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barbatus
05-02-2015, 02:07 AM
What ethnic groups do you think are the most Catholic or have their Catholic faith as a large aspect of their identity?
I nominate Italians, Poles and (maybe?) Croats.

Gooding
05-02-2015, 02:10 AM
Spaniards, Irish, Portuguese, Italians.

Ctwentysevenj
05-02-2015, 03:38 AM
Also Polish and French. Many Austrians are now atheists.

Gooding
05-02-2015, 03:45 AM
Also Polish and French. Many Austrians are now atheists.

I was going to include the French at first, but I understand that their Catholic population has fallen to the point where French identity is no longer automatically synonymous with the Catholic faith.

Ctwentysevenj
05-02-2015, 03:49 AM
I was going to include the French at first, but I understand that their Catholic population has fallen to the point where French identity is no longer automatically synonymous with the Catholic faith.

Even in Italy, there has been an increase in atheism.

Weedman
05-02-2015, 03:53 AM
I'll include national catholics and not only practicing ones

I;ve heard Poland is the most catholic country in Europe. (or at least it was at one time)

then I'd say Spain or Portugal

and France and Ireland

Belgium is mostly atheist or half athiest and half catholic in reality but it should be noted the Flemish people in Belgium have always been traditionally national Catholic, if not always practicing ones, which has always set them apart from the Dutch and the N. Germans. And is something they have always had in common with the Walloons, despite the linguistic and political differences throughout their history

I have to add the Czech Republic and Slovakia and Slovenia to the list too.

Weedman
05-02-2015, 03:56 AM
Even in Italy, there has been an increase in atheism.

Italians are, what they call, 'cafeteria catholics'

at least it's hat one Vatican priest said about them in the Bill Mahr documentary -Religulous-

I just call them Waffer Worshippers, LMFAO

and child molesters since that's what they are, LMFAO
Just joking.......Im FUCKING JOKING so SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Gooding
05-02-2015, 04:04 AM
Italians are, what they call, 'cafeteria catholics'

at least it's hat one Vatican priest said about them in the Bill Mahr documentary -Religulous-

I just call them Waffer Worshippers, LMFAO

and child molesters since that's what they are, LMFAO
Just joking.......Im FUCKING JOKING so SHUT THE FUCK UP!

LOL, that is pretty funny. Meh, hey, I have read posts where Protestants were referred to collectively as a " joke," and as I take my Protestant faith pretty seriously, I just kept silent to avoid a long and drawn out argument on who was more right than who. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Back to topic, I would suppose that Lithuanians, Poles, Western Ukrainians, Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes, Croats and Maltese would also qualify as Catholics whose nationality is tied into their religion and vice versa.

barbatus
05-02-2015, 04:04 AM
The only Euro nationalities I see as being inherently tied to the Catholic faith are Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Poles and again, (maybe?) Croats.
The French are officially secular.

Insuperable
05-02-2015, 04:12 AM
The only Euro nationalities I see as being inherently tied to the Catholic faith are Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Poles and again, (maybe?) Croats.
The French are officially secular.

Why maybe?

Ctwentysevenj
05-02-2015, 04:20 AM
The only Euro nationalities I see as being inherently tied to the Catholic faith are Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Poles and again, (maybe?) Croats.
The French are officially secular.

And Ireland where Catholicism is very strong.

Brianna
05-02-2015, 04:59 AM
The only Euro nationalities I see as being inherently tied to the Catholic faith are Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Poles and again, (maybe?) Croats.
The French are officially secular.

Did you forget to mention Irish people? Santa's mistress stole my thunder. I read somewhere that Irish Catholics were rather lukewarm in their faith at one time in their past. I guess that they became more devout when they faced so much abuse and oppression in the 1600s. Tragedy has a way of doing that.

It's hard to believe that French Catholics were very devout in the past. They did a complete 180 when it came to religious devotion. Joan of Arc must be shaking her head in Heaven. I'm surprised by the lack of religiosity among many Italian people too. It's almost counterintuitive. I read that the occult and satanism are more popular in some parts of Italy than they were in the past. Priests perform more exorcisms. Some theologians claim that demonic activity is on the rise there.

I think that Polish people are quite faithful. I knew a boy, of Polish descent, whose uncle was a priest. He went out with us one night. He was very cool, like Jonathan Morris, the religious correspondent on Fox News. My friend's family was very proud of Pope John Paul II. They had a large picture of him on the wall in their living room. My friend's grandparents were from Poland. They were a very friendly family. I've always had an affinity for Polish people.

