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jos_sk
04-13-2015, 10:19 PM
I'm from Spain, I'm 1,88 tall and I weigh 86 kg.
What do you think?

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Ivan Kramskoï
04-13-2015, 10:20 PM
berid

Hadouken
04-13-2015, 10:26 PM
Berid

leisitox
04-13-2015, 10:26 PM
Textbook Berid :)

Dylan
04-13-2015, 10:31 PM
if berid means berber, then i agree with the above.

Bagot
04-13-2015, 10:54 PM
Textbook berid

jos_sk
04-14-2015, 09:21 AM
What do you think where can I pass?
Just curious.

themrdude1990
04-14-2015, 09:22 AM
Spain greece bulgaria

jos_sk
04-14-2015, 01:22 PM
The last time I went abroad (to The Netherlands) few Dutch people asked me if I'm French and Italian. However, most of them knew intuitivbely that I'm Spaniard.

dawson
04-14-2015, 01:31 PM
you're big

jos_sk
04-14-2015, 02:38 PM
you're big

And what you guys call as "berid" are not big and tall at all.

themrdude1990
04-14-2015, 03:19 PM
The last time I went abroad (to The Netherlands) few Dutch people asked me if I'm French and Italian. However, most of them knew intuitivbely that I'm Spaniard.

You can pass in southern italy and some parts in north africa and yo don't look french at all but maybe because you're taller than the average berid people may assume that

Green
04-14-2015, 05:31 PM
¿de que provincia eres?

Davy Jones's Locker
04-14-2015, 06:12 PM
Berid.

MsSPF
04-14-2015, 06:21 PM
Berid, definitely

leisitox
04-14-2015, 06:23 PM
And what you guys call as "berid" are not big and tall at all.

Populations change, Berids are CM so sure they can grow tall now :)

Porpolita
04-14-2015, 07:16 PM
Berid


if berid means berber, then i agree with the above.

No, that would be Berberid. Berid looks like something between Atlanto-Med/Atlantid and Berberid.


What do you think where can I pass?
Just curious.

Pass as darker Spanish, Portuguese, South Italian, Greek or Bulgarian.

Also as a lighter Moroccan or Algerian

solaris
04-14-2015, 07:29 PM
arabia is calling.

Hadouken
04-14-2015, 07:30 PM
arabia is calling.

you are one to talk

post your pics and show him the face that says that

solaris
04-14-2015, 07:32 PM
you are one to talk

post your pics and show him the face that says that

langsam bürschchen.

Hadouken
04-14-2015, 07:33 PM
langsam bürschchen.

ist doch so...

und du nennst mich nicht bürschchen

MsSPF
04-14-2015, 07:35 PM
Berid



No, that would be Berberid. Berid looks like something between Atlanto-Med/Atlantid and Berberid.



Pass as darker Spanish, Portuguese, South Italian, Greek or Bulgarian.

Also as a lighter Moroccan or Algerian

I agree, but I don't find him particulary light for a Moroccan or an Algerian... Northern of course. I would even say he has a quite common look for Algerian and Moroccan from the north

Sikeliot
04-14-2015, 07:53 PM
You can pass anywhere that Berid types occur. Iberia, NW Africa, Sicily, Malta, Cyprus, Dodecanese, etc.

Porpolita
04-14-2015, 07:58 PM
I agree, but I don't find him particulary light for a Moroccan or an Algerian... Northern of course. I would even say he has a quite common look for Algerian and Moroccan from the north

I've seen lighter and darker North Africans, and he is definitely on the lighter side of the spectrum

Sikeliot
04-14-2015, 07:59 PM
Also we should mention that some North Africans have Iberian ancestry due to the Reconquista, and this might explain this look there also.

Casandrinos
04-14-2015, 08:03 PM
How can this man cluster in Central Europe? xD

MsSPF
04-14-2015, 08:04 PM
I've seen lighter and darker North Africans, and he is definitely on the lighter side of the spectrum

Yes, I agree. North Africa is very diverse


Also we should mention that some North Africans have Iberian ancestry due to the Reconquista, and this might explain this look there also.

