Okay, I Finally Did It.

[Gooding]

I went ahead and transferred my autosomal DNA to FTDNA and paid the $39.00 to get it processed on My Origins. I'm thinking that I'm going to get results not too dissimilar to 23andMe and Ancestry DNA. I'll get quite a bit of Germanic, Celtic and Scandinavian. I'll be able to say, however, that I did all three of the autosomal tests. I guess I'll get the results on Thursday or so. I have to say that this stuff is addicting.

[Skjaldemjøden]

Addicting and costly.
Will look forward to hearing whether the results vary.

[Pahli]

Addicting and costly.
Will look forward to hearing whether the results vary.

Yup, I wish there was some cheap solutions for DNA testing in Denmark

[Gooding]

Addicting and costly.
Will look forward to hearing whether the results vary.

I'll let you know the results as soon as I get them. They might well vary, but I don't really know.

[Neon Knight]

I went ahead and transferred my autosomal DNA to FTDNA and paid the $39.00 to get it processed on My Origins. I'm thinking that I'm going to get results not too dissimilar to 23andMe and Ancestry DNA. I'll get quite a bit of Germanic, Celtic and Scandinavian. I'll be able to say, however, that I did all three of the autosomal tests. I guess I'll get the results on Thursday or so. I have to say that this stuff is addicting.What were your results with AncestryDNA?

[Gooding]

What were your results with AncestryDNA?

100% European
45% Europe West
28% Ireland
13% Scandinavia
6% Iberian Peninsula
Trace Regions
4% Great Britain
3% Europe East
<1% Finland/ Northwest Russia

[Mortimer]

100% European
45% Europe West
28% Ireland
13% Scandinavia
6% Iberian Peninsula
Trace Regions
4% Great Britain
3% Europe East
<1% Finland/ Northwest Russia

for some reason i think you are more british in real life then 4% right, it isnt that exact really but it gives good clues on ancestry, i for example am confirmed genetic roma

[Gooding]

for some reason i think you are more british in real life then 4% right, it isnt that exact really but it gives good clues on ancestry, i for example am confirmed genetic roma

Frankly, I'm a lot, a lot, a lot more British in ancestry than 4% according to my paperwork as well as the 23andMe results. I read some of the white paper on AncestryDNA and they say that their tests go back a lot further than 400 years or so. In that case, a lot of the ethnic ancestry of the British Isles can be traced back to Western Europe. I don't know how they arrived at their 4% Great Britain unless they're talking about pre-Celtic origins in the British Isles. My Scottish blood is largely Celtic genetically, apparently, so I get the 28% Ireland. I'm looking forward to seeing what FamilyTree will say.

[Neon Knight]

Frankly, I'm a lot, a lot, a lot more British in ancestry than 4% according to my paperwork as well as the 23andMe results. I read some of the white paper on AncestryDNA and they say that their tests go back a lot further than 400 years or so. In that case, a lot of the ethnic ancestry of the British Isles can be traced back to Western Europe. I don't know how they arrived at their 4% Great Britain unless they're talking about pre-Celtic origins in the British Isles. My Scottish blood is largely Celtic genetically, apparently, so I get the 28% Ireland. I'm looking forward to seeing what FamilyTree will say.My mum recently tested with AncestryDNA and she got 73% British.

[Musso]

when will FTDNA support 23andMe version 4?

[Gooding]

My mum recently tested with AncestryDNA and she got 73% British.

That makes sense, though. When 23andMe did my DNA, I was tagged as 56.5% British and Irish, 16.0% French and German, 3.3% Scandinavian and 0.3% Finnish. I was 22.2% Broadly Northern European, 0.3% Broadly Southern European and 1.0% Broadly European. Of course, I was also 0.2% Native American, 0.2% Sub- Saharan African and 01.% Unassigned. When I saw the results from AncestryDNA I was completely flummoxed, but I read some things they wrote about people having an interest in " Deep Ancestry." That's supposedly ancestry that goes back a bit further than the four centuries back data 23andMe provided.

[Neon Knight]

That makes sense, though. When 23andMe did my DNA, I was tagged as 56.5% British and Irish, 16.0% French and German, 3.3% Scandinavian and 0.3% Finnish. I was 22.2% Broadly Northern European, 0.3% Broadly Southern European and 1.0% Broadly European. Of course, I was also 0.2% Native American, 0.2% Sub- Saharan African and 01.% Unassigned. When I saw the results from AncestryDNA I was completely flummoxed, but I read some things they wrote about people having an interest in " Deep Ancestry." That's supposedly ancestry that goes back a bit further than the four centuries back data 23andMe provided.By the way, did you do any of the GEDmatch oracles to find your closest populations (especially Eurogenes K13)?

[Gooding]

By the way, did you do any of the GEDmatch oracles to find your closest populations (especially Eurogenes K13)?

This is what I've got for my 23andMe kit on Eurogenes 13.
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.

