I Prefer Indian And Pakistani Women, Does That Make Me A Race Mixer?

[MagnusAurelius]

I don't think it does, a minority but still many Indian/Pakitani people are 70-80% Caucasian genetically. I would estimate that 20% of India is 70-80% Caucasian genetically and 5% are more than 80% Caucasian. In Pakistan due to Pathans and Punjabis being the top 2 most populous ethnic groups, I would estimate 40% of them are 70-80% Caucasian genetically and 5% are more then that. Still, my estimates could be wrong.

I think a true race mixture would be someone who has kids with an Asian or Black person, like a Caucasian with one of those races. North Africans and Middle Eastern people are all Caucasian like Europeans, some Indians and Pakistani's are also so I don't consider it race mixing. I am hoping to find an Indian or Pakistani woman who is 70-80% Caucasian genetically, perhaps more but that would be harder to find.

Are there any DNA testing sites that actually have an admixture analysis? Something like this.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

I think 23andme is the closest one since it says what regions of the world your ancestry comes from, the problem is on 23andme, the category for people of the Indian Sub-continent is "South Asian", it doesn't specify how much ANI and ASI ancestry they have.

"One, the "Ancestral North Indians" (ANI), is genetically close to Middle Easterners, Central Asians, and Europeans, whereas the other, the "Ancestral South Indians" (ASI), is as distinct from ANI and East Asians as they are from each other."

http://racialreality.blogspot.se/2012/12/racial-composition-and-history-of-india.html

[Mortimer]

are you sardiniaatlantis are you for real? or just joking? whether its race mixing or not just go for your preferences, most would consider it race mixing i can tell you

[N1019]

I don't care if you're a race mixer... Indian and Pakistani girls can be very beautiful but watch out, because they can also be very feisty lol... Persian and Afghan girls are similar in that respect

[Felix Volkbein]

Gross:

http://www.returnofkings.com/51395/5-reasons-why-you-should-not-date-indian-girls

[MagnusAurelius]

I don't care if most people think we would be an inter-racial couple , I just want facts. I know Indians/Pakistanis are a melting pot but there are some very pure Caucasian people in these nations so I am sure many should be at least 70-80% Caucasian genetically. If you look at a genetic distance map, many South Asian ethnic groups cluster closer to Europeans/Middle Eastern people while Asian and Black ethnic groups are significantly far away from the Caucasian section.

https://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/global-genetic-distances-map.jpg

[jatt]

Europeans R the best n purest. Europeans r God. ThY r all caucasoid

[jatt]

All Indian women die for All Caucasoid Europeans. Aryan Indians no good.

[MagnusAurelius]

If only this beautiful Jatt Punjabi girl I communicate with on Skype was moving to Canada, we really like each other but we can never be together. She is 23 and moving to USA on a student visa and also applying for permanent residence, she has a lot of family in Fremont, California. I will probably find a Pakistani or Indian girl before she finishes school, she will be going to University in USA next September and will be finished her Bachelors in April 2020. Well, at least she prefers white guys, she tells me she is really excited to be in USA so she can meet and date white guys, lucky for her, her parents are open minded and not like stereotypical closed minded/really traditional/conservative Indian people.


http://i.imgur.com/GdZFIkM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9YvNToZ.jpg

[MagnusAurelius]

Europeans R the best n purest. Europeans r God. ThY r all caucasoid


Haha, not true. All Europeans except for Finnish/Russians are genetically 97-100% Caucasian depending on the person. Caucasian Russian and Finns, not counting their native Asiatic minority are all 80-100% Caucasian depending on the person, some regions have Native Asian admixture that has been absorbed into the Caucasian majority, I think areas with higher non-Caucasian mixture in the 10-15% range is around Leningrad and other areas around Russia. Some Asian and many black ethnic groups (blacks in Africa) are more racially pure. Han Chinese are genetically proven to be 99-100% Asian so they are more pure, even more so for many Negroid ethnic groups in West and Central Africa who are all 100% Negroid.

[Óttar]

I love Indian women. I must say this however; I dated a half-Indian girl and she was absolutely insane. Put a serious cramp in my style for many years. Awful.

[MagnusAurelius]

I love Indian women. I must say this however; I dated a half-Indian girl and she was absolutely insane. Put a serious cramp in my style for many years. Awful.

Was her mom or dad Indian? Bet it was the dad.

[Óttar]

Was her mom or dad Indian? Bet it was the dad.

Nope. Mom from Kerala, dad an Anglo-American psychiatrist who, according to her, thought he was a manifestation of the god Shiva. They took LSD together. Yep. Though to be fair according to Hindu metaphysics everything is Shiva, so maybe he was speaking figuratively.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

It does, and who cares? I prefer Mexican women. Fuck me right?

[jatt]

Well I lost virginity to a Canadian Italian bank teller mother of two when I was still a student. So Best of luck but don't get too serious

[DarknessInside]

I love Indian women. I must say this however; I dated a half-Indian girl and she was absolutely insane. Put a serious cramp in my style for many years. Awful.

Try MENA.

[jatt]

Haha, not true. All Europeans except for Finnish/Russians are genetically 97-100% Caucasian depending on the person. Caucasian Russian and Finns, not counting their native Asiatic minority are all 80-100% Caucasian depending on the person, some regions have Native Asian admixture that has been absorbed into the Caucasian majority, I think areas with higher non-Caucasian mixture in the 10-15% range is around Leningrad and other areas around Russia. Some Asian and many black ethnic groups (blacks in Africa) are more racially pure. Han Chinese are genetically proven to be 99-100% Asian so they are more pure, even more so for many Negroid ethnic groups in West and Central Africa who are all 100% Negroid. here is the problem..they using component found in European population as base Caucasoid component. this is the reason anamolies happen like European are almost 100 % Caucasoid when in real world they are the most open to interracial marraiges. even turkmenistanis who look mongoloid are 90% Caucasoid by pseudo genetics.. if they are so much Caucasoid why they don't look it.. they say genotype doest equal to pheno which doest sound right..whats the purpose of being 90% Caucasoid genetically if a person look 100% mongoloid..n of course the further you move from Europe less the European component falsely denoted as Caucasoid component.. we indian don't believe in these biased pseudo genetics

[jatt]

If only this beautiful Jatt Punjabi girl I communicate with on Skype was moving to Canada, we really like each other but we can never be together. She is 23 and moving to USA on a student visa and also applying for permanent residence, she has a lot of family in Fremont, California. I will probably find a Pakistani or Indian girl before she finishes school, she will be going to University in USA next September and will be finished her Bachelors in April 2020. Well, at least she prefers white guys, she tells me she is really excited to be in USA so she can meet and date white guys, lucky for her, her parents are open minded and not like stereotypical closed minded/really traditional/conservative Indian people.



http://i.imgur.com/GdZFIkM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9YvNToZ.jpg

there are plenty of jatt ladies in Canada.. where in Canada are you from

[King Solomon]

here is the problem..they using component found in European population as base Caucasoid component. this is the reason anamolies happen like European are almost 100 % Caucasoid when in real world they are the most open to interracial marraiges. even turkmenistanis who look mongoloid are 90% Caucasoid by pseudo genetics.. if they are so much Caucasoid why they don't look it.. they say genotype doest equal to pheno which doest sound right..whats the purpose of being 90% Caucasoid genetically if a person look 100% mongoloid..n of course the further you move from Europe less the European component falsely denoted as Caucasoid component.. we indian don't believe in these biased pseudo genetics

Turkmens are not fully Mongoloid nor are they 90% west eurasuan.

[Mortimer]

i like indian women too but i have a (part) indian background so it wouldnt be interracial, only if you are very strict in theory then maybe but then again there could be a indian girl with part european admixture (half indian etc.) who would match me. there is this indian girl from ratedesi i like but she didnt liked me.

she is punjabi jatt

[Ultra]

It's not race-mixing if you are Italian.

[MagnusAurelius]

It's not race-mixing if you are Italian.

HAHAHA, another fool who thinks Italians are mixed, sorry, wrong, all Italians are proven to be 97-100% Caucasian genetically.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

[OnceLord]

Let's review some facts;

You = Italian (therefore Europid/'pure' Caucasoid.. unless you have a Kwami in the woodpile somewhere LoL)

Indians and Pakilanders = Subcontinentals (even the 'purest' Caucasoid looking ones have some native Veddoid type ancestry, it's all there in their genetics like a bad stench they can't breed out, LoL)

So really, Subcontinentals are just an ancient form of 'mulatto' type group.. Sort of like you having it on with a half Irish half African gal..

In conclusion you are obv a race mixer.

Your purity hopes ---> reality

//oncelord

[MagnusAurelius]

here is the problem..they using component found in European population as base Caucasoid component. this is the reason anamolies happen like European are almost 100 % Caucasoid when in real world they are the most open to interracial marraiges. even turkmenistanis who look mongoloid are 90% Caucasoid by pseudo genetics.. if they are so much Caucasoid why they don't look it.. they say genotype doest equal to pheno which doest sound right..whats the purpose of being 90% Caucasoid genetically if a person look 100% mongoloid..n of course the further you move from Europe less the European component falsely denoted as Caucasoid component.. we indian don't believe in these biased pseudo genetics

It isn't pseudo genetics, there are clearly 3 main races on this planet and each race has their own unique genetic make up so it is possible to determine which race is which with an autosomal admixture analysis.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

Ha, you say that Europeans are more open to inter-racial unions, technically speaking every indian union is inter racial if it isn't between the more racially pure Indian/Pakistanis who are a minority. You people were open to inter racial unions far before Europeans ever were, racially pure Caucasians migrated into the Indian sub continent around 10,000 BCE and mixed with the primitive Australoid natives after they brought them civilization. These Caucasians started the great indus valley civilization and came from the Armenian highlands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australoid_race

In 1500BC, the Indo Aryans migrated and took over the Indus Valley Civilization and were the founders of every civilization on the indian sub continent after that. They are the ones who brought the hindu vedas and introduced the caste system which effectively limited the race mixing which is why some Desi people look very Caucasian today.

By the time the Indo-Aryans came , the majority of the Indian Sub continent was mixed race and looked like the Melanid types on this phenotype chart I edited.

http://i.imgur.com/C4TVzeZ.jpg


The original Caucasian people who migrated into the Indian Sub continent looked like the Armenoids on here. The Indo-Aryans looked like the Irano-Afghans on here.

http://i.imgur.com/ZFQQJmF.jpg

[OnceLord]

In case you are unaware Magnus, an obscenely large number of Indian anthro posters seem to have the same sort of 'centric illness' as Middle Eastern people like Iranians or Turks do when it comes to things regarding 'purity' or 'Aryans'. A very stable pattern over the years for many of them (more so than in other groups) to stake the claim that 'all results are biased to Euros' as if computer software is only programmed to keep quantifying Europeans as a closer source of half the things that define them as peoples..

Half these posters must have been whipped into a psychotic frenzy when the Yamna remains basically came out as R1b East Euros.. lmao

[MagnusAurelius]

In case you are unaware Magnus, an obscenely large number of Indian anthro posters seem to have the same sort of 'centric illness' as Middle Eastern people like Iranians or Turks do when it comes to things regarding 'purity' or 'Aryans'. A very stable pattern over the years for many of them (more so than in other groups) to stake the claim that 'all results are biased to Euros' as if computer software is only programmed to keep quantifying Europeans as a closer source of half the things that define them as peoples..

Half these posters must have been whipped into a psychotic frenzy when the Yamna remains basically came out as R1b East Euros.. lmao

Yes I have seen other Indians say similar things before, still, the Indo-Aryan invasion theory has been disproved but I don't believe in the indigenous Aryan theory on the Indian Subcontinent, it is clear the sanskript launguage appeared in India during a certain time, they obviously migrated there like the original Caucasian people did.

[MagnusAurelius]

there are plenty of jatt ladies in Canada.. where in Canada are you from

Don't know if I wanna say, I have been with 10 Desi females sexually and 5 non-Desi girls and I am 26. 5 of those Desi girls were Punjabi and 3 of the Punjabis were Jatt, you probably have relatives in Canada and I bet you get angry if you see Desi girls with non-Desi men, especially if they are Punjabis/Jatt.

[MagnusAurelius]

Well I lost virginity to a Canadian Italian bank teller mother of two when I was still a student. So Best of luck but don't get too serious

I get the feeling you made this up because I posted pictures of a Punjabi Jatt girl who is moving to USA and prefers white guys. I notice Desi people are probably the most closed minded/traditional and conservative people out of every non-European minority in North America. The men are also the most easily angered if their women get with non-Desi men. I am not obsessed with being Italian nor am I obsessed with my culture like Indian people are, you are proof of this.


"Jatt Pride is in my Mind , Jatt Blood is in my Kind,
So Step Aside and Lemme Through, Cuz itz But About Jattz Crew,
Jatt Love is all Around,
For My Fellow Jattz, Never Let me Down,
Show ur Pride and Say it True, Cuz Jatt Blood Flows Thru You!"

I really don't know what you people have to be proud of. Your home countries are undeveloped crap holes and China is far surpassing India as a Super power though that doesn't matter much since the New World Elite run Western Civilization just as they run the world.

I mean, your very culture/civilization was given to you by racially pure Caucasian people so in reality, you people have no culture/civilization native to your homeland, those who brought you that came from outside the Indian sub-continent from Central Asia/Armenian highlands and areas close to Iran. Desi people today are only the mixed race remnants and lesser mixed race remnants of these people. The original people who brought the great civilizations and cultures to the Indian sub continent are genetically even closer too European and Middle Eastern people than the more racially pure Desi people even are. They are also genetically closest to Iranian Persians and some Armenian people today.

[Shqipez]

Astaghfirullah!

