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Kazimiera
03-29-2015, 02:12 PM
Baba Yaga, The Confounding Crone of Slavic Folklore

Source: http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends-europe/baba-yaga-confounding-crone-slavic-folklore-002836

http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/field/image/Baba-Yaga.jpg

Baba Yaga is considered one of the most intriguing characters from Slavic mythology. As ambiguous as she is hideous, Baba Yaga has been described by scholars as an anomaly, both a maternal, mother-nature figure and an evil villain who enjoys eating those who fail to complete her tasks. Though the origins of her name are as unclear as her purpose tends to be, it is believed that baba means something akin to “old woman” or “grandmother”, while yaga has conflicting theories of meaning ranging from “snake” to “wicked.” Regardless, even Baba Yaga’s name emphasizes the strangeness of her person, making her an interesting character to decipher.

The most common portrayal of Baba Yaga is as either one old woman or a trio of old sisters, all of whom are depicted as skinny, with iron teeth, and noses so long that they touch the ceiling when they sleep.

Baba Yaga is commonly illustrated as riding around on a mortar rather than a broom, wielding a pestle as both a flying aid and a wand. Tales involving her usually take place at her hut. It is found deep in the woods, standing on magical chicken legs, with a rooster's head on top. Legend says her hut is surrounded by a fence made of human bones.

Inside her hut, heroes usually encounter her stretching across her cooking stove, the enormous stove itself reaching from one side of the hut to the other, subtly emphasizing her size and magic. The stove is another common detail in tales of the Baba Yaga as the punishment for the failure of certain tasks is a fate of being cooked and eaten. Despite an ambitious appetite, however, Baba Yaga is always portrayed as skinny and bony, with her own epithet of “the bony one”.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Baba-Yaga-sculpture.jpg?itok=NNKWb66r
Sculpture depicting the gnarly-faced character of Baba Yaga

The characterization of Baba Yaga is where much of the uncertainty surrounding her comes from. She varies between acting as a benefactor and a villain, either helping the hero of the Slavic myth or hindering him or her. Though it appears she never goes after anyone unprovoked—that is to say, without the person at least coming to the door of her hut—she appears to follow little or few morals. Nevertheless, whatever promise she makes to the hero after his completion of her tasks, she keeps.

Most of the prominent stories about Baba Yaga are not about her directly but about heroes who encounter her.

In one story, “Vasilisa the Beautiful”, Vasilisa is a Cinderella type character with a magical doll, whose mother died and father remarried a horrible woman with equally unkind daughters. When Vasilisa's father goes away for a trip, the new stepmother sells their house and moves her and the three girls to a cottage in the woods, giving the daughters impossible tasks to complete by candlelight. It is when Vasilisa ventures out of the house at the demand of her stepsisters to find more light that she encounters Baba Yaga, who presents numerous difficult chores to Vasilisa in exchange for a fire to take back to her household. With the aid of the doll, Vasilisa completes all the tasks and is given a fire in a skull lantern which incinerates her horrible new family upon her return home. Inevitably, Vasilisa's story ends on a happy note, with her wedding the tsar of Russia, but it is Baba Yaga’s role in her tale that is most intriguing.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/heroine-Vasilisa.jpg?itok=G9hpOOE6
The heroine Vasilisa outside of the hut of Baba Yaga as depicted by Ivan Bilibin (1902).

Baba Yaga acts both an obstacle for Vasilisa as well as a savior, as without the lantern Vasilisa would never have been free of her cruel stepfamily. However, the way in which Baba Yaga frees her is terrible, revealing her as an unmoral, dangerous woman. Unlike the fairy godmother from the original Cinderella story, Baba Yaga appears more like the wicked stepmother who allows her daughter to cut off her foot so it will fit in the glass slipper. Baba Yaga goes to extraordinary lengths to free Vasilisa, instigating three painful deaths—as well as causing Vasilisa much grief before letting her leave the hut—rather than merely helping Vasilisa escape her stepfamily.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/Baba-Yaga-of-Russian-fairy-tales.jpg
Baba Yaga of Russian fairy tales depicted on post card. Illustration circa 1917

Baba Yaga is also cast as a Mother Earth figure, having an influence on the natural world through three of her servants as witnessed by Vasilisa. Twice Vasilisa sees three riders—the first white, the second red, and the third black. Upon asking who they were, Baba Yaga replies that they are Day, the sun, and Night, respectively, each controlled by her, each a servant of hers. In this instance, the reader can see the span of Baba Yaga's power, further implying that she could have used much gentler means in the dismissal of Vasilisa's family but chose not to.

