Why It's Okay To Be Fat [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

Marusya

04-01-2015, 08:42 AM

I follow this to stay thin. My sister sent this book to me a few years ago. It works. There is no excuse for being overweight. It looks sloppy and unattractive. It looks like the person no longer cares about anything. Fat people have a harder time in every aspect of life. ALSO, DO NOT OBSERVE FAT PEOPLE. IF THEY COME INTO YOUR LINE OF SIGHT IMMEDIATELY LOOK AWAY!

Let's look at using the Creative Process for those who feel they are overweight and who want to lose weight.

The first thing to know is that if you focus on losing weight, you will attract back having to lose more weight, so get "having to lose weight" out of your mind. It's the very reason why diets don't work. Because you are focused on losing weight, you must attract back continually having to lose weight.

The second thing to know is that the condition of being overweight was created through your thought to it. To put it in the most basic terms, if someone is overweight, it came from thinking "fat thoughts," whether that person was aware of it or not. A person cannot think "thin thoughts" and be fat. It completely defies the law of attraction.

Whether people have been told they have a slow thyroid, a slow metabolism, or their body size is hereditary, these are all disguises for thinking "fat thoughts." If you accept any of those conditions as applicable to you, and you believe it, it must become your experience, and you will continue to attract being overweight.

After I had my two daughters I was overweight, and I know it came from listening to and reading the messages that it is hard to lose weight after having a baby, and even harder after the second baby. I summoned exactly that to me with those "fat thoughts," and it became my experience. I really "beefed up," and the more I noticed how I had "beefed up," the more "beefing up" I attracted. With a small frame, I became a hefty 143 pounds, all because I was thinking "fat thoughts."

The most common thought that people hold, and I held it too, is that food was responsible for my weight gain. That is a belief that does not serve you, and in my mind now it is complete balderdash! Food is not responsible for putting on weight. It is your thought that food is responsible for putting on weight that actually has food put on weight. Remember, thoughts are primary cause of everything, and the rest is effects from those thoughts. Think perfect thoughts and the result must be perfect weight.

Let go of all those limiting thoughts. Food cannot cause you to put on weight, unless you think it can.

The definition of the perfect weight is the weight that feels good for you. No one else's opinion counts. It is the weight that feels good for you.

You most likely know of someone who is thin and eats like a horse, and they proudly declare, "I can eat whatever I want and I am always the perfect weight." And so the Genie of the Universe says, "Your wish is my command!"

To attract your perfect weight and body using the Creative Process, follow these steps:

Step 1: Ask
Get clear on the weight you want to be. Have a picture in your mind of what you will look like when you have become that perfect weight. Get pictures of yourself at your perfect weight, if you have them, and look at them often. If not, get pictures of the body you would like to have and look at those often.

Step 2: Believe
You must believe you will receive and that the perfect weight is yours already. You must imagine, pretend, act as if, make-believe, that the perfect weight is yours. You must see yourself as receiving that perfect weight.

Write out your perfect weight and place it over the readout of your scale, or don't weigh yourself at all. Do not contradict what you have asked for with your thoughts, words, and actions. Don't buy clothes at your current weight. Have faith and focus on the clothes you are going to buy. Attracting the perfect weight is the same as placing an order with the catalogue of the Universe. You look through the catalogue, choose the perfect weight, place your order, and then it is delivered to you.

Make it your intention to look for, admire, and inwardly praise people with your idea of perfect-weight bodies. Seek them out and as you admire them and feel the feelings of that-you are summoning it to you. If you see people who are overweight, do not observe them, but immediately switch your mind to the picture of you in your perfect body and feel it.

Step 3: Receive
You must feel good. You must feel good about You. This is important, because you cannot attract your perfect weight if you feel bad about your body now. If you feel bad about your body, that is a powerful feeling, and you will continue to attract feeling bad about your body. You will never change your body if you are critical of it and find fault with it, and in fact you will attract more weight to you. Praise and bless every square inch of your body. Think about all the perfect things about You. As you think perfect thoughts, as you feel good about You, you are on the frequency of your perfect weight, and you are summoning perfection.

Wallace Wattles shares a wonderful tip about eating in one of his books. He recommends that when you eat, make sure you are entirely focused on the experience of chewing the food. Keep your mind present and experience the sensation of eating food, and do not allow your mind to drift to other things. Be present in your body and enjoy all the sensations of chewing the food in your mouth and swallowing it. Try it the next time you are eating. When you are completely present as you eat, the flavor of the food is so intense and magnificent; when you let your mind drift, the flavor virtually disappears. I am convinced that if we can eat our food in the present, entirely focused on the pleasurable experience of eating, the food is assimilated into our bodies perfectly, and the result in our bodies must be perfection.

The end of the story about my own weight is that I now maintain my perfect weight of 116 pounds and I can eat whatever I want. So, focus on your perfect weight.

finþaų

04-01-2015, 09:14 AM

finþaų's comprehensive guide on how not to be a fatty

Step 1: Eat less.

Step 2: Step 1.

Also

04-01-2015, 09:15 AM

ALSO, DO NOT OBSERVE FAT PEOPLE. IF THEY COME INTO YOUR LINE OF SIGHT IMMEDIATELY LOOK AWAY!

You live in the US. Must be pretty hard for you getting out of your house.

Marusya

04-01-2015, 09:24 AM

You live in the US. Must be pretty hard for you getting out of your house.

LOL You spend too much time on the internet. Internet USA is different from Real World USA. ;) Unless, of course, you live in a Walmart. :D

I live in "white, suburban America." White, suburban America is full of joggers, bicyclists, and generally fit people. Of course, because America is wealthy and extremely LARGE geographically, there is an abundance of tantalizing cuisine available EVERYWHERE. ONE MUST BE STRONG! CONSTANT VIGILANCE! :D

StormBringer

04-01-2015, 09:27 AM

If you're fat and no one has ever tried killing you because of that, that probably means it's ok.

Some places it is even recommendable: https://youtu.be/Mj5U8UbWqsk?t=26m1s

Also

04-01-2015, 09:44 AM

So you are saying that diets and gym don't work for normal people? I am sure that if that woman on the TED talk tried a diet and gym for one month would have at least some results.

Many fat people try to lose weight at all costs and can't do it or when they can they end up recovering their lost weight if not more.

It says in the video 95% of people who lose weight on a diet get it back later.

Queen B

04-01-2015, 10:22 AM

If some people feel okay with themselves being fat, then why should I have a problem?
I'm responsible for my body, as much as they are responsible for theirs.
Yes, I think that they don't respect themselves much, or they don't love themselves much, to let this happen, but then again, isn't my choice to make.
And obesity due to health reasons, is way more rare than it is mentioned.
At least for me, if I have - let's say - meet 20 obese people, only 1 is due to health
(In fact, due to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinsulinemia#Effects) problem)

Lithium

04-01-2015, 10:46 AM

Many fat people try to lose weight at all costs and can't do it or when they can they end up recovering their lost weight if not more.

It says in the video 95% of people who lose weight on a diet get it back later.

That's just an excuse :)

Skjaldemjøden

04-01-2015, 11:01 AM

47% of the Danish population is overweight, 13% morbidly so, according to the Danish ministry of health. There's a big craze going on here, with prices being raised on fatty foods and whatnot. No one is fat in my family, although there are stories about a great-great-great-great-grandmother who sat on two chairs.
I think weight has way more to do with genetics than people give it credit for. Some people just gain weight easier and thus have a harder time losing it.

Longbowman

04-01-2015, 11:19 AM

Diets are for life, not just for Christmas. If you gain weight after dieting that's because you stopped dieting. Don't blame the diet. The diet did what it said it would. 'But after I dieted I went back to eating a Big Mac for breakfast and now I look like an elephant!' Well, yes, it's the diet's fault, not the Big Mac's, and certainly not yours.

I've personally never been on a crash diet, but everyone has a diet. Mine is generally full of fruit, vegetables and lean meat, and never fast food. This is what I like to eat because my parents raised me well. If your diet is full of lard, crisps and toffee apples, you will reap what you sew. Transferring to my diet for six minutes won't help. You need to transfer for life.

Prisoner Of Ice

04-01-2015, 11:35 AM

There's two big issues.

1. Food has gotten shit. Supermarket and restaurant food in USA is barely food unless you get raw ingredients only. You can't even get pasta sauce that's not loaded with sugar any more, without getting some organic crap that's 5 bucks for a jar (what a scam).

2. Ethnix. People whose ancestors never lived in a place they have to limit their eating and so they explode to fatness as they get older.

Queen B

04-01-2015, 12:37 PM

There's two big issues.
1. Food has gotten shit. Supermarket and restaurant food in USA is barely food unless you get raw ingredients only. You can't even get pasta sauce that's not loaded with sugar any more, without getting some organic crap that's 5 bucks for a jar (what a scam).

When you say pasta sauce you mean, ready sauce or just tomato sauce?

Incel King

04-01-2015, 12:37 PM

No, it's not okay to be fat. We live in a world with limited resources, being overweight is a clear sign of being egoistic.

So what? You gonna somehow stop me from eating? I don't care about environment and race, the day I die this world would not exist for me anymore, so I don't give a fuck about yours stupid quasi racial humanistic crap philosophy and same can suck my dick with it's all high school wanna be keyboard warriors.

Velda

04-01-2015, 01:47 PM

For example this pic says,

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hLMAeaTwStc/U2_LYEfetzI/AAAAAAAAHUA/HSngURljliY/s1600/Gisele-Bundchen-HM-swimwear-02.jpg

"you are really fat". Of course the picture isn't captioned that way, it's just implied, and the model is going to pretend that she's just modelling swimwear she's not at all bullying fat and ugly women.

Lol, for example this pic says: Hahahaha, the part under my boobs, it's not me but a photoshopped male-model. Even my boobs are photoshopped, my face as well, in fact only my right eyebrow isn't photoshopped at all.
Okay, the lady in the first vid, she should not be so huge, because, it's not fun to live with a body like that. She is even not able to run or swim for a while, and she will get various diseases, but the photoshopped H&M - lady is a lie as well.
There is something like in between, which makes a person living in a healthy condition. No need to have a sixpack for a woman. Women without cellulite who tend to get sixpacks, will have stretch marks and pendulous breasts after pregnancies, as genetically termined their connective tissue is not stretchy enough btw.

dude

04-01-2015, 03:30 PM

Biggest rationalization I have ever heard. However, she is right about one things, it is not the weight what makes you healthy, but living healthy is what does it. Unfortunately for her case, when someone lives a healthy lifestyle the weight just happens.
The weight equation is simple. You consume more calories than you burn, you gain weight. Eating a variety of healthy food with enough quantities to only resupply the calories burned is the way. The problem is that this will not make you lose weight but just keep it. Fat people need to consume less calories than they are used to. There are also lots of lazy habits developed by fat people that keep them from using those extra calories. Fat people also take tend to ignore the added calories on those "little" snacks they enjoy, such as a couple of candy bars as 200 calories each, or a the yummy milk shake that packs lots of sugar with only 500~600 calories. I will not even mention the sneaky 800 calories of ice cream they take because they are just "starving".

Raikaswinþs

04-01-2015, 03:37 PM

Golda lol, un poco golda si , la veldad

Raikaswinþs

04-01-2015, 03:47 PM

1) Can you post an example of what you mean?

2) I agree, men like porn stars, women like photo/fashion models (they hate them but they want to look like them).

only for a wank or two, most wouldn't even consider them while sober. On the other hand, most guys get really turned on by "real girlfriend" porn, amateur tapes that show real people having sex is the top preferred type of vid in most porn streaming sites. Of course there's huge demand from everything from trashy oversexed, silicone enabled doll-women to she-males, people from different races/ethnicities...and lots of pervy stuff.

But like it is the case with videogames, men who enjoy playing GTA doesn't necessarily would enjoy being a gangster in real life, likewise men who like to fap to pervy porn may not actually get turned of by the same stuff in real life. Porn,as much as a way to relieve sexual tension, it's a for of escapism, just like videogames. Actuallly, the day where porn and videogames marry into something like full blown virtual reality headsets that are realistic enough, MGTOW movement may actually become a huge social problem seeing how western society treats its men this days.

finþaų

04-01-2015, 04:00 PM

Lithium

04-01-2015, 04:25 PM

So what? You gonna somehow stop me from eating? I don't care about environment and race, the day I die this world would not exist for me anymore, so I don't give a fuck about yours stupid quasi racial humanistic crap philosophy and same can suck my dick with it's all high school wanna be keyboard warriors.
Calm down, I did not even know that you exist.

Longbowman

04-01-2015, 08:24 PM

Most (straight) guys that I know consider porn stars rather vile-looking. With very few exceptions they have terrible faces underneath all of that makeup, and I despise fake breasts--I'd even go so far as to say that it's a dealbreaker.

Agreed, Mary has difficulty understanding this though and you will not get through to her. She will think you are in denial (also @Ojancanu)

Also

04-01-2015, 08:34 PM

1) Can you post an example of what you mean?

2) I agree, men like porn stars, women like photo/fashion models (they hate them but they want to look like them).

1) I mean women that are lean but with noticeable ass and boobs.

http://i0.statig.com.br/fw/91/q0/q4/91q0q4hptg3qfatti80vz17ir.jpg

2) I do like strippers/hookers/pornstars :) I'm kinda drawn to them.

Also

04-01-2015, 08:39 PM

LOL You spend too much time on the internet. Internet USA is different from Real World USA. ;) Unless, of course, you live in a Walmart. :D

I live in "white, suburban America." White, suburban America is full of joggers, bicyclists, and generally fit people. Of course, because America is wealthy and extremely LARGE geographically, there is an abundance of tantalizing cuisine available EVERYWHERE. ONE MUST BE STRONG! CONSTANT VIGILANCE! :D

Don't you guys eat pizza for breakfast?