[Mortimer]

so this thread was to call indians as mullatos and say they have nothing to be proud of? and i was deluded to think you really like indian women

[Mortimer]

I mean, your very culture/civilization was given to you by racially pure Caucasian people so in reality, you people have no culture/civilization native to your homeland, those who brought you that came from outside the Indian sub-continent from Central Asia/Armenian highlands and areas close to Iran. Desi people today are only the mixed race remnants and lesser mixed race remnants of these people. The original people who brought the great civilizations and cultures to the Indian sub continent are genetically even closer too European and Middle Eastern people than the more racially pure Desi people even are. They are also genetically closest to Iranian Persians and some Armenian people today.

all people are from outside in india, the first humans arrived in 50.000 BC what you say is stupid and many italians look like arabs and hispanics, i dont believe in caucasoid as a race, you guys are mixed race to me yourself

[Mortimer]

I get the feeling you made this up because I posted pictures of a Punjabi Jatt girl who is moving to USA and prefers white guys. I notice Desi people are probably the most closed minded/traditional and conservative people out of every non-European minority in North America. The men are also the most easily angered if their women get with non-Desi men. I am not obsessed with being Italian nor am I obsessed with my culture like Indian people are, you are proof of this.






so you want to fuck a indian woman but dont want jatt to have fucked a italian girl? hypocrite

[Mortimer]

In case you are unaware Magnus, an obscenely large number of Indian anthro posters seem to have the same sort of 'centric illness' as Middle Eastern people like Iranians or Turks do when it comes to things regarding 'purity' or 'Aryans'. A very stable pattern over the years for many of them (more so than in other groups) to stake the claim that 'all results are biased to Euros' as if computer software is only programmed to keep quantifying Europeans as a closer source of half the things that define them as peoples..

Half these posters must have been whipped into a psychotic frenzy when the Yamna remains basically came out as R1b East Euros.. lmao

they yamna remains came out as half east euro half pashtun and they had dark pigmentation. what you say is stupid. and its even more stupid that there are only 3 races on earth when there is so much human diversity, you can set the Ks how you want you can also have two races (africa and out of africa) because all out of africa form one cluster compared to africans

[Mortimer]

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

im sure this has nothing to do with physical classifications but rather with genetic affinities towards populations. on 23andme a australoid was 80% asian (when there were 3 Populations, Asian African European) does that mean he is mostly mongoloid, no. From looking at it im sure, because most southasians show around a quarter yellow (mongoloid) but they dont look like that all so i (even if you think they could be part australoid because of their darker skin etc.) came to conclusion it has nothing to do with classification like was used by old anthropologists.

[MagnusAurelius]

so you want to fuck a indian woman but dont want jatt to have fucked a italian girl? hypocrite

No I don't care if any race fucks Caucasian European women, I only don't like it if its a black guy or half black guy banging one. He obviously made it up in response to me showing the pictures of the Punjabi Jatt girl who likes white guys. Many girls don't like Indian guys, if they do then it is the well spoken educated ones, Indian FOBS like him would have no chance at all with a white girl unless he paid.

[MagnusAurelius]

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

im sure this has nothing to do with physical classifications but rather with genetic affinities towards populations. on 23andme a australoid was 80% asian (when there were 3 Populations, Asian African European) does that mean he is mostly mongoloid, no. From looking at it im sure, because most southasians show around a quarter yellow (mongoloid) but they dont look like that all so i (even if you think they could be part australoid because of their darker skin etc.) came to conclusion it has nothing to do with classification like was used by old anthropologists.

The Punjabis on there are around 60-65% Caucasian, the Pathans are around 75% Caucasian. I don't know what part of the Punjab they got those results from but I know there must be some more pure Punjabis, overall, I still believe at least 20% of modern day India total is 70-80% Caucasian genetically with another 3-5% being more then 80%. As for Pakistan, probably 25-30% are 70-80% Caucasian with 5-8% being more then 80%. Desi people in Western Civilization are mostly from the higher castes so they are more racially pure Desi people and out number the lower caste/Dravidian ones in Western nations which is great.

[Mortimer]

The Punjabis on there are around 60-65% Caucasian, the Pathans are around 75% Caucasian. I don't know what part of the Punjab they got those results from but I know there must be some more pure Punjabis, overall, I still believe at least 20% of modern day India total is 70-80% Caucasian genetically with another 3-5% being more then 80%. As for Pakistan, probably 25-30% are 70-80% Caucasian with 5-8% being more then 80%. Desi people in Western Civilization are mostly from the higher castes so they are more racially pure Desi people and out number the lower caste/Dravidian ones in Western nations which is great.

that is all relative, its a K6 at one more K you can seperate australoid and mongoloid components from southasian cluster then southasians would be 1% mongoloid or oceanian like on 23andme and 99% southasian at more Ks you can seperate european from mideastern then you would see that italians are half mideastern half european like on 23andme. at K3 australoids would be mostly asian and some african and some caucasoid like were on 23andme, its all relative. it is a bit different then old classifications, eventhough there is a overlap i wouldnt say its the same. if you have less enough Ks like two Ks probably southasians would be 80% out of africa and 20% africa should they be classified as quarter african/quadroon? NO. its all relative. indian census divides the subcontinent into 4 morphological types caucasoid, proto-australoid, mongoloid, and negrito. probably the caucasoids are more westerneuroasian shifted though, there is some overlap but it isnt exactly the same like old classifications. and other studies showed that indians are descendt of two populations ANI and ASI and i dont know what ASI were negrito or proto-caucasian or australoid etc. ANI were caucasian. And not 3 like in your study (mongoloid, caucasoid, australoid) so this genetic stuff does tell something but its relative and should be taken with a graint of salt not read too literally.

[Mortimer]

No I don't care if any race fucks Caucasian European women, I only don't like it if its a black guy or half black guy banging one. He obviously made it up in response to me showing the pictures of the Punjabi Jatt girl who likes white guys. Many girls don't like Indian guys, if they do then it is the well spoken educated ones, Indian FOBS like him would have no chance at all with a white girl unless he paid.

I dont mind you having a indian girl at all. Its ok with me.

[jatt]

It isn't pseudo genetics, there are clearly 3 main races on this planet and each race has their own unique genetic make up so it is possible to determine which race is which with an autosomal admixture analysis.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

Ha, you say that Europeans are more open to inter-racial unions, technically speaking every indian union is inter racial if it isn't between the more racially pure Indian/Pakistanis who are a minority. You people were open to inter racial unions far before Europeans ever were, racially pure Caucasians migrated into the Indian sub continent around 10,000 BCE and mixed with the primitive Australoid natives after they brought them civilization. These Caucasians started the great indus valley civilization and came from the Armenian highlands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australoid_race

In 1500BC, the Indo Aryans migrated and took over the Indus Valley Civilization and were the founders of every civilization on the indian sub continent after that. They are the ones who brought the hindu vedas and introduced the caste system which effectively limited the race mixing which is why some Desi people look very Caucasian today.

By the time the Indo-Aryans came , the majority of the Indian Sub continent was mixed race and looked like the Melanid types on this phenotype chart I edited.

http://i.imgur.com/C4TVzeZ.jpg


The original Caucasian people who migrated into the Indian Sub continent looked like the Armenoids on here. The Indo-Aryans looked like the Irano-Afghans on here.

http://i.imgur.com/ZFQQJmF.jpg

dude Indians are Brown Caucasoids - Brown Caucasoids were the original Caucasoids and white people came afterwards due to a genetic defect. To prove what I am saying is the 'Out of India' Theory which a German guy made arguing that Sanskrit, the oldest European language - and all modern European languages derive from that, and that came from India:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_Indi...

Also R1a Haplogroups, the R1a Gene is a gene which exists in both North-West Indians and most Europeans, especially Russians and Serbians, recent genetic tests show that this gene originated in Northern India:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a_(Y-DNA)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a_(Y-DNA)#Origins_and_hypothesized_migrations_of_R1a1a

you keep harping about Italians being 97 % caucasoids. Italy is stone throw away from Africa and middle east. Italian/white women have a fetish for African dudes. at least 10% of your women are dating and having kids with blacks yet you have the audacity to say you are all caucasoids..some things are obvious.. we don't need dna tests to know common sense is good enough..my friend it is 1000 times better to have common sense without education than to have education without common sense..

[jatt]

Don't know if I wanna say, I have been with 10 Desi females sexually and 5 non-Desi girls and I am 26. 5 of those Desi girls were Punjabi and 3 of the Punjabis were Jatt, you probably have relatives in Canada and I bet you get angry if you see Desi girls with non-Desi men, especially if they are Punjabis/Jatt.
you sound so immature.. lol why should I care if some desi women are dating non desis. they don't belong to me lol.. I am not male chavunistic...I live in Canada n regarding the Italian women I had sex with I can give you her phone number . ask her about robby. she works in TDcanada trust branch at raylwason and hurantario. by the way she wast the only white girl I had relations with although she was the first one. anyways I wast trying to score points talking about her. you are way too emotional about Italian women it seems lol one of my room mates had relationship with Italian lady as well.. she use to weep on phone when he left her.. dude women are women. once you fuck women 1000 times you will be a diffenrnt man.

[Longbowman]

Why does it matter?

[Ivan Kramskoï]

You are a race mixer only if you have a mixed race child.

[MagnusAurelius]

all people are from outside in india, the first humans arrived in 50.000 BC what you say is stupid and many italians look like arabs and hispanics, i dont believe in caucasoid as a race, you guys are mixed race to me yourself


Haha, don't believe in a Caucasoid race? There is obviously a Caucasian racial type, this is evident from genetics and racial anthropology.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/racesofman.html

Hahahahaha, many Italians look like "Arabs and Hispanics". Italians are far from mixed race, you are 100% wrong and all genetic evidence proves you wrong. All Italians are 90% of more European genetically. The Italians that have the most ancestry from outside of Europe are Calabrians and Sicilians who average 10% North African/Middle Eastern ancestry, that is not non-Caucasian anyway, it only is if you have asian or black ancestry.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/41342-Italian-Sicilian-and-Greek-23andme-results!


So where are all these Arab native Italians here? This picture is Sicilians in Palermo. There are not many Italians who resemble Arabs and those who do have more than the 10% average MENA ancestry, I have seen some, I have a Calabrian relative who died of old age who resembles an Arab but there are not many, so you are wrong and always will be.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11082597_818428791538572_4394193466156979635_n.jpg ?oh=6266193e20385fa19a8019dd08c9b439&oe=55D2FFCC

Obvious arabs, these are Arabs in Arabia.
http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/files/2011/03/saudi-protest4.jpg

So where are all the Arab looking Italians here? Hahahahaha, your judgments are wrong. Infact, you can clearly see who the non-Italian immigrants are in this picture of a club in North Italy, you can clearly tell who the black people are and the NorthAfrican/MiddleEastern people all have light brown skin.
http://i.imgur.com/EmSVsUV.jpg

[MagnusAurelius]

dude Indians are Brown Caucasoids - Brown Caucasoids were the original Caucasoids and white people came afterwards due to a genetic defect. To prove what I am saying is the 'Out of India' Theory which a German guy made arguing that Sanskrit, the oldest European language - and all modern European languages derive from that, and that came from India:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_Indi...

Also R1a Haplogroups, the R1a Gene is a gene which exists in both North-West Indians and most Europeans, especially Russians and Serbians, recent genetic tests show that this gene originated in Northern India:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a_(Y-DNA)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a_(Y-DNA)#Origins_and_hypothesized_migrations_of_R1a1a

you keep harping about Italians being 97 % caucasoids. Italy is stone throw away from Africa and middle east. Italian/white women have a fetish for African dudes. at least 10% of your women are dating and having kids with blacks yet you have the audacity to say you are all caucasoids..some things are obvious.. we don't need dna tests to know common sense is good enough..my friend it is 1000 times better to have common sense without education than to have education without common sense..

Most white women with black guys are fat, ugly or hot big ass trashy low IQ girls, the type a white man would wanna bang and forget about, not the type that is good for being a wife and being in a relationship with due to being trashy, pathetic and stupid. I went through Brampton and see enough Desi girls with black guys, probably 10% of women 18-30 there are having sex or have had sex with black guys, hahahaha.

You are wrong about White Caucasians were a result of a genetic defect from Caucasians in India. Indians also have the mutated gene which creates fair skin, the only difference is almost all Indians have that gene dormant. The fair skin mutation happened when Caucasians and Asians were spending a lot of time in cold climates where they could not get much vitamin D from the sun, fair skin does not need much vitamin D which is why the mutation happened, it was needed so the people did not get vitamin D deficiency and eventually die out from it.

http://www.livescience.com/41040-skin-color-genes-identified-india.html Indians and Europeans Share 'Light-Skin' Mutation

R1A, most likely did not come from India so you are wrong again. Your links say nothing about it being from India and the map on that link shows it coming from no where near India.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/IE_expansion.png

"The most likely place of origin of R1a is Central Asia or southern Russia/Siberia" http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#origins

The out of India theory is also impossible. Caucasians did not come from India, the fact that the Indo-European sansckript language only appears in India at a certain time is proof of this, those are the people who carried R1A into India. The indigenous aryan theory is a fantasy for indians with an inferiority complex, Australoid's are already proven to be the natives of India. Also, middle eastern Caucasians who branched off from Indo-Europeans and formed their own language pre-date the Indo-European migrations since Sumeria is the oldest civilization in this historical time period.

https://thepeoplingofindia.wordpress.com/tag/australoid-race/

The first racially pure Caucasians came into India around 10,000-7500 BCE, they civilized the primitive australoid people and started the Indus Valley civilization. Over a period of 5000-8000 years they mixed with the natives and spread throughout all of India. By 1500 BCE the racially pure Indo-Aryans migrated into the Indian Sub-continent taking over the Indus Valley Civilization and were the originators of every Indian civilization after that, like Vedic civilization.

[Mortimer]

so what do you try to prove if you like indian woman go ahead and try your luck dont be annoying you dont need anyones approval

[Gaston]

You should marry Butlerking.

[Mortimer]

The first racially pure Caucasians came into India around 10,000-7500 BCE, they civilized the primitive australoid people and started the Indus Valley civilization. Over a period of 5000-8000 years they mixed with the natives and spread throughout all of India. By 1500 BCE the racially pure Indo-Aryans migrated into the Indian Sub-continent taking over the Indus Valley Civilization and were the originators of every Indian civilization after that, like Vedic civilization.

you made that up because we dont know who the indus valley people were really. you try to say indians are primitive and australoid, did you know that australoids lived also in europe and southamerica and that first humans in europe were neanderthals and dark skinned homo sapiens, does that mean anything really. probably the australoids were small pockets of tribes hunter gatherers etc. because you need a city etc. to have a large number of people or at least farming. even if australoids were first humans in india they probably were a few and lived in caves, that they could have such a impact on indian genome as a whole doesnt make sense. australoids also lived in europe and southamerica. indians are what they are since time immemorial. but i dont get what you try to prove, that you are indeed a race mixer by mixing with australoid indians? even if indians were pure caucasoid of the indid type you still would be a race mixer like you would be if you were with a arabid but maybe not since many italians are arabs themselfes.

