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Sahson
07-01-2010, 01:23 PM
what do Keltic, Atlantid, Mederteranid look like, and what are their main distinguishing features? I have trouble distinguishing these types, and atl-med maybe a fairly common mix, Im still at a loss on how to distinguish these subraces from the rest.

Also exemplars would be good too. :D

Thanks

lei.talk
07-01-2010, 04:11 PM
what do Keltic (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-keltic.htm), Atlantid (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#ATLANTID), Mediterranid (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss2.htm#MEDITERRANID) look like,
and what are their main distinguishing features?

Sahson
07-03-2010, 03:04 AM
I already know about keltic-nordid, and atlanto-mediterranean. But what about Atlantid and Keltic on their own, I have never seen an exemplar from both.

lei.talk
07-03-2010, 10:14 AM
But what about
Atlantid = http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#ATLANTID this is atlantid "on its own"
and Keltic = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_race#Coon_.281939.29 there is no keltic "on its own"
on their own, I have never seen an exemplar from both.

Stefan
07-03-2010, 10:31 AM
Atlantid probably best describes an intermediate between a Nordid and a Mediterranid, through process that doesn't fall entirely within either spectrum. Atlanto-Mediterranids fall within the Mediterranid spectrum in terms of features, and are not too deviant from the ancestral Mediterranid population. They represent the more Dolicho-Leptomorphic, robust, tall(er) end of the spectrum which pulls towards Nordids opposed with the GracileMediterranid which is defined by being the more gracile(hence the name), comparably infantilized, mesomorphic, shorter type. "Keltic" seems to be an ambiguous term and not too well defined.

Jarl
07-03-2010, 11:31 AM
Atlantid probably best describes an intermediate between a Nordid and a Mediterranid, through process that doesn't fall entirely within either spectrum. Atlanto-Mediterranids fall within the Mediterranid spectrum in terms of features, and are not too deviant from the ancestral Mediterranid population. They represent the more Dolicho-Leptomorphic, robust, tall(er) end of the spectrum which pulls towards Nordids opposed with the GracileMediterranid which is defined by being the more gracile(hence the name), comparably infantilized, mesomorphic, shorter type. "Keltic" seems to be an ambiguous term and not too well defined.


100% agreed. The whole "Keltic Nordic" doesn't come from the literature, but from SNPA. It is pretty much Nordic (Coon's Iron Age Nordic).

lei.talk
07-03-2010, 11:39 AM
"Keltic (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#KELTIC NORDIC)" seems to be an ambiguous term and not too well defined.
how might this explication (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-keltic.htm) be improved?


http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate29.htm

from

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troephotos.htm

Stefan
07-03-2010, 11:48 AM
how might this explication (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-keltic.htm) be improved?

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate29.htm

I don't have a problem at all with the definition SNPA provides for Keltic Nordid, but I'm remembering a while back when I made a classification thread for my mother, there was a discussion and distinction about a difference between the "Keltic" definition provided from some other site which I believe was based off of Coon and that of a "Keltic-Nordid". Which I was assuming is what Daguerreo meant by this "and Keltic on their own". So by that, I meant 'Keltic' doesn't seem to be defined thoroughly, while Keltic-Nordid has been.

Edit: Here is the post by The Black Prince that I was referring to.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=121420&postcount=12



100% agreed. The whole "Keltic Nordic" doesn't come from the literature, but from SNPA. It is pretty much Nordic (Coon's Iron Age Nordic).

They do mention that in SNPA, but don't go too much into detail.

"Iron Age Nordic (used by Coon as an alternative to Keltic Nordic, but also to denote any Iron Age central European Nordid)"

lei.talk
07-03-2010, 12:22 PM
What does everybody say about Keltic influence in her?

I was looking at the races on this site. It seems to me she fits the "Keltic" descripition the most.

http://amorsite.110mb.com/index_files/Keltictype.htm

Especially her nose shape and forehead. She is darker that what I see in these pictures though, but that seems to be independent based on admixture. This "Keltic" type seems to be a mix of Western European ethnicities. So that fits with her ancestral description.


http://amorsite.110mb.com/index-filer/Keltictype.htm (http://amorsite.110mb.com/index-filer/Keltictype.htm)

Sahson
07-03-2010, 08:54 PM
Ah, so Keltic-nordic, is just another nordic form. I am from Sheffield, England, I know I see tons of Nordics, lots of blond haired people as well, and some Brunn's. It still beats me then how I could be an atlanto-med then.

My mom is Brunn-Nordic. I think its quite apparent my grandfather is anglo-saxon, and my grandmother Brunn.