Some of my ancestors were Irish Catholics but they converted to Protestantism. I'm not sure about some of my French and German ancestors. Their descendants, in those countries, probably are secular in their outlook. The secularization of Europe has been an ongoing phenomenon for years. It's like a great Falling Away.

barbatus
05-02-2015, 05:17 AM
I didn't include the Irish simply because I don't know enough about the country. If someone called me on it, I couldn't defend it.
Even the IRA, I think, use "Catholic" as a synonym for "Irish Republican" and I'm not so sure they're devout. They're socialists, after all.

barbatus
05-02-2015, 05:19 AM
Why maybe?

I don't know enough about Croatia. Do Croats associate Catholicism with their identity in the same way Serbs do with Orthodoxy?

Brianna
05-02-2015, 05:27 AM
I didn't include the Irish simply because I don't know enough about the country. If someone called me on it, I couldn't defend it.
Even the IRA, I think, use "Catholic" as a synonym for "Irish Republican" and I'm not so sure they're devout. They're socialists, after all.

The IRA and the UDF acted more like satanists than Catholics and Protestants. WWJD? He wouldn't blow up shops and shoot up pubs. BTW, I'm referring to "spiritual" satanists rather than atheistic satanists.

Prism
05-02-2015, 09:37 AM
Ireland and Poland.

Lusos
05-02-2015, 01:08 PM
Only Our grandparents care about religion.we don't.Ireland with their sort of outdated laws have to be number one.

Dombra
05-02-2015, 01:22 PM
Poland, Iberia and Italy.

Ukgjin
05-02-2015, 01:35 PM
Roman Catholic identity is quite strong and well alive amongst the old generations in Northern Albania too, especially amongst the regions of Mirdite, Malesi, Kurbin, Mati, highlands of Kruja, Dukagjin and the most dominant and very fast growing in big cities like Shkoder, Lezhe and a few other minor cities, in fact all Ghegs since the 10th Century with the spread of the State of Arber( first Albanian official state) have been Catholic, and have always had friendly views towards it because it was not imposed on us violently, rather spread by our very own kin, the Roman-Illyrian emperor Justinian, so for most it has become a part of ethnic identity buried in from a long time hence it could be said thatnit originated partially by us.

The Roman Catholic population of Albanian Kosovars grew to more than 60,000 last year as many Albanians from Kosovo, trace their origins in the villages of Northern Albania and wish to return to their own roots and the figure of Mother Teresa now has become very important for them.

But Albanian Roman Catholicism is special, as it has many pagan elements from the previous Illyrian, Thracian minority Dacian beliefs, so this merging composes a new type of affiliation which is completely European and local.

StormBringer
05-02-2015, 02:27 PM
Croats, and Irish perhaps?
Or maybe I'm just projecting Balkan on British Isles, "They're in conflict, there must be heavy religiousness brought on by polarization!" xD

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
05-02-2015, 02:28 PM
Italians, Irish

Insuperable
05-02-2015, 02:33 PM
I don't know enough about Croatia. Do Croats associate Catholicism with their identity in the same way Serbs do with Orthodoxy?

I guess it is a part of identity since many traditions are linked with it. Croats were Roman Catholic before Irish or Poles for example and today after Poland and Malta I think the third most Catholic country in Europe. I am surprised nobody mentions Croatia, some probably hear about Croatia for the first time.

Grace O'Malley
05-02-2015, 02:45 PM
By church goers it is this in order from highest. Poland is the most Catholic country in Europe.

Poland (54%)
Malta (52%)
Ireland (46%)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_attendance

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/05/17184588-as-church-attendance-drops-europes-most-catholic-country-seeks-modern-pope?lite

Sandman
05-02-2015, 03:00 PM
Poland and ireland are most catholic. Half of Germans is also a Catholic. But unlike the Poles, Germans do not go to churches on Sunday.

Empecinado
05-02-2015, 03:03 PM
Spain is not Catholic anymore. I'd say Poland, Ireland and Malta.

Cristiano viejo
05-02-2015, 03:06 PM
No one has done more for the Catholicism than Italy and Spain.

Insuperable
05-02-2015, 03:18 PM
Spain is not Catholic anymore. I'd say Poland, Ireland and Malta.