[Trogdor]

Even if it did, who cares as long as you're happy?

[Highlands]

No..

[Balmung]

I don't really consider an Italian mixing with a middle easterner to be race mixing. Go for it.

[Linebacker]

I prefer jatt women

[jatt]

]Most white women with black guys are fat, ugly or hot big ass trashy low IQ girls, the type a white man would wanna bang and forget about, not the type that is good for being a wife and being in a relationship with due to being trashy, pathetic and stupid. I went through Brampton and see enough Desi girls with black guys, probably 10% of women 18-30 there are having sex or have had sex with black guys, hahahaha.

majority of white women I saw with blacks were hot. couple of days ago i was strolling in park and I saw this druggist looking black dude with hot white girl probably Italian. both of them were showing off a lot. in few years time all Europeans gonna be mulatto. I have never seen indian lady with black ever. only once did I saw indian looking lady with black but she was carribean n not actual indian. carribean Indians are low cast Indians progeny of indentured labourers.

You are wrong about White Caucasians were a result of a genetic defect from Caucasians in India. Indians also have the mutated gene which creates fair skin, the only difference is almost all Indians have that gene dormant. The fair skin mutation happened when Caucasians and Asians were spending a lot of time in cold climates where they could not get much vitamin D from the sun, fair skin does not need much vitamin D which is why the mutation happened, it was needed so the people did not get vitamin D deficiency and eventually die out from it.

at least you acknowledge that fair skin in Europeans is the result of genetic defect which started from 1 individual and spread although it has its own advatages in colder regions of the world.

R1A, most likely did not come from India so you are wrong again. Your links say nothing about it being from India and the map on that link shows it coming from no where near India



"The most likely place of origin of R1a is Central Asia or southern Russia/Siberia" http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#origins

The out of India theory is also impossible. Caucasians did not come from India, the fact that the Indo-European sansckript language only appears in India at a certain time is proof of this, those are the people who carried R1A into India. The indigenous aryan theory is a fantasy for indians with an inferiority complex, Australoid's are already proven to be the natives of India. Also, middle eastern Caucasians who branched off from Indo-Europeans and formed their own language pre-date the Indo-European migrations since Sumeria is the oldest civilization in this historical time period.

The first racially pure Caucasians came into India around 10,000-7500 BCE, they civilized the primitive australoid people and started the Indus Valley civilization. Over a period of 5000-8000 years they mixed with the natives and spread throughout all of India. By 1500 BCE the racially pure Indo-Aryans migrated into the Indian Sub-continent taking over the Indus Valley Civilization and were the originators of every Indian civilization after that, like Vedic civilization.

Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA) which is carried by most Eastern Europeans [Slavs] originated in South Asia, in modern day Indian states Uttar Pradesh and Punjab [ including Pakistan] and Highest frequencies are for it in found in India and Eastern Europe and certain population of Western Europe..

R1a in South Asia has the highest level of diversity of Y-STR haplotype variation within R1a1a compared to Eastern or Western Europe.

Haplogroup R1b (Y-DNA) Which is carried by most Western Europeans originated in Western Asia [ in Anatolia modern day Turkey] and also has high frequencies among certain Central Asian Turkic population and Hazara population of Afghanistan.

Also both DNA are found in low frequencies in Central Asia unlike in South Asia and Eastern Europe. genetics/science is constantly evolving.. remember the earlier cock n bull theories of western scientists propagating western supremacy been debunked. non Europeans are on the rise and soon these stupid theories which westerners make to fell good about themselves be debunked again.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/OIT_map.jpg

spread of indo European languages

[revenger]

It's not race-mixing if you are Italian.

the retarded OP is not even Italian nor he looks it. He claimed:

"Well I am really half Scottish/Irish but I can still say I am full Italian since there was celtic tribes in Nothern Italy".

[MagnusAurelius]

the retarded OP is not even Italian nor he looks it. He claimed:

"Well I am really half Scottish/Irish but I can still say I am full Italian since there was celtic tribes in Nothern Italy".

Doesn't look like it? You are wrong idiot, I am Atlantid/Dinaric, most Italians are Atlanto-Mediteranean/Atlantid/Dinaric or a mix of these 3 Caucasian racial types, more in North and Central Italy. I was also wrong about my ancestry, I thought I was half Scottish/Irish but my mother has many Italians in her family, my mothers mom and dad both have Italian ancestry, her dad is half but I am not sure about her mom. I didn't know the exact number of people or the exact amount of Italian ancestry on her side when I said this so I just said I was half Scottish/Irish. After going through the family tree on her side I have found out that I am really 70% Italian and 30% Scottish/Irish.

The majority of Italians are Atlanto-Mediteranean/Dinaric and at least 70% of them total are this racial type. You can see many of them in these pictures.

http://www.bringitusa.com/italy/blog/images/Team_Booster_Party.jpg

http://www.bringitusa.com/italy/blog/images/Frittella.jpg

Here are some Atlanto Mediterranean Italian men who resemble me.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2d9tgfb.jpg

http://www.datingskillsreview.com/images/stories/jreviews/1354_Janka2_1280196966.jpg

Italian crowd, clearly many Dinarics/Atlantomeds in the crowd.

http://www.blitzquotidiano.it/wp/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/small_110213-173823_mi130211cro_0051.jpg

[MagnusAurelius]

I don't really consider an Italian mixing with a middle easterner to be race mixing. Go for it.

Germanics mixing with them would not be race mixing either.

[MagnusAurelius]

you made that up because we dont know who the indus valley people were really. you try to say indians are primitive and australoid, did you know that australoids lived also in europe and southamerica and that first humans in europe were neanderthals and dark skinned homo sapiens, does that mean anything really. probably the australoids were small pockets of tribes hunter gatherers etc. because you need a city etc. to have a large number of people or at least farming. even if australoids were first humans in india they probably were a few and lived in caves, that they could have such a impact on indian genome as a whole doesnt make sense. australoids also lived in europe and southamerica. indians are what they are since time immemorial. but i dont get what you try to prove, that you are indeed a race mixer by mixing with australoid indians? even if indians were pure caucasoid of the indid type you still would be a race mixer like you would be if you were with a arabid but maybe not since many italians are arabs themselfes.


Hahahahahaha, this guy is delusional, I just proved in a previous post that most Italians do not look like Arabs and he still says "many italians are arabs". Also, it would not be race mixing since genetics proves all Arabs are mostly Caucasian in the 90-95% range so keep it up with your ignorant delusions since genetics will always prove you wrong.

Even the Italians with the most MENA ancestry are not mostly MENA themselves since the average MENA ancestry in Calabria and Sicily is 10%. Get a clue or keep making things up.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/41342-Italian-Sicilian-and-Greek-23andme-results!

[Balmung]

Germanics mixing with them would not be race mixing either.

I consider Germanics mixing with middle easterners to be race mixing, yes.

[MagnusAurelius]

]Most white women with black guys are fat, ugly or hot big ass trashy low IQ girls, the type a white man would wanna bang and forget about, not the type that is good for being a wife and being in a relationship with due to being trashy, pathetic and stupid. I went through Brampton and see enough Desi girls with black guys, probably 10% of women 18-30 there are having sex or have had sex with black guys, hahahaha.

majority of white women I saw with blacks were hot. couple of days ago i was strolling in park and I saw this druggist looking black dude with hot white girl probably Italian. both of them were showing off a lot. in few years time all Europeans gonna be mulatto. I have never seen indian lady with black ever. only once did I saw indian looking lady with black but she was carribean n not actual indian. carribean Indians are low cast Indians progeny of indentured labourers.

You are wrong about White Caucasians were a result of a genetic defect from Caucasians in India. Indians also have the mutated gene which creates fair skin, the only difference is almost all Indians have that gene dormant. The fair skin mutation happened when Caucasians and Asians were spending a lot of time in cold climates where they could not get much vitamin D from the sun, fair skin does not need much vitamin D which is why the mutation happened, it was needed so the people did not get vitamin D deficiency and eventually die out from it.

at least you acknowledge that fair skin in Europeans is the result of genetic defect which started from 1 individual and spread although it has its own advatages in colder regions of the world.

R1A, most likely did not come from India so you are wrong again. Your links say nothing about it being from India and the map on that link shows it coming from no where near India



"The most likely place of origin of R1a is Central Asia or southern Russia/Siberia" http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#origins

The out of India theory is also impossible. Caucasians did not come from India, the fact that the Indo-European sansckript language only appears in India at a certain time is proof of this, those are the people who carried R1A into India. The indigenous aryan theory is a fantasy for indians with an inferiority complex, Australoid's are already proven to be the natives of India. Also, middle eastern Caucasians who branched off from Indo-Europeans and formed their own language pre-date the Indo-European migrations since Sumeria is the oldest civilization in this historical time period.

The first racially pure Caucasians came into India around 10,000-7500 BCE, they civilized the primitive australoid people and started the Indus Valley civilization. Over a period of 5000-8000 years they mixed with the natives and spread throughout all of India. By 1500 BCE the racially pure Indo-Aryans migrated into the Indian Sub-continent taking over the Indus Valley Civilization and were the originators of every Indian civilization after that, like Vedic civilization.

Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA) which is carried by most Eastern Europeans [Slavs] originated in South Asia, in modern day Indian states Uttar Pradesh and Punjab [ including Pakistan] and Highest frequencies are for it in found in India and Eastern Europe and certain population of Western Europe..

R1a in South Asia has the highest level of diversity of Y-STR haplotype variation within R1a1a compared to Eastern or Western Europe.

Haplogroup R1b (Y-DNA) Which is carried by most Western Europeans originated in Western Asia [ in Anatolia modern day Turkey] and also has high frequencies among certain Central Asian Turkic population and Hazara population of Afghanistan.

Also both DNA are found in low frequencies in Central Asia unlike in South Asia and Eastern Europe. genetics/science is constantly evolving.. remember the earlier cock n bull theories of western scientists propagating western supremacy been debunked. non Europeans are on the rise and soon these stupid theories which westerners make to fell good about themselves be debunked again.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/OIT_map.jpg

spread of indo European languages

Nope, it has already been proven that Sansckript only appeared in India during a certain time in their history. R1A most likely came from Central Asia and the reason why there is not high frequencies of that with the people there today is because there was a mass exodus of R1A people with many heading toward India.

There are more White people in Western Civilization so they have more contact with black people, you will obviously not see many Desi women with black guys when there are not as many of them as White people. I also don't care, you said he was a druggie so she was probably a hot big ass trashy girl, more left overs white men don't want. Go to the mall in Brampton, you will probably see some Desi girls with black guys, especially in the summer time. There are some amateur videos on the net of Desi girls with black guys also but obviously a lot less due to the lower population of Desi people in Western Civilization.

You are trying to say that Caucasian people originally came from India and Indo-European languages all spread from India because you don't wanna accept the fact that the great ancient Civilizations of India came from pure Caucasians who came from outside of India. As a defense mechanism you label any information like this as western propaganda


"Whole Y-chromosome sequence analysis of eight R1a and five R1b individuals suggests a divergence time of ~25 000 (95% CI: 21 300–29 000) years ago and a coalescence time within R1a-M417 of ~5800 (95% CI: 4800–6800) years. The spatial frequency distributions of R1a sub-haplogroups conclusively indicate two major groups, one found primarily in Europe and the other confined to Central and South Asia. Beyond the major European versus Asian dichotomy, we describe several younger sub-haplogroups. Based on spatial distributions and diversity patterns within the R1a-M420 clade, particularly rare basal branches detected primarily within Iran and eastern Turkey, we conclude that the initial episodes of haplogroup R1a diversification likely occurred in the vicinity of present-day Iran. "

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2014/03/major-new-article-on-deep-origins-of-y.html


"Eastward emerged the Sintashta culture (2100–1800 BCE), from which developed the Andronovo culture (1800–1400 BCE). This culture interacted with the BMAC (2300–1700 BCE); out of this interaction developed the Indo-Iranians, which split around 1800 BCE into the Indo-Aryans and the Iranians.[7] The Indo-Aryans migrated to the Levant, northern India, and possibly south Asia.[12] The migration into northern India was not a large-scale immigration, but may have consisted of small groups[13][note 2] which were genetically diverse. Their culture and language spread by the same mechanisms of acculturalisation, and the absorption of other groups into their patron-client system.[10]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_migration_theory#Archaeology:_migrations

The Indo-Iranians surly came from outside of India, this is fact. The original Caucasians who went into India around 7500 BCE mixed with the Australoid natives so by the time the Indo-Iranians came, the vast majority of the population was mixed.

You are also wrong about Europe, personally , I think non-Europeans in Europe should screw off back to their crap hole homeland so Europe can preserve their cultures and Identity. Still, the situation in Europe is not desperate since the majority of non-European minorities in Europe are MiddleEastern/NorthAfricans in all European Nations except UK, UK's largest minority are the Indians/Pakistanis, still this isn't a problem since most Desi people in Western Civilization are more Caucasian looking and from the upper castes.

100-200 years from now these people and their descendants will be fully assimilated into the European Cultures they are in.

The muslim Europe is also proving to be a myth due to the MiddleEastern/NorthAfrican birth rates decreasing.

UPDATE: In a telephone conference with journalists later on Thursday, Pew Forum researchers commented on the study. I asked what the results said about the “Eurabia” claim.

"Senior researcher Brian Grim said: “Across the next 20 years, we’re only seeing a 2 percent rise in the total share of Europe that is Muslim. We’re projecting that the growth rate is slowing. So this rise is very very modest. It’s a relatively small share of the overall population in Europe… There’s no real scenario that we’ve looked at that this ‘Eurabia’ scenario would come to be.”