Another story of Baba Yaga involves peasant children, again the victims of a cruel stepmother.

In the tale, the children are sent to Baba Yaga to be rid of, but they manage to escape the witch’s hut through the help of all the animals, plants, and objects Baba Yaga neglects. A black cat helps them plan their escape because they feed him when the witch doesn’t; a gate closes Baba Yaga off from them because she never tends it; and even the trees of the forest attempt to stand in her path because of similar mistreatment. Thus, the children return home in one piece, Baba Yaga forfeiting her search when it grows too difficult. Again, this tale ends happily, with the stepmother thrown out and the father protecting his children, and again, Baba Yaga’s role is one of an obstacle. She might otherwise have not bothered the children if they had not bothered her first.

Thus, despite being considered a deity akin to Mother Nature, the natural world turns on her because of their suffering at her hands. Again, this evidences why scholars still find her so difficult to place in any one category and why she ranges many.

It is because of the elusive nature of her character that Baba Yaga remains such an intriguing mythical individual, and continues to be discussed and researched by scholars. She adds a level of mystery and uncertainty to each of the tales she takes part in, as the reader is uncertain until her final action whether her intentions will be villainous or redemptive. Though this dilemma of whether she is good or evil is only one of many considerations, it lays the basis for her analysis throughout Slavic literature.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Baba-Yaga-of-Slavic-legend.jpg?itok=03q4Uy2w
Illustration of a hag-like, long-nosed Baba Yaga of Slavic legend. 1911

Veneda
03-29-2015, 06:55 PM
My great respect for Baba Yaga started in early childhood and still remains unchanged :)

ЛыSSый
03-29-2015, 08:20 PM
baba yagas song


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0CY3CA30Do

Linebacker
03-29-2015, 08:57 PM
My grandmother used to scare me with her as a child.She said If I don't get home before its dark Baba Yaga will eat me.I was always outside very late when I was a kid and that was one way to get me home.

Then there is Torbalan,who is only in Bulgarian folklore I think,he is a creepy old man who walks around with a big bag on his back in which he stuffs naughty children who dont listen to their parents and takes them away.

Veneda
03-29-2015, 08:58 PM
Even nowadays Baba Yaga on broomstick can be spotted in Poland quite frequently ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ2te3JcKP4

WiFi87
03-29-2015, 08:59 PM
I would classify her armenoid

Veneda
03-29-2015, 09:03 PM
My grandmother used to scare me with her as a child.She said If I don't get home before its dark Baba Yaga will eat me.I was always outside very late when I was a kid and that was one way to get me home.

Then there is Torbalan,who is only in Bulgarian folklore I think,he is a creepy old man who walks around with a big bag on his back in which he stuffs naughty children who dont listen to their parents and takes them away.
My grandmother used the same argument when I refused to eat :D

Veneda
03-29-2015, 09:19 PM
I would classify her armenoid

Regardless her classification, she always been scary to Slavic children and she was an argument used by our grandmas to naughty kids.

Shkembe Chorba
03-29-2015, 09:34 PM
Ive managed to pass childhood without been eaten by Baba Yaga, something that doesnt happens to all kids.

Here is my weapon:

http://mobilenbutic.com/img/products/products_857_1974446779products_54308_67627324flas h-light-led-spy-camcorder_468.jpg

Veneda
03-29-2015, 10:18 PM
^ Taser as a weapon against Baba Yaga? LOL Good luck :D

Prisoner Of Ice
03-29-2015, 10:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp6_K355z-A

Now I will have to play this game again.

ЛыSSый
03-29-2015, 11:54 PM
Ive managed to pass childhood without been eaten by Baba Yaga, something that doesnt happens to all kids. but when Chorba was slightly older, parents started scared him by commies.




My grandmother used the same argument when I refused to eat :D Is baba Yaga exists in polish folklore too?

