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Azeri Bozkurt
05-02-2015, 08:33 PM
The term "Iranian Turks" or "Turkic people in Iran" can apply to either of the following:

Afshar tribe
Baharlu
Iranian Azerbaijanis
Iranian Turkmen
Iranian Kazakhs
Khalaj people
Khorasani Turks
Qashqai people
Shahsevens
Turkish people in Iran

http://i.imgur.com/7G8ZSuo.jpg



The Azerbaijani Turks established their first united empire in 1501 as the Great King Ismail Khatai declared the Safavid Empire in Tabriz in the year of 1505. The Safavid were replaced by Nadir Shah Avshar and created the Avshars Dynasty.

The Gajar (Qajar) dynasty was the last of the Turkish dynasties to rule Persia. Turkic states, such as the Gajar state, strongly affected the history of modern Azerbaijan. The Gajar dynasty ruled most parts of present day Iran, including Southern Azerbaijan, 1794-1925. During this time only men from the Azerbaijani people could claim right to the throne of the state of Gajar.

The undercurrent dynasty seems to have been to unite all land previously ruled by their ancestors, the moves led to long lasting wars between the Gajars and Russia, as Russia quested to seize Southern Caucasus.

Ultimately, these hostilities led to the division of Azerbaijan into a northern part ruled by Russia and a southern part ruled by the Gajar confederation, as agreed in the treaties of Gulustan (1813) and Turkmenchay (1828). Before the split the Azerbaijani boarders reached from what is today Derbet, the most southern city of Russia, to the province of Hamadan, south west of Tehran. During Russian rule of Northern Azerbaijan its territory decreased significantly, this later became the Republic of Azerbaijan.In 1925 when the Gajar state collapsed, Southern Azerbaijan was annexed into Iran and there was a massive move of non-Azerbaijanis to the cities of Gazvin and Hamadan where more than a half of the population are now of Azerbaijani descent.

The Azerbaijan People’s RepublicOffice Building of the Government of South Azerbaijan in Tabriz. 1945-1946After the Second World War, Southern Azerbaijan became an independent state, the Azerbaijan People’s Republic, was established. During this year of independence, the Turkish language in schools and on radio stations became ingrained and Tabriz was established as an urban and cultural center. Independence, however, again only lasted for a short time, after a year the Soviet Union and Iran again fought bloody battles for the state in a process which killed approximately 35,000 people. After the crushing of the independent state, the Iranian government gathered all Turkish publications published during the republic and burned them in public. All people that had worked or supported the formation of the independent state were persecuted, and led to the movement for Southern Azerbaijani rights underground.

After the so called revolution of 1979 and coming to power of terrorist regime of Persian Iran, assimilation policies were followed and intensified. Turkish Students were taught a foreign language of Persian in the schools. The very existence of Turks in the so called country of Iran was denied.

As everything run by the Persian government, all schools, offices, hospitals, courts, TV and media, and every official and unofficial business were forcibly done in foreign language of Persian. South Azerbaijani economy is plundered by the Iranian terrorist regime, literally taking away all underground and above ground riches and leaving a desperate and poor situation for people, pushing the working forces out of South Azerbaijan to look for pity jobs in Persian areas. Over 70% of non-Persian population of so called Iran is deprived of their basic human rights by Persian terrorist regime. With the exception of Persian language, all other languages are banned and their territories occupied.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g34P2D0XGBM

Azeri Bozkurt
05-02-2015, 08:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPGugdq7Cvg

StonyArabia
05-02-2015, 08:41 PM
A lot of the Baharlu are Persian speakers. The Qashakis are mixed and even have Arab blood in them.

Azeri Bozkurt
05-02-2015, 08:44 PM
A lot of the Baharlu are Persian speakers. The Qashakis are mixed and even have Arab blood in them.

Only Fars mix with Arabs. Turkic people dont!

Böri
05-02-2015, 08:45 PM
I don't agree Qashqais are mixed. Despite they live South West Iran many seem to have clear physic appearance difference from Persians and look directly similar to Anatolian Turks.

StonyArabia
05-02-2015, 08:46 PM
Only Fars mix with Arabs. Turkic people dont!

That's not true the Qashakis are confederation of tribes, some Persians, Lurs and Arabs joined them. There is sub-division among them called Arabs, indicating Arab roots.

Azeri Bozkurt
05-02-2015, 08:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyKr6LX7uxA

Khoda biamorzadet heif heif!

StonyArabia
05-02-2015, 08:54 PM
I don't agree Qashqais are mixed. Despite they live South West Iran many seem to have clear physic appearance difference from Persians and look directly similar to Anatolian Turks.

Qashaqais don't look much different from Lurs or Bakhtaris. This is to be expected as they live in the same area, there is some overlap between Iranians and Turks both in phenotype and genetics to an extent.