Alan Cooperman, associate director for research, said the percentages of Muslims in some European populations would rise from 3 to 5 percent to between 6 and 10 percent by 2030. “Those are substantial increases but they are very far from the ‘Eurabia’ scenario of runaway growth,” he said. “We do not see either wordlwide or in Europe runaway growth. The growth rates are slowing.”"

http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/01/27/will-pew-muslim-birth-rate-study-finally-silence-the-eurabia-claim/

"Based on the current growth rate of Islam in Europe, in 2030, Muslims are projected to make up more than 10% of the total population in 10 European countries: Kosovo (93.5%), Albania (83.2%), Bosnia-Herzegovina (42.7%), Republic of Macedonia (40.3%), Montenegro (21.5%), Bulgaria (15.7%), Russia (14.4%), Georgia (11.5%), France (10.3%) and Belgium (10.2%).[34] There are around 100,000 Muslim converts in the UK.[35][36] France has seen conversions to the Islamic faith double in the past quarter century. In France there are an estimated 100,000 Muslim converts, compared with about 50,000 in 1986.[37]"

http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2013/06/14_pew.jpg

http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-will-britain-have-a-muslim-majority-by-2050/13690

So much for you thinking Europeans will end up being Mulattos, hahahaha, that is impossible since the largest minorities in European nations are non-European Caucasians, ahahahahah. Europe will never end up being a majority mixed race mud mulatto population like the majority of people in India are.

[MagnusAurelius]

I consider Germanics mixing with middle easterners to be race mixing, yes.

Well you are wrong, Germanics are Caucasian just as middle eastern people are. You only consider it not race mixing if Southern Europeans do it because you are under the impression they are all heavily mixed with MiddleEastern/NorthAfrican which is also false.

So how the hell is it race mixing? You are probably some Nordicist who has neo-nazi fantasies. About 40-50% of Arab Y-DNA is the same as 50% of German Y-DNA, hahahaha. So much for "race mixing"

http://i.imgur.com/kySt1ob.png


There is not a significant genetic distance between Germans and many Middle Eastern people, no where near the distance as comparing the distance of Germans with Asians or Black Africans.

http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/global-genetic-distances-map.jpg

[OnceLord]

LoL at the Jatt guy beating the same sequence studded drum as his other 'Aryan defenders' online..

Hardly anyone in academia seriously thinks Indo Euro came from India or anything of the like. Your people got your language and large chunks of your faith (Sikhism is technically an offshoot of Hinduism which itself is a partially 'bastardised' offshoot of the Indo Euro paganist cult, as Ottar will confirm I am sure) from people that were closest in terms of genes to Europeans.

Keep the 'Aryan' word if it makes you and your kind happy-- just don't think anyone outside the Indocentric worldview pays even the slightest attention to what is basically ethnic chestbeating and self aggrandisement (identical to the Turks claiming everything is actually Turkish, LoL).. SMDH

[Balmung]

There is not a significant genetic distance between Germans and many Middle Eastern people, no where near the distance as comparing the distance of Germans with Asians or Black Africans.

http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/global-genetic-distances-map.jpg

I was just taking the piss. I don't think that way, but yes it is race mixing. Just because Middle Easterners aren't as distant as Blacks doesn't make it not race mixing. Just the smallest distance is enough. Unless you can post data with Middle Eastern groups overlapping with Germans of course.

[Longbowman]

Such a terrible understanding of genetics and linguistics on this thread, but the absolute worst was Jatt's map that showed Indo-European languages in Yemen and Southern Arabia. What?

[MagnusAurelius]

I was just taking the piss. I don't think that way, but yes it is race mixing. Just because Middle Easterners aren't as distant as Blacks doesn't make it not race mixing. Just the smallest distance is enough. Unless you can post data with Middle Eastern groups overlapping with Germans of course.

No, that is wrong. It isn't race mixing, is is ethnicity mixing since they are two different ethnic groups within the Caucasian race. People should stop confusing ethnicity and race.

[MagnusAurelius]

LoL at the Jatt guy beating the same sequence studded drum as his other 'Aryan defenders' online..

Hardly anyone in academia seriously thinks Indo Euro came from India or anything of the like. Your people got your language and large chunks of your faith (Sikhism is technically an offshoot of Hinduism which itself is a partially 'bastardised' offshoot of the Indo Euro paganist cult, as Ottar will confirm I am sure) from people that were closest in terms of genes to Europeans.

Keep the 'Aryan' word if it makes you and your kind happy-- just don't think anyone outside the Indocentric worldview pays even the slightest attention to what is basically ethnic chestbeating and self aggrandisement (identical to the Turks claiming everything is actually Turkish, LoL).. SMDH

Yes, many Indians suffer from a huge inferiority complex, their men are infact some of the most beta and timid men on the planet. India is the only country in the world that actually has a large industry for mens fairing cream.

I guess I would feel inferior myself knowing that the originators of my peoples culture and civilization were more related to Europeans and MiddleEastern people today genetically than the very people who populate India today. Even though Indians with more Ancestral North Indian heritage are genetically closer to Europeans and MiddleEastern people, the original people who migrated into the Indian-Subcontinent are closer genetically to Europeans and MiddleEastern people than Indians of today, it is indisputable since all Indians have racial mixture from Australoids, some more than others.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgBevCTBTJw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqXiPCI0OTs

[Mortimer]

Hahahahahaha, this guy is delusional, I just proved in a previous post that most Italians do not look like Arabs and he still says "many italians are arabs". Also, it would not be race mixing since genetics proves all Arabs are mostly Caucasian in the 90-95% range so keep it up with your ignorant delusions since genetics will always prove you wrong.

Even the Italians with the most MENA ancestry are not mostly MENA themselves since the average MENA ancestry in Calabria and Sicily is 10%. Get a clue or keep making things up.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/41342-Italian-Sicilian-and-Greek-23andme-results!
its always italians who say that mideasterners are white or jews, because you are arabs yourself you proved nothing you posted one cherrypicked picture but you said your uncle looked arab go figure

[Musso]

In all honesty, after Armenian women, probably Indian women would be the most compatible to me in terms of culture and mindset - not to mention, Indian women are very attractive for me (much more than European, Russian, Asian women). I also admire their rich culture and heritage, and if you want to have a steady family with someone, it is the better choice.

[Freeroostah]

South Asian Girls are hot so I support you.

Go for it, they are just dark skin Caucasoids!

[MagnusAurelius]

its always italians who say that mideasterners are white or jews, because you are arabs yourself you proved nothing you posted one cherrypicked picture but you said your uncle looked arab go figure

I don't even look Arab and I don't care if I have a couple Calabrian family members who resemble Arabs, middle eastern people are Caucasian anyway. I didn't cherry pick anything, most Italians do not resemble Arabs like you wish they would so badly.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/south.html So where are all the Arabs? None look like Arabs here, sorry.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/southern.html I am having a hard time finding these "many Italians" who look like Arabs, I found 7 here who resemble arabs but then again, there are over 50 faces here.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/center.html No Arabs here.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/central.html 3 or 4 resemble Arabs here but again, that is 3 or 4 out of over 50 faces.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/north.html No Arabs once again.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/north.html 3 out of over 50 faces resemble Arabs here.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/parliament.html Here is your biggest Arab dump 22/120 resemble arabs here but still not enough for this fabled "Many Italians look Arab" myth.

[Mortimer]

I don't even look Arab and I don't care if I have a couple Calabrian family members who resemble Arabs, middle eastern people are Caucasian anyway. I didn't cherry pick anything, most Italians do not resemble Arabs like you wish they would so badly.

caucasian=/=european/white its like with amerindians and east asians both are mongoloid but they are not the same race. italians are mixed race

[MagnusAurelius]

caucasian=/=european/white its like with amerindians and east asians both are mongoloid but they are not the same race. italians are mixed race

Italians do not have enough Non-Caucasian ancestry to be considered mixed race. Keep making things up because genetic evidence will forever prove you wrong.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/41342-Italian-Sicilian-and-Greek-23andme-results!

http://i.imgur.com/wi2xM44.png Damn, look at all that Blue! So much for your Italians being mixed race fantasy. You are more mixed race than any Italian.





http://italianthro.blogspot.ca/2014/09/overestimated-admixture-brisighelli-2012.html There was a study that over-estimated negro admixture with Italians but it was debunked here by a proper study, the proper study also co-insides with the 23andme results of Calabrians and Sicilians which shows that most of them are 0.1-0.7% Black. So having 0.1-3% ancestry from another race makes you mixed race? I think having at least 35% or more ancestry from another race would truly make you mixed race since with that amount you would actually be able to notice a physical difference with that person.

[Mortimer]

Italians do not have enough Non-Caucasian ancestry to be considered mixed race. Keep making things up because genetic evidence will forever prove you wrong.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/41342-Italian-Sicilian-and-Greek-23andme-results!

http://i.imgur.com/wi2xM44.png Damn, look at all that Blue! So much for your Italians being mixed race fantasy. You are more mixed race than any Italian.





http://italianthro.blogspot.ca/2014/09/overestimated-admixture-brisighelli-2012.html There was a study that over-estimated negro admixture with Italians but it was debunked here by a proper study, the proper study also co-insides with the 23andme results of Calabrians and Sicilians which shows that most of them are 0.1-0.7% Black. So having 0.1-3% ancestry from another race makes you mixed race? I think having at least 35% or more ancestry from another race would truly make you mixed race since with that amount you would actually be able to notice a physical difference with that person.

italians are 30% mideastern/northafrican that makes them mixed race i dont buy into your "all caucasian phantasies" you are half brown and look it

[Mortimer]

why all italians have black hair?

[MagnusAurelius]

italians are 30% mideastern/northafrican that makes them mixed race i dont buy into your "all caucasian phantasies" you are half brown and look it

You constantly say things that are not true, probably trolling, I am surprised you are still on this forum. The 23andme results showed the average MENA (middleeastern,northafrican) ancestry with Calabrians and Sicilians is 10%, so where did this 30% figure come from? Oh I know, you made it up. All other Italians have less MENA admixture than Sicilians and Calabrians, so go ahead, lets see what else you make up next.

http://i.imgur.com/FYpPqGa.png

[Mortimer]

You constantly say things that are not true, probably trolling, I am surprised you are still on this forum. The 23andme results showed the average MENA (middleeastern,northafrican) ancestry with Calabrians and Sicilians is 10%, so where did this 30% figure come from? Oh I know, you made it up. All other Italians have less MENA admixture than Sicilians and Calabrians, so go ahead, lets see what else you make up next.

http://i.imgur.com/FYpPqGa.png

ok i thought sincerly its 30%, now i read the link its 20-10% still alot though. not really mixed race but have a relation to arabs in some it really shows

[OnceLord]

ok i thought sincerly its 30%, now i read the link its 20-10% still alot though. not really mixed race but have a relation to arabs in some it really shows

You realise your Gypsy blood pulls you so far east from the Balkans you probably end up closer to any Arabs than our Eyetie friend here? Lmao

[MagnusAurelius]

why all italians have black hair?

All Italians have black hair now? Again (like always) you are wrong. Here are some Italian army statistics from the late 1800's and early 1900's.

SOURCE : Antropometria Militare. Ridolfo Livi. Two volumes, 4°, with atlas. Rome: Preso il Giornale Medico del Regio E Sercito, 1896, 1905..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/4562291520_678f532076_z.jpg


31% have black hair
60% have chestnut hair (brown and darkbrown)
8.5% have blonde hair
0.5% have red hair

31% have light eyes, it should also be noted that around 40% of the modern Italian population has light eyes (green,gray,blue) 50% are brown/dark brown and 10% are mixed colored/hazel.

[OnceLord]

All Italians have black hair now? Again (like always) you are wrong. Here are some Italian army statistics from the late and early 1900's.


Lmao no idea why you're arguing with this guy mate.. Just accept you're all quasi Araboids or whatever so you can move on to some lush fresh Jatt poonani already LoLoL

[MagnusAurelius]

Lmao no idea why you're arguing with this guy mate.. Just accept you're all quasi Araboids or whatever so you can move on to some lush fresh Jatt poonani already LoLoL

Hahahaha, I much rather have Arab ancestry than be like you and have Asiatic mongol ancestry. I estimate I have at maximum 5% MENA ancestry which is far more desired than having 0.5-3% Asiatic ancestry like you probably have, haha. Not in the slightest, I would need 25-30% Arab ancestry to be quasi Arab, at that rate I would probably look more Arab. I would even rather have a spec of black ancestry than have asiatic ancestry, haha, I probably have 0.5% Sub-Saharan ancestry at maximum but that is assuming by dads Calabrain side is 1% black, I have not done a 23andme test yet so I don't know.

http://i.imgur.com/wi2xM44.png

[Musso]

Indians are part of the Indo-Aryan/Indo-European continuum. Linguistically that continuum exists in Indo-European languages also.

Basically: Indo-Aryan languages (e.g. Sanskrit) --> Indo-Iranian language (Farsi language) --> Armenian language --> Greek language --> Albanian Language --> Romance/Germanic/Slavic languages, etc.

As you see there is an Indo-European continuum that starts from India and reaches all the way to Ireland.

Asians (mongoloids), Semites (Arabs and Jews), Turkic people (Turks, Uzbeks, etc.), Africans (negroids), Australoid people, etc. don't fall into this continuum. The Indo-European continuum has a rich history, culture, that no one else can compare to.

[Mortimer]

You realise your Gypsy blood pulls you so far east from the Balkans you probably end up closer to any Arabs than our Eyetie friend here? Lmao

i dont claim to be white, you can call me australoid and i wouldnt care.

[Longbowman]

You realise your Gypsy blood pulls you so far east from the Balkans you probably end up closer to any Arabs than our Eyetie friend here? Lmao

He knows, he's not a Nordicist.

[Longbowman]

Indians are part of the Indo-Aryan/Indo-European continuum. Linguistically that continuum exists in Indo-European languages also.

Basically: Indo-Aryan languages (e.g. Sanskrit) --> Indo-Iranian language (Farsi language) --> Armenian language --> Greek language --> Albanian Language --> Romance/Germanic/Slavic languages, etc.

As you see there is an Indo-European continuum that starts from India and reaches all the way to Ireland.

