ar bith , má tá mé mícheart beidh mé ag ithe mo hata mar sin beidh mé:tongue

[Gabi]

Says the half Cumanian from Romania xD

You wish I'm half-Cuman, nomadic Mongol terrorist from Turkey.

[Proto-Shaman]

You wish I'm half-Cuman, nomadic Mongol terrorist from Turkey.
No, but I wish you were not.

[Gabi]

No, but I wish you were not.

And you're the one who called me like that, so you really wish...