Mary

04-01-2015, 09:19 PM

Most (straight) guys that I know consider porn stars rather vile-looking. With very few exceptions they have terrible faces underneath all of that makeup, and I despise fake breasts--I'd even go so far as to say that it's a dealbreaker.

1) Then who is paying for/consuming all the porn with porn stars? If men really thought that porn stars were vile-looking it would be a niche, yet every few years you see a bigger proportion of girls with huge silicones, lip jobs, face/nose jobs, steroid jobs, lots of make up, etc. that wouldn't be the case if it didn't sell. If you don't believe me go look at 90's porn.

2) a) Do you know what regular women's faces look like without make up? b) Do you know what regular breasts look like?

finþaų

04-01-2015, 09:21 PM

Then who is paying for/consuming all the porn with porn stars? If men really thought that porn stars were vile-looking it would be a niche, yet every few years you see a bigger proportion of girls with huge silicones, lip jobs, face/nose jobs, steroid jobs, lots of make up, etc. that wouldn't be the case if it didn't sell. If you don't believe me go look at 90's porn.

Most men are subhumans. I don't associate with subhumans.

LightHouse89

04-02-2015, 02:26 AM

Don't you guys eat pizza for breakfast?

There is everything in her little liburbia.

LightHouse89

04-02-2015, 02:27 AM

Most men are subhumans. I don't associate with subhumans.

Yes because only a minority of elite superhumans consider themselves elves and play morrowind. Everyone else is a subhuman.

Queen B

04-02-2015, 06:49 AM

2) I agree, men like porn stars, women like photo/fashion models (they hate them but they want to look like them).
I'm pretty sure that both men and women though, like these bodies
http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aD36eOO_700b.jpg
Porn star bodies (the non-natural I mean) are ugly as fuck.

Mary

04-02-2015, 07:53 AM

I'm pretty sure that both men and women though, like these bodies
http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aD36eOO_700b.jpg
Porn star bodies (the non-natural I mean) are ugly as fuck.

1) No. Those women are fat and you know it. This is my benchmark,

http://img280.imagevenue.com/loc560/th_667933936_a10_123_560lo.jpg (http://img280.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=667933936_a10_123_560lo.jpg)

compare her to the fatties you posted.

2) Really now? This is Aletta before and after,

nude,

http://www.tu-tu-tu.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/aletta-05.jpg

http://img224.imagevenue.com/loc812/th_874493441_18_123_812lo.jpg (http://img224.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=874493441_18_123_812lo.jpg)

http://www.tu-tu-tu.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/aletta-07.jpg

http://img293.imagevenue.com/loc389/th_967831817_zpCKg_123_389lo.jpg (http://img293.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=967831817_zpCKg_123_389lo.jpg)

before she looked like any hot teenie. After she looks like fuckdoll.

Queen B

04-02-2015, 08:11 AM

1) No. Those women are fat and you know it. This is my benchmark,
http://img280.imagevenue.com/loc560/th_667933936_a10_123_560lo.jpg (http://img280.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=667933936_a10_123_560lo.jpg)
compare her to the fatties you posted.

They are size 10 and size 12. There is nothing fat about them.
http://www.oanda.com/images/currency/conversion/prt_clothes_woman.gif
They have flat stomachs, normal size butts, and big boobs.
You have to learn the difference between anorexic / skinny / thing / normal-lean / normal-curvy / curvy / chubby / fat / obese.
Kate Upton is the wet dream of most men, and she is size ten.

Mary

04-02-2015, 08:39 AM

They are size 10 and size 12. There is nothing fat about them.
http://www.oanda.com/images/currency/conversion/prt_clothes_woman.gif
They have flat stomachs, normal size butts, and big boobs.
You have to learn the difference between anorexic / skinny / thing / normal-lean / normal-curvy / curvy / chubby / fat / obese.
Kate Upton is the wet dream of most men, and she is size ten.

1) Size 10 is fat, size 12 is huge. There's no reason for any woman to be that big.

2) A woman should be about 15-20% body-fat,

http://cdn.builtlean.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/body-fat-percentage-women.jpg

compare to the women you posted,

http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aD36eOO_700b.jpg

3) If we're talking sizes 4, 6, 8 UK are normal depending on your build, 10 is fat, 12 is obese.

4) Kate Upton is about a 10 UK which makes her a fattie,

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8anJ7TFaXM4/UacjuNiTTXI/AAAAAAAAhTQ/oig7xiYLEZY/s640/kate+upton+74.jpg

if you look at porn, you'll see that you have to go into the BBW category to find 10's. The average porn girl is 4-6 UK with a lean body.

Velda

04-02-2015, 08:41 AM

HOT:
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mm5uw9r6oab1.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

To many muscles:
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/450pxredsonja85uaz29j7q.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Fat:
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/fatwomansittiutnwayejvl.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Too thin:
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/s2nmwg4upcy.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

So this is between 25% - 35% body fat, approx. which looks good, but it is not body fat at all, but where it is located.
It's skin texture and color in addition to that
It's the face and the hair in addition, too.
It's the overall look all-inclusive.

So, your porn stars look like cheap whores, no matter, how many bodyfat they have, which makes them unattractive.

Marilyn Monroe - do you consider her a "fattie", too, Mary? I guess you consider yourself hotter than her, right? Lol

Mary

04-02-2015, 08:49 AM

HOT:
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mm5uw9r6oab1.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

To many muscles:
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/450pxredsonja85uaz29j7q.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Fat:
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/fatwomansittiutnwayejvl.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Too thin:
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/s2nmwg4upcy.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Lol no,

hot,

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/450pxredsonja85uaz29j7q.jpg

skinny (normal for her body type),

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/s2nmwg4upcy.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

fat,

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mm5uw9r6oab1.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

land whale,

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/fatwomansittiutnwayejvl.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Velda

04-02-2015, 08:57 AM

fat

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mm5uw9r6oab1.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

This is a picture of Marilyn Monroe, and you consider her "fat"? Lol. This is ridiculous.

Mary

04-02-2015, 09:05 AM

This is a picture of Marilyn Monroe, and you consider her "fat"? Lol. This is ridiculous.

Yeah, she was skinny-fat in general, she's fat on this pic.

Queen B

04-02-2015, 09:08 AM

1) Size 10 is fat, size 12 is huge. There's no reason for any woman to be that big.
2) A woman should be about 15-20% body-fat,
http://cdn.builtlean.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/body-fat-percentage-women.jpg
compare to the women you posted,
http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aD36eOO_700b.jpg
3) If we're talking sizes 4, 6, 8 UK are normal depending on your build, 10 is fat, 12 is obese.

Hahhahah, you have problems with numbers Mary :lol:
Medium size is fat? What is Large? What is XL , XXL then? :rotfl:

I'm 175 , and I'm 60kg. I wear 28/38 jeans (zara) So I guess I'm a fattie, although I look thinner than you :lol: :lol:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Hfjn-Hdiwcc/UBRFALTrElI/AAAAAAAAC7s/J8oHbpDXY0M/s1600/ZARA+jeans+jegging+size+chart.png

4) Kate Upton is about a 10 UK which makes her a fattie,

Hahhahahhahahahahah, then all men prefer fatties :lol: Sport's illustrated, too
Btw,
178 cm , 64kg
99-71-91.5 cm
8 (US) or 38 (EU)
34DD (or 34E)

Mary

04-02-2015, 09:29 AM

Hahhahah, you have problems with numbers Mary :lol:
Medium size is fat? What is Large? What is XL , XXL then? :rotfl:

I'm 175 , and I'm 60kg. I wear 28/38 jeans (zara) So I guess I'm a fattie, although I look thinner than you :lol: :lol:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Hfjn-Hdiwcc/UBRFALTrElI/AAAAAAAAC7s/J8oHbpDXY0M/s1600/ZARA+jeans+jegging+size+chart.png

Hahhahahhahahahahah, then all men prefer fatties :lol: Sport's illustrated, too
Btw,
178 cm , 64kg
99-71-91.5 cm
8 (US) or 38 (EU)
34DD (or 34E)

1) Yes, if we go by the natural body size for women then what we call medium today is fat. What we call small is normal/average. So normal sizes for women are UK 4, 6, 8 depending on the woman's body type. Size 10 is fat. Sizes that are 12+ is obese.

2) Post a pic and I'll tell you if you're fat.

3) I'm naturally very skinny so why do this to yourself?

4) Sports Illustrated? Maybe 70 year old men look at that. All other men look at porn. The average porn girl is 53 kilos, which makes her a UK 4-6 or US 0-2. Kate Upton is a UK 10 which makes her a fattie.

Aletta,

http://img280.imagevenue.com/loc560/th_667933936_a10_123_560lo.jpg (http://img280.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=667933936_a10_123_560lo.jpg)

Kate Upton,

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8anJ7TFaXM4/UacjuNiTTXI/AAAAAAAAhTQ/oig7xiYLEZY/s640/kate+upton+74.jpg

put yourself next to Aletta instead of Kate Upton and see how you look.

finþaų

04-02-2015, 10:19 AM

Kate Upton's body is hideous to me. Hips too narrow and/or waist too wide.

Overall (silicone breasts and whore makeup aside) I agree with Mary's ideas on proper body fat percentages. Humanity's natural state is fitness over fatness.

adsız

04-02-2015, 11:21 AM

56335
This is size what general men like..

Longbowman

04-02-2015, 12:38 PM

finþaų

04-02-2015, 12:42 PM

Which of Katie Upton and Aletta Ocean would you prefer?

The latter minus the silicone breasts.

Longbowman

04-02-2015, 12:44 PM

The latter minus the silicone breasts.

Interesting.

Even though I prefer brunettes and smaller breasts, her face is very unappealing to me, it looks pinched. The other girl's looks more pleasant.

However, the question was as they are, silicon breasts and all. What's your choice?

Taiga Lake

04-02-2015, 12:55 PM

I think making some acceptance movements is stupid, some people will always hate you for some reason, nothing can't change that, there are probably many people who hate Sami people but that's just their problem then.

Queen B

04-02-2015, 12:58 PM

Interesting.
Even though I prefer brunettes and smaller breasts, her face is very unappealing to me, it looks pinched. The other girl's looks more pleasant.
However, the question was as they are, silicon breasts and all. What's your choice?
We are talking about the body.
Since you prefer brunettes, is she better ?

http://www.dtlux.com/imagenes/9564-alyson_le-borges_6.jpg
http://www.newemotion.it/img/prodotti/fashion/fashion1115g_1.jpg
http://www.qnm.it/bellezze/modelle/alyson_le_borges/immagini_profilo/alyson_le_borges_grande.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6iXZoDftbXk/THjiqcie-EI/AAAAAAAACTE/Ej9J9OMekwM/s400/background_page2.jpg
http://www.dtlux.com/imagenes/9564-alyson_le-borges_2.jpg
http://www3.pictures.stylebistro.com/gi/Alyson+Le+Borges+Outerwear+Fur+Coat+TMp09N5NjL4l.j pg
http://img002.lazygirls.info/people/alyson_le_borges/alyson_le_borges_german_gq_february_2010_LvTBt3i.s ized.jpg

Longbowman

04-02-2015, 01:01 PM

We are talking about the body.
Since you prefer brunettes, is she better ?

http://www.dtlux.com/imagenes/9564-alyson_le-borges_6.jpg
http://www.newemotion.it/img/prodotti/fashion/fashion1115g_1.jpg
http://www.qnm.it/bellezze/modelle/alyson_le_borges/immagini_profilo/alyson_le_borges_grande.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6iXZoDftbXk/THjiqcie-EI/AAAAAAAACTE/Ej9J9OMekwM/s400/background_page2.jpg
http://www.dtlux.com/imagenes/9564-alyson_le-borges_2.jpg
http://www3.pictures.stylebistro.com/gi/Alyson+Le+Borges+Outerwear+Fur+Coat+TMp09N5NjL4l.j pg
http://img002.lazygirls.info/people/alyson_le_borges/alyson_le_borges_german_gq_february_2010_LvTBt3i.s ized.jpg

Than those other two? By light years, yes. There would not be a moment's hesitation if I were single and asked to choose between these three on purely physical appeal.

Hithaeglir

04-02-2015, 01:08 PM

I don't think that there's anything wrong ,if some people want to have some extra meat on their body.
The problem arises when the extra fat becomes a health issue.

To me the perfect weight is the one that balances the height of the person.

Mary

04-02-2015, 01:56 PM

We are talking about the body.
Since you prefer brunettes, is she better ?

http://www.dtlux.com/imagenes/9564-alyson_le-borges_6.jpg
http://www.newemotion.it/img/prodotti/fashion/fashion1115g_1.jpg
http://www.qnm.it/bellezze/modelle/alyson_le_borges/immagini_profilo/alyson_le_borges_grande.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6iXZoDftbXk/THjiqcie-EI/AAAAAAAACTE/Ej9J9OMekwM/s400/background_page2.jpg
http://www.dtlux.com/imagenes/9564-alyson_le-borges_2.jpg
http://www3.pictures.stylebistro.com/gi/Alyson+Le+Borges+Outerwear+Fur+Coat+TMp09N5NjL4l.j pg
http://img002.lazygirls.info/people/alyson_le_borges/alyson_le_borges_german_gq_february_2010_LvTBt3i.s ized.jpg

No. She's fat note how they're covering up her midsection in all the shots.

Here you can see how big she really is,

http://static.qnm.it/fotogallery/qnm_fotogallery/47893/alyson-le-borges.asp29999img1.jpg

check out the gut in this shot,

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/6/62/73/6/@/464067-alisson-le-borges-pour-intimissimi-637x0-2.jpg

and this is in low light after post processing.

Longbowman

04-02-2015, 02:00 PM

I think you're just jealous, Mary['s husband].

Mary

04-02-2015, 02:11 PM

I think you're just jealous, Mary['s husband].

