Haplogroup I and height

[JQP4545]

Many of the genes that control height are on the y chromosome: http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.86.9.7875
The tallest countries in the world are in Scandinavia and the Balkans. This matches the distribution of haplogroup I pretty well: http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_I-borders.gif. http://www.averageheight.co/average-male-height-by-country

[Sockorer]

That's good to know. It's great to be tall and it's great to have haplogroup I.

It's assuring to know that my sons will not be manlets.

[de Burgh II]

Makes sense... its like there is a good correlation with Mesolithic influenced individuals especially those with CM/Upper Patholithic phenotypes influence a disposition towards such genetics such as robustness/ tall height.

[Proctor]

I have tall people genes but I'm not very tall.

[Unome]

Yes, haplogroup 'I' y-DNA is the tallest for humans.

[Dick]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

A particular genetic profile in men called Y haplotype I-M170 is correlated with height. Ecological data shows that as the frequency of this genetic profile increases in the population, the average male height in a country also increases.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414258/bin/rsos161054-g5.jpg

[Pony]

I'm short

[EasternEurope]

Very true and accurate in many cases.

[Norka]

Bullshit how does a gene that affects your gender correlate to your height? I have BalkanNigger E-V13 and I'm 195cm. You know why? Because my parents are tall not because of my gene that gives me a dick. Y-DNA gives you a dick not your height, phenotype or any other bullshit you bunch of silly cunts want to think up.

[Rethel]

Makes sense... its like there is a good correlation with Mesolithic influenced individuals especially those with CM/Upper Patholithic phenotypes influence a disposition towards such genetics such as robustness/ tall height.

No is not.
Mesolithic I-people were smallest that mesolithic East europeans who were R1.

And btw, if it would be true, then women should be normal.
They arent - they are also higher than rest european population.
Do they also have I-chromosome? :picard2:

[Rethel]

Yes, haplogroup 'I' y-DNA is the tallest for humans.

Nilotes have it? :picard2:

[Jana]

Nilotes have it? :picard2:

Dinaric alps have it, and dinaric alps are tallest place on globe.

I-haplogroup is definitelly tall gene, Stears is I and 195 cm :D <3

[Jana]

The R- haplogroup of midgets :D

[Ülev]

The R- haplogroup of midgets :D

the holy truth has been revealed

[Turkminator]

The R- haplogroup of midgets :D

R1a -193cm tall and a cold look like a machine.

[Rethel]

The R- haplogroup of midgets :D

Yes, one of Pygmy tribe has 3% of R.

I would agree with you, if the ancient record wouldn;t claim otherwise.
It is just allready proven, that Oldeuropeans were smaller than Indoeuropens.
It is not anywishfuyll thuinking, but just a fact, which even Leftpedia admmits.
The difference was around 10 cm and more as OEs were many different tribes.

[Rethel]

Dinaric alps have it, and dinaric alps are tallest place on globe.

I-haplogroup is definitelly tall gene, Stears is I and 195 cm :D <3

So, why wmen in this tall populations are also taller?
Do thou have also an Y chromosome? Really? :rolleyes:

[Ülev]

Yes, one of Pygmy tribe has 3% of R.

I would agree with you, if the ancient record wouldn;t claim otherwise.
It is just allready proven, that Oldeuropeans were smaller than Indoeuropens.
It is not anywishfuyll thuinking, but just a fact, which even Leftpedia admmits.
The difference was around 10 cm and more as OEs were many different tribes.

lol, Russians produce tanks and infantry fighting vehicles for midgets, and officially Russia is full of R1, how come?

[Jana]

So, why wmen in this tall populations are also taller?
Do thou have also an Y chromosome? Really? :rolleyes:

Because our fathers and borthers are I-men too. :)

[Jana]

So, why wmen in this tall populations are also taller?
Do thou have also an Y chromosome? Really? :rolleyes:

Because our fathers and brothers are I-men too. :)

[Rethel]

It is not anywishfuyll thuinking, but just a fact, which even Leftpedia admmits.

Indoeuropeans:
(https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/yamna_culture.shtml#Phenotypes)
The average height for Yamnayan men was 175.5cm (5 ft 9 in),
approximately the same as the modern average for American and
French men, and slightly taller than the average Mesolithic EHG
men, who stood at 173.2 cm.

Oldeuropeans 1: (https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/funnelbeaker_culture.shtml)

Funnel-beaker people reached a height of 165 cm for men and 153
cm for women in average. They rarely lived over 35 or 40 years old.

Oldeuropeans 2: (https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/linear_pottery_culture.shtml)

LBK people had an average body height of 166.6 cm for men (ranging
from 156.5 to 175.5 cm) and 158 cm for women, considerably shorter
than Mesolithic Europeans of the same period.

And take unto account, that leftpedia is anti-IE. For
indoeuropeanism you can be banned there. So, if they
something like that admit, it has additional value.

These are pure not mixed populations.
Only then you can find the real answer, and the answer
on corelation between hg and height is: no. Especially if
someone claim that hg I = tall height. When I-men were
left alone they were smaller than these who lived in the
East. So if you want some corelation, then it is corelate
with R, not I, as the old reality proofed. Anything else is
just a fantasy, not supported by evidences.

[Rethel]

lol, Russians produce tanks and infantry fighting vehicles for midgets, and officially Russia is full of R1, how come?

Only 50%, rest is non-R1.
Many small mongoloids in addition.
So, who do you think they hire there??

[Antimage]

Dinaric alps have it, and dinaric alps are tallest place on globe.