Poland and ireland are most catholic. Half of Germans is also a Catholic. But unlike the Poles, Germans do not go to churches on Sunday.

May I ask why Croatia doesn't come to mind?

TheGoldenSon
05-02-2015, 03:26 PM
I think South American nations rely more on religion than their European counterparts.

Empecinado
05-02-2015, 03:40 PM
May I ask why Croatia doesn't come to mind?

Too small to come often to my mind, but you are right, should be in the top.

Insuperable
05-02-2015, 03:41 PM
Too small to come often to my mind, but you are right, should be in the top.

I understand because Malta and Ireland are lot bigger.

Empecinado
05-02-2015, 04:07 PM
I understand because Malta and Ireland are lot bigger.

They are islands and have been independent since long so come easy to the mind, Croatia is "another Balkan country".

Insuperable
05-02-2015, 04:10 PM
They are islands and have been independent since long so come easy to the mind, Croatia is "another Balkan country".

I thought so you are going to say like this. That is what I wanted to know.

Prism
05-02-2015, 04:13 PM
I Would say Croatia would be in the top five most catholic in Europe but croatia is not more catholic than Ireland or Poland , Malta I have no idea.

Empecinado
05-02-2015, 04:14 PM
I thought so you are going to say like this. That is what I wanted to know.

People usually lump together all Balkan countries, probably because 1. are small. 2. got independence recently. Even myself, being aware about their differences, unconcienciously groups all together.

Insuperable
05-02-2015, 04:22 PM
People usually lump together all Balkan countries, probably because 1. are small. 2. got independence recently. Even myself, being aware about their differences, unconcienciously groups all together.

First of all, although they got their independence recently the existence of their countries in one form or the other throughout the history can be debated. Secondly, judging by the title it has to do more with ethnic groups than with anything else.

Grace O'Malley
05-02-2015, 04:35 PM
I understand because Malta and Ireland are lot bigger.

I think Croatia is similar to the Republic of Ireland as far as population and Malta is tiny. I just didn't find any info on Croatia but they do appear to be a strong Catholic country. Here it says that 30.3% of Croatians attend church weekly so that would make it lower on the list than Poland, Malta and Ireland. I think those 3 have the greatest percentage of population that attend church weekly.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/alex-sakalis/most-catholic-country-in-europe-croatia-and-catholic-church

Dragoon
05-02-2015, 04:38 PM
The countries that are most Catholic have been mentioned already in this topic.

My opinion...
Tier 1: Poland, Ireland, Malta, Croatia
Tier 2: Italy, Portugal, Lithuania
Tier 3: Spain, Slovakia
Tier 4: France, Germany, Slovenia, Hungary, Switzerland
Tier 5: Netherlands

There is also Vatican City but its so tiny. Germany has a split of Catholics, Protestants, and non-religious. I actually find it sad that France has lost much of its Catholic tradition and I wish Germans were a bit more Catholic.

Dylan
05-02-2015, 04:45 PM
I think Croatia is similar to the Republic of Ireland as far as population and Malta is tiny. I just didn't find any info on Croatia but they do appear to be a strong Catholic country. Here it says that 30.3% of Croatians attend church weekly so that would make it lower on the list than Poland, Malta and Ireland. I think those 3 have the greatest percentage of population that attend church weekly.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/alex-sakalis/most-catholic-country-in-europe-croatia-and-catholic-church

There are two reasons why a community might be very strongly catholic in identity. 1. they believe in and go to church, like you said. But Catholicism like in Ireland of the 1920s is part of their national identity as well because that's what separates them from Serbs, Bosnians, etc. Something that is very important in the decades after the Balkan war, but probably of declining importance.

Dylan
05-02-2015, 04:50 PM
I thought so you are going to say like this. That is what I wanted to know.

Eastern Europe to westerners, as you probably already know, is just a big blob of unknown countries that speak weird languages and are very violent. Malta isn't so familiar except to Mediterraneans, but Ireland is.
The same is probably true for American states, do you know anything about Connecticut, where I'm from? The population is 3.6 million, the same as Croatia.

Grace O'Malley
05-02-2015, 04:50 PM
The countries that are most Catholic have been mentioned already in this topic.

