President Chavez's socialist world vision

[Bloodeagle]

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez intends to inject new urgency into his socialist and anti-imperialist revolution, claiming "capitalism is destroying the world".

In a combative 60-minute interview with the BBC HARDtalk programme in the Miraflores Presidential Palace in Caracas, Mr Chavez blamed Venezuela's deepening recession on the irresponsible economic policies of the United States.

He also expressed disappointment with President Barack Obama's "very negative signals" towards Latin America.

"In Colombia (the Americans) are building seven military bases; that is one of the very negative signals that Obama sent just after taking office," Mr Chavez said.

"Bush decided to reactivate the US Fourth Fleet to operate in Latin America. Obama, instead of suspending or getting rid of the Fourth Fleet has seven military bases planned in Colombia. What for? Is it to go to war, to dominate the Latin American continent?"
The rest of the story. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/8732857.stm)

[Austin]

He nationalizes companies left and right, essentially taking control over the entire Venezuelan economy...then goes around saying another countries economic policies are ruining what is literally his countries economy....

If he had been a good little whore-of-a-despot then he would have the largest economy in the world as his partner...he chose his own path.

[Equinox]

He nationalizes companies left and right, essentially taking control over the entire Venezuelan economy...then goes around saying another countries economic policies are ruining what is literally his countries economy....

If he had been a good little whore-of-a-despot then he would have the largest economy in the world as his partner...he chose his own path.

He chose the Latin American path and good on him for doing so :thumb001:

[Cato]

Why doesn't the CIA put a sniper's bullet into his skull already?

[Austin]

He chose the Latin American path and good on him for doing so :thumb001:

If there was such a thing....Latin America is lost and that is phrasing it charitably... It still cannot decide whether it is leftist/centrist/neo-liberal or nationalistic/far-right....

If you look at South American leaders most are a myopic form of nationalistic populists who really don't adhere to any legitimate socialist platform and are completely corrupt. Then you have the far-right factions which would actually be a blessing compared to their leftist/populist counterparts whom stand for nothing.

Chavez is not a leftist, he is a disgrace to real leftist's....Chavez is a populist and not much else, he even suppresses those on the left who aren't with him.

[Bloodeagle]

Chavez is not a leftist, he is a disgrace to real leftist's....Chavez is a populist and not much else, he even suppresses those on the left who aren't with him.
I agree that he is a populist. Do you remember Citgo's oil to the needy campaign?

The controversial program gave fuel from Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's government to 200,000 households in 23 states through Citizens Energy, a charity organization run by Joseph Kennedy, the eldest son of late Sen. Robert F. Kennedy.

[Austin]

I agree that he is a populist. Do you remember Citgo's oil to the needy campaign?

Yeah Chavez has programs, forget what they are called, where he sends oil to South American governments who support him in return for food stuffs. He doesn't do it for all South American nations, only the ones who's governments are friendly or support his policies. He jails and tortures leftist's who point out his failures and his untold squandering of the oil wealth to his cronies.

He also buys a 50,000 dollar new car for every army officer who is promoted...He learned from the last coup =)

[Equinox]

If there was such a thing....Latin America is lost and that is phrasing it charitably... It still cannot decide whether it is leftist/centrist/neo-liberal or nationalistic/far-right....

So, we give them the pre-packaged evils of which to choose from and then have people such as yourself criticizing them for trying to pick and mix?



If you look at South American leaders most are a myopic form of nationalistic populists who really don't adhere to any legitimate socialist platform and are completely corrupt. Then you have the far-right factions which would actually be a blessing compared to their leftist/populist counterparts whom stand for nothing.

Left - Right, it does not mean anything. Especially to the people of Latin America. The Left - Right dichotomy is just as archaic and useless as the Good - Evil one. It echoes a right vs wrong complex, black vs white (no grey area), and is inherently tied to a them vs us mentality. It is dated. It is perverted. It is dead.


Chavez is not a leftist, he is a disgrace to real leftist's....Chavez is a populist and not much else, he even suppresses those on the left who aren't with him.

A populist who finds it necessary to mute all political dissidents? It sounds quite illogical to me.

Arguably Chavez is not a good development, for he is working within traditional political institutions. Contrast this with, say, the Zapatista (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista_Army_of_National_Liberation) movement in Chiapas, Mexico or the plight of other indigenous peoples throughout Latin America, namely in Bolivia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivia#Plan_de_Todos).

Personally I see these indigenous people and their struggle against Neoliberalism to be inspiring, to say the least. There is a great deal to be learned from these people. Their struggle is our own - a struggle against the multicultural, individualizing and monocultural forces of Neoliberalism.

[The Ripper]

Why doesn't the CIA put a sniper's bullet into his skull already?

Death to America. :thumb001:

[Oinakos Growion]

Funny thing is that despite his rampant populism the country is somehow improving internally: better sanitary levels, better education/literacy, etc. Hence why he's still acclaimed in Venezuela, not because of his silly TV shows (he does have a regular TV show!). And the happier they are over there the less they'll come to Europe :P
Though I couldn't care less about his "anti Imperialist blah blah blah" because, at the end of the day, he still sells oil to the U.S. and the U.S. are quite happy buying it. They make business and then later put up a show... bah.
He basically knocks on all doors and waits to see who'll answer.


Death to America. :thumb001:
:D

[Agrippa]

Chavez is not perfect and it is hard to see that there is a fight especially between certain Euro-groups with his agenda, thats nothing I like, but on the other hand, he is absolutely right about the USA and Liberalcapitalism, the Neoliberal agenda and he is in a certain way also less of a Cultural Marxist, which is so destructive in the West, than the USA or Europe!

So go on Chavez! It is really inspiring and a good thing that there is some resistance in the world, because we have to learn from it, make it better for our own people and finally crush the Plutocratic Oligarchy, the exploitative enemy of ALL free people!

Because it wasn't Socialism which brought the immigrants, it was Neoliberalism-Cultural Marxism in the Liberalcapitalist system, I know it very well from Europe and some Americans are still distracted by their inability to see how a state and social orientation can be a benefit - if not being corrupted.

The great problem in the USA is: They never had such a major movement which wasn't totally corrupted and are trapped in their religious-pseudoreligious thinking and "constitution" ideal. Rather they should care for getting rid of the plutocrats which actually run the whole country with their banks, corporations and mass media.
Thats the problem!

And Chavez at least did something and survived a coup d'état supported by the CIA. What the USA did to South America is one huge crime, what the US establishement did to its own people is one huge crime, what the USA did to Europe is one huge crime.

Seriously, it is time to get rid of Liberalcapitalism and there are only two options for the USA: Free yourself from Liberalcapitalism or the world has to become free of you at least.

Because what we don't need is one huge Liberalcapitalist centre with one huge mercenary army suppressing every reasonable movement of the people around the globe, just for the interests of the banks, corporations - finally the Plutocratic Oligarchy.