I-haplogroup is definitelly tall gene, Stears is I and 195 cm :D <3

I think the dutch are taller.

[Root]

if haplogroup I <- tallest
then
haplogroup O <- fattest

[Jana]

I think the dutch are taller.

Dinaric alps are taller than Netherlands, their average is around 186 cm.
But Netherlands is taller than individual countries that have parts in dinaric alps.

[Jana]

In Croatia R1a dominant regions are shorther and lighter pigmented. I2 dominated regions are taller and darker pigmented.

This is general rule.

[Jana]

Together with the Dutch, Montenegrins and Dalmatians, men from Herzegovina (183.4 cm) can be regarded as the tallest in the world. Because both nutritional standards and socioeconomic conditions are still deeply suboptimal, the most likely explanation of this exceptional height lies in specific genetic factors associated with the spread of Y haplogroup I-M170. The genetic potential for height in this region could then be the greatest in the world. Future studies should further elucidate the roots of this intriguing phenomenon, which touches an important aspect of human biodiversity.

Putting all the data together, the researchers concluded that the most likely cause of larger-than-average height of Herzegovinian men is lifestyle during the Paleolithic—men hunted large animals such as mammoth for survival—such a diet, heavy in protein, combined with small population densities, would have provided ideal conditions for height selection, resulting in increasingly taller men who passed the trait down through their I-M170 chromosome to future generations.

The region of the Dinaric Alps has historically been renowned for the remarkable body size of its inhabitants and from the anthropological view, it may well be the most fascinating area in the world. At the end of the 19th century, the mean height of people from Montenegro was 177 cm and those from Herzegovina 175–176 cm. Bosnian soldiers in the Austro-Hungarian army in 1895 were 172.4 cm tall . These were unusually high values in the period, when the majority of European countries barely reached 170 cm.

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-04-tallness-herzegovinian-men-linked-gene.html#jCp

[Ülev]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207511-Happy-I-m-not-R1a

[Rethel]

[B]Together with the Dutch, Montenegrins and Dalmatians, men from Herzegovina (183.4 cm) can be regarded as the tallest in the world.

Netherlands 54% R1 vs. 1% I2a. (24% all I)
Bośnia 22% R1 vs. 50% I2 (exactly opposite)
Montenegro: 30% I2 vs. 70% of rest.

So, what's the point?

If population with 100% of hg "I" was
not taller, how then fractal could be? :bored:

Height just depends on other genes, not hg. Otherwise,
men would be 190, but woman 150. It is not the case.

[kingjohn]

Nilotes have it? :picard2:

you got a point dude
they are E not i-m170

[Userius]

This thread is one reason why women should stay in the kitchen, and pseudo-scientists should shut up and sit down.

Yes, I did just necro! Deal with it.

[Bosniensis]

That's good to know. It's great to be tall and it's great to have haplogroup I.

It's assuring to know that my sons will not be manlets.

I M170 elite race xD

Vikings, Serbs, Ukrainains...

Who would want better company? xD

[Purohit ji]

I am most probably r1a. 194

[mieret]

correlation is not causality

[Dick]

I M170 elite race xD

Vikings, Serbs, Ukrainains...

Who would want better company? xD


Tallness in Herzegovinian men linked to gene passed down from ancient big game hunters
April 12, 2017 by Bob Yirka, Phys.org report

It has been noted that men from Herzegovina are taller on average than men in other places—the average male height is just over six feet. But why the men there are so tall has been a mystery, especially considering the relative poverty of the area for very long periods of time. The region, in the Dinaric Alps, actually boasts the tallest average male height, though the Netherlands, a country that has enjoyed a high standard of living and thus a strong diet for a very long time, holds the record for tallest average for an entire nation. To understand why men in Herzegovina are so tall, the researchers started by looking at the I-M170 chromosome, which prior research has shown is highly prevalent in Herzegovinian people—approximately 70 percent have it.

https://phys.org/news/2017-04-tallness-herzegovinian-men-linked-gene.html


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https://i.imgur.com/nAWB28U.jpg

[Jana]

70 % I is only among Herzegovina Croats, Herzegovina Serbs and Bosniaks have double less than that. Although I am not sure how reliable data we have.

My maternal side (din N) is very tall, and paternal (din S) is of average height.

[Weiss]

Im personally im253 and 194cm

[Norb]

I midgets

[Dekziiro]

Caucasus J2 > I

[Podlachian]

Caucasus J2 > I

What does it mean?

[Podlachian]

Here states, that original Europeans were short. Higher height came to Europe from Asia.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3330674/Europeans-owe-height-ASIAN-nomads-blue-eyes-hunter-gatherers-Ancient-DNA-plots-centuries-genetic-changes-shaped-modern-man.html

"Height is one of the defining features of people from northern Europe, but it seems they owe their towering stature to an ancient group of nomads from central Asia's steppes. Researchers studying DNA from Stone Age human remains have, for the first time, been able to track some of the key genetic changes that shaped modern Europeans. In particular, they found that people from northern Europe owe their height to Bronze-age populations from the Eurasian steppes who migrated into the region. Southern Europeans, on the other hand, owe their short stature to Neolithic hunter gatherers and later copper-age farmers living in Iberia."

[Mens-Sarda]

I don't think there is a correlation between haplogroup I and tall people. About 45% of Sardinians have I haplogroup and we are not very tall.

[RandomGuy20]

Interesting theory, though I don't think haplogroup alone determines height. For example my Dad is 6', I am 5' 7.5" and my bro is 5' 5.5". While our dad is tall, in a Western context my bro and I are considered short despite having the same haplogroup.