My opinion...
Tier 1: Poland, Ireland, Malta, Croatia
Tier 2: Italy, Portugal, Lithuania
Tier 3: Spain, Slovakia
Tier 4: France, Germany, Slovenia, Hungary, Switzerland
Tier 5: Netherlands

There is also Vatican City but its so tiny. Germany has a split of Catholics, Protestants, and non-religious. I actually find it sad that France has lost much of its Catholic tradition and I wish Germans were a bit more Catholic.

Italy and Slovakia actually have a higher regular attendance than Croatia. Slovakia is 33% and Italy is 31% so slightly higher than Croatia. Spain is only 21% and Lithuania is only 14%.

Dylan
05-02-2015, 04:55 PM
Italy and Slovakia actually have a higher regular attendance than Croatia. Slovakia is 33% and Italy is 31% so slightly higher than Croatia. Spain is only 21% and Lithuania is only 14%.

It's because Catholicism is a huge part of Croatian identity. Not because they are "true believers. The Catholic Church and Croatian identity are completely inseparable.
Their Catholic identity is what separates them from the rest of the former Yugoslavia. And Balkan countries are very keen on separating themselves from one another as much as possible. They are even trying to argue that Serbo-Croatian is not one uniform language, but three different ones.

Sandman
05-02-2015, 04:55 PM
May I ask why Croatia doesn't come to mind?

Sorry. My mistake. Croatia too.

ĮGUIA
05-02-2015, 05:00 PM
According to the 2011 census 81% of the portuguese population is catholic, but younger generations don't care that much about religion

Gooding
05-02-2015, 05:02 PM
It's because Catholicism is a huge part of Croatian identity. Not because they are "true believers. The Catholic Church and Croatian identity are completely inseparable.
Their Catholic identity is what separates them from the rest of the former Yugoslavia. And Balkan countries are very keen on separating themselves from one another as much as possible. They are even trying to argue that Serbo-Croatian is not one uniform language, but three different ones.

You raise an interesting point. I have a fairly close relative who is married to someone who calls himself Croatian, yet only his mother was Croat. His father was a Serb and he hates Serbs with a passion. I suppose his father and his father's side of his family was mean to him, but when I hear him talk about his love for Croatia, it's very heart warming, but his feelings for Serbia are usually followed by " ya bata sutzka" ( whatever the hell that means). I take it that it's an unflattering statement. It's beyond my comprehension how somebody can hate so passionately a people responsible for half of his genome.:confused:

Dylan
05-02-2015, 05:10 PM
You raise an interesting point. I have a fairly close relative who is married to someone who calls himself Croatian, yet only his mother was Croat. His father was a Serb and he hates Serbs with a passion. I suppose his father and his father's side of his family was mean to him, but when I hear him talk about his love for Croatia, it's very heart warming, but his feelings for Serbia are usually followed by " ya bata sutzka" ( whatever the hell that means). I take it that it's an unflattering statement. It's beyond my comprehension how somebody can hate so passionately a people responsible for half of his genome.:confused:

Well to put it this way. Imagine if you were an African-American slave. You're mother was also an African American slave. Your father however, was the white slave owner who raped her. This is more extreme, but I think it shows how one can have hatred/disgust/shame at half their identity.

Gooding
05-02-2015, 05:13 PM
Well to put it this way. Imagine if you were an African-American slave. You're mother was also an African American slave. Your father however, was the white slave owner who raped her. This is more extreme, but I think it shows how one can have hatred/disgust/shame at half their identity.

I see what you mean. Point taken, thank you, Dylan. I guess to take it a step further, when you have that kind of parentage, neither side may fully trust and accept you. One side may be far more viciously hostile than the other in their rejection and that, too, might account for those feelings.

Prism
05-02-2015, 05:22 PM
I wouldn't say Croatia is in tier 1. I agree with grace.

Dylan
05-02-2015, 05:23 PM
I wouldn't say Croatia is in tier 1. I agree with grace.

"are the most Catholic or have their Catholic faith as a large aspect of their identity?"
They aren't the truest believers, but being nominally Catholic is a huge part of their identity. I see you're Balkan, so you probably know this better than me.

Prism
05-02-2015, 05:29 PM
"are the most Catholic or have their Catholic faith as a large aspect of their identity?"
They aren't the truest believers, but being nominally Catholic is a huge part of their identity. I see you're Balkan, so you probably know this better than me.

