Gültekin's FTDNA MyOrigins Results

[gültekin]

finally i received my results yesterday.
http://i.hizliresim.com/EYl2l8.jpg
DODECAD RESULTS
http://i.hizliresim.com/YBPVl2.jpg
http://i.hizliresim.com/pg428o.jpg
world9
http://i.hizliresim.com/qYqyBq.png
http://i.hizliresim.com/BMXG2Q.jpg
k12b
http://i.hizliresim.com/2g7PYq.jpg
http://i.hizliresim.com/rQLym7.jpg

EUROGENES RESULTS
http://i.hizliresim.com/3D8gEj.jpg
http://i.hizliresim.com/j5JA6g.jpg
MDLP RESULTS
http://i.hizliresim.com/3D8gg4.jpg
http://i.hizliresim.com/ZDNnjA.jpg
Bolu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolu_Province), my hometown
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Bolu_in_Turkey.svg/300px-Bolu_in_Turkey.svg.png

[Danishmend]

Congrats Gültekin, all gedmatch calculators say that you are half Central Asian Oghuz half Anatolian native as most Anatolian Turks are. You have also Nogais and Turkmens in your top 5 populations. Genetic science has put an end to "Turkified Anatolian" myth spread by pseudo Indo European faggots LOL.

[Highlands]

Congrats! Nice results :)

[Danishmend]

http://i.hizliresim.com/n7PNLV.png (http://hizliresim.com/n7PNLV)

[Casandrinos]

Congrats Gültekin, all gedmatch calculators say that you are half Central Asian Oghuz half Anatolian native as most Anatolian Turks are. You have also Nogais and Turkmens in your top 5 populations. Genetic science has put an end to "Turkified Anatolian" myth spread by pseudo Indo European faggots LOL.

He is still pred rape offspring

[gültekin]

Congrats Gültekin, all gedmatch calculators say that you are half Central Asian Oghuz half Anatolian native as most Anatolian Turks are. You have also Nogais and Turkmens in your top 5 populations. Genetic science has put an end to "Turkified Anatolian" myth spread by pseudo Indo European faggots LOL.
one of the results were also the gagauz and uzbeks, seems i have forgotten xD

[Danishmend]

He is still pred rape offspring

Says the curly haired e1b1b peasant with 10% yamnaya (original IE) ancestry LOL. Do not derail the thread.
http://i.hizliresim.com/8gnL8n.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/8gnL8n)
http://i.hizliresim.com/n7PNLV.png

[Casandrinos]

Says the curly haired e1b1b peasant with 10% yamnaya (original IE) ancestry LOL. Do not derail the thread.
http://i.hizliresim.com/8gnL8n.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/8gnL8n)
http://i.hizliresim.com/n7PNLV.png

IE is uncool.

Congrats on being lesser East med fucked than average.

[gültekin]

Congrats Gültekin, all gedmatch calculators say that you are half Central Asian Oghuz half Anatolian native as most Anatolian Turks are. You have also Nogais and Turkmens in your top 5 populations. Genetic science has put an end to "Turkified Anatolian" myth spread by pseudo Indo European faggots LOL.
this oracle says i'm Crimian Tatar xD

MDLP World Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1 Caucaus_Parsia 27.9
2 South_and_West_European 27.02
3 Middle_East 18.44
4 North_and_East_European 11.71
5 East_Asian 5.8
6 North_Asian 4.22
7 Indian 2.29
8 Arctic_Amerind 1.37
9 Mesoamerican 0.63
10 Melanesian 0.63

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1 Tatar_Crim 7.16
2 Greek_Azov 9.44
3 Turk 11.53
4 Nogai 14.99
5 Cirkassian 15.6
6 Jew_Romania 15.84
7 Greek_Cretan 16.05
8 Ashkenazim 18.29
9 Kumyk 18.41
10 Greek_East 18.48
11 Costanoan 18.52
12 Balkarian 18.59
13 Greek_North 18.62
14 Azeri 18.66
15 Greek_South 18.72
16 Turkmen 18.8
17 Jew_Syria 18.97
18 Greek_Center 19.04
19 Ashkenazim_V 19.07
20 Kabardinian 19.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.3%Jew_Romania + 45.7%Turkmen @ 2.26
2 76.5%Tatar_Crim + 23.5%Iraqi @ 2.4
3 76.7%Tatar_Crim + 23.3%Syrian @ 2.65
4 79.2%Tatar_Crim + 20.8%Jew_Kurd @ 2.89
5 80.1%Tatar_Crim + 19.9%Jew-Iran @ 2.92
6 79.3%Tatar_Crim + 20.7%Jew_Iraqi @ 2.92
7 75.4%Tatar_Crim + 24.6%Lebanese @ 3.03
8 79.2%Tatar_Crim + 20.8%Jew-Iraqi @ 3.09
9 60.5%Nogai + 39.5%Jew_Tunisia @ 3.12
10 51.7%Turkmen + 48.3%Sicilian @ 3.18
11 77.8%Tatar_Crim + 22.2%Jew_Georgia @ 3.21
12 51.4%Turkmen + 48.6%Italian-Center @ 3.25
13 50.4%Greek_East + 49.6%Turkmen @ 3.25
14 77.5%Tatar_Crim + 22.5%Jew-Uzbekistan @ 3.27
15 89.3%Tatar_Crim + 10.7%Saudi @ 3.28
16 82.1%Tatar_Crim + 17.9%Palestinian @ 3.3
17 59.9%Nogai + 40.1%Jew_Algeria @ 3.31
18 74.7%Turk + 25.3%Colville @ 3.33
19 83.9%Tatar_Crim + 16.1%Samaritian @ 3.37
20 63.2%Nogai + 36.8%Jew_Morocco @ 3.39

[Longbowman]

Turkmen + Greek = Turk. Cool mix :)

[Sikeliot]

Interesting, you're not far from southern Italians and Sicilians either.

[Danishmend]

Send your raw data to Dr. McDonald

[Sikeliot]

Your ancestors must have pwned countless curly-haired pseudo-indo european greeks :laugh:

Can you go one thread without spewing your bullshit, thanks.

[Azalea]

Congratz on your results, Gultekin Khan. ;)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d3/bd/a0/d3bda0e5fca3e07f02f3e621cd893c2f.jpg

[gültekin]

Turkmen + Greek = Turk. Cool mix :)
do you mean the Azov-Greek? Azov is in Crimia, i think they are just hellenized kipchaks or something :confused:, because its came with the Tatars. checkout my MDLP World Oracle result 1.match is Tatar , 2. Azov 3. Turk 4. Nogai etc.

[gültekin]

Bolu, my hometown
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Bolu_Turkey_Provinces_locator.jpg

[Scholarios]

HELLO my GREEK Brother. Or should I say GIA SOU

[gültekin]

Congratz on your results, Gultekin Khan. ;)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d3/bd/a0/d3bda0e5fca3e07f02f3e621cd893c2f.jpg
regards, Azalea Khatun :)
https://41.media.tumblr.com/e584853497f923791e75eae8f68d4d54/tumblr_nhq5k8srmP1qgfba4o1_500.jpg

[Nurzat]

wonderful results. a lot of Western Euro too, huh? looks like three sources: European, Anatolian and Central Asian

[gültekin]

HELLO my GREEK Brother. Or should I say GIA SOU
one day all of you will be Turk :cool:
https://s.instela.com/m/besiktas-ve-paok-kardesligi--i612459.jpg

[Azalea]

wonderful results. a lot of Western Euro too, huh? looks like three sources: European, Anatolian and Central Asian
Gultekin his Euro is rather 'native' to Anatolia. :)

Or better said, rather a mixture of Anatolian and CA ancestry. Both regions have had these admixes since ancient times.

[gültekin]

wonderful results. a lot of Western Euro too, huh? looks like three sources: European, Anatolian and Central Asian

Gultekin his Euro is rather 'native' to Anatolia. :)

Or better said, rather a mixture of Anatolian and CA ancestry. Both regions have had these admixes since ancient times.
i guess this %17 NE-european thing is about the steppe , kipchaks, cause i get close to chrimian tatars for some reason
http://s11.postimg.org/j341173f7/harappaworld.png

[Azalea]

Yeah I think it's a combo of both Anatolian ancestry + Steppe ancestry. There is correlation between high NA ancestry and high(er) Euro admix. I am guessing it's half Anatolian in origin and half Steppe.

[Danishmend]

Most of the so called "North Europe" component in Turks is actually ANE, see Eurogenes k8

[Hadouken]

congrats abi

[Scholarios]

do you mean the Azov-Greek? Azov is in Crimia, i think they are just hellenized kipchaks or something :confused:, because its came with the Tatars. checkout my MDLP World Oracle result 1.match is Tatar , 2. Azov 3. Turk 4. Nogai etc.

He means your combined populations- Turkmen plus Greek , Turkmen plus Italian , Ashkenazi plus Turkmen. I get all those Populations in my top 5 except Turkmen and plus Sicilian , Tuscan, and Abruzzo, which you also get.

[gültekin]

He means your combined populations- Turkmen plus Greek , Turkmen plus Italian , Ashkenazi plus Turkmen. I get all those Populations in my top 5 except Turkmen and plus Sicilian , Tuscan, and Abruzzo, which you also get.
etruscians maybe, or one of you lost a chick to my grand pa :D
did you get something like that also 82.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 17.1% Aleut @ 3.51

[Pennywise]

Are these your Y-dna results gültekin?