Asians (mongoloids), Semites (Arabs and Jews), Turkic people (Turks, Uzbeks, etc.), Africans (negroids), Australoid people, etc. don't fall into this continuum. The Indo-European continuum has a rich history, culture, that no one else can compare to.

OK, then Basques, Finns and Hungarians aren't white, amongst others, but Jamaicans, Bengalis and Sinhalese are. Cool, just checking.

[Mortimer]

All Italians have black hair now? Again (like always) you are wrong. Here are some Italian army statistics from the late 1800's and early 1900's.

SOURCE : Antropometria Militare. Ridolfo Livi. Two volumes, 4°, with atlas. Rome: Preso il Giornale Medico del Regio E Sercito, 1896, 1905..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/4562291520_678f532076_z.jpg


31% have black hair
60% have chestnut hair (brown and darkbrown)
8.5% have blonde hair
0.5% have red hair

31% have light eyes, it should also be noted that around 40% of the modern Italian population has light eyes (green,gray,blue) 50% are brown/dark brown and 10% are mixed colored/hazel.

lol im stereotyping italians, i know that not all have black hair. dont worry mate. i dont know why you started this thread though. probably to provoce the few indian members.

[Musso]

OK, then Basques, Finns and Hungarians aren't white, amongst others, but Jamaicans, Bengalis and Sinhalese are. Cool, just checking.

Not saying Indo-European continuum is white while others aren't. I'm just talking about a linguistical and cultural continuum. That goes from India and goes to Ireland. obvsiouly Basques and FInns are white, just linguistcally not indo-european. But they share many similarities with their indo-european speaking neighbors.

[Longbowman]

Not saying Indo-European continuum is white while others aren't. I'm just talking about a linguistical and cultural continuum. That goes from India and goes to Ireland. obvsiouly Basques and FInns are white, just linguistcally not indo-european. But they share many similarities with their indo-european speaking neighbors.

Nope, you strongly implied that. Let me remind you:


Asians (mongoloids), Semites (Arabs and Jews), Turkic people (Turks, Uzbeks, etc.), Africans (negroids), Australoid people, etc. don't fall into this continuum. The Indo-European continuum has a rich history, culture, that no one else can compare to.

Not much room for other interpretations here.

'Africans' are not comparable to 'Semites, Turkics or Indo-Europeans' by the way. Perhaps you meant 'Bantu' or 'Nilo-Saharan?' As stated many African groups today are Indo-European. Most (numerically speaking) Jews are also IE and have been for around 1,300 years (from when Sephardics became the majority leading in to the Ashkenazic hegemony).

In terms of 'white blood,' which I'll limited to the WHG indigenous mesolithic component in Europeans, the presence of which is indicative of other European components as well, here are some groups which far outscore Indians, even Northern Indians, yet are not IE:

1) Udmurts, Komi, Mari, and other indigenous Russian peoples
2) Finns, Estonians, Sami, and other Finnic peoples
3) Magyars
4) Basques
5) Western Jewish groups
6) Northwestern Africans
7) Maltese people
8) Gagauz, Turks, Azerbaijanis, other Turkic peoples
9) Kartvellian (Georgian, Svan) peoples
10) Circassian, Chechen, other North Caucasians peoples

in no particular order.

Indo-European is a language group and has very little to do with race.

Arguing Indians are Caucasoid is a different matter, and applicable (but only to Central and Northwestern Indians, really) but then you'd have to include nearly all Afro-Asiatic groups as Caucasoid too, going by population distances and admixture components. You could maybe exclude most North and East Africans and South Arabians for having too much SSA admixture if you were feeling harsh but you'd have to include all/most Levantine and North Arabian groups.

[Musso]

Nope, you strongly implied that. Let me remind you:



Not much room for other interpretations here.

'Africans' are not comparable to 'Semites, Turkics or Indo-Europeans' by the way. Perhaps you meant 'Bantu' or 'Nilo-Saharan?' As stated many African groups today are Indo-European. Most (numerically speaking) Jews are also IE and have been for around 1,300 years (from when Sephardics became the majority leading in to the Ashkenazic hegemony).

In terms of 'white blood,' which I'll limited to the WHG indigenous mesolithic component in Europeans, the presence of which is indicative of other European components as well, here are some groups which far outscore Indians, even Northern Indians, yet are not IE:

1) Udmurts, Komi, Mari, and other indigenous Russian peoples
2) Finns, Estonians, Sami, and other Finnic peoples
3) Magyars
4) Basques
5) Western Jewish groups
6) Northwestern Africans
7) Maltese people
8) Gagauz, Turks, Azerbaijanis, other Turkic peoples
9) Kartvellian (Georgian, Svan) peoples
10) Circassian, Chechen, other North Caucasians peoples

in no particular order.

Indo-European is a language group and has very little to do with race.

Arguing Indians are Caucasoid is a different matter, and applicable (but only to Central and Northwestern Indians, really) but then you'd have to include nearly all Afro-Asiatic groups as Caucasoid too, going by population distances and admixture components. You could maybe exclude most North and East Africans and South Arabians for having too much SSA admixture if you were feeling harsh but you'd have to include all/most Levantine and North Arabian groups.

I am not saying Indo-European is strictly tied with race. Many Latinos speak an indo-european language but they are a mix of native, african, and spanish blood. What I am implying is a cultural and linguistic continuum that stretches from India to Greece. Linguistics has been used by researched to map human migration, so linguistics plays a key role in mapping how humans migrated throughout history. The fact that Basques speak a non-indo european language talks about the fact of their ancient heritage, not that they are non-white. You think Indians are more white than Basques? No. But interestingly, you may find more commonalities with Indo-Aryan languages of India with some Indo-European languages in Europe.

There is no Indo-European race. But instead a linguistic stratum that ties them together.

[jatt]

Yes, many Indians suffer from a huge inferiority complex, their men are infact some of the most beta and timid men on the planet. India is the only country in the world that actually has a large industry for mens fairing cream.

I guess I would feel inferior myself knowing that the originators of my peoples culture and civilization were more related to Europeans and MiddleEastern people today genetically than the very people who populate India today. Even though Indians with more Ancestral North Indian heritage are genetically closer to Europeans and MiddleEastern people, the original people who migrated into the Indian-Subcontinent are closer genetically to Europeans and MiddleEastern people than Indians of today, it is indisputable since all Indians have racial mixture from Australoids, some more than others.

]

man you are so full of shit.. you have no knowledge about indian people and history. actually its my ancestors whom migrated and populated Europe suffererd from albino genetic defect later on and became white. today they take it as blessing. Aryan did not migrate to india rather the lands of north west india, afghanitan(was part of ancient india) and iran were Aryan homelands. European anthropologists of 18th century proposed many crap theories which were later discarded.

scientific revelations in the past decades have all but made this Aryan migration to india theory obsolete. Let us look at this evidence starting from Literature, which can be fused with latest scientific evidence to arrive at a latest possible date for the Migration- if it happened. Then we can look for scientific evidence of Migration ,

1.Literature: First, the RigVeda. The geographical area of the Rug Veda (Rig Ved) is clearly delineated as North West India; there is no room for any doubt. It specifically mentions the Saraswati as between the Yamuna and the Sutlej, That can only be the Ghaggar river bed. Satellite imagery has established that this used to be a massive river system in the old days. The Rugved does not mention a drying Saraswati, clearly meaning that it must have been written well before 1900 - 2600 BC. There is no mention of either invasion or Migration in the Rugved; if any migration occured, it happened before 3000 BC - if at all. There is also no mention of a central asian landscape in the RugVed; it is specific in that it mentions the Kabul river to the west and the Ganga to the east. There is awareness of the Himalayas.

2.A Radio Metric Dating of the Indus Saraswati places the real age of this civilization to 7200 BC or thereabouts. This was announced by the ASI in an international conference on 5th November 2012. This also suggests that migration did not happen 3500 years ago, or even 9000 years ago.

3.Second, Genetics. a 2006 study clearly identifies that the Indian population has been generally stable for a very long time, and that there has been no major injection of Central Asian Genes for over 10000 years at least. So, if any migration did happen, it was long before settlements emerged, before domestication of the horse, before the Iron or Bronze ages. We are talking about hunter gatherers, small bands of nomads etc. The latest dating of the Indus Saraswati Civilization is 9000 years - as per Radio Metric Dating; the genetic evidence is older by this than 1000+ years at least.

4.The R1a1a gene mutation is found in North India and East Europeans, South Siberia, Tajikistan and North Eastern Iran, A study on this conducted in 2010 found that the oldest strain of the R1a1a branch was concentrated in the Gujarat-Sindh-Western Rajasthan region of India, suggesting that this was close to the origin of the genetic group. A mutation M458 is found in Europeans, but is not found at all in Asians. This M458 mutation is at least 8000 years old, thus lending credence to the observations above

From this we can see that the Aryan Migration never happened; Literary, Archeological as well as genetic evidence all points to the reverse. There is no longer any room for any doubt whatsoever...

[TheGoldenSon]

A good read my friend. (http://www.returnofkings.com/51395/5-reasons-why-you-should-not-date-indian-girls)

[♥ Lily ♥]

People are all individuals so don't go on silly stereotypes. You don't need anyone elses permission or approval to date another consenting adult. Other peoples opinions are irrelevant anyway. It's your life and nobody else's business, so do what makes you happy and forget the miserable people whose opinions you shouldn't care for.

[MagnusAurelius]

man you are so full of shit.. you have no knowledge about indian people and history. actually its my ancestors whom migrated and populated Europe suffererd from albino genetic defect later on and became white. today they take it as blessing. Aryan did not migrate to india rather the lands of north west india, afghanitan(was part of ancient india) and iran were Aryan homelands. European anthropologists of 18th century proposed many crap theories which were later discarded.

scientific revelations in the past decades have all but made this Aryan migration to india theory obsolete. Let us look at this evidence starting from Literature, which can be fused with latest scientific evidence to arrive at a latest possible date for the Migration- if it happened. Then we can look for scientific evidence of Migration ,

1.Literature: First, the RigVeda. The geographical area of the Rug Veda (Rig Ved) is clearly delineated as North West India; there is no room for any doubt. It specifically mentions the Saraswati as between the Yamuna and the Sutlej, That can only be the Ghaggar river bed. Satellite imagery has established that this used to be a massive river system in the old days. The Rugved does not mention a drying Saraswati, clearly meaning that it must have been written well before 1900 - 2600 BC. There is no mention of either invasion or Migration in the Rugved; if any migration occured, it happened before 3000 BC - if at all. There is also no mention of a central asian landscape in the RugVed; it is specific in that it mentions the Kabul river to the west and the Ganga to the east. There is awareness of the Himalayas.

2.A Radio Metric Dating of the Indus Saraswati places the real age of this civilization to 7200 BC or thereabouts. This was announced by the ASI in an international conference on 5th November 2012. This also suggests that migration did not happen 3500 years ago, or even 9000 years ago.

3.Second, Genetics. a 2006 study clearly identifies that the Indian population has been generally stable for a very long time, and that there has been no major injection of Central Asian Genes for over 10000 years at least. So, if any migration did happen, it was long before settlements emerged, before domestication of the horse, before the Iron or Bronze ages. We are talking about hunter gatherers, small bands of nomads etc. The latest dating of the Indus Saraswati Civilization is 9000 years - as per Radio Metric Dating; the genetic evidence is older by this than 1000+ years at least.

4.The R1a1a gene mutation is found in North India and East Europeans, South Siberia, Tajikistan and North Eastern Iran, A study on this conducted in 2010 found that the oldest strain of the R1a1a branch was concentrated in the Gujarat-Sindh-Western Rajasthan region of India, suggesting that this was close to the origin of the genetic group. A mutation M458 is found in Europeans, but is not found at all in Asians. This M458 mutation is at least 8000 years old, thus lending credence to the observations above

From this we can see that the Aryan Migration never happened; Literary, Archeological as well as genetic evidence all points to the reverse. There is no longer any room for any doubt whatsoever...

You are delusional and full of shit, some laughable Indian supremacist, no one gives a shit if your Jatt, you just make yourself look like an idiot when you show off your ethnic pride. It wasn't an Albino genetic defect, all races have Albino's so you are wrong, the gene for Albinism is different than the Gene for fair skin. You are also wrong because Indians also share the same gene that creates fair skin just as Europeans do, having fair skin is a great advantage in cold climates, personally I am almost full Italian and while I have very fair skin when it is not summer, I tan very well and rarely burn in the summer. You on the other hand have darker skin and you are in far greater danger than me of getting vitamin D deficiency if you don't take Vitamin D pills since Canada is cold and it is only hot and humid in Southern Ontario for 4-5 months of the year.

http://www.livescience.com/41040-skin-color-genes-identified-india.html Indians and Europeans Share 'Light-Skin' Mutation

Haha, you seriously think that Caucasians migrated from India into Europe, that theory has been debunked totally, there were already Caucasians living in Europe at the time of the Indo-European migrations and those people all descended from Middle Eastern Neolithic farmers, most of them were in Southern Europe but they were also spread throughout Europe. The Indo-European groups who migrated there all mixed with them.


R1A did not originate in India, there is no scientific evidence to back this up at all. You are in denial and suffer from an inferiority complex, so you are doing anything you can to come up with something that proves the original people in India founded their Religions/Cultures and Civilizations. This is nothing more than a fantasy, it is already proven that R1A did not originate in India, your people have no culture of their own, it was given to you by pure Caucasians who civilized the primitive Australoid natives around 7500 BCE or before then R1A was spread throughout India with the Indo Iranian migrations around 1500 BCE. You are nothing but the mixed race remnants of these people who are genetically closer to me than you, you are probably only 67-70% Caucasian at the most, you are a mixed race mutt. Your stupid Jatt pride and all this other garbage comes from my people or people who are genetically closer to me than you, the founders of every great civilization in India are people who are genetically closer to me than you. Haha, just accept it, better than believing in pseudo scientific indian supremacist lies all your life.

I also did a search on your number 2 "fact" and again, no results at all, no university study, no study on a university website, no citations to the official source, more made up garbage. There are not even results for that on any reputable trusted academic website.

