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European Knight
03-28-2015, 04:39 PM
Yemen President Abdrabbuh Mansour Hadi has accused Iran of destabilising the country, calling Houthi rebels the "stooges of Iran".

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia says military intervention in Yemen will continue until the country is "stable and safe".

The move comes after a third night of airstrikes by a Saudi-led coalition hit cities across the country.

The conflict has been described by correspondents as a proxy war between Sunni Arab nations and Shia Iran.

President Hadi was speaking at an Arab League summit in Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, to discuss the crisis, days after having to flee Yemen as rebels advanced on his stronghold of Aden.

Arab military force

The Saudi-led Operation Decisive Storm has the support of several Arab League members. It was sparked by Wednesday's rebel advance towards Aden - a push that air strikes have failed to stop.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32098607

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/625/media/images/81948000/png/_81948590_yemen_houthi_controll_624_v9.png

Ryujin
03-28-2015, 11:21 PM
Speaks a fucking traitor who left the country as soon as his ass got in danger. Houthi leader is in there and keeps fighting back along with his troops.

RandoBloom
03-28-2015, 11:23 PM
Speaks a fucking traitor who left the country as soon as his ass got in danger. Houthi leader is in there and keeps fighting back along with his troops.

What is his alternative? Lol

Ryujin
03-28-2015, 11:23 PM
What is his alternative? Lol

He's not running away like traitors.

RandoBloom
03-28-2015, 11:26 PM
He's not running away like traitors.

Because he cant run. Iranians will execute him if he leaves

sioned
03-28-2015, 11:34 PM
Arabs... Another shitthole, another desertgrave :thumb001:

N1019
04-05-2015, 10:05 PM
The Saudis said the Yrmen conflict is not a proxy war with Iran. Therefore, it is a proxy war with Iran, whether the Houthis are absolute tools of Iran or just receiving limited support. The people of Yemen are wretched pawns in a great game played by regional and global powers. The Saudi-led coalition needs practise using its expensive Western toys before it takes on Iranian proxies elsewhere and/or attacks Iran directly.

zarzian
04-05-2015, 10:10 PM
The Saudis said the Yrmen conflict is not a proxy war with Iran. Therefore, it is a proxy war with Iran, whether the Houthis are absolute tools of Iran or just receiving limited support. The people of Yemen are wretched pawns in a great game played by regional and global powers. The Saudi-led coalition needs practise using its expensive Western toys before it takes on Iranian proxies elsewhere and/or attacks Iran directly.

Without American backup, Saudi won't make a move on Iran, it's suicide.

Darth Revan
04-05-2015, 10:14 PM
Typical bullshit, spouted by a puppet placed in the Presidency by the United States, and sustained there by the support of Islah, meaning the Muslim Brotherhood, meaning fucking Qatar.

Again... Ansarullah =/= Hezbollah.

Böri
04-05-2015, 10:33 PM
Yemen army is weak against Houthis. Houthis can also take Aden seen the situation. Ottomans also hard times against them in past. They live at mountains and it doesn't seem easy to fight them there. Like Afghanistan. It can be AQAP vs Houthis in the future.

Darth Revan
04-05-2015, 10:37 PM
Yemen army is weak against Houthis. Houthis can also take Aden seen the situation. Ottomans also hard times against them in past. They live at mountains and it doesn't seem easy to fight them there. Like Afghanistan. It can be AQAP vs Houthis in the future.

I'd say it already is.
Al-Hirak seems to have been entirely sidelined after the December deal was undone. They aren't playing a major role in the defence of Aden, and the population of South Yemen doesn't seem to support them much (complete opposite to the broader consensus that Ansarullah has built in Northern Yemen).

Islah has been throughly dispossessed of its strongholds, and now relies on tribesmen for guerilla tactics.
The Army has defected en masse to the Houthis, with only a fraction of the original numbers staying tied to the Hadi/NATO clique.

N1019
04-06-2015, 04:17 AM
Without American backup, Saudi won't make a move on Iran, it's suicide.