Azeri Bozkurt
05-02-2015, 09:00 PM
I don't agree Qashqais are mixed. Despite they live South West Iran many seem to have clear physic appearance difference from Persians and look directly similar to Anatolian Turks.

Yeah, some Arabian and Lur nomads joined them. It is a natural process that mountain nomads share the landscapes. Anyway the Qashqais are of course Turk people.

Azeri Bozkurt
05-02-2015, 09:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_kxXBNFQLc

Böri
05-02-2015, 09:14 PM
Qashaqais don't look much different from Lurs or Bakhtaris. This is to be expected as they live in the same area, there is some overlap between Iranians and Turks both in phenotype and genetics to an extent.

With so many Turks there it's normal. Hopefully they don't get assimilated.

zarzian
05-07-2015, 01:45 PM
With so many Turks there it's normal. Hopefully they don't get assimilated.

LOL , they are fully Iranic blood with Torkish language. Keep dreaming

Qara
05-08-2015, 09:35 AM
I don't agree Qashqais are mixed. Despite they live South West Iran many seem to have clear physic appearance difference from Persians and look directly similar to Anatolian Turks.

Another Durkish crap.
http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae139/finalmaster0/Facepalm-jesus-facepalm-facepalm1.jpg
Qashqai is a tribal confederation which includes Azeri, Kurdish, Luri-Bakhtiari, Persian and Arab nomadic Qizilbash tribes. Their Qizilbash Azeri ancestors were moved by Shah Ismail from Ardebil to Persian Gulf and Southern Zagros against Portuguese attacks. They immigrants were mixed with native Kurdish, Lori, Arab and Persian nomadic tribes and then they have created a tribal confederation. What is their relationship to the your Anatolian Durks?

Don't tell bragging. Read these articles.

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/qasqai-tribal-confederacy-i

Like most present-day tribal confederacies in Persia, the Il-e Qašqā ʾi is a conglomeration of clans of different ethnic origins, Lori, Kurdish, Arab and Turkic.


Soon after, our ancestors established themselves on the slopes of the Caucasus. We are descendants of the "Tribe of the Ak Koyunlu" the "Tribe of the White Sheep" famed for being the only tribe in history capable of inflicting a defeat on Tamerlane. For centuries we dwelt on the lands surrounding Ardebil, but, in the first half of the sixteenth century we settled in southern Persia, Shah Ismail having asked our warriors to defend this part of the country against the intrusions of the Portuguese. Thus, our Tribes came to the Province of Fars, near the Persian Gulf, and are still only separated from it by a ridge of mountains, the Makran.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qashqai_people

Azerbaijani immigrants + Kurds + Lurs + Arabs + Persians = Qashqai tribal confederation. They actually is a summary of Iran

Kamal900
05-08-2015, 11:12 AM
Another Durkish crap.
http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae139/finalmaster0/Facepalm-jesus-facepalm-facepalm1.jpg
Qashqai is a tribal confederation which includes Azeri, Kurdish, Luri-Bakhtiari, Persian and Arab nomadic Qizilbash tribes. Their Qizilbash Azeri ancestors were moved by Shah Ismail from Ardebil to Persian Gulf and Southern Zagros against Portuguese attacks. They immigrants were mixed with native Kurdish, Lori, Arab and Persian nomadic tribes and then they have created a tribal confederation. What is their relationship to the your Anatolian Durks?

Don't tell bragging. Read these articles.

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/qasqai-tribal-confederacy-i



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qashqai_people

Azerbaijani immigrants + Kurds + Lurs + Arabs + Persians = Qashqai tribal confederation. They actually is a summary of Iran

Well said. These pan-Turanist Turks are a disgrace.

Pahli
05-08-2015, 11:38 AM
With so many Turks there it's normal. Hopefully they don't get assimilated.

"So many" ... The Kurds make out a bigger minority in Turkey than all these "Turks" in Iran :D

Turkminator
05-17-2015, 10:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gqFbkaI8ec

Kyp
03-21-2020, 05:30 PM
Shahsevan and most Afshars are part of the South Azerbaijani people.
Afshar turkic language is a dialect of South Azerbaijani.

https://i.imgur.com/8EdMZ4A.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CM5w8uw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/akO5Au5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SoXCM9z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nxMrfCG.png
https://i.imgur.com/JyISKPf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/E6ORpsr.jpg

Sora
03-21-2020, 06:24 PM
Are you guys joke? Someone told anti-Turk discourses about Turks although he's Turkic(!), someone told Kurds in Turkey are more than Turks in Iran, someone curses to Persians bla bla bla!

All are so cringe! You guys don't know how to be normal?

Babak
03-21-2020, 06:46 PM
Are you guys joke? Someone told anti-Turk discourses about Turks although he's Turkic(!), someone told Kurds in Turkey are more than Turks in Iran, someone curses to Persians bla bla bla!

All are so cringe! You guys don't know how to be normal?

Apparently nobody in this forum knows how to be normal.