Hot women are not jealous. We like hot girls too.

Peter Nirsch

04-02-2015, 02:13 PM

It's all Obese lobbies propaganda.
Obesity is a serious desease, it should be uprooted from our beloved planet earth while obese people should be punished and re-educated, because they are selfish people who waste food resources, though they know in Africa children are starving!!!

Queen B

04-02-2015, 02:18 PM

No. She's fat note how they're covering up her midsection in all the shots.
Here you can see how big she really is,
http://static.qnm.it/fotogallery/qnm_fotogallery/47893/alyson-le-borges.asp29999img1.jpg
check out the gut in this shot,
http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/6/62/73/6/@/464067-alisson-le-borges-pour-intimissimi-637x0-2.jpg
and this is in low light after post processing.
There is nothing ''fat'' in thos pics :lol:
Actually, the in the first one, she looks more skinny than the ones I posted :lol:

Btw, you have posted way more fat pictures of yourself in the past.

Than those other two? By light years, yes. There would not be a moment's hesitation if I were single and asked to choose between these three on purely physical appeal.
It was about the body - actually . (And yes, she is by far thebest of all three).
I posted her because her body is what I'd say is a perfect. Not skinny, not fat, not fake.
Upton isn't fat either - unlike what Mary things - its just that it isn't nicely balanced (too much boobs, less ass), but she has certainly better body than those fakes transvestites.

As for Mary - no matter if you say I'm fat or skinny, I'm perfectly aware of my body status,which is normal. Normal for my height, for average, for body fat, bmi, everything.
But just so you know, here I am.

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/vasoulitos/P5310422_zpsbgfe7b1i.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/vasoulitos/PA022598_zpsklrw2f96.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/vasoulitos/NIK%20580_zpsagjnajbs.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/vasoulitos/P5120049_zpspm1ak9or.jpg

Queen B

04-02-2015, 02:37 PM

before she looked like any hot teenie. After she looks like fuckdoll.
Just googled about her.
http://celebriot.com/aletta-ocean-weight-height-measurements-bra-size-ethnicity
She is 1-2 cm shorter than me, and we have the same weight :lol:

:laugh:

Rose

04-02-2015, 02:43 PM

judging people based on by their apperance is a bad thing,we are not able to choose how we look....

Queen B

04-02-2015, 02:47 PM

judging people based on by their apperance is a bad thing,we are not able to choose how we look....
Being fat or being skinny IS a choice.
Eat more or shut your mouth. That's how body changes.

Rose

04-02-2015, 02:54 PM

Being fat or being skinny IS a choice.
Eat more or shut your mouth. That's how body changes.

yes but some people are unable to lose weight because of their metobolism and such, its not all up to person

Queen B

04-02-2015, 03:00 PM

yes but some people are unable to lose weight because of their metobolism and such, its not all up to person
That's rare. 1 case out of 20 or 30 must be due to health reasons. The rest is for one reason : Food.

Mazik

04-02-2015, 03:23 PM

As my grandpa used to say to diet addicts "I'd give you a spud and a shovel at 6 in the morning, see if that works better"

A wise man.

I don't see any fat people in this crowd which consists of people who had to be up at 6 am ready to dig.

http://www.kiruna.se/ImageVaultFiles/id_6431/cf_861/10000070.jpg

http://www.kiruna.se/ImageVaultFiles/id_7007/cf_861/10000734.jpg

Mary

04-02-2015, 03:41 PM

There is nothing ''fat'' in thos pics :lol:
Actually, the in the first one, she looks more skinny than the ones I posted :lol:

Btw, you have posted way more fat pictures of yourself in the past.

1) Compare her mid section to this chart,

http://fitnuthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/body-fat-women.jpg

she's around 25% body-fat with little muscle. This makes her terrible. She also has really bad proportions (tall + apple shape, makes her look like a man) so there's nothing you can do to salvage her, she's doomed to be an ugly woman.

2) That was water weight and not fat, and I can pull it off because I have very good proportions.

It was about the body - actually . (And yes, she is by far thebest of all three).
I posted her because her body is what I'd say is a perfect. Not skinny, not fat, not fake.
Upton isn't fat either - unlike what Mary things - its just that it isn't nicely balanced (too much boobs, less ass), but she has certainly better body than those fakes transvestites.

As for Mary - no matter if you say I'm fat or skinny, I'm perfectly aware of my body status,which is normal. Normal for my height, for average, for body fat, bmi, everything.
But just so you know, here I am.

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/vasoulitos/P5310422_zpsbgfe7b1i.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/vasoulitos/PA022598_zpsklrw2f96.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/vasoulitos/NIK%20580_zpsagjnajbs.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/vasoulitos/P5120049_zpspm1ak9or.jpg

1) Look at this picture,

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4ffec9edeab8eaa216000001-960/kate-upton.jpg

now look at Aletta,

topless,

http://www.big-boob-world.com/wp-content/gallery/aletta-ocean-twitter/aletta-ocean-07.jpg

you can't be serious.

3) You have too little muscle and too high body-fat. I'm guessing you have a bad mid section, I have seen girl who had a similar body type and she had that problem, you should go for low body-fat (don't starve yourself work out instead) + a boob job, I would say about a C-cup with round implants,

http://www.skneo2.com/wp-content/uploads/2012-7/Aletta-Ocean-en-micro-bikini-10.jpg

you should also wear skimpy clothing.

-feet, go for thigh high leather boots (skip the sandals), also look for stripper boots online, consider bright pink or something,

http://leatherlustfootwear.com/images/P/easy-f.jpg

- lower body, go for pencil skirts with the boots (especially transparent ones, go for panties that show through). Stop wearing pants that's for men. Otherwise go for long transparent skirts (also with panties that show through, I've experimented with this and black tends to look the best with anything that is transparent, bright colours like pink just tend to look skin coloured).

- upper body, go for corsets, get cheap ones online, wear a short leather jacket over.

- head, go for pretty hair, long with curls at the end and make it look styled every time,

http://www.hairstylestars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/curly-hair-with-straight-bangs.jpg

go for lots of eye make up, dark around the eyes, make it look porno, like this,

http://f.internetara.com/onbellek/12/06/04/iuuq_NV_00xxx_SL_qfsgfduqfpqmf_SL_ofu0qipup_NK_qjd uvsf_NK_jnbhf_NK_nfejb0Bmfuub_NK_Pdfbo_NK_822y2294 _NK_217lc_NK_nfejb_NK_25_2NU_2_2NU__NK_nfejb_NK_27 4_2NU_9_2NU__NK_23_2NU_7_2NU_3_2NU_584_SL_kqh.jpg

- accessories, go for a thick pink collar to match the boots,

http://www.blackmarketchicago.com/images/D/SC001%20PINK%20Front-01.jpg

go for matching cuffs instead of bracelets,

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0219/1790/products/pinkcuff1_large.jpg?v=1381849799

- attitude, you have to be really, really nice.

Mary

04-02-2015, 03:45 PM

Just googled about her.
http://celebriot.com/aletta-ocean-weight-height-measurements-bra-size-ethnicity
She is 1-2 cm shorter than me, and we have the same weight :lol:

:laugh:

She's all muscle + the big silicones. Compare yourself to her in a bikini,

http://www.skneo2.com/wp-content/uploads/2012-7/Aletta-Ocean-en-micro-bikini-1.jpg

Era

04-02-2015, 03:55 PM

1) Compare her mid section to this chart,

http://fitnuthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/body-fat-women.jpg

she's around 25% body-fat with little muscle. This makes her terrible. She also has really bad proportions (tall + apple shape, makes her look like a man) so there's nothing you can do to salvage her, she's doomed to be an ugly woman.

2) That was water weight and not fat, and I can pull it off because I have very good proportions.

1) Look at this picture,

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4ffec9edeab8eaa216000001-960/kate-upton.jpg

now look at Aletta,

topless,

http://www.big-boob-world.com/wp-content/gallery/aletta-ocean-twitter/aletta-ocean-07.jpg

you can't be serious.

3) You have too little muscle and too high body-fat. I'm guessing you have a bad mid section, I have seen girl who had a similar body type and she had that problem, you should go for low body-fat (don't starve yourself work out instead) + a boob job, I would say about a C-cup with round implants,

http://www.skneo2.com/wp-content/uploads/2012-7/Aletta-Ocean-en-micro-bikini-10.jpg

you should also wear skimpy clothing.

-feet, go for thigh high leather boots (skip the sandals), also look for stripper boots online, consider bright pink or something,

http://leatherlustfootwear.com/images/P/easy-f.jpg

- lower body, go for pencil skirts with the boots (especially transparent ones, go for panties that show through). Stop wearing pants that's for men. Otherwise go for long transparent skirts (also with panties that show through, I've experimented with this and black tends to look the best with anything that is transparent, bright colours like pink just tend to look skin coloured).

- upper body, go for corsets, get cheap ones online, wear a short leather jacket over.

- head, go for pretty hair, long with curls at the end and make it look styled every time,

http://www.hairstylestars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/curly-hair-with-straight-bangs.jpg

go for lots of eye make up, dark around the eyes, make it look porno, like this,

http://f.internetara.com/onbellek/12/06/04/iuuq_NV_00xxx_SL_qfsgfduqfpqmf_SL_ofu0qipup_NK_qjd uvsf_NK_jnbhf_NK_nfejb0Bmfuub_NK_Pdfbo_NK_822y2294 _NK_217lc_NK_nfejb_NK_25_2NU_2_2NU__NK_nfejb_NK_27 4_2NU_9_2NU__NK_23_2NU_7_2NU_3_2NU_584_SL_kqh.jpg

- accessories, go for a thick pink collar to match the boots,

http://www.blackmarketchicago.com/images/D/SC001%20PINK%20Front-01.jpg

go for matching cuffs instead of bracelets,

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0219/1790/products/pinkcuff1_large.jpg?v=1381849799

- attitude, you have to be really, really nice.

:D :D :D

Unless she's working as a hooker I don't see how she can wear any of that. Really. That outfit is so dated on top of being ugly. Omg. Are you really a woman or is your taste that horrible?

Mary

04-02-2015, 04:11 PM

:D :D :D

Unless she's working as a hooker I don't see how she can wear any of that. Really. That outfit is so dated on top of being ugly. Omg. Are you really a woman or is your taste that horrible?

1) I was styling her to be a hooker, good call. I'm thinking Anita Blonde,

http://www.anitablonde.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/gallery/Anita-Blonde-as-a-maid/Anita-Blonde-as-a-maid-19.jpg

http://www.anitablonde.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/gallery/Anita-Blonde-as-a-maid/Anita-Blonde-as-a-maid-17.jpg

http://www.anitablonde.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/gallery/anitablonde_net_2013_04_29_11_10_54/anita_blonde_9.jpg

2) What is dated? Pencil skirts - timeless, leather boots - timeless, corsets - timeless, collar and cuffs - timeless.

3) Yes I am a woman and I think that it would work at least somewhat. What do you suggest instead?

Queen B

04-02-2015, 04:41 PM

3) You have too little muscle and too high body-fat. I'm guessing you have a bad mid section, I have seen girl who had a similar body type and she had that problem, you should go for low body-fat (don't starve yourself work out instead) + a boob job, I would say about a C-cup with round implants,

Last year my body fat was 23. This year I started gym (My pic with the @Mary sign I sent you?) and I'm planning on building muscles a bit, cause if you see my hands are skinny.
My bra size is 70D/75C , all natural and perfect. I wouldn't change it for plastic boobs, but thanks for the input.
I wouldn't wear anything you suggest, but thanks anyway :thumbs up

Mary

04-02-2015, 05:18 PM

Last year my body fat was 23. This year I started gym (My pic with the @Mary sign I sent you?) and I'm planning on building muscles a bit, cause if you see my hands are skinny.
My bra size is 70D/75C , all natural and perfect. I wouldn't change it for plastic boobs, but thanks for the input.
I wouldn't wear anything you suggest, but thanks anyway :thumbs up

It's not bad but it's not sexy and interesting. Look at this woman,

http://www.anitablonde.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/gallery/Anita-Blonde-naked-by-the-pool/Anita-Blonde-naked-by-the-pool-7.jpg

http://www.anitablonde.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/gallery/Anita-Blonde-naked-by-the-pool/Anita-Blonde-naked-by-the-pool-9.jpg

compare her to how you look in your pics. Which woman do you think men will pay for?

robertson

04-02-2015, 05:27 PM

People nowadays don't bully people with racism, criticizing other people's looks or for your sexual preferences. Some may call it degenerate, others would call it progressive.

Queen B

04-02-2015, 05:28 PM

It's not bad but it's not sexy and interesting. Look at this woman,
compare her to how you look in your pics. Which woman do you think men will pay for?
You don't get it, do you?
I'm not a hooker to care who will pay and what.
And I have never had a problem with men. Those I did like, always liked me back (so far at least).
And I wouldn't like a man that would pay for sex. This is too desperate.

Btw, I have a fiance, perfect in every way, don't be so concerned.:thumb001:

Manifest Destiny

04-02-2015, 05:55 PM

Mary

04-02-2015, 06:01 PM

You don't get it, do you?
I'm not a hooker to care who will pay and what.
And I have never had a problem with men. Those I did like, always liked me back (so far at least).
And I wouldn't like a man that would pay for sex. This is too desperate.

Btw, I have a fiance, perfect in every way, don't be so concerned.:thumb001:

This woman is a hooker,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_hHpP-k-A

compare yourself to her. Which woman do you think your man would rather spend his life with her or you? Sooner or later your man will see woman like her either on the Internet or IRL, then he won't want you any more.

Mary

04-02-2015, 06:08 PM

That's not a "gut".

The gut is on this picture,

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/6/62/73/6/@/464067-alisson-le-borges-pour-intimissimi-637x0-2.jpg

Manifest Destiny

04-02-2015, 06:13 PM

The gut is on this picture,

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/6/62/73/6/@/464067-alisson-le-borges-pour-intimissimi-637x0-2.jpg

That's not a "gut", either.