The US is probably behind or on board with everything they are doing, at a minimum providing logistical and intelligence support, but more likely devising the entire operation. Therefore, the Saudis aren't doing anything alone. If the US manages to assemble a new Arab coalition as an American proxy force, which could also include Egypt, Israel (perhaps secretly) and even Turkey, it would offset the fact that Iran is much bigger than the Gulf Arab states alone. They also have easy access to modern hardware. However, preparing such a joint force for serious combat will take time.

Ryujin
04-06-2015, 05:18 AM
Houthis keep advancing regardless of Saudi airstrikes. They're about to capture Aden, a strategic territory. I think what Houthis need to do afterwards is determine their exact borderlines based on their area of influence and declare independence. The new state can be called Western Yemen or whatever. I guess Russia, Iran, China etc. would recognize it immediately. If they act wisely they'll become victorious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Yemen_Insurgency_detailed_map

Óttar
04-06-2015, 05:20 AM
Better than being Saudi stooges.

N1019
04-06-2015, 05:48 AM
Houthis keep advancing regardless of Saudi airstrikes. They're about to capture Aden, a strategic territory. I think what Houthis need to do afterwards is determine their exact borderlines based on their area of influence and declare independence. The new state can be called Western Yemen or whatever. I guess Russia, Iran, China etc. would recognize it immediately. If they act wisely they'll become victorious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Yemen_Insurgency_detailed_map

That would be an interesting reversion to a two-state Yemen, albeit largely a reversal of the previous territorial alignment with Russia after British withdrawal. However, the emergence of a new Iran/Russia-aligned state alongside the Red Sea is unlikely to be tolerated by the Anglo-Americans.

The US-Saudi axis lost control of Yemen to a resistance movement that is supported by its main regional rival along with large parts of the population, so they are destroying it. The airstrikes are ostensibly a matter of compelling the Houthis to accept a government more palatable to the Saudis but it goes beyond that. Even if a new state was declared it wouldn't stop airstrikes or a possible land invasion, assuming the likes of Egypt and Pakistan could be sucked in to going ahead with it. On top of that, given the loss of critical infrastructure, the Houthis might win, but will be in control of nothing more than millions of people and tons of rubble.

European Knight
04-06-2015, 10:48 AM
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/4/5/yemens-houthis-ready-for-talks-if-air-strikes-stop-senior-member-says.html

Yemen's Houthis ready for talks if airstrikes stop, senior member says

Houthi response comes a day after calls for a humanitarian pause to allow foreigners out and aid into Yemen

Yemen's Houthis are ready to sit down for peace talks as long as a Saudi-led air campaign is halted and the negotiations are overseen by "non-aggressive" parties, a senior Houthi member said.

The Houthi response came a day after Russia called an emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council and circulated a draft resolution demanding "regular and obligatory" breaks in airstrikes by the Saudi-led coalition against Houthi Shia rebels to allow foreign personnel to leave the country. Echoing Russia on Saturday, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) also called for an immediate pause in hostilities to deliver life-saving medical aid.


http://youtu.be/MPV0DmbsqzE

N1019
04-07-2015, 04:55 AM
America may fear that Operation Decisive Storm will not be decisive enough, because they are willing to provide aerial refuelling services to coalition aircraft currently engaged in the destruction of Yemen.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/04/06/262249/us-increases-role-in-yemen-war.html

Excel
04-07-2015, 06:01 PM
The way I see it, the US is playing both sides against one another, pitting the Sunni's against the Shia's. Yes its madness and YET again many people do not see the bigger picture because of greed, hatred and ignorance.
This war will achieve nothing but kill many people both innocent and combatants, the country’s infrastructure will be destroyed and famine and refuges will come about.

I think that this war is stupid, Saudi Arabia should not be getting involved in the internal affairs of Yemen despite their fears of Iranian influence but then again the Saudi themselves were only a year ago strongly backing the Houtis against the Muslim brotherhood.

N1019
04-08-2015, 05:18 AM
The way I see it, the US is playing both sides against one another, pitting the Sunni's against the Shia's. Yes its madness and YET again many people do not see the bigger picture because of greed, hatred and ignorance.
This war will achieve nothing but kill many people both innocent and combatants, the country’s infrastructure will be destroyed and famine and refuges will come about.