Yes, you absolutely right especially in NorthMorocco and NorthWest Algeria

Sikeliot
04-14-2015, 08:05 PM
How can this man cluster in Central Europe? xD

What makes you think he does?

He'd be between southern French and northern Italians, but with probably ~5% NW African.

dawson
04-14-2015, 08:06 PM
How can this man cluster in Central Europe? xD

Atlantic Facade

Casandrinos
04-14-2015, 08:07 PM
What makes you think he does?

He'd be between southern French and northern Italians, but with probably ~5% NW African.


Still it's hard to believe judging by phenotype

I've never seen Berid north Italians

Sikeliot
04-14-2015, 08:08 PM
Which is like west of central Italy no?

Still it's hard to believe judging by phenotype

Actually.. on most plots Spanish plot north of northern Italians by a small margin, but just south of the southern French. Yes, it can be hard to believe indeed. Then in turn you start getting some Albanians and mainland Greeks plotting with/around Tuscans but shifted slightly eastward, which makes sense since there is some NE Euro genes in the Balkans from Indo-European times.

Casandrinos
04-14-2015, 08:10 PM
Actually.. on most plots Spanish plot north of northern Italians by a small margin, but just south of the southern French. Yes, it can be hard to believe indeed. .

Is there any professional study for this?

again, i've never seen north Italians looking Berid/North African

Sikeliot
04-14-2015, 08:13 PM
Is there any professional study for this?

again, i've never seen north Italians looking Berid/North African

North Italians have higher Caucasian admixture, which makes them plot south/east of Iberians but not necessarily look as dark.. Caucasian is not a "dark" component.

Casandrinos
04-14-2015, 08:19 PM
North Italians have higher Caucasian admixture, which makes them plot south/east of Iberians but not necessarily look as dark.. Caucasian is not a "dark" component.

How can you know?

These components are a bunch of genes that determine ancestry not pigmentation.

Maybe that's why Iberians are the swarthiest Europeans (due to climate adaption)

Sikeliot
04-14-2015, 08:21 PM
How can you know?

These components are a bunch of genes that determine ancestry not pigmentation.

Maybe that's why Iberians are the swarthiest Europeans (due to climate adaption)

"Caucasus" element peaks in Georgians and north Caucasian people, who are not that dark.

Porpolita
04-14-2015, 08:25 PM
Spanish plot north of northern Italians by a small margin, but just south of the southern French

This is based on history.

Spain used to be located between Lyon and Turin. But Spaniards complained that it was too cold in the Alps, so they moved it south to its present location, brick by brick.

Casandrinos
04-14-2015, 08:25 PM
"Caucasus" element peaks in Georgians and north Caucasian people, who are not that dark.

That might be explained through other dominant traits in their genome that make them light.


Although i don't think they are as light as presented on anthroforums.

solaris
04-14-2015, 08:33 PM
ist doch so...

und du nennst mich nicht bürschchen

wurde nie für einen araber gehalten, jüngchen.

Hadouken
04-15-2015, 12:05 AM
wurde nie für einen araber gehalten, jüngchen.

siehst sehr kanackig aus für einen europäer ...bin nur ehrlich ...und es ist ja nichts schlimmes (im gegenteil no homo)

und ich will hier nicht einen auf forumpolizist machen aber warum trollst du die threads von leuten ? war der kommentar notwendig ? er will ganz normal klassifiziert werden und du nennst ihn arab obwhol du selbst exotisch aussiehst

du hast auch schon komische kommentare über mich gemacht aber ich habs als spaß genommen (manche waren sogar witzig) aber dieses forum ist schon genug voller trolle und wir sind erwachsene leute also bitte benimm dich ma

dawson
04-15-2015, 12:25 AM
That might be explained through other dominant traits in their genome that make them light.


Although i don't think they are as light as presented on anthroforums.

Georgians look like this:

http://previews.123rf.com/images/elvinphoto/elvinphoto1407/elvinphoto140700046/29629589-moscow-russia--june-29-2014-merab-kvirikashvili-of-georgia-in-the-quarter-final-match-with-russia-du.jpg

dawson
04-15-2015, 12:31 AM
i've never seen north Italians looking Berid/North African

:wtf