Veneda
03-30-2015, 12:20 AM
but when Chorba was slightly older, parents started scared him by commies.
Baba Yaga is our Slavic initiator of kids coming into adulthood (commies are involved, too ;)). He probably failed the test by wearing laser taser on his hip untill 20+ yo LOL :D


Is baba Yaga exists in polish folklore too?

Yes, She does and She always will :)

ЛыSSый
03-30-2015, 01:40 AM
....

Seraph of the End
03-30-2015, 07:59 PM
Then there is Torbalan,who is only in Bulgarian folklore I think,he is a creepy old man who walks around with a big bag on his back in which he stuffs naughty children who dont listen to their parents and takes them away.

We have it too, only it's called Torbar/Čiča (if memory serves me well). My grandparents always used stories about him to scare my sister and me when we get restless. It worked every time.

__
Tales about Baba Yaga (Baba Roga) were never used against me because my parents didn't like the idea of scaring their children. Nevertheless, Baba Yaga has always been a well known character in these parts. :p

Prisoner Of Ice
03-30-2015, 08:07 PM
I had this in a bundle with Robin Hood and King of Dragon Pass. Good times with old hardware.

I'm not sure playing it today would have the same effect, but at the time it was the shit.

Jägerstaffel
03-30-2015, 08:09 PM
I've always loved the Baba Yaga folklore. A witch with such strange characteristics.

King Claus
03-30-2015, 08:16 PM
Even nowadays Baba Yaga on broomstick can be spotted in Poland quite frequently ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ2te3JcKP4
i know that's you

Prisoner Of Ice
03-30-2015, 08:19 PM
I find myself enjoying older games more than new ones. Not due to nostalgia factor but because of how shit the new ones are. I keep coming back to Darklands everytime.

I have to try that one some day, somehow I missed it.

UkrainianGirl
10-19-2016, 07:52 AM
My parents scared me with Baba Yaga when I was little. But I would say, "Well where is the ugly creature?"

That was the end of that lol

Marzipan
10-21-2016, 08:33 PM
Baba Yaga, The Confounding Crone of Slavic Folklore

Source: http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends-europe/baba-yaga-confounding-crone-slavic-folklore-002836

http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/field/image/Baba-Yaga.jpg

Baba Yaga is considered one of the most intriguing characters from Slavic mythology. As ambiguous as she is hideous, Baba Yaga has been described by scholars as an anomaly, both a maternal, mother-nature figure and an evil villain who enjoys eating those who fail to complete her tasks. Though the origins of her name are as unclear as her purpose tends to be, it is believed that baba means something akin to “old woman” or “grandmother”, while yaga has conflicting theories of meaning ranging from “snake” to “wicked.” Regardless, even Baba Yaga’s name emphasizes the strangeness of her person, making her an interesting character to decipher.

The most common portrayal of Baba Yaga is as either one old woman or a trio of old sisters, all of whom are depicted as skinny, with iron teeth, and noses so long that they touch the ceiling when they sleep.

Baba Yaga is commonly illustrated as riding around on a mortar rather than a broom, wielding a pestle as both a flying aid and a wand. Tales involving her usually take place at her hut. It is found deep in the woods, standing on magical chicken legs, with a rooster's head on top. Legend says her hut is surrounded by a fence made of human bones.

Inside her hut, heroes usually encounter her stretching across her cooking stove, the enormous stove itself reaching from one side of the hut to the other, subtly emphasizing her size and magic. The stove is another common detail in tales of the Baba Yaga as the punishment for the failure of certain tasks is a fate of being cooked and eaten. Despite an ambitious appetite, however, Baba Yaga is always portrayed as skinny and bony, with her own epithet of “the bony one”.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Baba-Yaga-sculpture.jpg?itok=NNKWb66r
Sculpture depicting the gnarly-faced character of Baba Yaga

The characterization of Baba Yaga is where much of the uncertainty surrounding her comes from. She varies between acting as abenefactor and a villain, either helping the hero of the Slavic myth or hindering him or her. Though it appears she never goes after anyone unprovoked—that is to say, without the person at least coming to the door of her hut—she appears to follow little or few morals. Nevertheless, whatever promise she makes to the hero after his completion of her tasks, she keeps.

Most of the prominent stories about Baba Yaga are not about her directly but about heroes who encounter her.