Era

04-02-2015, 06:16 PM

Mary this is what women wear now

http://www.express.com/

http://www.abercrombie.com/shop/us

http://shop.mango.com/US/women

http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/womens-clothing?dept=8000001&origin=topnav

Mary

04-02-2015, 06:18 PM

That's not a "gut", either.

Yes it is. If you were to turn up the light and remove the retouching it would be even bigger.

Mary

04-02-2015, 06:23 PM

Mary this is what women wear now

http://www.express.com/

http://www.abercrombie.com/shop/us

http://shop.mango.com/US/women

http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/womens-clothing?dept=8000001&origin=topnav

lol. that's what stupid and ugly women wear. Hot women wear sexy clothes.

Manifest Destiny

04-02-2015, 06:26 PM

Yes it is. If you were to turn up the light and remove the retouching it would be even bigger.

It's pretty well known that glamour photos in magazines are retouched, so it's possible that she has a gut in real life. She doesn't have a gut in either of those pictures, though.

Era

04-02-2015, 06:36 PM

lol. that's what stupid and ugly women wear. Hot women wear sexy clothes.

Take a look at their makeup also. This is what works. You really need to update yourself a little bit.

Mary

04-02-2015, 06:38 PM

It's pretty well known that glamour photos in magazines are retouched, so it's possible that she has a gut in real life. She doesn't have a gut in either of those pictures, though.

It's a big mass of fat on her lower abs per definition a gut.

Petalpusher

04-02-2015, 07:39 PM

The three of them push different kind of buttons on men... slightly more or less fat is not any issue. Kate upton has that doll face, but i don't find her that special. Alyson Le Borges is close to perfect, she is not fat. The pornstar just suggest different kind of attention.

Queen B

04-02-2015, 07:45 PM

Alyson Le Borges is close to perfect, she is not fat.
With the genes of her grandfather, it is impossible NOT to be perfect.

Arch Hades

04-02-2015, 07:46 PM

If being fat and a female is ok, why are most men so averse to obese female aesthetics? If there anything that kills a boner it's lard.

Clearly nature is telling us something, fat is unhealthy.

Mary

04-02-2015, 07:58 PM

With the genes of her grandfather, it is impossible NOT to be perfect.

She has an apple shape, that is her shoulders are wider than her hips. She is also fat which means she will put on weight on her tits, arms, and stomach but she will have skinny legs. You can see that here,

http://static1.puretrend.com.br/articles/4/11/90/4/@/103125-alyson-le-borges-marca-presenca-no-637x0-2.jpg

see how she has broad shoulders, fat arms, and a fat tummy but proportionally much skinnier legs. She is also ugly, looks like a man, has 0 sex appeal.

Here's another shot,

http://static1.puretrend.com/articles/1/89/95/1/@/1018165-alyson-le-borges-est-mannequin-580x0-2.jpg

compare her to these illustrations,

http://thehormonedoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Apple-Body-Shape-1.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CIOoVTzhGU4/TE81-ipCW8I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/fFtBzdJtUC8/s1600/apple.jpg

Petalpusher

04-02-2015, 08:06 PM

That's not her on the second pic.

mislabeled first images if you got them here : http://www.gettyimages.com/editorial/alyson-le-borges-pictures

(why am i discussing this)

Mary

04-02-2015, 08:08 PM

That's not her on the second pic.

My bad. I'll find another one.

Queen B

04-02-2015, 08:11 PM

see how she has broad shoulders, fat arms, and a fat tummy but proportionally much skinnier legs. She is also ugly, looks like a man, has 0 sex appeal.

You are posting travestite-look-alikes and she looks like a ... man according to you? (:lol: :lol:)

Anyway - Damn her,she is so ugly and she is only missing the dick :cool:

Men, don't you agree? doesn't she look like your mates? How hideous she is ...

http://data3.whicdn.com/images/64837672/original.jpg
http://www.saschalilic.com/pictures/17703-1335866999_0_3.jpg
http://images.fashionmodeldirectory.com/model/000000313161-alyson_le_borges-fit.jpg
http://www3.pictures.stylebistro.com/gi/Bulgari+Hosts+Cleopatra+Cocktail+66th+Annual+TMp09 N5NjL4l.jpg
http://www.lookdavip.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/alyson_le_borges_abito_armani_scarpe_le_silla.jpg
https://viewmanagement.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/alyson-le-borges-flavor-magazine-may-2013-5-794213.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Marc+Cain+Photocall+Mercedes+Benz+Fashion+JY7kjbcY Dzxx.jpg
http://www.dtlux.com/imagenes/16095-alyson_le_borges2.jpg
http://static1.puretrend.com/articles/1/89/95/1/@/1018165-alyson-le-borges-est-mannequin-580x0-2.jpg
http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/7407192/600full-alyson-le-borges.jpg
http://static1.puretrend.com/articles/0/89/94/0/@/1018046-alyson-le-borges-la-troisieme-fille-600x315-2.jpg
http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/2/15/15/22/@/1664831-alyson-le-borges-fille-de-anthony-950x0-3.jpg
http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/8/78/94/8/@/606987-alyson-le-borges-ravissante-a-637x0-3.jpg
Apple body - my ass
http://img004.lazygirls.info/people/alyson_le_borges/alyson_le_borges_alyson_le_borges2_YdXGJqc.sized.j pg

Petalpusher

04-02-2015, 08:16 PM

It's simple Mary

Le Borges = Wife
Upton = girlfriend
the pornstar = you know what

That's how it works. Not 20 or 25% body fat.

Mary

04-02-2015, 08:54 PM

You are posting travestite-look-alikes and she looks like a ... man according to you? (:lol: :lol:)

Anyway - Damn her,she is so ugly and she is only missing the dick :cool:

Men, don't you agree? doesn't she look like your mates? How hideous she is ...

Apple body - my ass
http://img004.lazygirls.info/people/alyson_le_borges/alyson_le_borges_alyson_le_borges2_YdXGJqc.sized.j pg

1) Look at Aletta's body,

http://myporngirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/aletta-ocean19.jpg

http://www.big-boob-world.com/wp-content/gallery/aletta-ocean-twitter/aletta-ocean-05.jpg

http://www.big-boob-world.com/wp-content/gallery/aletta-ocean-twitter/aletta-ocean-04.jpg

http://www.kanonitv.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Aletta-Ocean-Amazing-Twitter-Account-Kanoni-12.jpg

2) Here are some shots of her face,

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e7XzgCKZ6F4/UlTE-BCFiWI/AAAAAAAAAB8/ksTNqu6hrH8/s1600/292370_426804834030260_1495916191_n.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6tqxtTCYAAJOib.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MoKFh3CwAB8/Up50kyZ6ZPI/AAAAAAAARpU/-hQPLah21E0/s1600/Aletta-Ocean-3.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K0SeHB-COnQ/UFJ0oJzbpQI/AAAAAAAABtw/CbL_NTQ6aBk/s1600/AlettaOceanTurkey1.jpg

3) They've put a corset on her and taken the shot from a really weird angle. Go back and look at her pics again and you will see that her shoulders are wider than her hips.

Mary

04-02-2015, 09:17 PM

It's simple Mary

Le Borges = Wife
Upton = girlfriend
the pornstar = you know what

That's how it works. Not 20 or 25% body fat.

But suppose you married the porn star,

http://www.sensualgirls.org/media/pictures/2011-02-05-aletta-oceans-lux-fuck/02.jpg

http://www.sensualgirls.org/media/pictures/2011-02-05-aletta-oceans-lux-fuck/01.jpg

Unome

04-02-2015, 09:23 PM

Very impressive Mary, that Queen B sent you her nekkid photos… :thumbs up

Mary

04-02-2015, 09:46 PM

Very impressive Mary, that Queen B sent you her nekkid photos… :thumbs up

Sorry dude, no nudes, just a pic with a sign.

Minesweeper

04-02-2015, 09:54 PM

It might be okay for fat rhinos unable to lose weight. For me, it's sickness.

Suleiman Arian

04-02-2015, 10:16 PM

I don't hate anyone for their weight

Petalpusher

04-02-2015, 11:00 PM

But suppose you married the porn star,

http://www.sensualgirls.org/media/pictures/2011-02-05-aletta-oceans-lux-fuck/02.jpg

http://www.sensualgirls.org/media/pictures/2011-02-05-aletta-oceans-lux-fuck/01.jpg

You re devilish. I d marry the one able to be all three at once. Preferably with a wife look. Theory of everything solved.

Longbowman

04-03-2015, 01:08 AM

There's very little point arguing with Mary. Let her post, then just ignore it, and eventually she'll stop pushing her delusions.

Queen B

04-03-2015, 05:20 AM

Very impressive Mary, that Queen B sent you her nekkid photos… :thumbs up
I just sent her a pic of me with a sign, because she said I was a man :lol:

Mary

04-03-2015, 07:47 AM

You re devilish. I d marry the one able to be all three at once. Preferably with a wife look. Theory of everything solved.

You have to choose, you can have a hot woman that's really into sex but you can't have her around family and friends. Or you can have an ugly woman that you can have around family and friends, but she's not going to be into sex. In the end you will choose the sex. If you can't choose a sexual woman, and you end up with a wife, you will regret it when you're older like 50.

Queen B

04-03-2015, 08:10 AM

Also

04-03-2015, 08:31 AM

You can have anyone around anyone. Simple like that.

7eleven

04-03-2015, 08:46 AM

I wouldnt wanna be fat...

Mary

04-03-2015, 09:17 AM

You are giving him wrong choices :

1) You can have a beautiful woman that likes sex alright and you can have her around family and friends.
or
2) You can have a trans-like woman that can do anything on sex, but you can't have around family and friends.

:thumb001:

You're saying basically the same thing,

1) You can have a beautiful woman (aka ugly woman, how can she be beautiful but not hot?) that likes sex alright (aka is frigid, having sex once a week with the lights off does not qualify as sex). You can have her around family and friends because no one will get butthurt.

2) You can have a trans-like woman (a porno looking woman) that will do anything sexually (all the stuff in porn). You can't have her around family and friends because people will get butthurt because they don't have a girlfriend like that or they're not a girl like that.

Queen B

04-03-2015, 10:14 AM

No, its not the same thing - at all.

You're saying basically the same thing,

1) You can have a beautiful woman (aka ugly woman, how can she be beautiful but not hot?) that likes sex alright (aka is frigid, having sex once a week with the lights off does not qualify as sex). You can have her around family and friends because no one will get butthurt.

2) You can have a trans-like woman (a porno looking woman) that will do anything sexually (all the stuff in porn). You can't have her around family and friends because people will get butthurt because they don't have a girlfriend like that or they're not a girl like that.

Just because someone isn't making porn videos, doesn't make her frigid in sex.
You take one extreme to the other. It's not either gangbangs everyday or lights-off sex once in a week.
Its not black or white. And obviously, if he is still dating a woman, (seriously enough to meet his family) , it means that she is good enough to the sex department as well.
If she is ugly and makes horid sex, why to chose her in the first place? :cool:

And Mary ~ I don't want to hurt you, but you aren't a good judge of people and their behavior.
1) You are talking about sex so much, yet you married a man with a tiny dick - bordering micropenis, and ugly (no offence)
2) You are talking about women's clothing as boring, yet you are either wearing burga, or you are wearing some ugly suits with horrid stockings (the England photos)
3) You are talking about bodies of pornstars like aletta ocean as ideal, and then, out of AVN winners of each year, only a couple have similar to this.
5) You are trying to speak about women, but you have no real socializing with women, your arguments are based on porn or " I have a vagina, I know''.
Like the rest of us haven't a vagina or something :lol:
6) You are talking about what men want, yet, men here prove you wrong (yes, they have a dick so they know)

If this is what you - as Mary - indivudally feel, then its fine, its your choice, but don't try to convience people of what they.. think :lol:

Mary

04-03-2015, 11:45 AM

No, its not the same thing - at all.

Just because someone isn't making porn videos, doesn't make her frigid in sex.
You take one extreme to the other. It's not either gangbangs everyday or lights-off sex once in a week.
Its not black or white. And obviously, if he is still dating a woman, (seriously enough to meet his family) , it means that she is good enough to the sex department as well.
If she is ugly and makes horid sex, why to chose her in the first place? :cool:

1) Men's standard for sex is porn. If you're not like the girls in porn then you're frigid.

2) If you like sex you're going to make it into a lifestyle thing.

3) Because he can't get anything better at the moment and is hoping to trade up in the future. Let's say you want to bang Fabio but you can only get George Costanza, a woman would prefer to be alone rather than settle for George Costanza, but a man would bang George Costanza (if he was in the woman's shoes) until something better came along. He would think "sure, I can't get Fabio now, but maybe in 20 years I will have a chance, until then I'll take what I can get".

And Mary ~ I don't want to hurt you, but you aren't a good judge of people and their behavior.
1) You are talking about sex so much, yet you married a man with a tiny dick - bordering micropenis, and ugly (no offence)
2) You are talking about women's clothing as boring, yet you are either wearing burga, or you are wearing some ugly suits with horrid stockings (the England photos)
3) You are talking about bodies of pornstars like aletta ocean as ideal, and then, out of AVN winners of each year, only a couple have similar to this.
5) You are trying to speak about women, but you have no real socializing with women, your arguments are based on porn or " I have a vagina, I know''.
Like the rest of us haven't a vagina or something :lol:
6) You are talking about what men want, yet, men here prove you wrong (yes, they have a dick so they know)

If this is what you - as Mary - indivudally feel, then its fine, its your choice, but don't try to convience people of what they.. think :lol:

1) I said that women don't feel anything more than 7 cm into the pussy. I didn't say that my man had a 7 cm dick.