[gültekin]

Are these your Y-dna results gültekin?
nope FTDNA myOrigins aka Autosomal. Y-dna has been delayed to (batch 614) 06/10/2015 - 06/24/2015. ftdna sucks....

[Hadouken]

:D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdkqVK0AzEk

[Sikeliot]

He means your combined populations- Turkmen plus Greek , Turkmen plus Italian , Ashkenazi plus Turkmen. I get all those Populations in my top 5 except Turkmen and plus Sicilian , Tuscan, and Abruzzo, which you also get.

Could you send your lists? I would be curious to see?

I'm sure you get South Italian, Sicilian, Ashkenazi, Greek and Tuscan, right?

[gültekin]

i think, i'm the living proof of connection between Anglojew and Turkic Khazars xD

[Geni]

Gultekin are these results "standart" to turcs,or you are particular case ?

[gültekin]

:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdkqVK0AzEk
:food-smiley-004:
http://www.alpaytek.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/k%C4%B1m%C4%B1z.jpg

[Ice]

Congratz

[gültekin]

Gultekin are these results "standart" to turcs,or you are particular case ?
what i have seen, yes similar to "ethnic" Turks, like Azalea misspisi ice and some other nonmembers of TA

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Says the curly haired e1b1b peasant with 10% yamnaya (original IE) ancestry LOL. Do not derail the thread.
http://i.hizliresim.com/8gnL8n.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/8gnL8n)
http://i.hizliresim.com/n7PNLV.png

so Greeks of today are basically what early Neolithics looked like?

[Sikeliot]

so Greeks of today are basically what early Neolithics looked like?

No, he cherrypicks the darkest examples he can find.

If you want to see better Greek photos go here: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?167885-Rank-these-Greeks-from-best-fit-to-worst!

Or this: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?167083-HIpster-photos-from-teh-hood

[adsız]

So, Dienekos is proved to be wrong.

Congrats Gültekin.

:)

[Jana]

Definite proof of original Turkic genes in Turks. Is your result typical though ? You score significant Asiatic admixture.

One Turkish member told me Central Anatolia is region with high frequency of Turanid phenotypes, does it correlates with their autosomal scores ? One more question, are you Azeri or Anatolian Turk?

Congrats :)

[Azalea]

Definite proof of original Turkic genes in Turks. Is your result typical though ? You score significant Asiatic admixture.

One Turkish member told me Central Anatolia is region with high frequency of Turanid phenotypes, does it correlates with their autosomal scores ? One more question, are you Azeri or Anatolian Turk?

Congrats :)

His results are very typical for his part of Turkey. & I have no idea where this 'Central Anatolia' is the most CA affected region thing started (I've heard this many times before), but from genetic results we can say that Western Turkey, Northwestern Turkey and the Southern Mediterranean part of Turkey is one of the most CA affected regions of Turkey. Or better said Oghuz/Selcuk affected regions. Central Anatolia (excluding the most Western parts) is rather average or lower than average if anything. The general rule is the more Eastern you go, the less CA affected the Turks are.

He is an Anatolian Turk from Northwestern Turkey (Bolu).

[Danishmend]

Definite proof of original Turkic genes in Turks. Is your result typical though ? You score significant Asiatic admixture.

One Turkish member told me Central Anatolia is region with high frequency of Turanid phenotypes, does it correlates with their autosomal scores ? One more question, are you Azeri or Anatolian Turk?

Congrats :)

Contrary to popular belief, Western Anatolia is a bit more Central Asian influenced than Central Anatolia. Turkish_Aydin and Turkish _Balıkesir (West Anatolia) samples have more CA admix than Cappadocian and Turkish_Kayseri (Central Anatolia) samples for example. The difference is not that big though. Nothing unusual in his results judging by other Turkish results we've seen so far.

He is Anatolian Turk by the way.

[Pennywise]

Definite proof of original Turkic genes in Turks. Is your result typical though ? You score significant Asiatic admixture.

One Turkish member told me Central Anatolia is region with high frequency of Turanid phenotypes, does it correlates with their autosomal scores ? One more question, are you Azeri or Anatolian Turk?

Congrats :)

Genetic features doesn't affect phenotypical structure actually. I mean there is no direct correlation with genetics and physical looking. On the other hand, Some maps I saw confirm your thoughts about Central Anatolia but I don't think there are exact differences from other parts of Anatolia. (Except East and South East regions)

[Azalea]

Genetic features doesn't affect phenotypical structure actually. I mean there is no direct correlation with genetics and physical looking. On the other hand, Some maps I saw confirm your thoughts about Central Anatolia but I don't think there are exact differences from other parts of Anatolia. (Except East and South East regions)

Actually, there is. Not on a individual base but on a group/region base there is a correlation between phenotype and ancestry. I predicted the Aydin region to be one of the most CA affected regions in Turkey far before we had any Aydin samples or any other native Western Turkish samples for that matter. My comments are still up at ABF. They are from 2010. :D

[Jana]

Thanks guys for information!

[Pennywise]

Actually, there is. Not on individual base but on a group/region base there is a correlation between phenotype and ancestry. I had predicted the Aydin region to be one of the most CA affected regions in Turkey far before we had any Aydin or any other native Western Turkish samples for that matter. My comments are still up at ABF. They are from 2010. :D

Yeah, therefore I said "Not directly", of course ancestery and genetics have some role on pyhsical structure but not as a fact. Physical looking can be deceptive. :)

[Böri]

Oghuz strong. You are Seljuk descendant. From blood of Turul Bey, Alp Arslan, Kilij Arslan, Danishmend Ghazi and also Osman Ghazi. Germiyan-Candar-Ottoman Turks influential in Bolu area in beyliks times.

[TheMagnificent]

Definite proof of original Turkic genes in Turks. Is your result typical though ? You score significant Asiatic admixture.

One Turkish member told me Central Anatolia is region with high frequency of Turanid phenotypes, does it correlates with their autosomal scores ? One more question, are you Azeri or Anatolian Turk?

Congrats :)

Yep, I'm from northwestern Turkey (Central Anatolia) as well, and my results are very much like those of gültekin.

[Ice]

@Gültekin

How many matches do you have on FF(myorigins)?

[Tonuquq]

There is nothing to be surprised about the results. The Turk presence in Anatolia did not begin in 1071. Turks always existed in Asia Minor under different names and already expanded to Europe such as Huns and Avars. There were Turkic tribes present in Southern Europe in 1st c. AD. (Sea of Azov). Proto-Turk culture spreaded all the way from Kazakhistan, Russia to Anatolia. In terms of historical continuation, there is a perfect cultural and geographical unity in Turk history. All of that 'Turkified Anatolian' urban legends has nothing to do with the historical reality. If a Greek looks like a Turk, it is probably because he/she has Turk blood, that is why. Modern Grk. identity was built on Orthodoxy and it was much easier for the newly founded Grk. state to assimilate Slavs, Albanians and Turks such as Karamanlides under the roof of Orthodoxy and Grk. language. Like Engels said, Greek as an ethnicity remained in the past and an ethnic Grk. nation does not exist anymore today. Not to mention Eurasian Avars already entered Greece in 5th-6th century, long before Ottomans. But you are still free to dream on about being the 'direct' descendants of Aristotales and Plato Lmao.

. It should be stressed, however, that the Greeks as an ethnic community during 1840's, included many Grecophone-Hellenized Vlachs, Serbs and Orthodox Albanians.
Edited by Dimitris Tziovas, Greece and The Balkans Identities, Perceptions and Cultural Encounters Since The Enlightenment

. The Albanians of Hydra and Spatsae, many of whom could not even speak Greek, regarded themselves as Greek because their allegiance was with the Orthodox Church.
William St. Clair, That Greece Might Still be Free

Ayrıca benim bildiğim kadarıyla Dienekes Türk düşmanı, taraflı i*ne'nin biri.

[gültekin]

Oghuz strong. You are Seljuk descendant. From blood of Turul Bey, Alp Arslan, Kilij Arslan, Danishmend Ghazi and also Osman Ghazi. Germiyan-Candar-Ottoman Turks influential in Bolu area in beyliks times.
:) maybe not Seljuk but i agree with the rest, my most distant ancestor Karapaşa and his family from Bayındır clan came in 1281 (http://s21.postimg.org/ivb2ag6fb/10042015975.jpg)

[gültekin]

i think, i'm the living proof of connection between Anglojew and Turkic Khazars xD
my J (jew) test
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC4.02%
EAST_EURO5.60%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO11.61%
ATLANTIC4.47%
WEST_MED5.29%
ASHKENAZI4.08%
EAST_MED26.73%
WEST_ASIAN19.25%
MIDDLE_EASTERN4.21%
SOUTH_ASIAN3.92%
EAST_AFRICAN-
EAST_ASIAN4.21%
SIBERIAN6.61%
WEST_AFRICAN-
i think this ashkenazi should also count as asiatic - Khazar

[StonyArabia]

Congrats bro, nice results.

