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Dylan
03-24-2015, 10:32 PM
I already know my Y-Chromosome is r1b1a2 (m269) however this doesn't tell me too much other than that my fathers father etc. was basically western european. Can anyone recommend me to a service that does deeper subclade testing so I can narrow it down more? Also, what is the price range for this?
I already ordered 23andme

Grace O'Malley
03-25-2015, 03:54 AM
I already know my Y-Chromosome is r1b1a2 (m269) however this doesn't tell me too much other than that my fathers father etc. was basically western european. Can anyone recommend me to a service that does deeper subclade testing so I can narrow it down more? Also, what is the price range for this?
I already ordered 23andme

FTDNA is good because they have surname projects but Yseq does test for some subclades not presently included in FTDNA. Usually 23andme will tell you if you are L21 or M222 so you are obviously not these. Yseq is the most economical.

Dylan
03-25-2015, 04:59 AM
FTDNA is good because they have surname projects but Yseq does test for some subclades not presently included in FTDNA. Usually 23andme will tell you if you are L21 or M222 so you are obviously not these. Yseq is the most economical.

I'm still waiting for my 23andme results so its possible. FTDNA seems to have a bunch of different options. Do you recommend any of them? thanks for the help!

Grace O'Malley
03-25-2015, 05:42 AM
I'm still waiting for my 23andme results so its possible. FTDNA seems to have a bunch of different options. Do you recommend any of them? thanks for the help!

Well I'm with FTDNA and have had my brother tested as far as they test but Yseq have further subclades under his terminal snp. If you find your general subclade using 23andMe then you will know what to test for. If you want to find matches then it is best to test to the 67 str level with FTDNA but if you want to find your terminal snp Yseq would be better. Once you find if you are L21 or DF27 it will make it easier to decide what to do. Is your father from Northern France or Southern France? If Northern France he could be L21 and if Southern more likely DF27. You won't be M222 unless you are Scots, Northern English or Irish.

Dylan
03-25-2015, 05:52 AM
Well I'm with FTDNA and have had my brother tested as far as they test but Yseq have further subclades under his terminal snp. If you find your general subclade using 23andMe then you will know what to test for. If you want to find matches then it is best to test to the 67 str level with FTDNA but if you want to find your terminal snp Yseq would be better. Once you find if you are L21 or DF27 it will make it easier to decide what to do. Is your father from Northern France or Southern France? If Northern France he could be L21 and if Southern more likely DF27. You won't be M222 unless you are Scots, Northern English or Irish.

Well he's French Canadian, but my Paternal descendent comes from Perpignan, the southern most city in the French mainland. (It's in French Catalonia). But, my surname is Norman and almost everyone with it comes from Normandie, so I'm not sure what to expect

I'm also interested in testing my mother's father, and the brother of both of my grandmothers, but this is pretty expensive so I'll have to choose!

Grace O'Malley
03-25-2015, 06:03 AM
Well he's French Canadian, but my Paternal descendent comes from Perpignan, the southern most city in the French mainland. (It's in French Catalonia). But, my surname is Norman and almost everyone with it comes from Normandie, so I'm not sure what to expect

I'm also interested in testing my mother's father, and the brother of both of my grandmothers, but this is pretty expensive so I'll have to choose!

Normany as far as R1b goes is mostly L21. I don't think 23andMe tests for DF27 now that I remember but they do test for L21.