2) Burqa is great because you can wear anything you want under. For example I can't go to the park in my harness and collar, but with the burqa I can. Light grey is quite controversial for the legal field. The standard is black.

3) You have to look at the whole package, body + sex appeal + how special the girl is. Any woman can have a good body so it's not a meaningful measure. But if you look at body + sex appeal then you'll see a lot of difference. Forget about Aletta's body for a moment and just look at how horny she looks, she looks very horny, very cock-hungry, that's what makes the package so good.

5) I socialise with lots of women. Most of them are 5-10 years older.

6) Men say one think and think/do another is this news to you?

Mary

04-03-2015, 12:52 PM

Look at this video, note the ugly girls,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD1BIpXzkw0

if they have boyfriends (which I doubt) what do you think their men think? "I could have had the hot blonde woman, but I got an ugly girl, my life sucks". The men in the audience will want the blonde woman, they don't want the uglies.

Now suppose a woman like that walks down the street, like this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNv8qLkpN80

what do you think happens when your man sees her?

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/do-want-house.jpg

How do you think he will feel about you after having seen her?

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/154-house-do-not-want.jpg

Is that what you want?

Velda

04-03-2015, 01:25 PM

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/vasoulitos/P5120049_zpspm1ak9or.jpg

;-Ð Wow, you look gorgeous.
I have the same kind of hair btw. (look at my avatar on the profile) - but I am far toooooo fat for Mary, too, so I should shave my hair and feel ashamed. Lol

Mary, I have to admit, she is far more attractive than some of the girls you posted, I am quite sorry to say so, but I think, she is more attractive than you, Mary as well.

@Rose
Everybody looks exactly as he wants to. Of course some things are genetically determinded, or if someone is ill, but in general it's someone's personal choice to live a healthy live.

@Mary
The women in your video don't look ugly. Some men prefer blondes, some brunettes, you can't say, the one in the middle is hot, and the others are ugly. Some would really prefer the dark-haired women. Btw. I think, that blonde stuff on her head is a wig.

Manifest Destiny

04-03-2015, 02:19 PM

It's a big mass of fat on her lower abs per definition a gut.

She doesn't have a big mass of fat In those pictures.

Velda

04-03-2015, 02:20 PM

compare yourself to her. Which woman do you think your man would rather spend his life with her or you? Sooner or later your man will see woman like her either on the Internet or IRL, then he won't want you any more.

Now this is really disgusting, because, I don't like people like you to insecure some other girls, who look lightyears better that those ugly porn sluts, or whatever you poste here as attractive.
Just let me explain here. Even IF a man has seen some hooker, that does not mean, that he would leave his fiancée for her.
It's like with - compare an expensive restaurant with McDonalds.
No one wants to eat very day McDonald's food, some people eat there sometimes, if they are in a hurry and they are hungry.
They would prefer an expensive restaurant, though.

In an expensive restaurant, you can get french fries, too, and they are of a better quality, than in McDonalds.

So, no one would say, that, every person, who ate once at McDonalds, would prefer that kind of food forever.

You, Mary, argue like that. Intelligent men would prefer french fries sometimes, too, but if they can get them (even in a better quality) in an expensive restaurant -
Lol ... he would rather like to avoid McDonalds.
If you suddenly had to eat with your hands in an expensive restauant, if you'd have to use paper serviettes and things like that, then this would be quite irritating, because it does not fit at all.
You don't have to gold plate a pure gold nugget.

I hope you understand that analogy.

Mary

04-03-2015, 02:44 PM

;-Ð Wow, you look gorgeous.
I have the same kind of hair btw. (look at my avatar on the profile) - but I am far toooooo fat for Mary, too, so I should shave my hair and feel ashamed. Lol

Mary, I have to admit, she is far more attractive than some of the girls you posted, I am quite sorry to say so, but I think, she is more attractive than you, Mary as well.

@Rose
Everybody looks exactly as he wants to. Of course some things are genetically determinded, or if someone is ill, but in general it's someone's personal choice to live a healthy live.

@Mary
The women in your video don't look ugly. Some men prefer blondes, some brunettes, you can't say, the one in the middle is hot, and the others are ugly. Some would really prefer the dark-haired women. Btw. I think, that blonde stuff on her head is a wig.

It's very simple. A woman needs to have a good body and she has to be cock-hungry. Once she has those two, she needs to be special. Let's look at some examples,

Chanel Preston (7)

Slightly better than your average mainstream porn star, a little bit special. She's a pretty good Whore, she does best in Tonight's Girlfriend. She is however not special enough to be an 8.

http://i5.fuskator.com/large/c~fASwQbPwT/image-3.jpg

Jenna Haze (7)

My benchmark for a 7. Also a little bit special, her DP scenes are above average. She's a pretty good Girl Next Door.

http://i2.fuskator.com/large/douTTx4ohgQ/image-10.jpg

Sandra Parker (8)

Pretty good Gangbang Bimbo, more special than the 7's. Does well in gangbang scenes. You will remember her better than the 7's.

http://cdn-i30.definebabe.com/_idb/g/92/02/01/ed99cb5dd9/05.jpg

Latex Lucy (8)

An interesting Fuckdoll, quite special. Check her photosets. Her thing is that she really is like a doll that you can fuck, but she is only an 8 because she is not as special as she could be. Without the latex she would be pretty average.

http://bl.definefetish.com/9/99/19999/09.jpg

Cindy Dollar (9)

A very special Gangbang Bimbo. She has a very special look. She looks more obsessed with being gangbanged than Sandra Parker, therefore she is a 9.

http://i1.fuskator.com/large/eHoCRFcuVbV/Curvy-Blonde-Cindy-Dollar-with-Pierced-Tongue-from-DDF-Enjoying-Anal-5.jpg

Anita Blond (9)

A very good Whore, what she does simply works. Once again, she looks more obsessed with being a Whore than for instance Chanel Preston and that's why she ranks higher on the scale.

http://kisssex.wen.ru/ANITA_BLOND/ANITA_BLOND.jpg

Aletta Ocean (10)

She is incredibly special, lives like a Fuckdoll and is better than for instance Latex Lucy even though she doesn't wear the latex. This is a girl you will always remember.

http://i4.fuskator.com/large/njbhNPie9rO/Black-Aletta-Ocean-Wearing-Minidress-7.jpg

Melanie Moon (10)

She works with gangbangs and lives like a Fuckdoll. You can't get better than this. She is very special and is obsessed with being a gangbanged Fuckdoll.

http://ep4.xhcdn.com/000/002/174/073_1000.jpg

All of these examples are Bimbos, something that everybody can relate to.

Mary

04-03-2015, 02:47 PM

She doesn't have a big mass of fat In those pictures.

Yes, she does. In proportion to a female body that is a big mass of fat.

Mary

04-03-2015, 02:51 PM

Now this is really disgusting, because, I don't like people like you to insecure some other girls, who look lightyears better that those ugly porn sluts, or whatever you poste here as attractive.
Just let me explain here. Even IF a man has seen some hooker, that does not mean, that he would leave his fiancée for her.
It's like with - compare an expensive restaurant with McDonalds.
No one wants to eat very day McDonald's food, some people eat there sometimes, if they are in a hurry and they are hungry.
They would prefer an expensive restaurant, though.

In an expensive restaurant, you can get french fries, too, and they are of a better quality, than in McDonalds.

So, no one would say, that, every person, who ate once at McDonalds, would prefer that kind of food forever.

You, Mary, argue like that. Intelligent men would prefer french fries sometimes, too, but if they can get them (even in a better quality) in an expensive restaurant -
Lol ... he would rather like to avoid McDonalds.
If you suddenly had to eat with your hands in an expensive restauant, if you'd have to use paper serviettes and things like that, then this would be quite irritating, because it does not fit at all.
You don't have to gold plate a pure gold nugget.

I hope you understand that analogy.

Look at Anita blond. Any man would be fool not to dump his girlfriend for her. If he can't have Anita Blond then he will resent his woman and feel that his life sucks. If you don't want that to happen to you, you have to be as good as her, equally good body, equally sexual, you won't be able to be as special but matching her on looks and sex should be enough to keep the man from feeling ripped off.

Queen B

04-03-2015, 03:25 PM

blabla
1) Chanel Preston - She looks like a man. Her body is pretty average but flobby
2) Jenna Haze - cute face but make-up of the 90s. Her body is like pre-teen girl.
3) Sandra Parker - She looks transgender , old and all in the bad kind. Extremely ugly.
Her boobjob is badly done and she isn't toned either
4) Latex Lucy - Better boobjob here, but ugly body. And noone really likes to fuck a woman looking like a wrapped-up condom.
5) Cindy dollar - Pretty face - (suprising!) - but nothing special. Also a bad boobjob with a non-toned body
6) Annita blond - Average face with ugly hair and shaggy boobs.
7) Alleta Ocean - Ugly face, ugly made boobs, at least more toned than the rest.
8) Melanie moon - Ugly face fool of plastic surgeries, ugly body/chubby

And, while - some (neither the majority nor all of them) - men will grasp the chance to gangbang a chick, none of them, will want a) to share his girlfriend with other or b) have a woman/wife/mother than have sucked tones of dicks, especially not all together.
People are possesive like that (she is mine, you can't have it).

They don't respect pornstars, so, they might be ''good'' for a single fuck,just for the shake of having fucked a pornstar (despite her STDs and drug abuse) or for the shake of participating in a threesome, but they wouldn't chose her instead of another girl.

And you can see that IF a pornstart gets married, it is either a fellow pornstar/director, or someone that doesn't respect her at all (see Jenna Jameson and her abusive shortie of husband or tory black and her battered face on the mugshots).

Mary

04-03-2015, 03:50 PM

1) Chanel Preston - She looks like a man. Her body is pretty average but flobby
2) Jenna Haze - cute face but make-up of the 90s. Her body is like pre-teen girl.
3) Sandra Parker - She looks transgender , old and all in the bad kind. Extremely ugly.
Her boobjob is badly done and she isn't toned either
4) Latex Lucy - Better boobjob here, but ugly body. And noone really likes to fuck a woman looking like a wrapped-up condom.
5) Cindy dollar - Pretty face - (suprising!) - but nothing special. Also a bad boobjob with a non-toned body
6) Annita blond - Average face with ugly hair and shaggy boobs.
7) Alleta Ocean - Ugly face, ugly made boobs, at least more toned than the rest.
8) Melanie moon - Ugly face fool of plastic surgeries, ugly body/chubby

Take a topless pic of yourself, put it next to them, see what you look like.

And, while - some (neither the majority nor all of them) - men will grasp the chance to gangbang a chick, none of them, will want a) to share his girlfriend with other or b) have a woman/wife/mother than have sucked tones of dicks, especially not all together.
People are possesive like that (she is mine, you can't have it).

a) Right. "Just because I'm a lifetime subscriber to GGG does not mean that I want my girlfriend to be like that, in fact I like ugly and frigid women".

b) Yes men are possessive because they don't know any better. That's why it's the woman's job to get him to get over it so that he doesn't miss out on a lot of fun sex. Sure he will be really upset about it in the beginning but in the long run he'll be grateful that he didn't miss out like most other guys.

They don't respect pornstars, so, they might be ''good'' for a single fuck,just for the shake of having fucked a pornstar (despite her STDs and drug abuse) or for the shake of participating in a threesome, but they wouldn't chose her instead of another girl.

And you can see that IF a pornstart gets married, it is either a fellow pornstar/director, or someone that doesn't respect her at all (see Jenna Jameson and her abusive shortie of husband or tory black and her battered face on the mugshots).

So a man wants to fuck Anita Blond once, then he wants to go back to a woman that is uglier, less sexual, and less special? It's like saying "a man wants to drive a Ferrari once, but then he wants to go back to a proper family car". It's enough for a man to be around a hot woman long enough and he will lose it completely, in fact some guys lose it just from seeing a hot woman on the street and they're never the same again.

щрбл

04-03-2015, 04:19 PM

Mary

04-03-2015, 04:20 PM

Just because way too much BS has been said on this thread...
For example, this is what guys look for. No porn stars, no silicone, no lip injections, no heavy makeup, no chains, no whips, etc.
http://s1.favim.com/orig/20/girl-lady-lady-on-the-street-street-Favim.com-205764.jpg

Then why don't guys pay for porn with women like that? Why do they pay for porn with bimbos instead?

http://u2.babesandstars.com/galleries/50000/50877/06.jpg

Harley

04-03-2015, 04:29 PM

Topic title: Why it's okay to be fat.

Topic reality: Why it's okay to have a butter face and huge fake breasts.

щрбл

04-03-2015, 04:37 PM

Then why don't guys pay for porn with women like that? Why do they pay for porn with bimbos instead?

http://u2.babesandstars.com/galleries/50000/50877/06.jpg

Very few people actually pay for porn. For example, this website ranks the top female pornographic actresses. The first three look pretty normal. (without the ugly makeup of course)
http://www.ranker.com/list/top-20-pornstars-_female_/ratamatata?var=2&utm_expid=16418821-93.i9oekwBAQpeI307JNFGPBA.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.fr%2F
What would be more interesting is to see a Google ranking. Also, dudes fantasize more about their female co-workers/neighbours/classmates than pornographic actress. Believe me, we do talk about these things. :)

Mary

04-03-2015, 04:39 PM

Topic title: Why it's okay to be fat.

Topic reality: Why it's okay to have a butter face and huge fake breasts.

It's on the topic of what's attractive/unattractive. It's not just okay to have huge silicones it's generally better than having natural boobs.