[Mortimer]

congrats on your results

[Mortimer]

my J (jew) test
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC4.02%
EAST_EURO5.60%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO11.61%
ATLANTIC4.47%
WEST_MED5.29%
ASHKENAZI4.08%
EAST_MED26.73%
WEST_ASIAN19.25%
MIDDLE_EASTERN4.21%
SOUTH_ASIAN3.92%
EAST_AFRICAN-
EAST_ASIAN4.21%
SIBERIAN6.61%
WEST_AFRICAN-
i think this ashkenazi should also count as astiatic - Khazar

dont worry everyone shows that amount of ashkenazi 3-5% real ashkenazis show 30% or like that if you are less then 10% on that test you are likely no ashkenazi i have 3.89% ashkenazi and im 0.8% ashkenazi on 23andme that was enough for them to label me part jewish lol

[gültekin]

dont worry everyone shows that amount of ashkenazi 3-5% real ashkenazis show 30% or like that if you are less then 10% on that test you are likely no ashkenazi i have 3.89% ashkenazi and im 0.8% ashkenazi on 23andme that was enough for them to label me part jewish lol
i'm not worry about that,
im gegenteil, ich denke dass es mit Khazars zu tun hat , denn ich habe eine menge caucasian admixture, welche mann es deutlich sehen kann

[gültekin]

MDLP K=12 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 30.27
2 Paleo_Mediterranean 23.96
3 Altaic_Turkic 14.36
4 Celto_Germanic 7.93
5 East_European 5.78
6 South_Central_Asian 5.37
7 Iberian 3.63
8 Uralic_Permic 3.42
9 Paleo_North_European 2.05
10 Paleo_Balkanic 1.42
11 Balto_Finnic 1.16
12 Volga_Uralic 0.65

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 TRK (Turk) 19.44
2 ASHK (Ashkenazi) 23.46
3 CITAL (Central-Italian) 23.65
4 NOG (Nogai) 23.89
5 GRK (Greek) 24.06
6 SIC (Sicilian) 25.54
7 RMN (Romanian) 27
8 GGZ (Gagauz) 27.53
9 BLG (Bulgarian) 27.56
10 NITAL (North-Italian) 27.98
11 CPR (Cypriot) 30.18
12 MCD (Macedonian) 31.09
13 CRS (Corsican) 33.14
14 ARM (Armenian) 33.14
15 MNT (Montenegrin) 33.28
16 SRB (Serbian) 34.89
17 TTR (Tatar) 35.19
18 BSN (Bosnian) 36.78
19 PRT (Portuguese) 36.78
20 HNG (Hungarian) 38.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.3% CITAL (Central-Italian) + 49.7% NOG (Nogai) @ 5.72
2 51.8% NOG (Nogai) + 48.2% SIC (Sicilian) @ 6.28
3 50.5% ASHK (Ashkenazi) + 49.5% NOG (Nogai) @ 6.95
4 58.7% NOG (Nogai) + 41.3% CRS (Corsican) @ 7.34
5 54.3% NOG (Nogai) + 45.7% NITAL (North-Italian) @ 7.65
6 50.2% NOG (Nogai) + 49.8% GRK (Greek) @ 8.23
7 71.1% NOG (Nogai) + 28.9% SRD (Sardnian) @ 8.73
8 64.9% CITAL (Central-Italian) + 35.1% UZ (Uzbek) @ 9.65
9 64.7% GRK (Greek) + 35.3% UZ (Uzbek) @ 10.34
10 65.5% ASHK (Ashkenazi) + 34.5% UZ (Uzbek) @ 10.56
11 63.2% SIC (Sicilian) + 36.8% UZ (Uzbek) @ 11.02
12 61.5% CPR (Cypriot) + 38.5% BSHK (Bashkir) @ 11.29
13 67.9% TRK (Turk) + 32.1% TTR (Tatar) @ 11.37
14 74.1% TRK (Turk) + 25.9% BSHK (Bashkir) @ 11.54
15 71.5% TRK (Turk) + 28.5% GER (German) @ 11.94
16 57.3% NOG (Nogai) + 42.7% CPR (Cypriot) @ 12
17 71.4% TRK (Turk) + 28.6% FRN (French) @ 12.11
18 69.6% TRK (Turk) + 30.4% PRT (Portuguese) @ 12.16
19 62.9% NOG (Nogai) + 37.1% PRT (Portuguese) @ 12.33
20 62.2% TRK (Turk) + 37.8% BLG (Bulgarian) @ 12.44

[Iloko]

Was this a raw data transfer or did you do the cheek swab kit for FTDNA?

[gültekin]

Was this a raw data transfer or did you do the cheek swab kit for FTDNA?
yes, with kit of FTDNA :
Ordered 01/20/2015
Sent 01/21/2015
Received by Lab 03/05/2015
usps sucks also :picard1:
https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=RR152858565TR

[Böri]

The result of Turks also proves the Iranians claim for Scythian and Sarmatians wrong. The more a Turk scores Central and Eastern Asian, the more he scores Northern European. This north European thing cant happen in Anatolia or Balkan for this reason (parallel rise in Siberian, East Asian). This means Scythians were non-Iranian IndoEurope or Uralic or other more like Northern Europeans, exact same like Toharians. The Finnish thing is old Uralic Ugric effect.

[Pahli]

The result of Turks also proves the Iranians claim for Scythian and Sarmatians wrong. The more a Turk scores Central and Eastern Asian, the more he scores Northern European. This north European thing cant happen in Anatolia or Balkan for this reason (parallel rise in Siberian, East Asian). This means Scythians were non-Iranian IndoEurope or Uralic or other more like Northern Europeans, exact same like Toharians. The Finnish thing is old Uralic Ugric effect.

You again :picard1:

I don't even ... this inferior complex again: "MUH PEPOL R HELF SCYTHIEN, DEY R NO IRANIENS AND IRANIENS R SUBHUMENZ BECUZ GULTEKINZ DNA RESULTS PROVES IT ALL"

So a teenageboy is trying to prove scientists wrong, wonder how far you will go on with that xD
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Anyways, congrats on your results :thumbs up

[gültekin]

You again :picard1:

I don't even ... this inferior complex again: "MUH PEPOL R HELF SCYTHIEN, DEY R NO IRANIENS AND IRANIENS R SUBHUMENZ BECUZ GULTEKINZ DNA RESULTS PROVES IT ALL"

So a teenageboy is trying to prove scientists wrong, wonder how far you will go on with that xD
__________________________________________________ ______________________________

Anyways, congrats on your results :thumbs up
MUH İROONON DOSCONTONT SKUTİONSS MUH ARYAN AVROPİYAN KURDOS ORYON MUHHH
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?165103-The-non-Aryan-origin-of-quot-Iranians-quot SHİEEET xD
.......
thanks and regards :thumb001:

[GulGulGul]

Congratulations my Monkey-boy! :party-smiley-007: So you're a Half-Sand Nigger (MENA) Half-Ice Nigger (TURK)? :bounce: Now chimpout bitch! :clap:

[gültekin]

Congratulations my Monkey-boy! :party-smiley-007: So you're a Half-Sand Nigger (MENA) Half-Ice Nigger (TURK)? :bounce: Now chimpout bitch! :clap:
ice nigga? lol xD

[Scholarios]

etruscians maybe, or one of you lost a chick to my grand pa :D
did you get something like that also 82.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 17.1% Aleut @ 3.51

Well, it's more like both your grandpa and grandma given those percentages. Either that or your mom is at Least half Greek or Sicilian.

[gültekin]

Well, it's more like both your grandpa and grandma given those percentages. Either that or your mom is at Least half Greek or Sicilian.
My great grandmother was a Bithynian princess you peasant Yunanlı , kneel down

[Kabul]

lol butthurt countryless faggot Zoran cries about his PEEPOL being slaughtered by THUH BIG BAD TURKS xD

[Kabul]

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ceoj61.png

[Pahli]

Comes from a gypsy like you :)

[Kabul]

Comes from a gypsy like you :)

Actually, Gypsies are Indo-Iranian, if anything, you should be advocating the rights of YOUR IRANIC PEEPOL the gypsies against us evil Bulgarians who oppress them :laugh:

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ceoj61.png

Cry me a river, cocksucker xD

[Pahli]

Actually, Gypsies are Indo-Iranian, if anything, you should be advocating the rights of YOUR IRANIC PEEPOL the gypsies against us evil Bulgarians who oppress them :laugh:

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ceoj61.png

Cry me a river, cocksucker xD

You aren't Bulgarian, you're some kinda Turkish gypsy with fake Bulgarian identity xD

[Kabul]

You aren't Bulgarian, you're some kinda Turkish gypsy with fake Bulgarian identity xD

Your attempt at character assassination sucks ass, sort of like how you do, oldest trick in the book, "YOUR OPINION ISN'T WHATEVER STEREOTYPE I WANTED IT TO BE SO THEREFORE YOU MUST NOT BE WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE"

MUH AYNSHENT IRANIC RUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! EVERYTIN BEEZ IRANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on, Aryan Gypsy, defend your Aryan Gypsy brothers, you and them are of the same flesh and blood xD

Hey lowlife garbage, at least get your own country before suggesting at other people's inferiority xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones, or in your case, you don't even have a home you countryless loser :laugh:

The real inferior people are those who are so weak that they can't even achieve statehood LOL Too bad Saddam didn't gas your gypsy ass, it would have been hilarious and no one who isn't retarded would have missed you. Instead, you have to go on anthro-forums to bitch about the BIG BAD TURKS and talk about how "civilized" your donkey raping kin are. Get rekt, fag.