Infact, I think a lot of the things you said were all made up by this idiot. The fact that this fool does not say specifically where he got his sources from nor can I even find the sources on the Internet, it is all bullshit.

https://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/6649160-5976538652757544962

"ORIGIN & AUTHORSHIP OF THE VEDAS
The origin of the Vedas can be traced back as far as 1500 BCE, when a large group of nomads called the Aryans, coming from central Asia, crossed the Hindu Kush Mountains, migrating into the Indian subcontinent"

http://www.ancient.eu/The_Vedas/






http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations The first natives of Europe were mostly Middle Eastern farmers, none of them were even R1A so your delusion that your ancestors originally populated Europe is also WRONG.

The fact that the Indo-Iranian religions have so many similarities with the Vedas proves they obviously came from outside of India. How could they be indigenous Aryans when they have so much in common with a foreign people? Haha, I am proving you wrong every single time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Iranian_religion

Gene study reveals Indian origins
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2009/09/24/2695631.htm




http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#migration_map All of this has cited evidence that leads to other websites which has citations from where they got that information from. None of the information you stated even comes from a trusted source. You are 100% WRONG :cool:




So where is this study that shows the oldest R1A comes from this region in India? THERE IS NONE! What you just said was made up by someone else, I searched it on google and I found no scientific study done by any man with the qualifications or university.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=.Second%2C+Genetics.+a+2006+study+clearly +identifies+that+the+Indian+population+has+been+ge nerally+stable+for+a+very+long+time%2C+and+that+th ere+has+been+no+major+injection+of+Central+Asian+G enes+for+over+10000+years+at+least.+So%2C+if+any+m igration+did+happen%2C+it+was+long+before+settleme nts+emerged%2C+before+domestication+of+the+horse%2 C+before+the+Iron+or+Bronze+ages.+We+are+talking+a bout+hunter+gatherers%2C+small+bands+of+nomads+etc .+The+latest+dating+of+the+Indus+Saraswati+Civiliz ation+is+9000+years+-+as+per+Radio+Metric+Dating%3B+the+genetic+evidenc e+is+older+by+this+than+1000%2B+years+at+least.&oq=.Second%2C+Genetics.+a+2006+study+clearly+ident ifies+that+the+Indian+population+has+been+generall y+stable+for+a+very+long+time%2C+and+that+there+ha s+been+no+major+injection+of+Central+Asian+Genes+f or+over+10000+years+at+least.+So%2C+if+any+migrati on+did+happen%2C+it+was+long+before+settlements+em erged%2C+before+domestication+of+the+horse%2C+befo re+the+Iron+or+Bronze+ages.+We+are+talking+about+h unter+gatherers%2C+small+bands+of+nomads+etc.+The+ latest+dating+of+the+Indus+Saraswati+Civilization+ is+9000+years+-+as+per+Radio+Metric+Dating%3B+the+genetic+evidenc e+is+older+by+this+than+1000%2B+years+at+least.&aqs=chrome..69i57.262533j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#q=The+R1a1a+gene+mutation+is+found+in+North+Indi a+and+East+Europeans,+South+Siberia,+Tajikistan+an d+North+Eastern+Iran,+A+study+on+this+conducted+in +2010+found+that+the+oldest+strain+of+the+R1a1a+br anch+was+concentrated+in+the+Gujarat-Sindh-Western+Rajasthan+region+of+India,+suggesting+that +this+was+close+to+the+origin+of+the+genetic+group .+A+mutation+M458+is+found+in+Europeans,+but+is+no t+found+at+all+in+Asians.+This+M458+mutation+is+at +least+8000+years+old,+thus+lending+credence+to+th e+observations+above&start=0


Also, the fact that the Indian government itself has a special census for the "Indigenous people" of India also proves Aryans were never indigenous to the continent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_indigenous_peoples#South_Asia.2FIndian_Sub continent

"Thus Bhils are probably the descendants of some of the original inhabitants of India known as the 'aborigines' or Scheduled Tribes (Adivasis), who presently comprise of only about 8% of the population of India."

Also the fact that Australoids in Australlia can trace 11% of their ancestry to people who migrated from India around 4000 years ago.

http://www.nature.com/news/genomes-link-aboriginal-australians-to-indians-1.12219

These are the indigenous people of India, not the Caucasian Aryans. Get a grip, haha, accept that you are a mixed race mutt with no real culture of your own, accept that all of the glorious achievements and advancements with India like the Indus Valley Civilization and Vedic civilization are because of racially pure Caucasians who originally mixed with the Australoid natives then the Indo-Iranians/Aryans who came and introduced the caste system and were the founders of Vedic civilization and all Indian civilizations after that. Without these people, you would not even exist and you are nothing but the mixed race result of these people since at least 30% of your ancestry comes from the original primitive natives of India.

[jatt]

You are delusional and full of shit, some laughable Indian supremacist, no one gives a shit if your Jatt, you just make yourself look like an idiot when you show off your ethnic pride. It wasn't an Albino genetic defect, all races have Albino's so you are wrong, the gene for Albinism is different than the Gene for fair skin. You are also wrong because Indians also share the same gene that creates fair skin just as Europeans do, having fair skin is a great advantage in cold climates, personally I am almost full Italian and while I have very fair skin when it is not summer, I tan very well and rarely burn in the summer. You on the other hand have darker skin and you are in far greater danger than me of getting vitamin D deficiency if you don't take Vitamin D pills since Canada is cold and it is only hot and humid in Southern Ontario for 4-5 months of the year.

http://www.livescience.com/41040-skin-color-genes-identified-india.html Indians and Europeans Share 'Light-Skin' Mutation

Haha, you seriously think that Caucasians migrated from India into Europe, that theory has been debunked totally, there were already Caucasians living in Europe at the time of the Indo-European migrations and those people all descended from Middle Eastern Neolithic farmers, most of them were in Southern Europe but they were also spread throughout Europe. The Indo-European groups who migrated there all mixed with them.


R1A did not originate in India, there is no scientific evidence to back this up at all. You are in denial and suffer from an inferiority complex, so you are doing anything you can to come up with something that proves the original people in India founded their Religions/Cultures and Civilizations. This is nothing more than a fantasy, it is already proven that R1A did not originate in India, your people have no culture of their own, it was given to you by pure Caucasians who civilized the primitive Australoid natives around 7500 BCE or before then R1A was spread throughout India with the Indo Iranian migrations around 1500 BCE. You are nothing but the mixed race remnants of these people who are genetically closer to me than you, you are probably only 67-70% Caucasian at the most, you are a mixed race mutt. Your stupid Jatt pride and all this other garbage comes from my people or people who are genetically closer to me than you, the founders of every great civilization in India are people who are genetically closer to me than you. Haha, just accept it, better than believing in pseudo scientific indian supremacist lies all your life.

I also did a search on your number 2 "fact" and again, no results at all, no university study, no study on a university website, no citations to the official source, more made up garbage. There are not even results for that on any reputable trusted academic website.

Infact, I think a lot of the things you said were all made up by this idiot. The fact that this fool does not say specifically where he got his sources from nor can I even find the sources on the Internet, it is all bullshit.

https://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/6649160-5976538652757544962

"ORIGIN & AUTHORSHIP OF THE VEDAS
The origin of the Vedas can be traced back as far as 1500 BCE, when a large group of nomads called the Aryans, coming from central Asia, crossed the Hindu Kush Mountains, migrating into the Indian subcontinent"

http://www.ancient.eu/The_Vedas/






http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations The first natives of Europe were mostly Middle Eastern farmers, none of them were even R1A so your delusion that your ancestors originally populated Europe is also WRONG.

The fact that the Indo-Iranian religions have so many similarities with the Vedas proves they obviously came from outside of India. How could they be indigenous Aryans when they have so much in common with a foreign people? Haha, I am proving you wrong every single time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Iranian_religion

Gene study reveals Indian origins
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2009/09/24/2695631.htm




http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#migration_map All of this has cited evidence that leads to other websites which has citations from where they got that information from. None of the information you stated even comes from a trusted source. You are 100% WRONG :cool:




So where is this study that shows the oldest R1A comes from this region in India? THERE IS NONE! What you just said was made up by someone else, I searched it on google and I found no scientific study done by any man with the qualifications or university.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=.Second%2C+Genetics.+a+2006+study+clearly +identifies+that+the+Indian+population+has+been+ge nerally+stable+for+a+very+long+time%2C+and+that+th ere+has+been+no+major+injection+of+Central+Asian+G enes+for+over+10000+years+at+least.+So%2C+if+any+m igration+did+happen%2C+it+was+long+before+settleme nts+emerged%2C+before+domestication+of+the+horse%2 C+before+the+Iron+or+Bronze+ages.+We+are+talking+a bout+hunter+gatherers%2C+small+bands+of+nomads+etc .+The+latest+dating+of+the+Indus+Saraswati+Civiliz ation+is+9000+years+-+as+per+Radio+Metric+Dating%3B+the+genetic+evidenc e+is+older+by+this+than+1000%2B+years+at+least.&oq=.Second%2C+Genetics.+a+2006+study+clearly+ident ifies+that+the+Indian+population+has+been+generall y+stable+for+a+very+long+time%2C+and+that+there+ha s+been+no+major+injection+of+Central+Asian+Genes+f or+over+10000+years+at+least.+So%2C+if+any+migrati on+did+happen%2C+it+was+long+before+settlements+em erged%2C+before+domestication+of+the+horse%2C+befo re+the+Iron+or+Bronze+ages.+We+are+talking+about+h unter+gatherers%2C+small+bands+of+nomads+etc.+The+ latest+dating+of+the+Indus+Saraswati+Civilization+ is+9000+years+-+as+per+Radio+Metric+Dating%3B+the+genetic+evidenc e+is+older+by+this+than+1000%2B+years+at+least.&aqs=chrome..69i57.262533j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#q=The+R1a1a+gene+mutation+is+found+in+North+Indi a+and+East+Europeans,+South+Siberia,+Tajikistan+an d+North+Eastern+Iran,+A+study+on+this+conducted+in +2010+found+that+the+oldest+strain+of+the+R1a1a+br anch+was+concentrated+in+the+Gujarat-Sindh-Western+Rajasthan+region+of+India,+suggesting+that +this+was+close+to+the+origin+of+the+genetic+group .+A+mutation+M458+is+found+in+Europeans,+but+is+no t+found+at+all+in+Asians.+This+M458+mutation+is+at +least+8000+years+old,+thus+lending+credence+to+th e+observations+above&start=0


Also, the fact that the Indian government itself has a special census for the "Indigenous people" of India also proves Aryans were never indigenous to the continent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_indigenous_peoples#South_Asia.2FIndian_Sub continent

"Thus Bhils are probably the descendants of some of the original inhabitants of India known as the 'aborigines' or Scheduled Tribes (Adivasis), who presently comprise of only about 8% of the population of India."

Also the fact that Australoids in Australlia can trace 11% of their ancestry to people who migrated from India around 4000 years ago.

http://www.nature.com/news/genomes-link-aboriginal-australians-to-indians-1.12219

These are the indigenous people of India, not the Caucasian Aryans. Get a grip, haha, accept that you are a mixed race mutt with no real culture of your own, accept that all of the glorious achievements and advancements with India like the Indus Valley Civilization and Vedic civilization are because of racially pure Caucasians who originally mixed with the Australoid natives then the Indo-Iranians/Aryans who came and introduced the caste system and were the founders of Vedic civilization and all Indian civilizations after that. Without these people, you would not even exist and you are nothing but the mixed race result of these people since at least 30% of your ancestry comes from the original primitive natives of India.
same drivel again n again .. we European are best.. we are pure ... we formed civilisations all over the world.. blah blah blah....you are a typical white supremacist person who believe white must be superior classes everyone else as inferior…lol… .amazing how a white guy with no real knowledge about culture in India, history, traditions, other than what hes read internet is trying to brag to that the great Indian empires and civilizations somehow were connected with whiteeuropeans. you believe in theories made on speculation and no real concrete evidence yet refuce to believe in my statements which are based on merit and scientific evidence. you keep saying r1a1 component formed among central Asians/Europeans yet gimme no explanation to the fact why is this component more diverse in india. simply you wanna believe what you wanna believe because some max muller dude 18th century anthropologist with racist views made a bull shit theory based on pure speculation and belief of white superiority and yet you want me to take you seriously... in 18th century some anthropologist believed black and whites cant interbreed as they were different species and kids would b impotent.. like mules formed by breeding horse and donkey.. they had many crap theories and people believed those but later on they were proved wrong...

use common sense how can Europeans be 97% pure breed when they assimilated wholly with neandethals. mongols invasions happened and the inherent attraction white women to black man.. comeon man up and accept the inner Neanderthal/mongoloid/negroid blood... it is easy to point fingers on others but when you point 1 finger on other three point towards you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J63Udr_cuaA

listen to the professor with open mind.. out of india theory is based on merits.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTmt4BG7lHw

European were intitialy dark like our indo European ancestors.. and went albino later... so I am the more original aryan and you r not

[jatt]

n by the way indigenous Europeans such as Grimaldi, Cromagnum, etc had Negroids features and skeletons.. chk bbc documentery the first Europeans.

[MagnusAurelius]

same drivel again n again .. we European are best.. we are pure ... we formed civilisations all over the world.. blah blah blah....you are a typical white supremacist person who believe white must be superior classes everyone else as inferior…lol… .amazing how a white guy with no real knowledge about culture in India, history, traditions, other than what hes read internet is trying to brag to that the great Indian empires and civilizations somehow were connected with whiteeuropeans. you believe in theories made on speculation and no real concrete evidence yet refuce to believe in my statements which are based on merit and scientific evidence. you keep saying r1a1 component formed among central Asians/Europeans yet gimme no explanation to the fact why is this component more diverse in india. simply you wanna believe what you wanna believe because some max muller dude 18th century anthropologist with racist views made a bull shit theory based on pure speculation and belief of white superiority and yet you want me to take you seriously... in 18th century some anthropologist believed black and whites cant interbreed as they were different species and kids would b impotent.. like mules formed by breeding horse and donkey.. they had many crap theories and people believed those but later on they were proved wrong...

use common sense how can Europeans be 97% pure breed when they assimilated wholly with neandethals. mongols invasions happened and the inherent attraction white women to black man.. comeon man up and accept the inner Neanderthal/mongoloid/negroid blood... it is easy to point fingers on others but when you point 1 finger on other three point towards you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J63Udr_cuaA

listen to the professor with open mind.. out of india theory is based on merits.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTmt4BG7lHw

European were intitialy dark like our indo European ancestors.. and went albino later... so I am the more original aryan and you r not

I am not gonna watch almost 2 hours of that nasty looking man with his annoying accent when it has already been proven that R1A did not originate in India, it does not matter if India may have the most R1A genetic diversity, that doesn't mean R1A people were in India first.