Mary

04-03-2015, 04:42 PM

Very few people actually pay for porn. For example, this website ranks the top female pornographic actresses. The first three look pretty normal. (without the ugly makeup of course)
http://www.ranker.com/list/top-20-pornstars-_female_/ratamatata?var=2&utm_expid=16418821-93.i9oekwBAQpeI307JNFGPBA.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.fr%2F
What would be more interesting is to see a Google ranking. Also, dudes fantasize more about their female co-workers/neighbours/classmates than pornographic actress. Believe me, we do talk about these things. :)

1) Men as a group pay for porn, so porn represents the collective sexual desires of men. There are no "regular" women in porn while bimbos are an extremely popular category.

2) What are they ranked according to?

3) Then why doesn't porn feature realistic female co-workers/neighbours/classmates? I mean that the co-workers/neighbours/classmates in porn look nothing like the women IRL.

Petalpusher

04-03-2015, 04:45 PM

You have to choose, you can have a hot woman that's really into sex but you can't have her around family and friends. Or you can have an ugly woman that you can have around family and friends, but she's not going to be into sex. In the end you will choose the sex. If you can't choose a sexual woman, and you end up with a wife, you will regret it when you're older like 50.

1) Men's standard for sex is porn. If you're not like the girls in porn then you're frigid.

6) Men say one think and think/do another is this news to you?

I ll never meet any of you, nor i really care what people may think of my opinion around here. I ve no reason not being honest, i can elaborate further :

The pornstar Aleta something for a week(end), sure, i mean even her duck lips and plastic tits are arcaiclly attractive in some way, maybe the idea that she overdoes all this to please us, trigger for sure something in men. Sometimes there's more than what meets the eye, she could turned into a wife, very unlikely but who knows. From my experience ironically this type of girls are the most frigid, mentally unstable, borring,..once all the bells, whistles and purely physical sex fade away (very quickly).
The other ones you posted are ugly in my eyes honestly (im sure you can find better), which tends to confirm you are a girl since you have no idea of what we really are attracted to physically (typical). Except Anita blonde maybe. Like an intermediate between the wife and the pornstar. Mary, your score is 2/10.

We are less primitive than you might think, there is the physical sex any guy would want with the "pornstar type" and what i would call a more cerebral sex which can be as attractive if not often 10 times more exciting to us (yes to men) with the "wife type / woman of your life type", and she doesn't even need to be an expert at everything, not at all. She can have plenty of imperfections, that would be part of her charm (even sexually speaking).
The kind who displays a big red flashing light over her head telling us to stop being stupid when she is around and do everything right with her. The one you fantasize to make love to all your life, not getting a blowjob by (of course it comes second).

You discriminate each type and make up your own bias hierarchy. We tend to not seggregate pornstars in great kindness, but seriously we will most of the time end up chasing the wife type.

Mary

04-03-2015, 05:05 PM

I ll never meet any of you, nor i really care what people may think of my opinion around here. I ve no reason not being honest, i can elaborate further :

The pornstar Aleta something for a week(end), sure, i mean even her duck lips and plastic tits are arcaiclly attractive in some way, maybe the idea that she overdoes all this to please us, trigger for sure something in men. Sometimes there's more than what meets the eye, she could turned into a wife, very unlikely but who knows. From my experience ironically this type of girls are the most frigid, mentally unstable, borring,..once all the bells, whistles and purely physical sex fade away (very quickly).
The other ones you posted are ugly in my eyes honestly (im sure you can find better), which tends to confirm you are a girl since you have no idea of what we really are attracted to physically (typical). Except Anita blonde maybe. Like an intermediate between the wife and the pornstar. Mary, your score is 2/10.

Men pay to see Aletta do vulgar and degrading sex acts. No one pays to see regular women do that. So if you go by what men do instead of what they say that they would do, in a hypothetical scenario, I'm spot on.

We are less primitive than you might think, there is the physical sex any guy would want with the "pornstar type" and what i would call a more cerebral sex which can be as attractive if not often 10 times more exciting to us (yes to men) with the "wife type / woman of your life type", and she doesn't even need to be an expert at everything, not at all. She can have plenty of imperfections, that would be part of her charm (even sexually speaking).
The kind who displays a big red flashing light over her head telling us to stop being stupid when she is around and do everything right with her. The one you fantasize to make love to all your life, not getting a blowjob by (of course it comes second).

You discriminate each type and make up your own bias hierarchy. We tend to not seggregate pornstars in great kindness, but seriously we will most of the time end up chasing the wife type.

Weak White Knighting, bro. You need to add that you're into fatties and that you don't expect sex in a relationship if you want to compete.

щрбл

04-03-2015, 05:11 PM

1) Men as a group pay for porn, so porn represents the collective sexual desires of men. There are no "regular" women in porn while bimbos are an extremely popular category.

2) What are they ranked according to?

3) Then why doesn't porn feature realistic female co-workers/neighbours/classmates? I mean that the co-workers/neighbours/classmates in porn look nothing like the women IRL.

They were ranked by user voting + or -, but there are tones of rankings depicting tones of different results.

Amateur films are rather popular too. Also, I think you underestimate guys by thinking they are just walking cocks! "Normal" porn actresses of course look nothing like people IRL. The point is to make it look like it's real and make the (male) audience believe your (female) neighbour or coworker could suddenly turn slutty on you. Which sometimes happen too... As an example, when I was in high school, we had that hot physics teacher and every single time, the only discussion during the pause was about how good looking she was. And obviously everyone had access to internet and porn.

Longbowman

04-03-2015, 05:20 PM

Mary trying to validate her life choices as usual.

Why don't film stars and other alphas marry porn stars?

Mary

04-03-2015, 05:21 PM

They were ranked by user voting + or -, but there are tones of rankings depicting tones of different results.

Amateur films are rather popular too. Also, I think you underestimate guys by thinking they are just walking cocks! "Normal" porn actresses of course look nothing like people IRL. The point is to make it look like it's real and make the (male) audience believe your (female) neighbour or coworker could suddenly turn slutty on you. Which sometimes happen too... As an example, when I was in high school, we had that hot physics teacher and every single time, the only discussion during the pause was about how good looking she was. And obviously everyone had access to internet and porn.

1) So some unknown people voted on a website? That's seems scientific.

2) No. The "amateur" stuff isn't actual amateur it's pro or pro-am.

3) That's because you didn't know what she looked like naked, if you did you would most likely claw your eyes out.

Mary

04-03-2015, 05:30 PM

Mary trying to validate her life choices as usual.

Why don't film stars and other alphas marry porn stars?

1) I got married, got a job, went to university, had kids. Yes those life choices need to be validated because they are so unusual. Very few women do that.

2) Because a) men generally marry the first woman that's willing to have sex with them b) most men think that the woman they marry is going to turn into a porn star in the future.

leisitox

04-03-2015, 05:31 PM

2) b) most men think that the woman they marry is going to turn into a porn star in the future.

Wtf xD

Petalpusher

04-03-2015, 05:32 PM

Men pay to see Aletta do vulgar and degrading sex acts. No one pays to see regular women do that.

That's right, and i have been tryin to explain to you precisely why. Read again maybe.

Weak White Knighting, bro. You need to add that you're into fatties and that you don't expect sex in a relationship if you want to compete.

Oh yea give me the SH twaddle. You want me(n) to prefer "Aletta", i didn't say that nothing close to "the things i would do to her" pop up in my mind when i see her.
Again im explaining to you, that she doesnt directly qualify on top of the food chain in every situation, we can have more subtle reasoning in the background. It seems this is the most difficult part for you to accept.

Mary

04-03-2015, 05:35 PM

Wtf xD

A man meets a woman, they have sex, she's not going to do anal the first time they have sex, she might not do anal the first year that they are having sex, the man thinks that it's not a big deal because she will start doing it in the future, so he sticks around for year after year hoping that it will happen eventually. It's not limited to anal it can be anything the man likes, such as the woman swallowing, sex toys, BDSM, swapping, etc.

leisitox

04-03-2015, 05:40 PM

A man meets a woman, they have sex, she's not going to do anal the first time they have sex, she might not do anal the first year that they are having sex, the man thinks that it's not a big deal because she will start doing it in the future, so he sticks around for year after year hoping that it will happen eventually. It's not limited to anal it can be anything the man likes, such as the woman swallowing, sex toys, BDSM, swapping, etc.

Thats not "porn star", just fetishes.

Mary

04-03-2015, 05:43 PM

That's right, and i have been tryin to explain to you precisely why. Read again maybe.

You haven't explained why no one pays to see regular women do that. If men were into regular women they would pay to see them naked/have sex.

Oh yea give me the SH twaddle. You want me(n) to prefer "Aletta", i didn't say that nothing close to "the things i would do to her" pop up in my mind when i see her.
Again im explaining to you, that she doesnt direclty qualify on top of the food chain in every situation, we can have more subtle reasoning in the background. It seems this is the most difficult part for you to accept.

1) I don't want men to prefer Aletta, I already know what men like.

2) You've never even seen a woman like Aletta IRL so you don't know what you're talking about. I am a woman like Aletta and I've been there, done that, the guy will talk a lot about how he wants a nice and proper girlfriend, but he won't stop fucking you, after a while he'll drop the act and just fuck you. No man actually means the "I want a nice girlfriend" routine because all the "nice girlfriends" I knew never got boyfriends.

Mary

04-03-2015, 05:45 PM

Thats not "porn star", just fetishes.

They want a hot girl to do those things (whatever the guy is into) and that's only going to happen with a girl that is a "porn star". The regular girl is going to get fat and stop having sex once the guy has married her.

щрбл

04-03-2015, 05:45 PM

1) So some unknown people voted on a website? That's seems scientific.

2) No. The "amateur" stuff isn't actual amateur it's pro or pro-am.

3) That's because you didn't know what she looked like naked, if you did you would most likely claw your eyes out.

Well, that's how statistics are done. But after further investigation on a well-known platform which I'm not going to quote (starts with x. :)), ranking seems to be extremely dependent on the considered country. You can find actually find many high ranked trashy actors as well as normal looking ones.

I wouldn't know.

I haven't seen her naked, however she still lives in my area 10 laters later and I saw her (during the summer) with her daughter who must be around 18ish... And both of them are pretty hot, even though the mum has obviously aged a bit. xD

Mary

04-03-2015, 05:51 PM

Well, that's how statistics are done. But after further investigation on a well-known platform which I'm not going to quote (starts with x. :)), ranking seems to be extremely dependent on the considered country. You can find actually find many high ranked trashy actors as well as normal looking ones.

I wouldn't know.

I haven't seen her naked, however she still lives in my area 10 laters later and I saw her (during the summer) with her daughter who must be around 18ish... And both of them are pretty hot, even though the mum has obviously aged a bit. xD

1) Look at the girls that stay in the industry for several years.

2) If the girl looks hot she's not an amateur.

3) Post a pic of a woman that looks like her and I'll tell you approximately what she looks like naked. You can post a girl that looks like the daughter too.

Longbowman

04-03-2015, 06:37 PM

1) I got married, got a job, went to university, had kids. Yes those life choices need to be validated because they are so unusual. Very few women do that.

2) Because a) men generally marry the first woman that's willing to have sex with them b) most men think that the woman they marry is going to turn into a porn star in the future.

1) Not those choices, more specifically who you married, why you live as you do, etc.

You desperately need to feel superior, just like everyone else. You've found a unique enough way.

2) Men usually do not marry the first woman they sleep with :laugh:

Petalpusher

04-03-2015, 06:39 PM

You haven't explained why no one pays to see regular women do that. If men were into regular women they would pay to see them naked/have sex.

Im assuming that's because you are a sub or switch, you are seeing it like that. We don't wan't to perform "vulgar and degrading sex acts" to every women we met. Sometimes we do, sometimes we just pretend as well. You really oversimplifies men psychology.

1) I don't want men to prefer Aletta, I already know what men like.

2) You've never even seen a woman like Aletta IRL so you don't know what you're talking about. I am a woman like Aletta and I've been there, done that, the guy will talk a lot about how he wants a nice and proper girlfriend, but he won't stop fucking you, after a while he'll drop the act and just fuck you. No man actually means the "I want a nice girlfriend" routine because all the "nice girlfriends" I knew never got boyfriends.

1) You don't have a clue 2) I live in an area where the main economic activity consists of selling Ferraries, partying on stupidly big yachts and shower with Champagne. I ve seen and met some (they are surprisingly attracted there). There is different flavours of Aletta at every street corner here, just slightly not as cheap looking. This could be a bias, you get accustomed to it fast and tend to look for different type of women at some point. More generally, also find other interests than trying to bang everything hanging around hot in skirt.

Mary

04-03-2015, 07:07 PM

1) Not those choices, more specifically who you married, why you live as you do, etc.

You desperately need to feel superior, just like everyone else. You've found a unique enough way.

2) Men usually do not marry the first woman they sleep with :laugh:

1) Yes a guy with good grades that went to law school, and then I became a housewife, very controversial.

2) They marry the first woman that's willing to have sex with them regularly that's what I've seen.

Im assuming that's because you are a sub or switch, you are seeing it like that. We don't wan't to perform "vulgar and degrading sex acts" to every women we met. Sometimes we do, sometimes we just pretend as well. You really oversimplifies men psychology.

That has nothing to do with my argument, if men liked regular women, they would pay to see regular women naked. Look at Playboy their concept is to take photo models, dress them up as regular girls, and sell it to men as "this could be your neighbour, co-worker, classmate, etc." how many men buy Playboy today? Practically no one. So not even when you have photo models pretending to be regular women are men interested.

1) You don't have a clue 2) I live in an area where the main economic activity consists of selling Ferraries, partying on stupidly big yachts and shower with Champagne. I ve seen and met some (they are surprisingly attracted there). There is different flavours of Aletta at every street corner here, just slightly not as cheap looking. This could be a bias, you get accustomed to it fast and tend to look for different type of women at some point. More generally, also find other interests than trying to bang everything hanging around hot in skirt.

1) As a woman I've been able to experiment for many years to find out what works.