The two opposed pillars of power are Saudi and Iran, Sunni and Shia, which is an anti-OPEC demarcation. The weaker pillar is Saudi Arabia, so it is supported, along with its satellite sheikdoms, to balance the larger Iran. There are also elements of the pre-Islamist nationalist order surviving outside the main oil exporters in Turkey, Egypt and Syria; then there's Israel, which serves as a forward operating base of the US. No single country is strong enough to dominate the entire MENA region alone and sectarian strife ensures that no alliance hostile to Anglo-American interests is powerful enough to dominate the entire region either. The varies parties can be supported as proxies in conflicts against each other subject to immediate imperial requirements; non-government proxies and mercenary armies are also cultivated to add to conflict and act as proxies of the imperial power and the regional pillar powers; minority rulers as the "weaker pillar" of their countries, defer to imperial powers for assistance. All of these factors aid the imperial powers in maintaining dominance.



I think that this war is stupid, Saudi Arabia should not be getting involved in the internal affairs of Yemen despite their fears of Iranian influence but then again the Saudi themselves were only a year ago strongly backing the Houtis against the Muslim brotherhood.

We should all leave each other alone, but unfortunately that's not how the real world works. Powerful countries exert influence over their weaker neighbours and try to stop other powerful countries from influencing them. If Iran is aiding a rebellion in Yemen, I can't imagine the Saudis just sitting back and watching a conflict that could spill across their borders. The Houthis may have their reasons for rebellion against US-Saudi puppet governments but Iran doesn't give a shit about that - it's just the Great Game for them, as it is for all regional and global powers; the thousands of innocent victims are tragically ignored.

Suleiman Arian
04-08-2015, 05:37 AM
Proud to be Yemeni!

N1019
04-09-2015, 12:35 AM
Aerial refuelling of coalition aircraft began Tuesday 7 April with a USAF KC-135 filling up a RSAF F-15 and UAEAF F-16.

http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/us-begins-aerial-refuelling-for-saudi-led-air-war-115040900076_1.html

American fighter aircraft dropping American bombs being refuelled by American tankers. The difference between this and the Americans' doing it all themselves is narrowing by the day, but one thing stands out: ownership - in public, this is a Saudi-led campaign. Meanwhile, there is a USMC Major General leading an American team working with the Saudis to co-ordinate the operation in Riyadh. Of course, it doesn't take a stretch of the imagination to realise that Operation Decisive Storm was their baby all along.

In America's dealings with Iran, it's a matter of rhetoric versus actions. The "nuclear agreement that isn't really an agreement" is rhetoric; the proxy wars are actions. Which matters more? Actions speak louder than words.


but then again the Saudi themselves were only a year ago strongly backing the Houtis against the Muslim brotherhood.

Get a load of this: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41438.htm


A year earlier, then Saudi intelligence chief Prince Bandar met with Houthi leader Saleh Habreh in London. The Saudis wanted to mobilise the Houthis against the Islah Party, Yemen’s Muslim Brotherhood branch that shared power with President Hadi, so that they “cancel each other out” in conflict.

But Islah refused to confront the Houthis, and Riyadh’s green light backfired, allowing the Iran-backed militia to march unhindered to the capital.

The US was involved. Sources close to Hadi say they were told by the Americans about a meeting in Rome between Iranian officials and the son of former President Ali Abdullah Saleh, to secure his assurances that government units loyal to Saleh would not oppose the Houthi advance.

According to another source close to President Hadi, the UAE also played a key role in the Houthi operation, providing $1 billion to the Houthis through Saleh and his son Ahmad.

If true, this means in sum that US intelligence had advanced warning of the Houthi offensive and Saleh’s role in it; the UAE had reportedly provided funding to Saleh for the operation; and the Saudis had personally given the Houthis the green light in hope of triggering a fight to the death with Yemen’s Brotherhood.

Local reports in Yemen refer to “an alliance… between the Houthis, the United States, and Saleh’s Republican Guard,” to counter Ansar al-Sharia, the local al-Qaeda branch. Some Yemeni politicians also said that “the Americans gave a green light to the Houthis to enter the capital and weaken Islah”.

Why would the US do nothing to warn its Yemeni client-regime about the incoming Houthi offensive, while then rushing to support Saudi Arabia’s military overreaction to fend off the spectre of Iranian expansion?