[Highlands]

Gültekin could you post your Eurogenes K13 results? (I understand that one more).

[Kabul]

You aren't Bulgarian, you're some kinda Turkish gypsy with fake Bulgarian identity xD

Hey Zoran, I found pics of your family from Iraq
http://i62.tinypic.com/jfkv7t.jpg

[Pahli]

Your attempt at character assassination sucks ass, sort of like how you do, oldest trick in the book, "YOUR OPINION ISN'T WHATEVER STEREOTYPE I WANTED IT TO BE SO THEREFORE YOU MUST NOT BE WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE"

MUH AYNSHENT IRANIC RUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! EVERYTIN BEEZ IRANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on, Aryan Gypsy, defend your Aryan Gypsy brothers, you and them are of the same flesh and blood xD

Hey lowlife garbage, at least get your own country before suggesting at other people's inferiority xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones, or in your case, you don't even have a home you countryless loser :laugh:

The real inferior people are those who are so weak that they can't even achieve statehood LOL Too bad Saddam didn't gas your gypsy ass, it would have been hilarious and no one who isn't retarded would have missed you. Instead, you have to go on anthro-forums to bitch about the BIG BAD TURKS and talk about how "civilized" your donkey raping kin are. Get rekt, fag.

I don't need to cum to the idea of PAN-IRANIST STATE or PAN-TURDANIST STATE, some fake ass bulgar is coming to tell me all this irrelevant shit and repeat it all over again, like some kind of autist you are xD

Have fun with your Turkish friends at the gay harem :)

[Kabul]

I don't need to cum to the idea of PAN-IRANIST STATE, some fake ass bulgar is coming to tell me all this irrelevant shit and repeat it all over again, like some kind of autist you are xD

Have fun with your Turkish friends at the gay harem :)

Zoran bro, I see you took some great pictures of your family in Iraqi Kurdistan :thumb001:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2uyg1hf.jpg

[Pahli]

Zoran bro, I see you took some great pictures of your family in Iraq :thumb001:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2uyg1hf.jpg

I'm not falling down to your level of autism and trolling, good luck with that :)

[Kabul]

I'm not falling down to your level of autism and trolling, good luck with that :)

:(

Your family fell 6 feet under to the level of a grave after Saddam was finished with them :thumbs up

[Tonuquq]

A person can not be 'half Grk.' because it is not an ethnic identity.

. In his article called "The Nationalities in Turkey", Engels stated that the Greek nation which has been desired to be formed in European Turkey does not ethnically exist, "Greekness" as a historical concept remained in the past and Greekness is not present in Morea, European Turkey. Engels wrote, the concept of Greekness is not an ethnic one, the population that live in Morea are ethnically Slav and as a result of the "Hellenization" of this young Slav ethnos, Greek nation was created.

. Anatolian Greek identity is a concept based on religion. It is not directly a nation. Greeks managed to come together because of the Orthodox Church. There is not a Greek identity in terms of a nation in Anatolia. Lets not forget that the Orthodox Church united different ethnic groups.
Sir William Mitchell Ramsay

. The obsession with Greek racial identity involves the distortion of the history of the thousands of years when there was no such thing as a Greek nation state.
Simon McIllwaine

[Scholarios]

A person can not be 'half Grk.' because it is not an ethnic identity.

. In his article called "The Nationalities in Turkey", Engels stated that the Greek nation which has been desired to be formed in European Turkey does not ethnically exist, "Greekness" as a historical concept remained in the past and Greekness is not present in Morea, European Turkey. Engels wrote, the concept of Greekness is not an ethnic one, the population that live in Morea are ethnically Slav and as a result of the "Hellenization" of this young Slav ethnos, Greek nation was created.

. Anatolian Greek identity is a concept based on religion. It is not directly a nation. Greeks managed to come together because of the Orthodox Church. There is not a Greek identity in terms of a nation in Anatolia. Lets not forget that the Orthodox Church united different ethnic groups.
Sir William Mitchell Ramsay

. The obsession with Greek racial identity involves the distortion of the history of the thousands of years when there was no such thing as a Greek nation state.
Simon McIllwaine

Ok- you can call it whatever your tour guides call it to deceive western visitors" Roman" or " native Anatolian" :rolleyes:

[Charles Bronson]

Congratulation.

[Not a Cop]

Your result have very big distance for a "pure" Turk, for example in K7B your distance is 12. Here is example of mixed person (me):
1 Mixed_Slav @ 3.442545
2 Russian_B @ 4.258845
3 Russian @ 4.476658

9 Dutch @ 8.423537
10 Argyll @ 8.699410
11 German @ 9.049706
12 CEU30 @ 9.760664
13 Mixed_Germanic @ 9.966411
14 Irish @ 9.977595

Dutch + Russian + Russian + Russian_B @ 0.644506

So as you can see being only about 1\4 German, i'm still closer to Dutch people than you to turks.

So i assume you have some other ancesty besides turkish, do you?

[Longbowman]

Your result have very big distance for a "pure" Turk, for example in K7B your distance is 12. Here is example of mixed person (me):
1 Mixed_Slav @ 3.442545
2 Russian_B @ 4.258845
3 Russian @ 4.476658

9 Dutch @ 8.423537
10 Argyll @ 8.699410
11 German @ 9.049706
12 CEU30 @ 9.760664
13 Mixed_Germanic @ 9.966411
14 Irish @ 9.977595

Dutch + Russian + Russian + Russian_B @ 0.644506

So as you can see being only about 1\4 German, i'm still closer to Dutch people than you to turks.

So i assume you have some other ancesty besides turkish, do you?

I'm mixed and I get a VERY close population distance on K7b!

1 Adygei + Morocco_Jews + Sardinian + Sicilian @ 0.000000

I was just saying to Grandpa Abatiy, Abuela Dahiyah, Nonno Antonio and Nonna Katarina that the Dodecad project is basically perfect.

[Böri]

Ok- you can call it whatever your tour guides call it to deceive western visitors" Roman" or " native Anatolian" :rolleyes:

Real Greeks are Balkan Hellenes genetically clustering with Albanian people. Even Balkan Turks dont have any affinities with Greeks and Albanians. The native element in Turks isnt thus Greek.

[Tonuquq]

Real Greeks are Balkan Hellenes genetically clustering with Albanian people. Even Balkan Turks dont have any affinities with Greeks and Albanians. The native element in Turks isnt thus Greek.

Nobody has any affinity with Grk., it is the opposite.

. I have already said, and I will repeat it, that not one-fifth of the present population, can with justice be called Greeks. The remainder are Slavonians, Albanians and Turks, with a slight infusion of Venetian blood.
Bayard Tailor, Travels in Greece and Russia

Modern Grk. identity is not an ethnic one. It is a religious identity, built on myths. Modern Grk. is nothing but Hellenic imposter Orthodox.

. And George Finlay adds that the lineal descendants of the Spartans did not survive Roman conquest. Soon, the best known Greeks became extinct.
C. Kegan Paul, Greece - The Spoilt Child of Europe, Edited by James Knowles

. Most Greeks did not share Byron’s views and would not have understood his allusions. They did not think of themselves as Greeks at all, and certainly not as Hellenes but as Christian-Orthodox.
N. Hammond, Greece - Old and New

[Bulut]

Similar results to mine, awesome :thumb001:

http://s29.postimg.org/lgdmakwx3/results.png

[Scholarios]

Real Greeks are Balkan Hellenes genetically clustering with Albanian people. Even Balkan Turks dont have any affinities with Greeks and Albanians. The native element in Turks isnt thus Greek.

Well, that's opening up Sikeliot's can of worms. But those categories used in K13 are associated with Greeks of the Aegean Archipelago, but also show affinities with mainland Greeks ( especially Thessaly, Central Greece, and Peloponnese). We can spin this in multiple ways. And if Turks can say that both Central Asian and supposed " Native Anatolian" are both " Turkish" then Greeks should be able to say that both Balkan and Aegean samples are " native Greeks". The rest is just hair splitting. If you are from Northwest Anatolia and get these kinds of results you have Greek-speaking ancestors in the past 500 years. As I said, I'm a "real "Greek with half my ancestry from mainland and I get similar categories.

But as far as identity issues, you can be whatever you want. Just like a Greek who clusters with Ghegs can be a son of Leonidas, that is, one can be a " Mongol" even if in reality they are a " mongrel"...

[Böri]

Native Anatolians spoke Greek at some point of history but they were assimilated people. The cradle of Greek race and civilization are South part of Balkans. Heavy Albanian influence in Greeks also.
Based on result of Turks and the parallel between Mongoloid and North European, we can conclude that Oghuzes who came to Anatolia 1000 years ago were circa 30% Mongoloid, 40~50% North-West European and 20~30% Western Asian genetically. And native Anatolians were majority Western Asians. So the point, Turks became more Caucasian and also more dark in last 1000 years.

[Mortimer]

congrats once again on your results you are a strong türk

[Goujian]

Awesome results, congrats! :thumb001:

[Tonuquq]

Native Anatolians spoke Greek at some point of history but they were assimilated people. The cradle of Greek race and civilization are South part of Balkans. Heavy Albanian influence in Greeks also.
Based on result of Turks and the parallel between Mongoloid and North European, we can conclude that Oghuzes who came to Anatolia 1000 years ago were circa 30% Mongoloid, 40~50% North-West European and 20~30% Western Asian genetically. And native Anatolians were majority Western Asians. So the point, Turks became more Caucasian and also more dark in last 1000 years.