:picard1:
Look who your talking too. Of course I know this same as every ex - yugo country. they identify as Catholics but don't attend church frequently. But for me one is religious when she/he attends church and prays frequently. And that's what this thread is about real Catholics and not just the ones who claim their Catholic just because of ifentity but the ones who actually go to church and are devoted Catholics .

Majority speaking I'm generalizing here

StormBringer
05-02-2015, 05:32 PM
You raise an interesting point. I have a fairly close relative who is married to someone who calls himself Croatian, yet only his mother was Croat. His father was a Serb and he hates Serbs with a passion. I suppose his father and his father's side of his family was mean to him, but when I hear him talk about his love for Croatia, it's very heart warming, but his feelings for Serbia are usually followed by " ya bata sutzka" ( whatever the hell that means). I take it that it's an unflattering statement. It's beyond my comprehension how somebody can hate so passionately a people responsible for half of his genome.:confused:

Hid dad probably divorced his mom?
People who are half-half are usually even more nationalistic than "pure" ones, probably to make up for the lack of said "purity".
Usually it swings on the father's side, unless he's away.

Gooding
05-02-2015, 05:34 PM
Hid dad probably divorced his mom?
People who are half-half are usually even more nationalistic than "pure" ones, probably to make up for the lack of said "purity".
Usually it swings on the father's side, unless he's away.

I think things didn't work out. I understand that " old man Visnick" wasn't the most pleasant person to be around..

Dylan
05-02-2015, 05:34 PM
:picard1:
Look who your talking too. Of course I know this same as every ex - yugo country they identify as Catholics but don't attend church frequently. But for me one is religious when she/he attends church and prays frequently. And that's what this thread is about real Catholics and not just the ones who claim their Catholic just because of ifentity but that actually go to church and are devoted Catholics .

Majority speaking I'm generalizing here

I'm literally quoting what the thread is about. The OP said "which countries are the most Catholic or have their Catholic faith as a large aspect of their identity?""
This thread isn't exclusively about whether or not someone is religious by your standards. It's about what they identify with too. That's not up for argument. He literally wrote that as the half the reason for this thread.

"look who you're talking to" - bud I already mentioned that you're balkan and should know this.

Seeing as your reading comprehension abilities are so low that you ignored half what i wrote and half the purpose of the thread, you should be face palming over yourself. But this is your second language, so I give you some credit. Plus we all have bad days, its clear your brain is being a bit foggy on you. I'd read something a few times over before acting so passive aggressive so you don't make a fool out of yourself.

The thread is not just about real catholics. It's half about them and half about what less devout catholics identify with. It's been explicitly stated by the OP. This response from you is laughable. I'm embarrassed for you.

Okirus
05-02-2015, 05:41 PM
Poland, Ireland and Croatia.

Jana
05-02-2015, 05:47 PM
It's because Catholicism is a huge part of Croatian identity. Not because they are "true believers. The Catholic Church and Croatian identity are completely inseparable.
Their Catholic identity is what separates them from the rest of the former Yugoslavia. And Balkan countries are very keen on separating themselves from one another as much as possible. They are even trying to argue that Serbo-Croatian is not one uniform language, but three different ones.

Croatia had no contact nor shared history with other Balkan counties until 1918, so it is natural to want to distance itself from culturally alien nations and turn to more natural surroundings. Only contact was trough BiH Croats, and of course we do no want to be part of something we never identified with. I say this as someone who has part ancestry from Bosnia, real Balkan country. Smart person sees which is beneficial from his/her country, and Balkan for Croatia is not. that is why our constitution forbids any future ideas of Balkan Associations. For most of Croats Balkan is a negative Constatation that was forced upon us with very bad results. Hehe. About Catolicism, Croatia is very Catholic country, for European standards. people who visited Poland told me they are only place that is more Catholic than us, meaning more people attend church, especially the young. for other countries I am not sure if they are more real belivers or not, because in Europe many people identify as Catholic mostly to honor their tradition.
And Croatian identity is connected trough our early Kingdom and name, which was older than of majority of European nations. So I wouldnt say Catholicism is only part that distances us from other South Slavs , cecause that would be Yugo propaganda. salut :D

Prism
05-02-2015, 06:10 PM
I'm literally quoting what the thread is about. The OP said "which countries are the most Catholic or have their Catholic faith as a large aspect of their identity?""
This thread isn't exclusively about whether or not someone is religious by your standards. It's about what they identify with too. That's not up for argument. He literally wrote that as the half the reason for this thread.