2) Aletta is in the top 10%. And she is the top 10% of that 10%. On average there will be 1 top 10% girl in every high school class. So you will see a girl like that in 1 out of 10 high school classes. If you had seen a girl like that you would probably have remembered her.

Watch_Owl

04-03-2015, 07:14 PM

It's not okay to be fat. Okay means to be accepted. Accepted in what exactly? That is what was never specified.

Mary

04-03-2015, 07:20 PM

It's not okay to be fat. Okay means to be accepted. Accepted in what exactly? That is what was never specified.

Around 60-90% of women are fat depending on what standards you use. If it wasn't acceptable for women to be fat, they wouldn't be fat. The fact that the majority are fat indicates that it's not just okay it's socially expected.

Watch_Owl

04-03-2015, 07:26 PM

Around 60-90% of women are fat depending on what standards you use. If it wasn't acceptable for women to be fat, they wouldn't be fat. The fact that the majority are fat indicates that it's not just okay it's socially expected.

Socially expected in what exactly? Tolerance? Fat people are already tolerated.

Harley

04-03-2015, 07:38 PM

It's on the topic of what's attractive/unattractive. It's not just okay to have huge silicones it's generally better than having natural boobs.

In the video Also posted, the speaker's main point was about fostering positive body image at any size.

It is my own opinion that a person individually needs only to strive towards what is positive for him or her. Sometimes really strange ideology can prevent that happiness.

Even the difference between your lady ideals and what is wife to some other members is a difference in perception. Any of those wife types could be wearing anything you posted underneath their clothes. Who feels happy with him or herself at the end of the day? There's your winner.

Watch_Owl

04-03-2015, 07:39 PM

So I wanted to add fat people are tolerated. However, people have a biased against obese people. There was a study showing when people saw obese people, they felt like throwing up on the floor because the brain thought it saw a a disease. Is it possible to tolerate morbidly obese people? Yes and that is with the help of reading books on obese people. Reading books on those who are different than you help create tolerance and empathy.

Mary

04-03-2015, 07:42 PM

Socially expected in what exactly? Tolerance? Fat people are already tolerated.

Women get the message from other women that they are expected to be fat and ugly. If you are not fat and ugly you will be shamed by other women. Here's how it works, (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/04/AR2010030401436.html)

TOKYO -- As women in the United States and across the industrialized world get fatter, most Japanese women are getting skinnier.

Still, many view themselves as overweight.

"I am quite fat, actually," said Michie Takagi, a 70-year-old grandmother and retired clothing store executive. She has a body mass index (BMI) of 19.9, which is at the thin end of normal. While the average American woman has gained about 25 pounds over the past 30 years, Takagi has gained 4.5 pounds, typical for her age cohort in Japan, according to U.S. and Japanese government figures.

Skinnier still are Japanese women younger than 60, who were thin by international standards three decades ago and who, taken as a group, have since been steadily losing weight.

The trend is most pronounced among women in their 20s. A quarter-century ago, they were twice as likely to be thin as overweight; now they are four times more likely to be thin. For U.S. women of all ages, obesity rates have about doubled since 1980, rising from 17 percent to 35 percent.

Social pressure -- women looking critically at other women -- is the most important reason female skinniness is ascendant in Japan, according to Hisako Watanabe, a child psychiatrist and assistant professor of pediatrics at the Keio University School of Medicine in Tokyo.

"Japanese women are outstandingly tense and critical of each other," said Watanabe, who has spent 34 years treating women with eating disorders. "There is a pervasive habit among women to monitor each other with a serious sharp eye to see what kind of slimness they have."

it's the same in the West but the other way around, if you're not fat you will get hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8DaT0voKHA

Petalpusher

04-03-2015, 07:48 PM

That has nothing to do with my argument, if men liked regular women, they would pay to see regular women naked. Look at Playboy their concept is to take photo models, dress them up as regular girls, and sell it to men as "this could be your neighbour, co-worker, classmate, etc." how many men buy Playboy today? Practically no one. So not even when you have photo models pretending to be regular women are men interested.

I skipped to that one because i believe it's the best line you ve dropped this week (it tells something..)

Mary you are funny after all. I like you so i want to see you naked right now !

We don't want to see the regular women we like, naked, that is a big spoiler. We first and foremost want to conquer the land. Then, explore the landscapes.

As teenage boys we ve all "read" playboys kind of magazines, the difference is we had to imagine the whole story on our own. We had fantasies because the chick was beautiful overall, even with clothes on. I think it was a lot more exciting than the actual porn clips.
Today is the dumbed down version, it gets to the point, just fucking. So it leads to only worship body features by parts like you do. I believe you are, among others, a perfect product of this evolution.

щрбл

04-03-2015, 07:55 PM

1) Look at the girls that stay in the industry for several years.

2) If the girl looks hot she's not an amateur.

3) Post a pic of a woman that looks like her and I'll tell you approximately what she looks like naked. You can post a girl that looks like the daughter too.

1. I'll try to dig some stats if I'm not too lazy and my (very slow) computer allows me to search through pictures and videos.. :)

2. Completely disagree. Hot is subjective. While your Anetta and the other siliconed girls you posted are trashy, this one is hot for example. Actually a pretty face plays a huge role.
http://news.upperplayground.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/0bba78cc1205x466.jpg.jpg

3. Number 4 with a bigger boobage. (Do not look at the faces, just the body shape. I wouldn't be able to fine a similar one)
http://cdn2.hellogiggles.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/31/foz-meadows-body-chart-2.jpg
and
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/trendy-young-city-girl-21761465.jpg

edit: I think you haven't got the slightest idea of what guys prefer in general. :rolleyes:

Mary

04-03-2015, 08:02 PM

I skipped to that one because i believe it's the best line you ve dropped this week (it tells something..)

Mary you are funny after all. I like you so i want to see you naked right now !

We don't want to see the regular women we like, naked, that is a big spoiler. We first and foremost want to conquer the land. Then, explore the landscapes.

As teenage boys we ve all "read" playboys kind of magazines, the difference is we had to imagine the whole story on our own. We had fantasies because the chick was beautiful overall, even with clothes on. I think it was a lot more exciting than the actual porn clips.
Today is the dumbed down version, it gets to the point, just fucking. So it leads to only worship body features by parts like you do. I believe you are, among others, a perfect product of this evolution.

1) It's a spoiler to see women naked? Do you buy a car without seeing it too because it would be a spoiler to look at it before you buy it?

2) Do you look at the poster of a movie and imagine it instead of watching the movie? Your argument is wrong because you don't know anything about sex (or what you're supposed to like) if no one shows you. It's like you've never driven a car in your life, you've only looked at pictures in a book, and then you're supposed to buy a car for the rest of your life. How well are you going to do with no experience and no information?

3) Can you give an example of what you mean?

Mary

04-03-2015, 08:10 PM

1. I'll try to dig some stats if I'm not too lazy and my (very slow) computer allows me to search through pictures and videos.. :)

2. Completely disagree. Hot is subjective. While your Anetta and the other siliconed girls you posted are trashy, this one is hot for example. Actually a pretty face plays a huge role.
http://news.upperplayground.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/0bba78cc1205x466.jpg.jpg

3. Number 4 with a bigger boobage. (Do not look at the faces, just the body shape. I wouldn't be able to fine a similar one)
http://cdn2.hellogiggles.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/31/foz-meadows-body-chart-2.jpg
and
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/trendy-young-city-girl-21761465.jpg

edit: I think you haven't got the slightest idea of what guys prefer in general. :rolleyes:

This is really pathetic. I'm not going to reply to it.

Mary

04-03-2015, 08:15 PM

Back to my example with Japan instead, (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/02/diminishing-waistlines-a-national-health-problem-in-japan/)

TOKYO - Americans may be battling the bulge, but the Japanese are struggling to expand their waistlines.

The Health Ministry said the number of young, skinny women has risen to troubling levels. A record 29 percent of those in their 20s are underweight, according to a recent government survey. Those with a body mass index of less than 18.5 percent are considered underweight by Japanese standards.

"The women are not at risk of health problems yet, but we are making it a goal to bring the number down to 20 percent in the next decade," Yoko Saito, at the Health Ministry's Movement to Improve National Health, told ABC News.

Twenty-four-year-old Shiho Aoki said the pressure for young women to be thin is greater than ever, largely because popular Japanese models are getting skinnier. At 5 feet 1 and weighing 100 pounds, Aoki said she was considered "fat" among friends.

"I had a child 8 months ago, but I've been struggling to lose weight ever since," Aoki told ABC News. "I'm very jealous of my friends who are skinny."

Nineteen-year-old Mika Asai said her friends skip at least one meal a day, to cut back on calorie intake. She's refused to follow suit, so far

"I love food too much to diet," Asai told ABC News, though she's hardly "fat" at 5 feet 2 and 110 pounds. "I'd rather be healthy."

Japan is already among the thinnest industrialized nations, thanks to a diet of fish, vegetables - and small portions.

so why is it that Japanese women are getting skinnier, while Western women are getting fatter? Because for them it's shameful to be a fat woman, while in the West it's socially approved for women to be fat.

Wadaad

04-03-2015, 08:22 PM

From 3-12 I was an obese child. It was mostly because I was an introvert and preferred my encyclopedia set to playing outdoors. In my teen years I got into sports and became active physically, so that by 16 I was a very fit young lad. Diet isnt't it...it's not 'you are what you eat', it's 'you are how you live'.

RandoBloom

04-03-2015, 08:24 PM

Back to my example with Japan instead, (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/02/diminishing-waistlines-a-national-health-problem-in-japan/)

so why is it that Japanese women are getting skinnier, while Western women are getting fatter? Because for them it's shameful to be a fat woman, while in the West it's socially approved for women to be fat.

Its the value of sex perception that is different. In Japan sex is not as highly valued as in the west. In the west most important thing is that it has a hole
Standards come second. As such quality suffers greatly.

Wadaad

04-03-2015, 08:24 PM

Back to my example with Japan instead, (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/02/diminishing-waistlines-a-national-health-problem-in-japan/)

so why is it that Japanese women are getting skinnier, while Western women are getting fatter? Because for them it's shameful to be a fat woman, while in the West it's socially approved for women to be fat.

If you're a shapely fat woman + right curves, you wont have problems, but someone like the lady in the OP will definitely be fat shamed here.

dude

04-03-2015, 08:29 PM

Back to my example with Japan instead, (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/02/diminishing-waistlines-a-national-health-problem-in-japan/)
so why is it that Japanese women are getting skinnier, while Western women are getting fatter? Because for them it's shameful to be a fat woman, while in the West it's socially approved for women to be fat.
Because of the feminazis in the west. They believe that men are obligated to be aroused by their fat asses. The mentality is that they should be "loved as they are" as opposed to make themselves lovable.

Petalpusher

04-03-2015, 08:43 PM

1) It's a spoiler to see women naked? Do you buy a car without seeing it too because it would be a spoiler to look at it before you buy it?

2) Do you look at the poster of a movie and imagine it instead of watching the movie? Your argument is wrong because you don't know anything about sex (or what you're supposed to like) if no one shows you. It's like you've never driven a car in your life, you've only looked at pictures in a book, and then you're supposed to buy a car for the rest of your life. How well are you going to do with no experience and no information?

3) Can you give an example of what you mean?

You rather asking me if i want to read the whole maintenance book of a Ferrari before i buy it. We size women accurately in their daily apparels every day since puberty. We are not all retards Mary, we know the tricks. We ll carry on this fascinating discussion maybe when you ll have hair and better analogies.

Mary

04-03-2015, 08:48 PM

If you're a shapely fat woman + right curves, you wont have problems, but someone like the lady in the OP will definitely be fat shamed here.

Look at this pic, (http://www.sodahead.com/living/favorite-female-body-type/question-2475855/)

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/3/0/2/3/2/0/5/body-type-70012152525.jpeg#body%20type

About 65% of Americans (both men and women) chose #1, size 0.
About 20% chose #2, size 2.
About 10% chose #3, size 6.
Only about 5% chose one of the others.
The average American woman is #5.

The average 25 year old woman (about 50%) is a 4-5 on this chart. 10% of women look like 1 and 2. If you're American it's 5%.

Mary

04-03-2015, 08:52 PM

You rather asking me if i want to read the whole maintenance book of a Ferrari before i buy it. We size women accurately in their daily apparels every day since puberty. We are not all retards Mary, we know the tricks. We ll carry on this fascinating discussion maybe when you ll have hair and better analogies.

Dude, you live in France, you have no clue what women look like naked, and you live in France. Your life is going to suck.

Wadaad

04-03-2015, 08:53 PM

number 5 has a better body than you though

Mary

04-03-2015, 08:57 PM

number 5 has a better body than you though

I'm glad you think so because that's what you will be fucking.

Hithaeglir

04-03-2015, 09:01 PM

Thank you for the entertainment Mary xD

Also

04-03-2015, 09:03 PM

Why are women always ruining my threads? ;/ :P

Wadaad

04-04-2015, 11:57 AM

I'm glad you think so because that's what you will be fucking.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdN8Cy5IQAEYkLv.jpg

...her body is curvy yet firm, while yours is emaciated yet flabby. Her body screams warmth, yours screams frigidity

Mary

04-04-2015, 01:53 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdN8Cy5IQAEYkLv.jpg

...her body is curvy yet firm, while yours is emaciated yet flabby. Her body screams warmth, yours screams frigidity

Sounds great,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PLQaLyjvkg

Skulgrimen

04-04-2015, 07:38 PM

http://sluthate.com/uploads/imgur/dXiU7dx.jpg

de Burgh II

04-04-2015, 08:37 PM

At the end of the day, it's the person's own personal choice to how they want to live their life. It doesn't matter if a person is fat, skinny, a health-nut, etc. It boils down to the person's personality overall that will show their true colors. At the same time, we live in a generation that is hyper-sexualized with unrealistic expectations that you see in the media as the "ideal" when its nothing more than overly-represented hogwash in futile attempts to be "normative". If this is the "absolute" aim to achieve in life then the person should reassess their own priorities since there is more to life that we overlook sometimes.