There is no such 'race' called Grk. Modern Grk. has nothing to do with Hellenes except a minor linguistic connection and inhabiting the land where Aristotales and Plato once lived. Grk. 'civilization' is also highly exaggerated by the 19th-20th century Aryanist, euro-centrist, western historiography.

. Because of their rigidly centralized education system, there is a high degree of uniformity in Greeks views of their identity. As Anna Frangoudaki and Thaleia Dragona point out in their edited volume, 'What is Our Homeland?', for more than a century, Greek school books, have stressed the unbroken continuity and diachronic homogenity of Greek civilization and culture and with the result that Greeks tend to believe without question in this construction of romantic nationalist historiography. According to this ideology, what is labelled with the timeless and semantically vague abstract term, 'Hellenism' together with its language, is a healthy organism that for 4.000 years has either resisted or assimilated foreign influences. Alteration is viewed as adulteration, while outside influences are generally viewed as threats.
Katerina Zacharia - Hellenisms, Culture, Identity and Ethnicity, From Antiquity to Modernity

. There is no continuity from ancient to modern Greeks. Modern Greek identity is a fradulent one, built on myths.
Thaleia Dragona

[Tonuquq]

It is historically non-sense to explain an Asia Minor score in a genetic test especially with 'assimilation of locals' since Turks never followed such policy, and second, Turk presence in Asia Minor did not start with 1071. The majority of Abbasid military was formed by Turk soldiers when they defeated Umayyad, which means Turks were already present in today's northern Iraq in 7th-8th centuries. Abbasid founded the city of Samarra just to inhabit Turk soldiers and their families. The siege of Constantinople by Avars, 200.000 mercenary soldiers of Pecheneg and Oghuz origin in the army of Diogenes and Alan, Hun raids to Anatolia took place long before 1071. Roman emperor Aleksi Kommenos settled Bulgar, Khazar, Avar, Pecheneg, Kuman and Oghuz tribes to Mugla, Manisa, Tarsus, Misis, Antakya, Adana and Cilicia regions. Besides that, Turkic tribes under the names of 'Turkae-Tyrkae' were present in southern Europe in 1st c A.D. There is no need to be surprised about a Turk having 'Asia Minor' ancestry because Turks were always present in a large geography through history.

[Casandrinos]

You're more than half raped Greeks or Hellenized Anatolians, durks are the proof that Greek continuity is striking as you have our DNA in your raped genome and get matches from Greece.


Apply yogurt in the asshurt

[Danishmend]

It is historically non-sense to explain an Asia Minor score in a genetic test especially with 'assimilation of locals' since Turks never followed such policy, and second, Turk presence in Asia Minor did not start with 1071. The majority of Abbasid military was formed by Turk soldiers when they defeated Umayyad, which means Turks were already present in today's northern Iraq in 7th-8th centuries. Abbasid founded the city of Samarra just to inhabit Turk soldiers and their families. The siege of Constantinople by Avars, 200.000 mercenary soldiers of Pecheneg and Oghuz origin in the army of Diogenes and Alan, Hun raids to Anatolia took place long before 1071. Roman emperor Aleksi Kommenos settled Bulgar, Khazar, Avar, Pecheneg, Kuman and Oghuz tribes to Mugla, Manisa, Tarsus, Misis, Antakya, Adana and Cilicia regions. Besides that, Turkic tribes under the names of 'Turkae-Tyrkae' were present in southern Europe in 1st c A.D. There is no need to be surprised about a Turk having 'Asia Minor' ancestry because Turks were always present in a large geography through history.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill by saying pre-Seljuk Anatolia was already Turkic, it was not. There were some Turkic mercenaries (Cuman, Pecheneg, Uz) hired by Eastern Roman Empire but that's all. Pre-Manzikert Anatolia was mainly populated by Greek-speaking Roman citizens or "Rums" as we used to call them.

"Asia Minor" in MyOrigins = Neolithic + ANE

Most West Asians, North Caucasians, South Europeans and Central Asians score "Asia Minor" in varying degrees.

Don't take what MyOrigins results say literally, Gültekin doesn't have recent West European, East Asian etc. ancestry for example, the reference samples they have used to represent "Asia Minor" are far from representing modern Anatolia. That is why Anatolian Turks score extra European, South Central Asian, East Asian etc.

[Tonuquq]

You're making a mountain out of a molehill by saying Anatolia was already Turkic before the 11th century, it was not. There were some Turkic mercenaries hired by Eastern Roman Empire but that's all. Pre-Manzikert Anatolia was mainly populated by Greek-speaking Roman citizens or "Rums" as we called them.

"Asia Minor" in MyOrigins = Neolithic + ANE

Don't take what MyOrigins results say literally, Gültekin doesn't have Western European ancestry for example, the reference samples they have used to represent "Asia Minor" are far from representing modern Anatolia. That is why Anatolian Turks score extra European, South Central Asian, East Asian etc.

I did not say Anatolia was 'fully' Turkic. I just said Turks were present in the region much longer before 1071. Also, before Turk conquest, Anatolia suffered major population decline and destruction due to 300 years of Arab-Roman conflict and wars. That's why Oghuz armies did not face any resistance in some cities. Grk. or Arm. were never demographically dominant in any period of history in Anatolia. Rum did not mean Greek. It was the definition, used for the citizens of E. Roman Empire.

[Böri]

The conclusion from genetics tests to Turks matter here. Native Anatolians were mostly Hellenized Western Asians, not like Hindu shift Armenians or Kurds, and not like Balkan Mediterraneans like Greeks and most Albanians. We Turks came with minor West Asian influence and were 1/3 Mongoloid and roughly 40~50% North European like gene (Scyth-Sarmat). This is conclusion we can draw from gene tests to Turks.

[Tonuquq]

Here is the proof of 'Greek continuity and DNA'.

The proof that Greece is neither 'homogeneous' nor has continuity from the ancient past is not difficult to explain. Just take a look at Greece’s population makeup from 1829 to 1928 and in it you will find Albanians, Vlahs, Turks, Macedonians and Roma.

1829 - Greece created for the first time, 'mostly Arvanites', Less then 1.000.000
1830-1911, Epirus and Thessaly Annexed, 'Vlahs and Albanians', 1.600.000
1912–1913 51% of ethnographic Macedonia Annexed, 'Macedonians', 2.500.000
1920–1928 Importation of Christian Turks from Asia Minor, 'Turks', 1.100.000

In 1928, Greece registered 6.200.000 people after which it declared itself homogenous consisting of 100% pure Greeks with a very small Muslim but ethnically Greek population. In the 1920’s Greece imported 1.1 million Christian Turks from Asia Minor, claiming that they were descendants of the 'Ancient Greeks'. At the time, not one of them spoke Greek or identified with the Greeks. How could they have? A 'Greek Nation' never existed before 1829.

LMAO.

[Bulut]

Admix Results (sorted):

I'm going to post only Mdlp k23b results.


Admix Results (sorted):

Population
Amerindian 0.16%
Ancestral_Altaic 2.48%
South_Central_Asian 14.29%
Arctic 1.38%
South_Indian 1.07%
Australoid 0.66%
Austronesian -
Caucasian 36.36%
Archaic_Human -
East_African 0.63%
East_Siberian 2.72%
European_Early_Farmers 11.53%
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 0.26%
Archaic_African 1.06%
Near_East 8.98%
North_African 0.96%
Paleo_Siberian 1.89%
African_Pygmy 0.18%
South_East_Asian 1.90%
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic 3.50%
European_Hunters_Gatherers 10.00%


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Aydin @ 5.002108
2 Turk_Balikesir @ 6.713598
3 Turk_Istanbul @ 6.793200
4 Turk @ 7.329130
5 Turk_Adana @ 9.655854
6 Turk_Kayseri @ 9.984498
7 Azov_Greek @ 11.072625
8 Georgian_Jew @ 12.691505
9 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12.793129
10 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13.972654
11 Cretan @ 14.108492
12 Azeri @ 14.575354
13 Kurd_North @ 14.647933
14 Cirkassian @ 14.852745
15 Uzbek_Tashkent @ 15.036784
16 Greek_Smyrna @ 15.177227
17 Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 15.479873
18 Syrian_Jew @ 15.759640
19 Kurd_South @ 16.151497
20 Assyrian_Iraqi @ 16.176567

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_Aydin +50% Turk_Aydin @ 5.002108

I score some Archaic_African, no idea what that is though.

[gültekin]

Admix Results (sorted):

I'm going to post only Mdlp k23b results.