In one story, “Vasilisa the Beautiful”, Vasilisa is a Cinderella type character with a magical doll, whose mother died and father remarried a horrible woman with equally unkind daughters. When Vasilisa's father goes away for a trip, the new stepmother sells their house and moves her and the three girls to a cottage in the woods, giving the daughters impossible tasks to complete by candlelight. It is when Vasilisa ventures out of the house at the demand of her stepsisters to find more light that she encounters Baba Yaga, who presents numerous difficult chores to Vasilisa in exchange for a fire to take back to her household. With the aid of the doll, Vasilisa completes all the tasks and is given a fire in a skull lantern which incinerates her horrible new family upon her return home. Inevitably, Vasilisa's story ends on a happy note, with her wedding the tsar of Russia, but it is Baba Yaga’s role in her tale that is most


Baba Yaga acts both an obstacle for Vasilisa as well as a savior, as without the lantern Vasilisa would never have been free of her cruel stepfamily. However, the way in which Baba Yaga frees her is terrible, revealing her as an unmoral, dangerous woman. Unlike the fairy godmother from the original Cinderella story, Baba Yaga appears more like the wicked stepmother who allows her daughter to cut off her foot so it will fit in the glass slipper. Baba Yaga goes to extraordinary lengths to free Vasilisa, instigating three painful deaths—as well as causing Vasilisa much grief before letting her leave the hut—rather than merely helping Vasilisa escape her stepfamily.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/Baba-Yaga-of-Russian-fairy-tales.jpg
Baba Yaga of Russian fairy tales depicted on post card. Illustration circa 1917

Baba Yaga is also cast as a Mother Earth figure, having an influence on the natural world through three of her servants as witnessed by Vasilisa. Twice Vasilisa sees three riders—the first white, the second red, and the third black. Upon asking who they were, Baba Yaga replies that they are Day, the sun, and Night, respectively, each controlled by her, each a servant of hers. In this instance, the reader can see the span of Baba Yaga's power, further implying that she could have used much gentler means in the dismissal of Vasilisa's family but chose not to.

Another story of Baba Yaga involves peasant children, again the victims of a cruel stepmother.

In the tale, the children are sent to Baba Yaga to be rid of, but they manage to escape the witch’s hut through the help of all the animals, plants, and objects Baba Yaga neglects. A black cat helps them plan their escape because they feed him when the witch doesn’t; a gate closes Baba Yaga off from them because she never tends it; and even the trees of the forest attempt to stand in her path because of similar mistreatment. Thus, the children return home in one piece, Baba Yaga forfeiting her search when it grows too difficult. Again, this tale ends happily, with the stepmother thrown out and the father protecting his children, and again, Baba Yaga’s role is one of an obstacle. She might otherwise have not bothered the children if they had not bothered her first.

Thus, despite being considered a deity akin to Mother Nature, the natural world turns on her because of their suffering at her hands.Again, this evidences why scholars still find her so difficult to place in any one category and why she ranges many.

It is because of the elusive nature of her character that Baba Yaga remains such an intriguing mythical individual, and continues to be discussed and researched by scholars. She adds a level of mystery and uncertainty to each of the tales she takes part in, as the reader is uncertain until her final action whether her intentions will be villainous or redemptive. Though this dilemma of whether she is good or evil is only one of many considerations, it lays the basis for her analysis throughout Slavic literature.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Baba-Yaga-of-Slavic-legend.jpg?itok=03q4Uy2w
Illustration of a hag-like, long-nosed Baba Yaga of Slavic legend. 1911

I am quite jealous of her, top of the line kitchen, her dress in this last picture. The way she is described; she is all woman.
Her physical description along with her name seems common to describe a woman with great power.
If she is a personification of nature it is natural to be neither good or evil. Is it unnatural for Slavic tradition for nature to be represented as both why scholars are confused. Many cultures depict nature as both.
Do you posses any of the stories with her?




My grandmother used to scare me with her as a child.She said If I don't get home before its dark Baba Yaga will eat me.I was always outside very late when I was a kid and that was one way to get me home.

Then there is Torbalan,who is only in Bulgarian folklore I think,he is a creepy old man who walks around with a big bag on his back in which he stuffs naughty children who dont listen to their parents and takes them away.

If you ever have spare time, I hope you will make a thread for Torbalan.