Also, since were quite overindulgent today compared to older generations its not a surprise that we distort are own "hardships" compared to generations before us which we have alot easier. If a person wants a change in their life you have to personally make it happen. So coming up with scapegoats for one's problems doesn't strengthen nor validate anything besides reinforcing our own delusions. Simply accept yourself for who you are first, then endeavor to make a difference in your life. It may be true that on average some people may be more disadvantaged than others, but the notion still stands. Don't base your endeavors on what others think of you; much rather do it to benefit yourself in the long run since their irrelevant to begin with.

Also

04-05-2015, 12:34 AM

http://sluthate.com/uploads/imgur/dXiU7dx.jpg

Men do tend to self-monitor themselves more, most women have no qualms about their shallowness and trivialities, but there is a lot of fat shame for both men and women. The posts in this thread evidentiate that.

However, this chart is very representative of many feminists, I know some, they are overweight/obese and talk about how they don't have to fit society's standards for looks and how men shouldn't have the right to turn women down for being overweighted or for their sexual past, but yet freely discriminate men based on their physical characteristics.

rhiannon

04-15-2015, 09:53 AM

It's not bad but it's not sexy and interesting. Look at this woman,

http://www.anitablonde.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/gallery/Anita-Blonde-naked-by-the-pool/Anita-Blonde-naked-by-the-pool-7.jpg

http://www.anitablonde.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/gallery/Anita-Blonde-naked-by-the-pool/Anita-Blonde-naked-by-the-pool-9.jpg

compare her to how you look in your pics. Which woman do you think men will pay for?

That woman has freaky nipples lol

Brianna

04-15-2015, 10:03 AM

Yeah, she was skinny-fat in general, she's fat on this pic.

Then, you're saying that Marilyn was just like the woman you're using for an avatar?

Brianna

04-15-2015, 10:08 AM

Men do tend to self-monitor themselves more, most women have no qualms about their shallowness and trivialities, but there is a lot of fat shame for both men and women. The posts in this thread evidentiate that.

However, this chart is very representative of many feminists, I know some, they are overweight/obese and talk about how they don't have to fit society's standards for looks and how men shouldn't have the right to turn women down for being overweighted or for their sexual past, but yet freely discriminate men based on their physical characteristics.

I have to admit that your cartoon was spot on about hypocrisy. A lot of my friends are or were quite shallow about superficial things like height. I can understand why this must bug a lot of guys.

rhiannon

04-15-2015, 10:12 AM

Look at Anita blond. Any man would be fool not to dump his girlfriend for her. If he can't have Anita Blond then he will resent his woman and feel that his life sucks. If you don't want that to happen to you, you have to be as good as her, equally good body, equally sexual, you won't be able to be as special but matching her on looks and sex should be enough to keep the man from feeling ripped off.

I don't know a single guy who'd dump the woman that loves him for a fuckdoll. Now I DO know of a few who might cheat on their partners with said fuckdoll, but a quick fuck vs relationship are very different things.

TheGoldenSon

04-15-2015, 10:14 AM

Fat bastards.

rhiannon

04-15-2015, 10:14 AM

It's on the topic of what's attractive/unattractive. It's not just okay to have huge silicones it's generally better than having natural boobs.
I believe the men of this forum have debunked that notion.

Brianna

04-15-2015, 10:25 AM

Back to my example with Japan instead, (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/02/diminishing-waistlines-a-national-health-problem-in-japan/)

so why is it that Japanese women are getting skinnier, while Western women are getting fatter? Because for them it's shameful to be a fat woman, while in the West it's socially approved for women to be fat.

I can't agree with that. Just ask any American woman who's struggled with weight issues. You might be conflating real life with media memes.

Mary

04-15-2015, 02:13 PM

I believe the men of this forum have debunked that notion.

They're just saying that. It's like when women say that they want nice guys.

Mary

04-15-2015, 02:15 PM

I can't agree with that. Just ask any American woman who's struggled with weight issues. You might be conflating real life with media memes.

1) There is no such thing as struggling with your weight. Just stop eating unhealthy food.

2) The empirical evidence is there. Jap women have become slimmer while American women have become fatter.

sethreign

04-16-2015, 03:27 PM

I wouldnt wanna be fat...

mattie5

05-21-2015, 11:55 PM

It seems like some people here are forgetting something.
Your saliva helps digesting food so that more of it is evacuated. Some people have a defective working saliva, which does not catalyze sugar. All the sugar becomes fat right away. The more fat they have, the harder it is for them to get rid of it. These people, they can train 15 hours per day and eat some goddamn kale and celery all their lives, they will never get thin (in addition, who in the world is stupid enough to waste his/her life doing this?). Of course, they would like to be thin, they would like to live a life where a**holes just keep their mouths shut when they walk down the street. But no. They can't. And nobody understands that, even if it could not be clearer that obesity is a condition with which people have no choice but to live with and accept it. And, by the way, if you wonder, PEOPLE ARE MORE THAN THEIR WEIGHT. If your f*cking brain cannot understand this principle, then get lost!!!
I have a lot of sympathy for everyone who must go through the crowd of c*cksuckers who insult, look strangely, intimidate, laugh at you, etc. Look at these poor fools, and remember how splendid you are. Because YOU ARE FABULOUS. More and more celebrities accept their curves and it's amazing. Companies have finally realized that putting plus sized models increased their sales. It's well-known that some can be round and in shape at the same time. Bikini body = all types of body. You are awesome and that's it. :thumb001:

Trogdor

05-21-2015, 11:58 PM

Being fat just leads you to health problems. I don't know of many overweight people who don't have issues with their health in some way. Being skinny doesn't automatically make you healthy, but being fat certainly doesn't help.

Brianna

05-23-2015, 04:48 AM

Being overweight isn't the same as being fat. You can weigh more than the limited charts recommend and still be quite healthy. Look at athletes who have more muscle than the average person. You can't tell me that they're sicklier than their lighter counterparts. I weigh much more than many of my friends and clients and I'm healthier and fitter than they are. Some of them are skinny fat. Don't get me wrong. I think obesity is a HUGE problem in the United States and other countries. However, you don't have to be fat to be unfit.

Longbowman

05-23-2015, 05:01 AM

you don't have to be fat to be unfit.

But it helps.

de Burgh II

05-23-2015, 05:06 AM

:dunno:

Dandelion

05-23-2015, 05:07 AM

I believe the reason fatties resort to compulsory eating and maintaining bad eating habits is also largely psychological, and it's bad making life a hell for them demotivating them even further.

It's also their slow metabolism of course, but usually noting which can't be solved by eating healthily.

Brianna

05-23-2015, 05:12 AM

But it helps.

It does. Admittedly, "overweight" athletes are the exception to the rule. They should look at the problems of skinny-fat girls, though. They can share some of the same health problems as obese people.

de Burgh II

05-23-2015, 05:14 AM

Brianna

05-23-2015, 05:22 AM

Kind of envious of their body build. If they get their exercise down right, they could turn the fat into muscle. They have a strong build overall so that could look something like this:http://www.naturalbodybuildingtips.com/images/endomorph_sm.jpg

My dad had a build like that. He was incredibly strong. He was one step away from international strongman competitors. He developed his strength through manual labor before he became successful. He never lifted weights. He never set foot in a gym. He got out of shape after he got a desk job.

de Burgh II

05-23-2015, 05:22 AM

Reminds me when I tried to bulk up that i took a little too excessively. So i limited it down to pushups and pullups and occassional jogs. Since I'm more on the lean side/ runner's build. lol

Brianna

05-23-2015, 05:28 AM

Reminds me when I tried to bulk up that i took a little too excessively. So i limited it down to pushups and pullups and occassional jogs. Since I'm more on the lean side/ runner's build. lol

Resistance, using your own body weight, can be a great way to increase and/or maintain strength and muscle tone. You don't have to lift weights. I greatly increased my strength when I unloaded trucks for a while.

Speaking of pushups and pullups, they're the right choices for boys and girls. They really shouldn't lift heavy weights until they're older. Some people disagree with that, but most sources support that.

de Burgh II

05-23-2015, 05:35 AM

Resistance, using your own body weight, can be a great way to increase and/or maintain strength and muscle tone. You don't have to lift weights. I greatly increased my strength when I unloaded trucks for a while.

Speaking of pushups and pullups, they're the right choices for boys and girls. They really shouldn't lift heavy weights until they're older. Some people disagree with that, but most sources support that.

Quite true. :sad:
It didn't click in my head until I screwed up my lower back so I simply go for a more natural "fit" look without overdoing it. I guess I'm more interested in the "fit" look opposed to the bodybuilder look.

XvThomas_LysergicV

05-23-2015, 05:40 AM

@mattie5

You said "some" people have defective working saliva but then you made it seem like that was the sole reason why every single obese person is obese. I'm sure there are are some people in this world who have defective working saliva but I doubt its that common. You said obesity isn't a choice. I think the majority of obese people could lose weight if they wanted to. They just need to make the effort. They're obese because they're lazy,they overeat and they don't exercise. You're just making excuses for them. They could lose some pounds if they ate less and they exercised more. It not healthy to be obese. Its never "ok" to be fat. If I was fat and it was impossible for me to lose any weight at all then I would accept it but I would never be ok with it. There's a big difference between obese and overweight though.

Brianna

05-23-2015, 05:42 AM

Quite true. :sad:
It didn't click in my head until I screwed up my lower back so I simply go for a more natural "fit" look without overdoing it. I guess I'm more interested in the "fit" look opposed to the bodybuilder look.

Most women prefer men with the fit look rather than the bodybuilder look. My guess is that male bodybuilders sometimes bulk up to impress other men as much as women in the same way that women sometimes dress up to impress other women as much as men. It can be like a competition or a way to get approval.

de Burgh II

05-23-2015, 05:54 AM

Most women prefer men with the fit look rather than the bodybuilder look. My guess is that male bodybuilders sometimes bulk up to impress other men as much as women in the same way that women sometimes dress up to impress other women as much as men. It can be like a competition or a way to get approval.

Its a vicious cycle. :ohwell: Since my habits become pathological which I snapped out of to take a more "moderate" approach. I deluded myself to think this way, but I realized it solely depends on one's conviction that hardens one's will in the end.

So, thankfully I'm more docile/tame now when it comes down to it, which helps alot in the long run. :....

Lithium

05-23-2015, 06:02 AM

No, it is not okay to be fat. Being fat just proves that you are a selfish person and you do not care about your family, the environment and even health taxes of the other healthy citizens.

de Burgh II

05-23-2015, 06:03 AM

Most women prefer men with the fit look rather than the bodybuilder look. My guess is that male bodybuilders sometimes bulk up to impress other men as much as women in the same way that women sometimes dress up to impress other women as much as men. It can be like a competition or a way to get approval.

I guess I always went the extra mile because I didn't want to be "second fiddle" when it came more naturally with some people. So that desire and feelings of being "second fiddle" can eat away at you so it becomes a pathological phenomenon until you realize it only matter what the individual thinks. So as long as your secure with what you do better for yourself is a that matters in life when it boils down to it. :dunno:

Brianna

05-23-2015, 06:11 AM

I guess I always went the extra mile because I didn't want to be "second fiddle" when it came more naturally with some people. So that desire and feelings of being "second fiddle" can eat away at you so it becomes a pathological phenomenon until you realize it only matter what the individual thinks. So as long as your secure with what you do better for yourself is a that matters in life when it boils down to it. :dunno:

That's true. It becomes a competition with yourself. You see if you can attain the personal goals that you set for yourself. Comparing or competing with others can just be a self-defeating process, one that's sometimes based on unrealistic views of the other person. I don't have to be THE best. I'm satisfied with being in the "excellent" tier for say, pushups in my age group, rather than being in the Guinness Book of World Records. There will always be people who outperform you, so perfectionism can lead to burnout as much as success.

Desaix DeBurgh

05-23-2015, 07:00 AM

Watch the video then comment.

Your comments are pointless otherwise.

You must be stupid if you expect us to watch that whole thing. I watched most of it and first of all she says that she failed to keep weight off and most people do with dieting but if you ask a doctor they will tell you that diet and exercise are the only way to lose weight and keep it off forever. No where does this dumb fat lazy bitch mention exercise. Also, notice I said 'diet and exercise' which is different from 'dieting' because being healthy and thin/fit is a way of life not a special diet that you go on. So this dumb bitch who doesn't even have the medical knowledge to know that to lose weight and keep if off forever rather than 'yo-yo' diet you need to also exercise goes on to try to school us on the medical benefits of being fat ? Are you fucking kidding me ?! If she wants to expound upon these things she should have become a doctor instead of a lawyer or whatever. She is obviously not qualified to talk about this stuff. Being fat is more unhealthy than being of a normal BMI in genral overall no matter what she says. Doctors discriminate and treat fat patients poorly because they know they are inferior people and don't deserve to be treated like normal people. Doctors are smarter than average so they are probably right.

Most people would like to lose weight in the same way they would like to get rich by winning the lottery: they will do it if it doesn't take too much effort. Americans don't want to take the figurative and literal steps to achieve their goals. They want to eat more and weigh less. Diet and exercise—the only proven method for effective, sustained weight loss—sounds good but takes too much willpower for most people. That is why fat people are inferior to physically fit people like myself with bodies of models : they are weak willed and obviously lack self control.

The myth that most diets fail has it exactly backward: Instead, most people fail diets. Just about any sensible diet will help a person lose weight but you have to combine it with exercise to keep the weight off forever. Blaming the diet because the dieter quit is like blaming the unused treadmill for not doing its job. The real solution isn't in fad diets or workout DVDs; the solution is in the mirror.

In short : It is not ok to be fat and fat people are inferior people.