Admix Results (sorted):

Population
Amerindian 0.16%
Ancestral_Altaic 2.48%
South_Central_Asian 14.29%
Arctic 1.38%
South_Indian 1.07%
Australoid 0.66%
Austronesian -
Caucasian 36.36%
Archaic_Human -
East_African 0.63%
East_Siberian 2.72%
European_Early_Farmers 11.53%
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 0.26%
Archaic_African 1.06%
Near_East 8.98%
North_African 0.96%
Paleo_Siberian 1.89%
African_Pygmy 0.18%
South_East_Asian 1.90%
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic 3.50%
European_Hunters_Gatherers 10.00%


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Aydin @ 5.002108
2 Turk_Balikesir @ 6.713598
3 Turk_Istanbul @ 6.793200
4 Turk @ 7.329130
5 Turk_Adana @ 9.655854
6 Turk_Kayseri @ 9.984498
7 Azov_Greek @ 11.072625
8 Georgian_Jew @ 12.691505
9 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12.793129
10 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13.972654
11 Cretan @ 14.108492
12 Azeri @ 14.575354
13 Kurd_North @ 14.647933
14 Cirkassian @ 14.852745
15 Uzbek_Tashkent @ 15.036784
16 Greek_Smyrna @ 15.177227
17 Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 15.479873
18 Syrian_Jew @ 15.759640
19 Kurd_South @ 16.151497
20 Assyrian_Iraqi @ 16.176567

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_Aydin +50% Turk_Aydin @ 5.002108

I score some Archaic_African, no idea what that is though.
:thumb001: awesome results Bulut Khatun :)
http://www.bilinmeyenturktarihi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Dil%C5%9Fad-Hatun-Ipar-Han%C4%B1m.jpg

[adsız]

Bulut, from ?

[Bulut]

Ank., Samsun, Çankırı.

[Artek]

nope FTDNA myOrigins aka Autosomal. Y-dna has been delayed to (batch 614) 06/10/2015 - 06/24/2015. ftdna sucks....
I'm testing 2 Y-DNAs of my ancestral lines, one is batch 613 and one is 614. FTDNA delayed all average testing times due to the jam caused by one of their manufacturers. This one was responsible of Y-12 panels, so that's a really serious case - imagine any y-str based test without first 12 markers.

However, they hired additional staff and bought new machines. So, after they manage to clear the jam, testing should go faster. We have chosen a bad period for doing this :)

[Demhat]

Another Balkan/Russian dönme. Father probably Russian or Balkanian and mother Türkic.

[gültekin]

I'm testing 2 Y-DNAs of my ancestral lines, one is batch 613 and one is 614. FTDNA delayed all average testing times due to the jam caused by one of their manufacturers. This one was responsible of Y-12 panels, so that's a really serious case - imagine any y-str based test without first 12 markers.

However, they hired additional staff and bought new machines. So, after they manage to clear the jam, testing should go faster. We have chosen a bad period for doing this :)
finally some good news :) my FF was also in batch 613, first i got a notice about a delay to 22.April, then suddenly they give me the results, i'm still waiting for match...

[gültekin]

so im two pages in and exactly what is wrong with having curly hair u jealous mothafuckas

anyway gz gult
do not take it offensive i like chocolate, my favor stuff :)
your welcome dude :)

[Gaston]

What about playing a game about speculating on your y-dna haplogroup?



my J (jew) test
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC4.02%
EAST_EURO5.60%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO11.61%
ATLANTIC4.47%
WEST_MED5.29%
ASHKENAZI4.08%
EAST_MED26.73%
WEST_ASIAN19.25%
MIDDLE_EASTERN4.21%
SOUTH_ASIAN3.92%
EAST_AFRICAN-
EAST_ASIAN4.21%
SIBERIAN6.61%
WEST_AFRICAN-


The highest Ashkenazi score among non-Jews (double of what you get) are from Sicilians and Berbers. So it's most likely additional mediterranean affinity.

[gültekin]

MDLP K14 Ancestral North Indian result. (thanks to Dr_McNinja )

This is a work in progress by Vadim. Just thought I'd bring some attention to the kind of results it's putting out so far.
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?4398-MDLP-K14-Ancestral-North-Indian

0.48% ANE
16.62% ANI
0.43% ASI
31.39% Caucasian
15.25% Mesolithic
13.23% Neolithic
5.32% East-Asian
0.00% Subsaharian
10.74% Near-East
0.00% Pygmy
0.12% Amerindian
0.00% Papuan
0.32% Siberian
6.11% Altaic

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish_Balikesir @ 8.909524
2 Turkish_Aydin @ 9.885015
3 Turkish @ 10.315899
4 Turkish_Istanbul @ 10.483025
5 Turks @ 11.064275
6 Crimean_Tatar @ 13.013133
7 Azov_Greek @ 14.284151
8 Nogai @ 15.744845
9 Uzbekistan_Jew @ 16.027749
10 Turkish_Adana @ 16.05665
11 Kabardin @ 16.149365
12 Azeri @ 17.002511
13 Stalskoe @ 18.177219
14 Cirkassian @ 18.474028
15 Turkish_Kayseri @ 18.654416
16 Uzbek_WGA @ 19.219003
17 Romanian_Jews @ 19.300598
18 Cretan @ 20.034525
19 Greek_WGA @ 20.131649
20 Azeri_Dagestan @ 20.602593
303 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Azeri+Crimean_Tatar @ 4.843833
2 Uzbek_WGA+Crimean_Tatar @ 5.867114
3 Uzbekistan_Jew+Crimean_Tatar @ 5.990911
4 Tatar_Lithuanian+Iranian_Jew @ 6.713343
5 Turks+Crimean_Tatar @ 6.972919
6 Tatar_Lithuanian+Georgian_Jew @ 7.008411
7 Baku_WGA+Crimean_Tatar @ 7.037177
8 Kurd+Crimean_Tatar @ 7.194554
9 Tadjik+Italian_South @ 7.239725
10 Nogai+Turks @ 7.43688
11 Turkish_Adana+Crimean_Tatar @ 7.604611
12 Turkmen+Greek-Islands @ 7.670879
13 Tadjik+Greek-Islands @ 7.67329
14 Kurds+Crimean_Tatar @ 7.702028
15 Tatar_Lithuanian+Jew_Tat @ 7.734446
16 Uzbek+Italian_South @ 7.824888
17 Tatar_Lithuanian+Uzbekistani_Jews @ 7.851161
18 Uzbek_WGA+Greek @ 7.927526
19 Uzbek_WGA+Central-Greek @ 7.951299
20 Turkmen+Cretan @ 8.075194
46056 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Serb_BH @ 2.124977
2 50% Jew_Tat +25% Uyghur +25% Bulgarian @ 2.296405
3 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Croat_BH @ 2.389901
4 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Bosnian @ 2.399499
5 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Hungarian_Metspalu @ 2.458909
6 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Serb_Serbia @ 2.543075
7 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Czech @ 2.549669
8 50% Uzbekistan_Jew +25% Greek_Comas +25% Karakalpak @ 2.553143
9 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Austrian @ 2.577461
10 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% South-German @ 2.594054
11 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Slovenian @ 2.678448
12 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Mixed_European @ 2.695213
13 50% Jew_Tat +25% Uygur +25% Bulgarian @ 2.773551
14 50% Uzbekistan_Jew +25% Albanian +25% Karakalpak @ 2.792682
15 50% Uzbek_WGA +25% Tatar_Lithuanian +25% Greek-Islands @ 2.794006
16 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Croatian @ 2.816369
17 50% Turkish_Adana +25% Uzbek +25% Gagauz @ 2.824362
18 50% Jew_Tat +25% Bulgarian +25% Karakalpak @ 2.843576
19 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Montenegrian @ 2.863052
20 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Uyghur +25% Serb_Serbia @ 2.87003
8946788 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Baku_WGA+Georgian_Jew+Kosovar+Karakalpak @ 2.075438
2 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Croatian+Iranian_Jew @ 2.097239
3 Hazara+Serb_BH+Georgian_Jew+Georgian_Jew @ 2.124977
4 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Croatian+Uzbekistani_Jews @ 2.157361
5 Baku_WGA+Albanian+Uzbekistani_Jews+Karakalpak @ 2.159641
6 Kurd+Georgian_Jew+Gagauz+Karakalpak @ 2.206182
7 Hazara+Bulgarian+Lebanese_Muslim+Kakheti @ 2.207005
8 Uyghur+Kurd_Jew+Georgian_Jew+Bulgarian @ 2.209619
9 Hazara+Serb_BH+Georgian_Jew+Iranian_Jew @ 2.249957
10 Hazara+Jew_Tat+Georgian_Jew+Croatian @ 2.250752
11 Kurds+Bulgarian+Iranian_Jew+Karakalpak @ 2.260588
12 Baku_WGA+Georgian_Jew+Karakalpak+Greek @ 2.262794
13 Kurds+Bulgarian+Uzbekistani_Jews+Karakalpak @ 2.287048
14 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Croat_BH+Iranian_Jew @ 2.28739
15 Uyghur+Jew_Tat+Jew_Tat+Bulgarian @ 2.296405
16 Baku_WGA+Greek_Comas+Uzbekistani_Jews+Karakalpak @ 2.301391
17 Hazara+Serb_BH+Iraqi_Jew+Kakheti @ 2.31217
18 Hazara+South-German+Druze+Kakheti @ 2.31367
19 Baku_WGA+Kurd_Jew+Albanian+Karakalpak @ 2.31776
20 Hazara+Hungarian_Metspalu+Iraqi_Jew+Laz @ 2.330146
21 Hazara+Kurd_Jew+Georgian_Jew+Bulgarian @ 2.330934
22 Kurds+Bulgarian+Iraqi_Jew+Karakalpak @ 2.340921
23 Baku_WGA+Jew_Tat+Greek_Comas+Karakalpak @ 2.356621
24 Baku_WGA+Jew_Tat+Albanian+Karakalpak @ 2.365589
25 Kurd+Bulgarian+Uzbekistani_Jews+Karakalpak @ 2.385821
26 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+South-German+Iranian_Jew @ 2.388735
27 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Georgian_Jew+Croat_BH @ 2.389901
28 Uzbekistan_Jew+Kurd_Jew+Greek_Comas+Karakalpak @ 2.392512
29 Uyghur+Jew_Tat+Bulgarian+Iranian_Jew @ 2.392814
30 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Georgian_Jew+Bosnian @ 2.399499
31 Hazara+Mixed_European+Druze+Kakheti @ 2.404088
32 Baku_WGA+Albanian+Iranian_Jew+Karakalpak @ 2.408727
33 Uyghur+Kurds+Bulgarian+Druze @ 2.41333
34 Uzbek+Azeri+Bulgarian+Iraqi_Jew @ 2.41905
35 Kurd+Georgian_Jew+Macedonian+Karakalpak @ 2.436039
36 Hazara+Hungarian_Metspalu+Laz+Uzbekistani_Jews @ 2.439478
37 Uyghur+Jew_Tat+Georgian_Jew+Bulgarian @ 2.445479
38 Hazara+Serb_BH+Lebanese_Druze+Kakheti @ 2.446976
39 Baku_WGA+Kurd_Jew+Greek_Comas+Karakalpak @ 2.449999
40 Uzbek+Uzbek_WGA+Bulgarian+Iraqi_Jew @ 2.45133
89038467 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0.367088