10-21-2016, 08:54 PM
Tales about Baba Yaga (Baba Roga) were never used against me because my parents didn't like the idea of scaring their children.

how you are slavic if not scared by her?)) joking aside, i appreciate your parents. agree with them.

by the way people here already know that, she is real -- dont they? im asking because i wanted to make sure they dont think other wise :D BABA YAGA IS FOR REAL

Mikula
11-04-2016, 09:14 PM
Scenes from my favorite Russian fairy-tale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Frost_(1964_film)) dubbed to Czech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fASAbvg9U8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD63WRvX3nw

Marzipan
11-04-2016, 10:01 PM
Scenes from my favorite Russian fairy-tale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Frost_(1964_film)) dubbed to Czech
Dubbed in Czech :pout:

Ülev
11-04-2016, 10:07 PM
Dubbed in Czech :pout:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B 7%D0%BA%D0%BE

Marzipan
11-04-2016, 10:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B 7%D0%BA%D0%BE

Thank you. Not sure how this will help me but I will find it.

Dandelion
11-04-2016, 10:22 PM
Scenes from my favorite Russian fairy-tale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Frost_(1964_film)) dubbed to Czech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fASAbvg9U8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD63WRvX3nw

Funny how she's portrayed by a man. That makes her seem rather comical than scary in that film.

Dandelion
11-04-2016, 10:30 PM
I've heard about Baba Yaga and the Chicken-legged hut before. Now I can finally place it.

Melki
12-12-2016, 04:42 PM
Ania Stas: the best ambassadress of Russia in France.

She ensures that Frenchmen love Russia and its rich culture.

http://apprendre-le-russe-avec-ania.fr/ma-russie/

From world-famous author Mikail Bulgakov to the trendiest Russian rock bands Russia has much more to offer than Putin and Gazprom, much more...

...including popular Russian folk tales, like the tale of the 12 months.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csD3qt8mtYo

Rethel
12-12-2016, 05:13 PM
In russian tales Yagi it were N, C, Q asian folks.
Especially her house is of ugrofinian pedegree.

More than that, I consider, that Mecca should be demolished.

Rethel
12-12-2016, 05:15 PM
The true story of Yaga below.
(english subtitles)

Ceterum censeo Meccam delendam esse!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKbuFYd468w

ЛыSSый
12-12-2016, 05:23 PM
Rethel, little bro, may we ask you: is baba Yaga commy or not?

Rethel
12-12-2016, 05:26 PM
Rethel, little bro, may we ask you: is baba Yaga commy or not?

Of course is. From PRCh :p

Hehe, Yagi: http://www.diomedia.com/search/yagi.html :laugh:

Ülev
12-12-2016, 05:34 PM
Rethel, little bro, may we ask you: is baba Yaga commy or not?


Of course is. From PRCh :p

Hehe, Yagi: http://www.diomedia.com/search/yagi.html :laugh:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=16005&dateline=1481202450

actually Baba Yaga is from Galicia, she lived in Horreo

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Galice_horreo.jpgg/Galice_horreo.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B3rreo

WeirdLookingFellow
12-12-2016, 05:35 PM
Baba Yaga is also in the Moldavian folklore intensely. She gets different names (but everybody knows her true name, Baba Yaga), and she appears either as a maternal figure or as a evil figure. All the time she is portrayed as living alone in the woods.

Seya
12-12-2016, 05:49 PM
as a child, i used to have this book ..
http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/heroine-Vasilisa.jpg?itok=G9hpOOE6
and i was fascinated by this exact image...i was staring at it by hours...

RenaRyuguu
07-31-2019, 05:24 AM
bump

Veneda
09-13-2020, 06:29 PM
Baba Yaga in the sky with broomstick
https://i.postimg.cc/v8LMtr5g/fghjk.png

Ülev
09-13-2020, 06:32 PM
chemtrails

Veneda
09-13-2020, 06:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNUeY0OK5-g

Nebelung_m
09-21-2020, 04:50 PM
Fascinating imagery!

102380

Loki
09-21-2020, 05:03 PM
Obviously an evil witch, someone to stay away from.

Blondie
09-21-2020, 05:11 PM
Baba Yaga is part of hungarian folklore too.

Ülev
09-21-2020, 05:15 PM
Baba Yaga connecting people