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Lady L
01-21-2009, 03:14 PM
Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.

They may remind you of another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.

Known as "Prussian Blue" -- a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes -- the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.
"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white ... we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."

Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."

April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs -- specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.

"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand."

Teaching Hate
Songs like "Sacrifice" -- a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer -- clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."

"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund -- though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught.
On that point, April Gaede and Ted Shaw apparently agree.

"Well, all children pretty much espouse their parents' attitudes," she said. "We're white nationalists and of course that's a part of our life and I'm going to share that part of my life with my children."

Since they began singing, the girls have become such a force in the white nationalist movement, that David Duke -- the former presidential candidate, one-time Ku-Klux-Klan grand wizard and outspoken white supremacist -- uses the twins to draw a crowd.

Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause.

"Eleven and 12 years old," he said, "I think that's the perfect age to start grooming kids and instill in them a strong racial identity."

Gliebe, who targets young, mainstream white rockers at music festivals like this past summer's "Ozzfest," says he uses music to get his message out.

But with names like Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans, these tunes are far more extreme than the ones sung by Lamb and Lynx.

"We give them a CD, we give them something as simple as a stick, they can go to our Web site and see other music and download some of our music," said Gliebe. "To me, that's the best propaganda tool for our youth."

A Taste for Hate
Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist.

One of Sugg's songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: "Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain't white you'll be dead."

"I'd like to compare it to gangsta rap," explained Sugg, "where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping whores."

Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that "it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s."
Perhaps not, but Shaw says it's the ideas in the music that are dangerous.

"When you talk about people being dead if they're not white," said Shaw, "I don't think there is much question that that is hateful."

A Place to Call Home
Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message.

Like many children across the country, Lamb and Lynx decided to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina -- the white ones.

The girls' donations were handed out by a White Nationalist organization who also left a pamphlet promoting their group and beliefs -- some of the intended recipients were more than a little displeased.

After a day of trying, the supplies ended up with few takers, dumped at a local shop that sells Confederate memorabilia.

Last month, the girls were scheduled to perform at the local county fair in their hometown. But when some people in the community protested, Prussian Blue was removed from the line-up.

But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest.

http://abcnews.go.com/primetime/Story?id=1231684&page=1


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Beorn
01-21-2009, 04:18 PM
Was I right it believing one of them has since gone on to denounce her 'musical past' and is now what the mainstream call, "normal" ?

Pino
01-21-2009, 04:38 PM
either way that article is very old the girls are somthing like 16 or 17 now and after seeing a documentary about them about 12 months ago I must say they are hardly hardened racial nationalists and where basically doing it because there Mother got them to do it.

Brynhild
01-21-2009, 07:48 PM
either way that article is very old the girls are somthing like 16 or 17 now and after seeing a documentary about them about 12 months ago I must say they are hardly hardened racial nationalists and where basically doing it because there Mother got them to do it.

Yes, it seems to me that since the only person who was teaching the girls these values is their mum, they have been spoon-fed to grow up knowing her specific beliefs only.

Loddfafner
01-21-2009, 09:55 PM
I predict that when they reach that certain age of rebelliousness, they will join ARA.

SwordoftheVistula
01-22-2009, 04:11 AM
From what I've heard, they just dropped out so that they could have more 'normal' lives.

Pino
01-22-2009, 12:29 PM
From what I've heard, they just dropped out so that they could have more 'normal' lives.

I can understand that to an extent, I guess in a sense when you are the only family in your area practising the beliefs you do you do feel very segeragated and a social mis-fit, especially teenage girls, I think there movie threw them into the deep end at an early age and took it to a bit of an extreme level removing her Girls from society completely by locking them in there home and home schooling them, although I think she had good intentions from doing this by not having her daughters in the filth known as modern society but by doing it the Girls as they got older where always going to rebel.

I question whether they did infact drop out because they just wanted to be out of the spotlight and live more normal lives however, after some of the stuff the girls came out with on that documentary they clearly where not happy with the life there Mother had chose for them, to quote what one of them said

"We where learning about Martin Luther King in school the other day and what the Whites did to him and his people and I felt gulity"

Vulpix
01-22-2009, 01:00 PM
You can watch/download the "Nazi Pop Twins" (:D...) documentary here (http://www.archive.org/details/MichielSmit.comPrussionBlueMichielSmit.com).

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4972/nazipoptwinsya5.jpg


Nazi Pop Twins (http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/N/nazi_pop/index.html) is a one-off, one hour documentary where filmmaker James Quinn investigates the controversial American pop band Prussian Blue, whose teenage twin girl stars have made headlines across the world with their white nationalist music and as poster girls of neo-Nazism. Prussian Blue , named after the chemical residue from Holocaust gas chambers, are 14 year olds Lamb and Lynx Gaede who with their long blonde hair, sparkling blue eyes aren't your typical teeny boppers – they're white nationalists.