You fail to explain why the ancient Iranian religions are so similar to what is in the Rig Veda, it is obvious they came into India first. I am not an Albino, Albinism genes are different than the gene which creates fair skin so I don't know why you keep repeating this, when I already proved that both Indians and Europeans have the mutation that creates fair skin. You are 100% not more Aryan than me, what a joke, Indians are mixed, you are 70% Caucasian max with the rest of your ancestry being mostly Australoid, how does that make you Aryan? You are a Punjabi jatt, basically a mixed race mutt, even though many Indians can pass for 70-80% Caucasian genetically, that is still a significant admixture from another race.

The word Aryan itself does not even come from India and you are still trying to argue this out of India bullshit theory, hahahahha.

"Aryan
Proto-Indo-Iranian[edit]
The Sanskrit term comes from Indo-Iranian[5][note 1] or Proto-Indo-Iranian *arya-[8][9] or *aryo-,[10][note 2] the name used by the Indo-Iranians to designate themselves.[11][5][note 3][10] The Zend airya 'venerable' and Old Persian ariya are also derivates of *aryo-,[10] and are also self-designations.[2][12][note 5]"

In Iranian context the original self-identifier lives on in ethnic names like "Alani", "Ir".[14] Similarly, The word Iran is the Persian word for land/place of the Aryans.[15][note 6]

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html Just look how mixed Punjabis are on here.

If white women were naturally attracted to black men then I would not see so many ugly, fat and trashy big ass dumb white women with black men, hahahah. And you think Indian women don't like black men, they are simply not around them as much due to lower populations of Indian/Pakistani people in Western Civilization and hardly any black people in India, yet I can still find amateur porn of indian girls with black guys, ahahahahah.

So how are you more "Aryan" than me when genetics proves all Indians are mixed?

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2012/12/racial-composition-and-history-of-india.html


Even if that genetic study may be flawed, R1A still does not originate within India.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1380230/

"Our reappraisal indicates that pre-Holocene and Holocene-era—not Indo-European—expansions have shaped the distinctive South Asian Y-chromosome landscape." This goes along with exactly what I was saying before, that non-Indo European speaking Caucasians were the first Caucasian people to migrate into India and mix with the natives, what this attempts to prove is the Central Asians (Indo Aryans) did not have a large genetic impact on the Indian population.

"Pre–Indo-European Expansions Shape the South Asian Y-Chromosome Landscape

On the basis of a broad distribution—involving all social and linguistic categories in India—and relatively high diversification patterns, it can be concluded that representatives of HGs C5-M356 H-M69*, F*, L1, and R2 have ancestry indigenous to the Asian subcontinent. "

They don't even mention Haplogroup R-M420 (R1A) as being indigenous to India.

" Instead, our overall inference is that an early Holocene expansion in northwestern India (including the Indus Valley) contributed R1a1-M17 chromosomes both to the Central Asian and South Asian tribes prior to the arrival of the Indo-Europeans. The results of our more comprehensive study of Y-chromosome diversity are in agreement with the caveat of Quintana-Murci et al. (2001, p. 541), that “more complex explanations are possible,” rather than their simplistic conclusion that HGs J and R1a1 reflect demic expansions of southwestern Asian Dravidian-speaking farmers and Central Asian Indo-European–speaking pastorialists.

Polarity and Temporality of High-Resolution Y-Chromosome Distributions in India Identify Both Indigenous and Exogenous Expansions and Reveal Minor Genetic Influence of Central Asian Pastoralists"

You are finished, I don't need some nasty looking Indian Professor with an annoying accent who thinks he knows it all to tell me his bias opinion when genetics already proves R1A came into India by migrating people who were Caucasian before the Indo-Iranians/Europeans ever entered India. It doesn't matter if R1A may be more diverse in India, just because it is doesn't mean it originated in India, the main reason why it is so diverse in India is because R1A people migrated into India so long ago and more diversification happened once the Indo-Iranians arrived.

The modern genetic make up of India was formed by the Indigenous Indians (orginally being Australoids) and external influence from migrating Caucasians.

ex·og·e·nous
ˌekˈsäjənəs/
adjective
of, relating to, or developing from external factors.
BIOLOGY
growing or originating from outside an organism.
"an exogenous hormone"

[jatt]

I am not gonna watch almost 2 hours of that nasty looking man with his annoying accent when it has already been proven that R1A did not originate in India, it does not matter if India may have the most R1A genetic diversity, that doesn't mean R1A people were in India first.

You fail to explain why the ancient Iranian religions are so similar to what is in the Rig Veda, it is obvious they came into India first. I am not an Albino, Albinism genes are different than the gene which creates fair skin so I don't know why you keep repeating this, when I already proved that both Indians and Europeans have the mutation that creates fair skin. You are 100% not more Aryan than me, what a joke, Indians are mixed, you are 70% Caucasian max with the rest of your ancestry being mostly Australoid, how does that make you Aryan? You are a Punjabi jatt, basically a mixed race mutt, even though many Indians can pass for 70-80% Caucasian genetically, that is still a significant admixture from another race.

The word Aryan itself does not even come from India and you are still trying to argue this out of India bullshit theory, hahahahha."

man you just wont give up will you. stop with your delusional rants. 70% Caucasoid 80% Caucasoid blah blah blah..i don't give two hoot abt what you think. you have your world view which is shaped by the white superiority syndrome white infects majority of people in west. there are people world who are better than what you are used to there. Caucasoid ist synonymous to being white. Caucasoid is based on skeletal and skull measurements. but to nderstand this fact you gotta shed your stuborn we are the best attitutes. ancient Iranian religion and people was similar to Indians but todays Iranians are not same as ancient Iranians. reason being there been massacred commited on their population at one time only a million or so were left. their ancient language avestan is similar to Sanskrit which is indo Aryan language.. do u even know how similar is Sanskrit to hindi.. i can speak in Sanskrit...."yada yada he dharmasya glanir bavti bharat ..dharma sansthapna thaye sriya myaham". tell me what i said in Sanskrit.. lol you cant use google to translate.. ahahah




"Aryan
Proto-Indo-Iranian[edit]
The Sanskrit term comes from Indo-Iranian[5][note 1] or Proto-Indo-Iranian *arya-[8][9] or *aryo-,[10][note 2] the name used by the Indo-Iranians to designate themselves.[11][5][note 3][10] The Zend airya 'venerable' and Old Persian ariya are also derivates of *aryo-,[10] and are also self-designations.[2][12][note 5]"

In Iranian context the original self-identifier lives on in ethnic names like "Alani", "Ir".[14] Similarly, The word Iran is the Persian word for land/place of the Aryans.[15][note 6]

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html Just look how mixed Punjabis are on here.

If white women were naturally attracted to black men then I would not see so many ugly, fat and trashy big ass dumb white women with black men, hahahah. And you think Indian women don't like black men, they are simply not around them as much due to lower populations of Indian/Pakistani people in Western Civilization and hardly any black people in India, yet I can still find amateur porn of indian girls with black guys, ahahahahah.

So how are you more "Aryan" than me when genetics proves all Indians are mixed?

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2012/12/racial-composition-and-history-of-india.html


Even if that genetic study may be flawed, R1A still does not originate within India.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1380230/

"Our reappraisal indicates that pre-Holocene and Holocene-era—not Indo-European—expansions have shaped the distinctive South Asian Y-chromosome landscape." This goes along with exactly what I was saying before, that non-Indo European speaking Caucasians were the first Caucasian people to migrate into India and mix with the natives, what this attempts to prove is the Central Asians (Indo Aryans) did not have a large genetic impact on the Indian population.

"Pre–Indo-European Expansions Shape the South Asian Y-Chromosome Landscape

On the basis of a broad distribution—involving all social and linguistic categories in India—and relatively high diversification patterns, it can be concluded that representatives of HGs C5-M356 H-M69*, F*, L1, and R2 have ancestry indigenous to the Asian subcontinent. "

They don't even mention Haplogroup R-M420 (R1A) as being indigenous to India.

" Instead, our overall inference is that an early Holocene expansion in northwestern India (including the Indus Valley) contributed R1a1-M17 chromosomes both to the Central Asian and South Asian tribes prior to the arrival of the Indo-Europeans. The results of our more comprehensive study of Y-chromosome diversity are in agreement with the caveat of Quintana-Murci et al. (2001, p. 541), that “more complex explanations are possible,” rather than their simplistic conclusion that HGs J and R1a1 reflect demic expansions of southwestern Asian Dravidian-speaking farmers and Central Asian Indo-European–speaking pastorialists.

Polarity and Temporality of High-Resolution Y-Chromosome Distributions in India Identify Both Indigenous and Exogenous Expansions and Reveal Minor Genetic Influence of Central Asian Pastoralists"

You are finished, I don't need some nasty looking Indian Professor with an annoying accent who thinks he knows it all to tell me his bias opinion when genetics already proves R1A came into India by migrating people who were Caucasian before the Indo-Iranians/Europeans ever entered India. It doesn't matter if R1A may be more diverse in India, just because it is doesn't mean it originated in India, the main reason why it is so diverse in India is because R1A people migrated into India so long ago and more diversification happened once the Indo-Iranians arrived.

The modern genetic make up of India was formed by the Indigenous Indians (orginally being Australoids) and external influence from migrating Caucasians.

ex·og·e·nous
ˌekˈsäjənəs/
adjective
of, relating to, or developing from external factors.
BIOLOGY
growing or originating from outside an organism.
"an exogenous hormone"

dude euro centrics will close their eyes but the existence of Y-haplogroup R1a(*) in ancestors and extended phylogenetic analyses of the pooled dataset of 530 Indians, 224 Pakistanis and 276 Central Asians and Eurasians bearing the R1a1(*) haplogroup supported the autochthonous origin of R1a1 lineage in India and a tribal link to Indian Brahmins. " the current boundry of india is not same as ancient india..Afghanistan Pakistan were part of ancient india. no matter how much people like you deny science gonna win and when dienekes new paper is out all will b clear

[MagnusAurelius]

man you just wont give up will you. stop with your delusional rants. 70% Caucasoid 80% Caucasoid blah blah blah..i don't give two hoot abt what you think. you have your world view which is shaped by the white superiority syndrome white infects majority of people in west. there are people world who are better than what you are used to there. Caucasoid ist synonymous to being white. Caucasoid is based on skeletal and skull measurements. but to nderstand this fact you gotta shed your stuborn we are the best attitutes. ancient Iranian religion and people was similar to Indians but todays Iranians are not same as ancient Iranians. reason being there been massacred commited on their population at one time only a million or so were left. their ancient language avestan is similar to Sanskrit which is indo Aryan language.. do u even know how similar is Sanskrit to hindi.. i can speak in Sanskrit...."yada yada he dharmasya glanir bavti bharat ..dharma sansthapna thaye sriya myaham". tell me what i said in Sanskrit.. lol you cant use google to translate.. ahahah



dude euro centrics will close their eyes but the existence of Y-haplogroup R1a(*) in ancestors and extended phylogenetic analyses of the pooled dataset of 530 Indians, 224 Pakistanis and 276 Central Asians and Eurasians bearing the R1a1(*) haplogroup supported the autochthonous origin of R1a1 lineage in India and a tribal link to Indian Brahmins. " the current boundry of india is not same as ancient india..Afghanistan Pakistan were part of ancient india. no matter how much people like you deny science gonna win and when dienekes new paper is out all will b clear

Haha, even if R1A has its origins in India, it doesn't matter. The out of India theory is still debunked, perhaps R1A spread from India but the original natives of Europe never had Haplogroups that originated in India. Ancient Sumeria also pre-dates Indian Civilizations. If you did a Autosomal genetic analysis on your self then you will be mixed race, you can genetically prove someone is Caucasian or not by an Autosomal Genetic analysis. I gaurentee the founders of the Indus Valley Civilization were racially pure Caucasians who civilized and mixed with the primitive Australoid tribal natives on India. A Caucasian with Haplogroup R1A or any Caucasian European or MiddleEastern person is more racially related to the originators of Indian Civilizations and Cultures than you will ever be, accept it because you are not racially pure like I am.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations You are the one who seriously believes your ancestors colonized Europe, this proves you wrong, the original people of Europe did not even have Haplogroups that originated in India, even if you assume R1A originates in India.

What makes you think that you are directly descended from these people? You do not, modern Indians today are heavily mixed race, some are more mixed than others. You can stuff your Jatt pride down your throat because your home country and Punjab is a poor and pathetic, your people have not done anything to benefit humanity since the Indus Valley/Vedic Civilization, hmmm I wonder why? Probably because the pure Caucasians who are the founders of the great ancient Indian civilizations mixed with those primitive Australoids, the end result is India depending on advancements from Western Civilization ever since, haha. All of India was a primitive craphole when European Empires first established themselves there. You yourself don't even live in India because a nation ruled by White Europeans lets you live here for a better life, why don't you go back to India if you have so much pride in being Punjabi Jatt, I am sure you will be welcomed back to your craphole exchanging all your Canadian money to Indian currency so you can be rich in India. Ha, nothing more pathetic than people who have too much pride in their ethnicity/culture yet they don't even live in that country, instead they leech off European people to live a good life because the European governments let them live in their nations.

Even if you are right and R1A does originate in India, it still does not change the fact that Haplogroup R itself comes from outside of India. This means the subclade R1A came into being after diversification once Haplogroup R people entered India.