The 2008 RAND Corporation report was sponsored by the US Army Training and Doctrine Command’s Army Capability Integration Centre. It set out US government policy options for prosecuting what it described as “the long war” against “adversaries” in “the Muslim world,” who are “bent on forming a unified Islamic world to supplant Western dominance”.

Muslim world adversaries include “doctrinaire” Salafi-jihadists; “religious nationalist organisations” like “Hezbollah and Hamas that participate in the political process” but are also “willing to use violence”; secular groups “such as communists, Arab nationalists, or Baathists”; and “nonviolent organisations” because their members might later join “more radical organisations”.

The report suggests that the US Army sees all Muslim political groups in the region that challenge the prevailing geopolitical order as “adversaries” to be countered and weakened.

By backing the Iraqi Shiite regime and seeking an accommodation with Iran; while propping up al-Qaeda sponsoring Gulf states and empowering local anti-Shia Islamists across the region - this covert US strategy would calibrate levels of violence to debilitate both sides, and sustain “Western dominance”.

Excel
04-11-2015, 11:30 AM
Iran is falling for the trick, they would soon be too busy killing Sunni Arabs to even have the time to think about building a nuclear bomb. The only smart player is Turkey which refuses to directly get involved in this game of madness.

Darth Revan
04-12-2015, 12:29 AM
Iran is falling for the trick, they would soon be too busy killing Sunni Arabs to even have the time to think about building a nuclear bomb. The only smart player is Turkey which refuses to directly get involved in this game of madness.

Less than 1% of the Iranian military assets are under routinary action, and most of those that are, are related to their air force and the special forces (specifically the Quds Force under Soleimani) in Iraq.

For the Nth time: Ansarullah =/= Hezbollah

The Houthis have a distinct identity, broad political autonomy, and while they may be cooperative with Iran they aren't truly dependent on them.

N1019
04-12-2015, 07:37 AM
Iran is falling for the trick, they would soon be too busy killing Sunni Arabs to even have the time to think about building a nuclear bomb. The only smart player is Turkey which refuses to directly get involved in this game of madness.

If escalation continues, Turkey will probably get involved sooner or later. Turkey and Pakistan already stated that they oppose the overthrow of the government in Yemen and while they would like to see a peaceful resolution of the conflict, any violation of Saudi Arabia's territorial integrity would evoke a strong reaction from them.

In light of the "Iran nuclear deal that isn't really a deal at all", Pakistan has already started flirting with Iran on matters such as the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline.
While this may have influenced Pakistan's decision not to commit forces to Yemen at this juncture, closer relations with Iran are likely to cause more trouble for the subcontinental state. There are reports that an ISIS cell has begun to emerge in the frontier province of Baluchistan, through which the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline is intended to run. Additionally, Baluchi rebel activity continues, with the recent murder of eight Iranian border guards in the region.

N1019
04-13-2015, 07:36 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/11/us-yemen-security-airstrikes-idUSKBN0N207I20150411

Somehow, I suspect that working as advisors to the Houthis is outside the scope of their tourist visas.


Naturally, Iran denied it. The story, while plausible, would be far more credible with names and photos of the prisoners. For now, I'm going to treat this story as unverified.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/12/yemen-security-iran-idUSL5N0X90L120150412

N1019
04-21-2015, 01:08 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/04/17/navy-has-seven-combat-ships-around-yemen-as-saudi-led-blockade-continues/


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/04/20/navy-aircraft-carrier-steams-toward-yemen-as-fighting-continues/

There will soon be at least nine US naval vessels in the vicinity of Yemen. The purpose of their visit is disputed.

European Knight
04-23-2015, 09:07 PM
http://youtu.be/yYPVk5KmObc

Profileid
04-23-2015, 09:17 PM
And the people agree.
FUCK SAUDI ARABIA!!!!!

Profileid
04-23-2015, 09:19 PM
Iran is falling for the trick, they would soon be too busy killing Sunni Arabs to even have the time to think about building a nuclear bomb. The only smart player is Turkey which refuses to directly get involved in this game of madness.

Despite the fact they fund the Syrian "rebels" who totally aren't jihadists and totally have suceeded in nothing besides tearing apart a beautiful and diverse country?