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish_Istanbul @ 6.250998
2 Turkish_Balikesir @ 6.695222
3 Turkish_Aydin @ 6.7456
4 Turkish @ 6.775742
5 Crimean_Tatar @ 7.065893
6 Turks @ 8.543777
7 Turkish_Kayseri @ 9.55054
8 Kabardin @ 9.686297
9 Turkish_Adana @ 9.714702
10 Azeri @ 9.797292
11 Uzbek_WGA @ 11.509363
12 Nogai @ 11.730106
13 Azeri_Dagestan @ 11.824827
14 Ossetian @ 11.847036
15 Adygei @ 12.671906
16 Turkmen @ 12.905464
17 Azov_Greek @ 13.028444
18 Romanian_Jews @ 14.395346
19 Romanians @ 15.282684
20 Tadjik @ 16.974844
303 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Azeri+Crimean_Tatar @ 5.378759
2 Uzbek_WGA+Crimean_Tatar @ 5.40006
3 Tatar_Lithuanian+Iranian_Jew @ 5.676694
4 Tatar_Lithuanian+Georgian_Jew @ 5.731975
5 Turkish_Adana+Crimean_Tatar @ 5.861286
6 Tatar_Lithuanian+Uzbekistani_Jews @ 5.869738
7 Turkmen+Greek-Islands @ 5.880188
8 Turkish_Kayseri+Crimean_Tatar @ 5.923833
9 Turkmen+Cretan @ 5.932702
10 Turkmen+Italian_South @ 5.966584
11 Tatar_Lithuanian+Jew_Tat @ 6.003231
12 Uzbekistan_Jew+Crimean_Tatar @ 6.089718
13 Turks+Crimean_Tatar @ 6.091356
14 Turkmen+French_Jew @ 6.150765
15 Nogai+Syrian_Jew @ 6.176319
16 Azeri+Turkish @ 6.178735
17 Tatar_Lithuanian+Kurd_Jew @ 6.198522
18 Turkish_Istanbul+Crimean_Tatar @ 6.208336
19 Tatar_Lithuanian+Iraqi_Jew @ 6.212749
20 Nogai+Cretan @ 6.213581
46056 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Hungarian_Metspalu @ 3.935998
2 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Croatian @ 4.016286
3 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Croatian @ 4.025141
4 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Bulgarian @ 4.068632
5 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Hungarian_Metspalu @ 4.075544
6 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Bulgarian @ 4.085918
7 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Bulgarian +25% Karakalpak @ 4.149144
8 50% Uzbekistani_Jews +25% Hazara +25% Croatian @ 4.228057
9 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Uygur +25% Bulgarian @ 4.228462
10 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% French_South @ 4.229159
11 50% Uzbekistani_Jews +25% Hazara +25% Bulgarian @ 4.251835
12 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Hazara +25% Basque_Spanish @ 4.273684
13 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Karakalpak @ 4.293475
14 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Uygur +25% Croatian @ 4.297519
15 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Hungarian_Metspalu +25% Karakalpak @ 4.30863
16 50% Uzbekistani_Jews +25% Hazara +25% Hungarian_Metspalu @ 4.309083
17 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Uygur +25% Hungarian_Metspalu @ 4.31179
18 50% Georgian_Jew +25% Uygur +25% Hungarian_Metspalu @ 4.313528
19 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Albanian +25% Karakalpak @ 4.31586
20 50% Iranian_Jew +25% Croatian +25% Karakalpak @ 4.329299
13881140 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Hungarian_Metspalu+Iranian_Jew @ 3.914362
2 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Croatian+Iranian_Jew @ 3.925516
3 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Georgian_Jew+Hungarian_Metspal u @ 3.935998
4 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Bulgarian+Iranian_Jew @ 3.985616
5 Hazara+Croatian+Iranian_Jew+Iranian_Jew @ 4.016286
6 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Croatian+Uzbekistani_Jews @ 4.023311
7 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Georgian_Jew+Croatian @ 4.025141
8 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Hungarian_Metspalu+Uzbekistani _Jews @ 4.026238
9 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Hungarian_Metspalu+Iraqi_Jew @ 4.057193
10 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Bulgarian+Uzbekistani_Jews @ 4.058368
11 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Georgian_Jew+Bulgarian @ 4.068632
12 Hazara+Hungarian_Metspalu+Iranian_Jew+Iranian_Jew @ 4.075544
13 Hazara+Bulgarian+Iranian_Jew+Iranian_Jew @ 4.085918
14 Hazara+Hungarian_Metspalu+Iranian_Jew+Cypriot @ 4.094027
15 Hazara+Croatian+Iranian_Jew+Uzbekistani_Jews @ 4.096412
16 Hazara+Kurd_Jew+Georgian_Jew+Bulgarian @ 4.101279
17 Hazara+Croatian+Iraqi_Jew+Iranian_Jew @ 4.11424
18 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Croatian+Iraqi_Jew @ 4.117789
19 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Hungarian_Metspalu+Druze @ 4.127067
20 Hazara+Hungarian_Metspalu+Iraqi_Jew+Iranian_Jew @ 4.127637
21 Hazara+Georgian_Jew+Bulgarian+Iraqi_Jew @ 4.142626
22 Hazara+Bulgarian+Iranian_Jew+Uzbekistani_Jews @ 4.145847
23 Bulgarian+Iranian_Jew+Iranian_Jew+Karakalpak @ 4.149144
24 Hazara+Kurd_Jew+Georgian_Jew+Croatian @ 4.149989
25 Hazara+Bulgarian+Iraqi_Jew+Iranian_Jew @ 4.154626
26 Hazara+Hungarian_Metspalu+Druze+Kakheti @ 4.156281
27 Hazara+Hungarian_Metspalu+Druze+Iranian_Jew @ 4.162865
28 Hazara+Hungarian_Metspalu+Iranian_Jew+Uzbekistani_ Jews @ 4.166368
29 Hazara+Bulgarian+Iranian_Jew+Cypriot @ 4.172733
30 Hazara+Croatian+Iranian_Jew+Cypriot @ 4.177625
31 Hazara+Jew_Tat+Georgian_Jew+Croatian @ 4.178703
32 Hazara+Jew_Tat+Georgian_Jew+Hungarian_Metspalu @ 4.1877
33 Hazara+Jew_Tat+Croatian+Iranian_Jew @ 4.188985
34 Hazara+Jew_Tat+Georgian_Jew+Bulgarian @ 4.195443
35 Hazara+Hungarian_Metspalu+Iraqi_Jew+Kakheti @ 4.198688
36 Hazara+Kurd_Jew+Georgian_Jew+Hungarian_Metspalu @ 4.208783
37 Hazara+Croatian+Druze+Iranian_Jew @ 4.209765
38 Hazara+Hungarian_Metspalu+Lebanese_Christian+Kakhe ti @ 4.213991
39 Uygur+Georgian_Jew+Bulgarian+Iranian_Jew @ 4.214788
40 Hazara+Jew_Tat+Bulgarian+Iranian_Jew @ 4.221939
351830172 iterations.