"look who you're talking to" - bud I already mentioned that you're balkan and should know this.


Seeing as your reading comprehension abilities are so low that you ignored half what i wrote and half the purpose of the thread, you should be face palming over yourself. But this is your second language, so I give you some credit. Plus we all have bad days, its clear your brain is being a bit foggy on you. I'd read something a few times over before acting so passive aggressive so you don't make a fool out of yourself.

The thread is not just about real catholics. It's half about them and half about what less devout catholics identify with. It's been explicitly stated by the OP. This response from you is laughable. I'm embarrassed for you.

First of all, yes it's true I didn't fully read your post and after I posted I regretted it afterwards because you clearly stated I know more than you about this topic but I was too lazy to edit it. It's a bad habit It has nothing to do with my language barrier.

English is not my second language but third after Albanian and Croatian , then Spanish and I also speak some German.

Don't be embarrassed for me I saw this thread had strayed a bit off topic like all threads do and it became more about Croats and where they stand on religion and I simply replied to you about this sub topic.

I don't always read the beginning post of a thread because they always divert sometimes less sometimes more in this case less. And all I do is read the last posts and I post according to the topic at the moment.

Prism
05-02-2015, 06:23 PM
Croatia had no contact nor shared history with other Balkan counties until 1918, so it is natural to want to distance itself from culturally alien nations and turn to more natural surroundings. Only contact was trough BiH Croats, and of course we do no want to be part of something we never identified with. I say this as someone who has part ancestry from Bosnia, real Balkan country. Smart person sees which is beneficial from his/her country, and Balkan for Croatia is not. that is why our constitution forbids any future ideas of Balkan Associations. For most of Croats Balkan is a negative Constatation that was forced upon us with very bad results.

Croatia, well the south is completely Balkan , I am not trying to embarrass you or anything . But I have a friend Polish guy who went to croatia and said it was nothing but the Balkans the meat was mostly lamb, and all the other food he listed was Balkan , plus he said some people and himself came across an old woman who pulled out a shotgun yes no joke and told them to get away from her property. That doesn't happen everywhere. Also he says it looked like montengro. This is exactly what he said 100% true I am not making any of this up.

I honestly know nothing of north Croatia ( guessing it's like Slovenia ) but I suppose it's different but the south it's balkan for sure.

Dylan
05-02-2015, 06:52 PM
Croatia had no contact nor shared history with other Balkan counties until 1918, so it is natural to want to distance itself from culturally alien nations and turn to more natural surroundings. Only contact was trough BiH Croats, and of course we do no want to be part of something we never identified with. I say this as someone who has part ancestry from Bosnia, real Balkan country. Smart person sees which is beneficial from his/her country, and Balkan for Croatia is not. that is why our constitution forbids any future ideas of Balkan Associations. For most of Croats Balkan is a negative Constatation that was forced upon us with very bad results. Hehe. About Catolicism, Croatia is very Catholic country, for European standards. people who visited Poland told me they are only place that is more Catholic than us, meaning more people attend church, especially the young. for other countries I am not sure if they are more real belivers or not, because in Europe many people identify as Catholic mostly to honor their tradition.
And Croatian identity is connected trough our early Kingdom and name, which was older than of majority of European nations. So I wouldnt say Catholicism is only part that distances us from other South Slavs , cecause that would be Yugo propaganda. salut :D

i didnt say that's what catholicism's only role was, i said that a major part of it was that it was a major part of croatian identity and helped separate them from the rest of the former yugoslavia, so i agree with you :) I wouldn't say Croatia had no contact or shared history with other balkan countries until 1918. Croatia was part of AH empire etc. whereas Serbia was independent, etc. etc. but there was contact.

Dylan
05-02-2015, 06:54 PM
First of all, yes it's true I didn't fully read your post and after I posted I regretted it afterwards because you clearly stated I know more than you about this topic but I was too lazy to edit it. It's a bad habit It has nothing to do with my language barrier.

English is not my second language but third after Albanian and Croatian , then Spanish and I also speak some German.

Don't be embarrassed for me I saw this thread had strayed a bit off topic like all threads do and it became more about Croats and where they stand on religion and I simply replied to you about this sub topic.