Californian, but proud of their German ancestry, the pop duo have been performing white nationalistic songs before all-white audiences since they were nine.

Since their arrival on the pop scene, Lamb and Lynx have gained thousands of column inches and ignited global outrage across the world with their very own brand of pop in which they sing the praises of Rudolph Hess, promote holocaust denial and dream of a White America.

Filmed over a year, Nazi Pop Twins follows James as he is invited into the home of the Gaede family where he aims to discover the secrets of the twin's notoriety and the motivation behind their controversial music.

As the family allow James and the cameras into their lives, he discovers some disturbing truths beneath the happy family image that determined mother/manager April likes to project. Is she, in fact, just using Lamb and Lynx as a mouthpiece for her own extremist views?

Galloglaich
01-22-2009, 01:05 PM
I haven't had time to watch the documentary yet (but I plan to), and admittedly my only exposure to the duo are a few songs that I just You Tubed up, but my initial reaction is that at the end of the day they just aren't all that talented musically (although they do have a cool folksy vibe). I'd bet that if their lyrical content were different no one would have ever heard of them.

Pino
01-22-2009, 01:16 PM
I haven't had time to watch the documentary yet (but I plan to), and admittedly my only exposure to the duo are a few songs that I just You Tubed up, but my initial reaction is that at the end of the day they just aren't all that talented musically (although they do have a cool folksy vibe). I'd bet that if their lyrical content were different no one would have ever heard of them.

I think some of there newer stuff is good, granted when they where 12 and 13 there voices definately wern't up to it!

Lady L
01-22-2009, 02:24 PM
I enjoyed the documentary. :) I had never heard of these girls until I posted this....:lightbul:

It did seem they were a little pushed by their mother. But, that doesn't mean they aren't walking away with a clear understanding. There can be many levels to racism, white nationalism...some are to far for me, over the top...some are not. I find something in the middle, something more productive than harmful a good place to be in it all.

Again, isn't it funny how its all turned out...? These two girls, and their mother criticized and hated. But, if it was a story about these two girls singing ni**er music...there would be no story. ;)

Revenant
01-22-2009, 02:51 PM
I didn't know anything of them either. It all seems pretty tame to me after looking it over. Especially compared to the slop culture 'normal' girls their age are usually into.

The mother probably should have kept them out of the media limelight though, until they were older.

Jägerstaffel
01-22-2009, 11:11 PM
I watched the documentary a while back. Can't really say I support the girls - I'm not a big fan of indoctrination and those girls didn't seem proud of ideas that they had formed on their own.

There's a difference between raising kids proud of their culture and blood and indoctrination. I remember at one point the mother is teaching the ABC's to the baby daughter 'A is for Aryan, B is for Blood, C is for ... etc'

Absinthe
01-23-2009, 12:56 PM
Can't really say I support the girls - I'm not a big fan of indoctrination and those girls didn't seem proud of ideas that they had formed on their own.


Nail on the head!

I actually remember an old discussion on Skadi where Jennifer argued that this sort of indoctrination is not much different from child abuse...

I have to agree 100% with that, raising children in a traditional way is not the same as having a semi-deranged mother making them wear Hitler t-shirts, brainwashing them about White Nationalism and pushing them in the 'Aryan show business' same as other mothers push their kids to beauty pageants and talent shows...

Pino
01-23-2009, 01:14 PM
Nail on the head!

I actually remember an old discussion on Skadi where Jennifer argued that this sort of indoctrination is not much different from child abuse...

I have to agree 100% with that, raising children in a traditional way is not the same as having a semi-deranged mother making them wear Hitler t-shirts, brainwashing them about White Nationalism and pushing them in the 'Aryan show business' same as other mothers push their kids to beauty pageants and talent shows...

yeah and the kids grow up to hate there Mother for it as they grow older for pushing them into things, or atleast hate the the thing they where getting pushed into.

Alteast beauty pageants and talent shows you get acknowledged and win competitions, White Nationalist activism is mainly off your own back and there is little thanks for it, it's really not somthing pre-teen girls would enjoy. Sure bring them along to events they can socialize with other peoples kids there and hopefully when they are all being gently taught good values and traditions by there parents it will rub off on them but putting them at the centre of White Nationalist events is just too much.

I could easily handle the entire world and media starting a hate campaign against me for my racist music (but turns out I wasn't blessed with a good voice!!) but teenage girls will never be able to handle it and I dont know why a Mother would put there children in a situation like that where they are at risk of being attacked daily.