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gum_dum
03-22-2015, 01:54 AM
will post pictures without makeup later on. I wonder if classification will change.

http://news.cinebasti.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Sara-Loren.jpg

http://tribepk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Free-Download-Sara-Loren-HD-Wallpapers.jpg

http://media.santabanta.com/gallery/indian%20%20celebrities(f)/sara%20loren/sara-loren-2-v.jpg

http://i.bollywoodmantra.com/albums/candids/actresses/sara-loren/sara-loren__544721.jpg

jatt
03-22-2015, 02:01 AM
nord indid .. post without make or non photoshoped picz for better judgement

gum_dum
03-22-2015, 02:05 AM
nord indid .. post without make or non photoshoped picz for better judgement

Later ;)

StonyArabia
03-22-2015, 02:05 AM
Nordid-Indid heading toward Iranid direction

Shah-Jehan
03-22-2015, 02:10 AM
Indo-Brachid mostly with some type of Indid influence.

Kamal900
03-22-2015, 02:12 AM
She's SOO FINE! Nord Indid

gum_dum
03-22-2015, 03:44 AM
This is how she look without much make/photoshop. She is of punjabi dalit christian background, IMO one can see some veddid vibes around nose. She probably have done nose job by now, but something is still there.

http://www.indicine.com/images/gallery/bollywood/events/sara-loren-at-manish-aroras-store-launch/100787-Mona-Laizza-2013-large.jpg

http://reviewit.pk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/sara-loren__704730.jpg

http://cdn57.fansshare.com/images/saraloren/beautiful-sara-loren-background-1279544352.jpg

gum_dum
03-22-2015, 03:50 AM
veddid
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/gl-veddid.jpg

gum_dum
03-22-2015, 04:08 AM
not possoble to find pics without make up. Couple of more.

http://i.bollywoodmantra.com/albums/events/miscellaneous/ritu-kumar-label-monsoon-collection-launch/sara-loren__616559.JPG

http://datastore03.rediff.com/h1500-w1500/thumb/4F6259655A5464655B656B586A636B716D72/8382aqgib67cs4mb.D.0.Sara-Loren-at-MID-DAY-TROPHY-2014-at-Mahalaxmi-Race-Course-in-Mumbai--2-.JPG

lameduck
03-22-2015, 05:25 AM
all are Pakistani Christians of dalit background or there are some high caste converts too?


as for classification Nord indid/Gracile indid.

gum_dum
03-22-2015, 05:36 AM
all are Pakistani Christians of dalit background or there are some high caste converts too?


as for classification Nord indid/Gracile indid.

99% are dalit converts.

Shah-Jehan
03-22-2015, 05:38 AM
99% are dalit converts.

How come most of them come from West Punjab and also bear Arabic/Persian surnames found in Punjabi Muslims?

gum_dum
03-22-2015, 05:47 AM
How come most of them come from West Punjab and also bear Arabic/Persian surnames found in Punjabi Muslims?

Dalits are all over both punjabs, 32% of Indian punjab is dalits. In Pak punjab % less but over all population simiar, probably 15% by some estimates.

And yes they do have arabic/persian surnames. Along with english names etc. Some muslim converts are known as sheikh, mussali. Some adopt high caste surnames like bhatti, khokhar, gill among christians and muslims.

lameduck
03-22-2015, 06:04 AM
dalits also have types I think Pakistani Christians are purest dalits with least diversity(high caste/light types) but other dalits do have significant minority of high caste looking people.

On topic actresses Sunita Marshal and Gia ali are also from dalit christian back ground.

Berlin88
03-22-2015, 11:46 AM
Pred. Indobracid with hints of veddid

jatt
03-22-2015, 12:24 PM
the second group of pictures u posted she look indo brachid.

Highlands
03-22-2015, 12:35 PM
She's beautiful. I think Indo-Brachid

jatt
03-22-2015, 12:47 PM
How come most of them come from West Punjab and also bear Arabic/Persian surnames found in Punjabi Muslims?

in indian Punjab too we have charistian in districts like dhariwal .. They are considered lower to dalits.. their names are usually normal Sikh names ending in suffix maseeh.

http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276288/Article/images/20811152/5908203-large.jpg

ravinder masih general manager Turkish airline

http://media2.intoday.in/indiatoday/images/stories//2014August/harjeet_650_081814085527.jpg

harjeet masih .. man who fled from ISIS captivity in irak..

as u can see we too have Christians.

gum_dum
03-22-2015, 03:26 PM
dalits also have types I think Pakistani Christians are purest dalits with least diversity(high caste/light types) but other dalits do have significant minority of high caste looking people.

On topic actresses Sunita Marshal and Gia ali are also from dalit christian back ground.

True, Pakistani christians are mostly chuhras who are least diverse.

jatt
03-22-2015, 03:58 PM
True, Pakistani christians are mostly chuhras who are least diverse.

churas are a bit above them in social standings in indian Punjab.

Nurzat
03-22-2015, 04:08 PM
these European looking South Asians are colonial or older types? and how come some preserved such European looks?

jatt
03-22-2015, 04:09 PM
these European looking South Asians are colonial or older types? and how come some preserved such European looks?She ain't European looking at al

gum_dum
03-22-2015, 04:14 PM
these European looking South Asians are colonial or older types? and how come some preserved such European looks?

See more pics i posted later on, she is not euro looking at all. Not even lighter type south asian. Anyway colonial descendent are known as anglo-indian, they are mostly found in India. So anything else is ancient.

lameduck
03-22-2015, 04:20 PM
these European looking South Asians are colonial or older types? and how come some preserved such European looks?

LOl these phenos are product of centuries of migrations/climate adaptation blah blah and she is hardly euro looking though pseudo euro looking people do exist in ethnicities of northern Pakistan/Eatern Afghanistan( also rarely elsewhere) and they were always noted to exist by classical anthropologists.

Mortimer
03-23-2015, 07:03 AM
if she had surgery we cant know what she was, now she looks gracile indid

Mortimer
03-23-2015, 07:15 AM
casteism is quiete racist, as high castes think of themselfes as "white" and of dalits as weddoid/brown/black whatever

the dalits form own groups modelling themselfes after african american black panthers and marxists, there are the naxalites who are marxist revolutionary anti-racist group and there are para military upper caste milita who are racist and rape dalit women.

gum_dum
03-23-2015, 05:54 PM
casteism is quiete racist, as high castes think of themselfes as "white" and of dalits as weddoid/brown/black whatever
n.

This is not the case in our area. People skin tone does not depend on caste all the times. From where I come from Gujrat rural areas Kumehar caste is known to be lightest. Most of them have pale skin and lighter eyes. To give you exemple their girls have similar skin tone like afridi daughters but with light eyes. Yet kumehar is kind of low caste in punjab rural areas. I may post their pics some day. Its also not necerarly every kumehar look like them, but in our area they do.

Only some untouchables tribes have very dark skin. Yeah you can say kumehar are not actually untouchable but artisan caste, but still low caste compared to zamindar.

Another thing, under hinduism most of punjabi people are low caste people like jats, gujjars, arains, awans etc, and people who declared them low caste are actually quite dark like bhaiyas from UP/Bihar. So in punjab it does not matter as much as you think.

Varhun
03-23-2015, 09:24 PM
Indo-Brachid mostly with some type of Indid influence.
This one.