[Gooding]

finally i received my results yesterday.
http://i.hizliresim.com/EYl2l8.jpg
DODECAD RESULTS
http://i.hizliresim.com/YBPVl2.jpg
http://i.hizliresim.com/pg428o.jpg
world9
http://i.hizliresim.com/qYqyBq.png
http://i.hizliresim.com/BMXG2Q.jpg
k12b
http://i.hizliresim.com/2g7PYq.jpg
http://i.hizliresim.com/rQLym7.jpg

EUROGENES RESULTS
http://i.hizliresim.com/3D8gEj.jpg
http://i.hizliresim.com/j5JA6g.jpg
MDLP RESULTS
http://i.hizliresim.com/3D8gg4.jpg
http://i.hizliresim.com/ZDNnjA.jpg
Bolu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolu_Province), my hometown
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Bolu_in_Turkey.svg/300px-Bolu_in_Turkey.svg.png

Congratulations on your results, Gultekin! :) It looks like you come of a good and noble line of Turkic peoples! A true son of Turan! :thumb001:

[gültekin]

Congratulations on your results, Gultekin! :) It looks like you come of a good and noble line of Turkic peoples! A true son of Turan! :thumb001:
thank you, true son of noble Arthur :thumb001:

[Gooding]

thank you, true son of noble Arthur :thumb001:
I only said that which was true, but you're welcome, Gultekin. :) By the way, thank you for improving my mood 10,000 times! I'll be going into work whistling as I remember reading this. :thumbs up

[OnceLord]

Impressive actually. But let's not go crazy with your or Ashina's high East Asian blood - There are many Turks with barely any of it in them. You may or may not know your 'Atsiz' comrade is pretty much 99% Armenian and scores barely a couple percent of that Asian blood. There are as many examples of these super native types as there are super steppe saiyans like you

55% Turkmen, LoL, must have made your day eh

[gültekin]

Impressive actually. But let's not go crazy with your or Ashina's high East Asian blood - There are many Turks with barely any of it in them. You may or may not know your 'Atsiz' comrade is pretty much 99% Armenian and scores barely a couple percent of that Asian blood. There are as many examples of these super native types as there are super steppe saiyans like you

55% Turkmen, LoL, must have made your day eh
i'm ok with all my ancestors
and Atsız was classified as an nordic in TA xD btw

[Gooding]

I only said that which was true, but you're welcome, Gultekin. :) By the way, thank you for improving my mood 10,000 times! I'll be going into work whistling as I remember reading this. :thumbs up

..as I did this afternoon. :) Thanks for the uplift, Gultekin.

[Weedman]

Turkmen + Greek = Turk. Cool mix :)

not Greek.

Native Anatolian


Central Asiatic Turkic + native Anatolian (Neolithic) = modern day Turkish/ Turkey

[gültekin]

..as I did this afternoon. :) Thanks for the uplift, Gultekin.
:cheers: your welcome bro, i’m also thankful for your courtesy :)

[Gooding]

:cheers: your welcome bro, i’m also thankful for your courtesy :)

You're more than welcome, Gultekin. :) Like everybody else, I'm sure, I was simply brought up to be polite to people, online and IRL.

[Goujian]

i'm ok with all my ancestors
and Atsız was classified as an nordic in TA xD btw

55% Turkmen is still impressive.

[Böri]

55% Turkmen is still impressive.

It's normal you show this reaction. There are other Turks like Yörüks who are 70% similar to Turkmens, Tatars, Nogays, Karachays and other. This perception that we are just linguistic shifts was created on internet for many years by complexed, failed, envious, jaleous propagandists like some Armenians, Persians, Kurds, Greeks etc obviously. now with DNA tests Turks can prove they really descend from Seljuks and Ottomans. There are many people who envy anything but really anything we have.

[Danishmend]

jaleous propagandists like some Armenians, Persians, Kurds, Greeks etc obviously

All of them are pseudo Indo-Europeans with 10-20% Yamnaya admixture at max. The irony is that we non-IE speaking Turks are genetically more yamnaya-related than them.

Here is Videsupra's results btw.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?171252-VideSupra-My-Origins

[Proto-Shaman]

All of them are pseudo Indo-Europeans with 10-20% Yamnaya admixture at max. The irony is that we non-IE speaking Turks are genetically more yamnaya-related than them.

Here is Videsupra's results btw.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?171252-VideSupra-My-Origins
Because of the simple fact that Yamnaya men were simply R1b-Z2105 Turkics. Lactose tolerance is underpinning this simple fact.

[Danishmend]

Because of the simple fact that Yamnaya men were simply R1b-Z2105 Turkics. Lactase persistance is underpinning this simple fact.

Ofcourse they were not Turkic, but they were steppe people as well. That's why Tatars, Bashkirs etc score more Yamnaya-related ancestry than Northern Europeans.

[Pennywise]

Because of the simple fact that Yamnaya men were simply R1b-Z2105 Turkics. Lactose tolerance is underpinning this simple fact.

R1b is often considered IE marker with R1a. There are some objections about it but still nothing proved against it.

[Proto-Shaman]

R1b is often considered IE marker with R1a. There are some objections about it but still nothing proved against it.
Yeah I know this story. Russians say R1a is Slavic, R1b is Turkic. Europeans say nooo R1b is Celtic and R1a is Slavo-Iranic bs. Wet dreams remain wet.

[Proto-Shaman]

Ofcourse they were not Turkic, but they were steppe people as well. That's why Tatars, Bashkirs etc score more Yamnaya-related ancestry than Northern Europeans.
What does steppe people mean to you? any ethnic considerations?

[Danishmend]

What does steppe people mean to you? any ethnic considerations?

Not all steppe peoples were Turkic, those that imposed their language upon europeans were IE speakers for example.



Yeah I know this story. Russians say R1a is Slavic, R1b is Turkic. Europeans say nooo R1b is Celtic and R1a is Slavo-Iranic bs. Wet dreams remain wet.
Associating haplogroups with etnicities or language families is ridiculous, as haplogroups are much MUCH older than "ethnicities". R1b may be both Indo-European and Turkic, it is one of the ancient north eurasian haplogroups afterall.

[gültekin]

http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img911/8652/MbsltA.png
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img673/1152/GwSF9f.png
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img661/5977/huAovA.png
http://s30.postimg.org/924spgc81/nnnnnnnnnnnnnn.png

Your predicted haplogroup is under review.

Our team is reviewing your haplogroup prediction for accuracy. This process can take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. We apologize for the inconvenience and will update this page automatically when your prediction is ready.
http://www.hprg.com/hapest5/
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img913/5706/avsmoU.png

[Ice]

Congratz

[Charles Bronson]

congratulations. a real turk.

[Linet]

What happened Gulte ? :eyes ....explain the chart to me, i dont understand these things :icon_redface: ....are you descendand of Greeks and now you want to convert to Orthodoxy :fpope: or are you a true Turk whose dna comes right from the Mongolian steppes http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/horses/smileys-horses-234277.gif?

[gültekin]

What happened Gulte ? :eyes ....explain the chart to me, i dont understand these things :icon_redface: ....are you descendand of Greeks and now you want to convert to Orthodoxy :fpope: or are you a true Turk whose dna comes right from the Mongolian steppes http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/horses/smileys-horses-234277.gif?
no sadly from more north :p
http://www.arcticphoto.co.uk/Pix/RV/01/RV.0012-15_P.JPG

[Linet]

no sadly from more nord :p
http://www.arcticphoto.co.uk/Pix/RV/01/RV.0012-15_P.JPG

Send me a photo while you ride Rudolf http://fun.resplace.net/Emoticons/Christmas/Reindear.gif


....although i am a bit disappointed :pout: ...i really would like to see you baptised like that...

http://www.egolpion.com/img/logos/baptism-31.jpg

Think of it :naughty: ...you can even pick your new name :lightbul: ....

[gültekin]

Send me a photo while you ride Rudolf http://fun.resplace.net/Emoticons/Christmas/Reindear.gif
....although i am a bit disappointed :pout: ...i really would like to see you baptised like that...

Think of it :naughty: ...you can even pick your new name :lightbul: ....
omg thanks Tengri i'm safe now :lol00001:
http://radioornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/laughing-reindeer-laugh-jokes.jpg

[Charles Bronson]

have you, your mtDNA results?

[gültekin]

http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img538/2415/9DIFZn.png
LOL :lol:


https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/project-administration/gap-interpretation/snp-assurance-program-2/
What is the SNP Assurance Program? What is a backbone test?
In order to provide our customers with the highest level of haplogroup confidence, Family Tree DNA provides (beginning with batch 173) the SNP Assurance program. If a person’s Y-DNA haplogroup cannot be predicted with 100% confidence, the SNP Assurance Program will test your sample with our Backbone SNP test for FREE. Specifically, if we cannot predict a person’s Y-DNA haplogroup with sufficient confidence that they can join the National Geographic’s Genographic Project, we will automatically perform a Backbone SNP test in order to identify the haplogroup assignment.

[Green]

how much it cost you?

[gültekin]

http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img911/8652/MbsltA.png
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img673/1152/GwSF9f.png
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img661/5977/huAovA.png
http://s30.postimg.org/924spgc81/nnnnnnnnnnnnnn.png
Finally my Y-dna is predicted as N-M231
http://s15.postimg.org/vvkh0aicb/ydna1.png
http://s7.postimg.org/b5zpouvln/ydna2.png
http://s16.postimg.org/85j00xccl/ydna3.png
İ know i need to order some snp's , but ftdna has already ordered automatically an y-hap-backbone test which i must to wait its result thought

Y-HAP-Backbone Backbone 625 07/15/2015 - 07/29/2015

have you, your mtDNA results?
don't ordered yet, it takes a long time to wait for results, ftdna does not treat me well


how much it cost you?
$99 for Family Finder (myorigins) and 59$ for Y-dna 12 marker test

[Charles Bronson]

don't ordered yet, it takes a long time to wait for results, ftdna does not treat me well

because you are a turk?:)


then i make my dna test by 23andme.