I don't always read the beginning post of a thread because they always divert sometimes less sometimes more in this case less. And all I do is read the last posts and I post according to the topic at the moment.

classy response. i was curious to see if you would respond with idotic aggression or if you'd respond more reasonably. good on you. and you're knowledge of languages is wonderful. i'm glad to hear you speak so many.

Insuperable
05-02-2015, 07:14 PM
I think Croatia is similar to the Republic of Ireland as far as population and Malta is tiny. I just didn't find any info on Croatia but they do appear to be a strong Catholic country. Here it says that 30.3% of Croatians attend church weekly so that would make it lower on the list than Poland, Malta and Ireland. I think those 3 have the greatest percentage of population that attend church weekly.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/alex-sakalis/most-catholic-country-in-europe-croatia-and-catholic-church

I agree with you that church attendance is very important factor, but I don't think we should stick with it like it is the ultimate factor since this thread has to do with more than just church attendance from what I could understood. If that still would be the case around 5% of Croats are atheists/agnostics, but the rest declare themselves as Catholic. Many people like myself don't go or very rarely go to church.


Croatia, well the south is completely Balkan , I am not trying to embarrass you or anything . But I have a friend Polish guy who went to croatia and said it was nothing but the Balkans the meat was mostly lamb, and all the other food he listed was Balkan , plus he said some people and himself came across an old woman who pulled out a shotgun yes no joke and told them to get away from her property. That doesn't happen everywhere. Also he says it looked like montengro. This is exactly what he said 100% true I am not making any of this up.

I honestly know nothing of north Croatia ( guessing it's like Slovenia ) but I suppose it's different but the south it's balkan for sure.

Granny with a shotgun.:rolleyes: The south is South European with Balkan (Hinterland). I don't need some guy or you self declared Balkanac, Bosniak-Croat-Albanian mutt, to tell me what it is. Maybe I am delusional, maybe not.

Prism
05-02-2015, 07:24 PM
classy response. i was curious to see if you would respond with idotic aggression or if you'd respond more reasonably. good on you. and you're knowledge of languages is wonderful. i'm glad to hear you speak so many.

Thanks :D . I admit it was my fault I have a very bad tendency to read one sentence and get angry and then just mentally blank out the rest of the post, because of fustration :lol: .

Prism
05-02-2015, 07:26 PM
Don't call me a mutt. I wasn't being insulting and I don't see why you have to be a dickhead to me.

I apparently was wrong about you, you seem to be a wanker just like a lot of people on this forum.

Insuperable
05-02-2015, 07:30 PM
Don't call me a mutt. I wasn't being insulting and I don't see why you have to be a dickhead to me.

I wasn't being a dickhead. You would know when I start being one. I don't see anything wrong with telling you that you are a mutt nor it was my intention to insult you by calling you a mutt. It is an expression people use when someone is a mix of ethnicities.

Prism
05-02-2015, 07:41 PM
I wasn't being a dickhead. You would know when I start being one. I don't see anything wrong with telling you that you are a mutt nor it was my intention to insult you by calling you a mutt. It is an expression people use when someone is a mix of ethnicities.

Ok I'm glad. I just hate hate the word mutt, I would prefer mix not mutt because in Albanian mut means shit so I take it very personally.

I may be ignorant about the whole Croatia Balkan thing but the way I see it Slovenia is no way the Balkans and Croatia is on the crossroads of the Balkans and central europe this is my opinion and I'm not affirming that this is true nor false.

Dylan
05-02-2015, 07:45 PM
Thanks :D . I admit it was my fault I have a very bad tendency to read one sentence and get angry and then just mentally blank out the rest of the post, because of fustration :lol: .

happens to the best of us :)

Insuperable
05-02-2015, 07:48 PM
Ok I'm glad. I just hate hate the word mutt, I would prefer mix not mutt because in Albanian mut means shit so I take it very personally.

Hahaha, I didn't know that (bolded). I also didn't know that you hate the word mutt. Sorry.

Prism
05-02-2015, 07:50 PM
Hahaha, I didn't know that (bolded). I also didn't know that you hate the word mutt. Sorry.


You are forgiven :D you seem like a good guy and a potential friend in real life so nevermind haha. We seem to agree on a lot of things aswell.

barbatus
05-03-2015, 06:33 AM
No one has done more for the Catholicism than Italy and Spain.

This.
Ignatius of Loyola is a good example of a Spaniard who had a big impact on the Catholic faith

Odin
04-29-2018, 10:35 PM
Irish and Poles.