Gedmatch.Com

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.97
2 Baltic 24.33
3 West_Med 14.79
4 West_Asian 5.01
5 East_Med 4.12


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 3.296912
2 Orcadian @ 4.506057
3 Southwest_English @ 4.917368
4 North_Dutch @ 5.169475
5 South_Dutch @ 5.559696
6 Danish @ 5.706536
7 Irish @ 5.803369
8 North_German @ 6.000377
9 West_Scottish @ 6.416744
10 West_German @ 7.110640
11 Norwegian @ 7.726747
12 Swedish @ 9.248416
13 French @ 11.883265
14 Austrian @ 13.049087
15 East_German @ 13.538095
16 North_Swedish @ 15.265244
17 Hungarian @ 18.612736
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.988382
19 Southwest_French @ 20.807871
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 21.246466

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% South_Dutch @ 2.013047


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Dutch +25% Spanish_Cantabria +25% Swedish @ 0.994333


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 0.819407
2 North_German + Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 0.916236
3 Irish + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish + Swedish @ 0.923874
4 Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 0.978693
5 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 0.994333
6 North_German + Norwegian + Norwegian + Southwest_French @ 1.035776
7 Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 1.040004
8 Irish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 1.042969
9 Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 1.083445
10 Irish + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.083897
11 North_Dutch + Spanish_Aragon + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.086088
12 Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Swedish @ 1.095790
13 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.108024
14 Irish + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.111750
15 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Southwest_French + Swedish @ 1.116421
16 Irish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 1.152156
17 Danish + North_Dutch + Southwest_French + Swedish @ 1.153069
18 East_German + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 1.156707
19 Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 1.157363
20 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.159144

Done.

Elapsed time 2.9915 seconds.

[Gooding]

This is what I got with my AncestryDNA kit:
Gedmatch.Com

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.73
2 Baltic 23.99
3 West_Med 14.64
4 West_Asian 5.38
5 East_Med 4.17
6 Amerindian 1.23
7 Red_Sea 1.06


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 3.466228
2 Orcadian @ 4.705978
3 Southwest_English @ 5.060140
4 South_Dutch @ 5.245272
5 North_Dutch @ 5.299627
6 Danish @ 5.814469
7 Irish @ 5.853244
8 North_German @ 5.922781
9 West_Scottish @ 6.513793
10 West_German @ 6.742904
11 Norwegian @ 7.926299
12 Swedish @ 9.455050
13 French @ 11.612298
14 Austrian @ 12.926639
15 East_German @ 13.513567
16 North_Swedish @ 15.459769
17 Hungarian @ 18.460772
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.822258
19 Southwest_French @ 20.750923
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 21.080109

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% South_Dutch @ 1.776390


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Dutch +25% Spanish_Cantabria +25% Swedish @ 1.265724


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 North_German + Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.043706
2 Irish + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.134697
3 Irish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 1.159044
4 Austrian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 1.233354
5 Irish + Norwegian + Portuguese + Swedish @ 1.234331
6 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 1.234477
7 Irish + Norwegian + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 1.254759
8 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 1.265724
9 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Swedish @ 1.273651
10 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.273921
11 Irish + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.275421
12 Irish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 1.277313
13 Irish + North_German + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 1.295973
14 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Swedish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 1.315739
15 Austrian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 1.324346
16 Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Swedish @ 1.326395
17 Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 1.327074
18 Irish + Irish + North_Swedish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.327237
19 Irish + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 1.329181
20 Austrian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 1.332876

Done.

Elapsed time 2.4206 seconds.

[Neon Knight]

Thanks. Looks like GEDmatch brought things into a clearer focus for you.

[Gooding]

Thanks. Looks like GEDmatch brought things into a clearer focus for you.

If nothing else, it looks like most of my English blood hails from the southern areas of England.. :thumb001: I seem to have quite the Northwestern European genetic base. Even the Spanish areas mentioned in the Oracle are from Green Spain, or the northern regions..

[Neon Knight]

My 23andMe - K13 matches are very similar:

01 Orcadian 5.93
02 Southeast_English 5.98
03 Southwest_English 6.04
04 Irish 6.29
05 North_Dutch 6.56
06 South_Dutch 6.65
07 North_German 6.81
08 Danish 7.02
09 West_Scottish 7.2
10 West_German 7.77

Let's just hope that in 200 years' time there are still lots of British and Amercan people getting results like these :)

[Gooding]

My 23andMe - K13 matches are very similar:

01 Orcadian 5.93
02 Southeast_English 5.98
03 Southwest_English 6.04
04 Irish 6.29
05 North_Dutch 6.56
06 South_Dutch 6.65
07 North_German 6.81
08 Danish 7.02
09 West_Scottish 7.2
10 West_German 7.77

Let's just hope that in 200 years' time there are still lots of British and Amercan people getting results like these :)

That's part of my evening prayers every night. As reviled as we are by the media, we deserve not only to survive, but to thrive. Doing so can only enrich the world.

[Gooding]

Update: apparently, the kit I ordered in January was in multiples. That's been sorted out and I should get my results in a couple of days. I'm glad I was able to talk to them on the phone. They seemed to be really nice and actively interested in getting me my results.

[Gooding]

I got my FamilyTreeDNA results today.
I came out as being 100% European.
41% Western and Central Europe
36% British Isles
11% Eastern Europe
5% Southern Europe
4% Scandinavia
3% Finland and Northern Siberia

[Gooding]

Bump.

[Lock]

I got my FamilyTreeDNA results today.
I came out as being 100% European.
41% Western and Central Europe
36% British Isles
11% Eastern Europe
5% Southern Europe
4% Scandinavia
3% Finland and Northern Siberia

My FTDNA is
Scandinavia 35%
Southern Europe 26%
British Isles 26%
Eastern Europe 11%
Central Asian 1%

Total of 99% so I am missing 1% somewhere lol

[Schweinsteiger]

for some reason i think you are more british in real life then 4% right, it isnt that exact really but it gives good clues on ancestry, i for example am confirmed genetic roma
You have more Chins than a Hong Kong phone book, "King Kong" lmao, tsingtao.

[Lock]

You have more Chins than a Hong Kong phone book, "King Kong" lmao, tsingtao.

Wow really? That was cruel..

[Schweinsteiger]

Wow really? That was cruel..

Real men are cruel.