"Haplogroup R* originated in North Asia just before the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500-19,000 years ago). This haplogroup has been identified in the remains of a 24,000 year-old boy from the Altai region, in south-central Siberia (Raghavan et al. 2013). This individual belonged to a tribe of mammoth hunters that may have roamed across Siberia and parts of Europe during the Paleolithic. Autosomally this Paleolithic population appears to have contributed mostly to the ancestry of modern Europeans and South Asians, the two regions where haplogroup R also happens to be the most common nowadays (R1b in Western Europe, R1a in Eastern Europe, Central and South Asia, and R2 in South Asia)."]Paleolithic mammoth hunters"



http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#origins

The oldest remnant of someone belonging to Haplogroup R was 24,000 years ago in central Siberia, this is proven and you can't deny it and this fact proves the out of India theory wrong. This would put it's origin at the year 21,985 BCE, older than Haplogroup R1A has ever been in India. Racially pure Haplogroup R Caucasians migrated into India, perhaps they ended up being R1A after diversification and R1A does originate in India but that doesn't change the fact that Haplogroup R itself came from outside of India.

[jatt]

Haha, even if R1A has its origins in India, it doesn't matter. The out of India theory is still debunked, perhaps R1A spread from India but the original natives of Europe never had Haplogroups that originated in India. Ancient Sumeria also pre-dates Indian Civilizations. If you did a Autosomal genetic analysis on your self then you will be mixed race, you can genetically prove someone is Caucasian or not by an Autosomal Genetic analysis. I gaurentee the founders of the Indus Valley Civilization were racially pure Caucasians who civilized and mixed with the primitive Australoid tribal natives on India. A Caucasian with Haplogroup R1A or any Caucasian European or MiddleEastern person is more racially related to the originators of Indian Civilizations and Cultures than you will ever be, accept it because you are not racially pure like I am..
hahaha no matter whatever logical arguments or scientific facts I provide you you wont believe them n if you believe then all your false pride will be gone.. you behave like thse three monkeys

http://cdn19.picsart.com/92053452992.jpeg




http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations You are the one who seriously believes your ancestors colonized Europe, this proves you wrong, the original people of Europe did not even have Haplogroups that originated in India, even if you assume R1A originates in India.

What makes you think that you are directly descended from these people? You do not, modern Indians today are heavily mixed race, some are more mixed than others. You can stuff your Jatt pride down your throat because your home country and Punjab is a poor and pathetic, your people have not done anything to benefit humanity since the Indus Valley/Vedic Civilization, hmmm I wonder why? Probably because the pure Caucasians who are the founders of the great ancient Indian civilizations mixed with those primitive Australoids, the end result is India depending on advancements from Western Civilization ever since, haha. All of India was a primitive craphole when European Empires first established themselves there. You yourself don't even live in India because a nation ruled by White Europeans lets you live here for a better life, why don't you go back to India if you have so much pride in being Punjabi Jatt, I am sure you will be welcomed back to your craphole exchanging all your Canadian money to Indian currency so you can be rich in India. Ha, nothing more pathetic than people who have too much pride in their ethnicity/culture yet they don't even live in that country, instead they leech off European people to live a good life because the European governments let them live in their nations..

aboriginal Europeans were not Aryans.. they were Neanderthals cro magnoon and grimaldi. indo Europeans later on mixed with the aboriginal Europeans and now a days there is no pure Neanderthal or cro magnoon is left in europe. dude when lion is wounded even sheep can kick his ass.. india use to be richest country in the world upto 18th century.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/1_AD_to_2008_AD_trends_in_%25_GDP_contribution_by_ major_economies_of_the_world.png/340px-1_AD_to_2008_AD_trends_in_%25_GDP_contribution_by_ major_economies_of_the_world.png

this graph show the trend of global economies.. this is a temporary phase in indian history and we will be back to out former glory again.




Even if you are right and R1A does originate in India, it still does not change the fact that Haplogroup R itself comes from outside of India. This means the subclade R1A came into being after diversification once Haplogroup R people entered India.



"Haplogroup R* originated in North Asia just before the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500-19,000 years ago). This haplogroup has been identified in the remains of a 24,000 year-old boy from the Altai region, in south-central Siberia (Raghavan et al. 2013). This individual belonged to a tribe of mammoth hunters that may have roamed across Siberia and parts of Europe during the Paleolithic. Autosomally this Paleolithic population appears to have contributed mostly to the ancestry of modern Europeans and South Asians, the two regions where haplogroup R also happens to be the most common nowadays (R1b in Western Europe, R1a in Eastern Europe, Central and South Asia, and R2 in South Asia)."]Paleolithic mammoth hunters"



http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#origins

The oldest remnant of someone belonging to Haplogroup R was 24,000 years ago in central Siberia, this is proven and you can't deny it and this fact proves the out of India theory wrong. This would put it's origin at the year 21,985 BCE, older than Haplogroup R1A has ever been in India. Racially pure Haplogroup R Caucasians migrated into India, perhaps they ended up being R1A after diversification and R1A does originate in India but that doesn't change the fact that Haplogroup R itself came from outside of India.

man you seriously have half knowledge.. look at this map and haplogroup r distribution

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Haplogroup_R_%28mtDNA%29_%26_subclades.PNG


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R_(mtDNA)


I hope this helps clear your mind..

[Sockorer]

Indian and Pakistani women are great, they're really easy and love white men.

Just the other day, the wife of my next door neighbor, they're Punjabi, invited me in for some sex. :thumb001:

[MagnusAurelius]

hahaha no matter whatever logical arguments or scientific facts I provide you you wont believe them n if you believe then all your false pride will be gone.. you behave like thse three monkeys

http://cdn19.picsart.com/92053452992.jpeg




aboriginal Europeans were not Aryans.. they were Neanderthals cro magnoon and grimaldi. indo Europeans later on mixed with the aboriginal Europeans and now a days there is no pure Neanderthal or cro magnoon is left in europe. dude when lion is wounded even sheep can kick his ass.. india use to be richest country in the world upto 18th century.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/1_AD_to_2008_AD_trends_in_%25_GDP_contribution_by_ major_economies_of_the_world.png/340px-1_AD_to_2008_AD_trends_in_%25_GDP_contribution_by_ major_economies_of_the_world.png

this graph show the trend of global economies.. this is a temporary phase in indian history and we will be back to out former glory again.



man you seriously have half knowledge.. look at this map and haplogroup r distribution

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Haplogroup_R_%28mtDNA%29_%26_subclades.PNG


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R_(mtDNA)


I hope this helps clear your mind..



Why don't you go back to your Indian shithole? You are obviously just another generic Indian who has too much pride in being Indian, if you love India so much leave Canada and never come back. Hahaha, do you really think it matters? The White Elite run this planet and any opposition they may face will only come from Russia/China, India is fully controlled by them. China which only has about 150,000,000 more people than India yet they are far ahead of India in terms of development and their economy. India has done nothing for the world since Ancient times, the vast majority of technological advancements since the 1800's are because of White European men, the entire world has depended on Western Civilization for advancements since this time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1y2FZPFuow

Ha, wow it is very humiliating considering that China's GDP is more than 2 times as much as India yet they only have 150 million more people, countries with a large population usually have a high GDP.
Superior China. Pathetic India
GDP (PPP) 2015 estimate GDP (PPP) 2015 estimate
Total $18.976 trillion[12] (1st) $7.997 trillion[9] (3rd)

Adding insult to Injury, India's human development index is not even rising while China's is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India
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Y-DNA haplogroup R does not originate in India and that has already been proven, Haplogroup R people originally migrated into India long ago, this is fact due to this discovery.


"Haplogroup R* originated in North Asia just before the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500-19,000 years ago). This haplogroup has been identified in the remains of a 24,000 year-old boy from the Altai region, in south-central Siberia (Raghavan et al. 2013). This individual belonged to a tribe of mammoth hunters that may have roamed across Siberia and parts of Europe during the Paleolithic. Autosomally this Paleolithic population appears to have contributed mostly to the ancestry of modern Europeans and South Asians, the two regions where haplogroup R also happens to be the most common nowadays (R1b in Western Europe, R1a in Eastern Europe, Central and South Asia, and R2 in South Asia)."]Paleolithic mammoth hunters"

Hahahaa, you still believe that Indo-Europeans from India actually colonized Europe and mixed with people there?

Did you even read this? The original Europeans who migrated and mixed with the people already in Europe did not have haplogroups that even originated in India.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations

Keep thinking your craphole country will ever have any power in this world when these people already rule this planet. In your mind you are Indian first and Canadian second so you should go back to India instead of leaching off European people to live a good life in superior Western Nations because Western Governments let you people from your pathetic undeveloped nations live here. India is a failure, China is far surpassing India on the world stage, India will never reach its former glory in Ancient Times since it is nothing but a poor and mostly mixed race cespool now.

http://i.imgur.com/fKKIT3k.jpg

[Toscano]

Yes. That makes you a dirty racemixer and your not accepted by your fellow white europeans.

[jatt]

Why don't you go back to your Indian shithole? You are obviously just another generic Indian who has too much pride in being Indian, if you love India so much leave Canada and never come back. Hahaha, do you really think it matters? The White Elite run this planet and any opposition they may face will only come from Russia/China, India is fully controlled by them. China which only has about 150,000,000 more people than India yet they are far ahead of India in terms of development and their economy. India has done nothing for the world since Ancient times, the vast majority of technological advancements since the 1800's are because of White European men, the entire world has depended on Western Civilization for advancements since this time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1y2FZPFuow

Ha, wow it is very humiliating considering that China's GDP is more than 2 times as much as India yet they only have 150 million more people, countries with a large population usually have a high GDP.
Superior China. Pathetic India
GDP (PPP) 2015 estimate GDP (PPP) 2015 estimate
Total $18.976 trillion[12] (1st) $7.997 trillion[9] (3rd)

Adding insult to Injury, India's human development index is not even rising while China's is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India
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Y-DNA haplogroup R does not originate in India and that has already been proven, Haplogroup R people originally migrated into India long ago, this is fact due to this discovery.


"Haplogroup R* originated in North Asia just before the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500-19,000 years ago). This haplogroup has been identified in the remains of a 24,000 year-old boy from the Altai region, in south-central Siberia (Raghavan et al. 2013). This individual belonged to a tribe of mammoth hunters that may have roamed across Siberia and parts of Europe during the Paleolithic. Autosomally this Paleolithic population appears to have contributed mostly to the ancestry of modern Europeans and South Asians, the two regions where haplogroup R also happens to be the most common nowadays (R1b in Western Europe, R1a in Eastern Europe, Central and South Asia, and R2 in South Asia)."]Paleolithic mammoth hunters"

Hahahaa, you still believe that Indo-Europeans from India actually colonized Europe and mixed with people there?

Did you even read this? The original Europeans who migrated and mixed with the people already in Europe did not have haplogroups that even originated in India.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations

Keep thinking your craphole country will ever have any power in this world when these people already rule this planet. In your mind you are Indian first and Canadian second so you should go back to India instead of leaching off European people to live a good life in superior Western Nations because Western Governments let you people from your pathetic undeveloped nations live here. India is a failure, China is far surpassing India on the world stage, India will never reach its former glory in Ancient Times since it is nothing but a poor and mostly mixed race cespool now.

http://i.imgur.com/fKKIT3k.jpg

so what if china is doing better for now.. long run they r doomed. their economy is based on manufacturing. 1 child policy gonna cost . already its predicted indian will be growing faster than china this year. as I told you india and china have historically replaced each other as worlds largest economies. it is india which has always influenced china not the other way round. their culture even the world renouned kunf fu is gift from india. before the economic meltdown of world economies in 2009 india was doubling its economy every 4 - 5 years and we are back to same growth rates again. western civilization did advanced in 15th century because of rapid industriisation and renaissance and the rewards they are reaping even now. but their times up.. soon natural balance will be restored.

[MagnusAurelius]

so what if china is doing better for now.. long run they r doomed. their economy is based on manufacturing. 1 child policy gonna cost . already its predicted indian will be growing faster than china this year. as I told you india and china have historically replaced each other as worlds largest economies. it is india which has always influenced china not the other way round. their culture even the world renouned kunf fu is gift from india. before the economic meltdown of world economies in 2009 india was doubling its economy every 4 - 5 years and we are back to same growth rates again. western civilization did advanced in 15th century because of rapid industriisation and renaissance and the rewards they are reaping even now. but their times up.. soon natural balance will be restored.

All you can talk about is India because you are so obsessed with being Indian, never have I seen a people who has more ethnic/nationalistic pride than Indians/Pakistanis, I don't know what you people have go to be proud of, your home countries are poor and pathetic, the originators of your culture and civilizations are more related to Europeans and MiddleEastern people genetically than they are Indians of today. Even if India's economy is projected to grow faster than China's this could only be temporary and only be the case for the next 10 years, do you seriously think India will double their GDP within 10 years? Impossible, China and India's GDP has been increasing by 7% each year, even if India grows faster I doubt that will ever go beyond 10% and China will remain at a 5-7% growth rate. India will never be more powerful than China, even if they grow faster, China is so far ahead already that it won't matter if India's economy grew faster at this point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate

Even if you were right about Haplogroup R1A1 originating in India, you are still wrong about R1A1 people being the "original aryans" and colonizing all of Europe, that is pure fantasy. Y-DNA Haplogroup R itself, the ancestor of R1A1 did not even originate in India. The reason why R1A1 may originate in India is because the Haplogroup mutated upon settlement in India, possibly by mixing with the MTDNA R2 that is native to the continent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-M207

"Haplogroup R* originated in North Asia just before the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500-19,000 years ago). This haplogroup has been identified in the remains of a 24,000 year-old boy from the Altai region, in south-central Siberia (Raghavan et al. 2013). This individual belonged to a tribe of mammoth hunters that may have roamed across Siberia and parts of Europe during the Paleolithic. Autosomally this Paleolithic population appears to have contributed mostly to the ancestry of modern Europeans and South Asians, the two regions where haplogroup R also happens to be the most common nowadays (R1b in Western Europe, R1a in Eastern Europe, Central and South Asia, and R2 in South Asia)."]Paleolithic mammoth hunters"

"Haplogroup R1a probably branched off from R1* during or soon after the Last Glacial Maxium. Little is know for certain about its place of origin. Some think it might have originated in the Balkans or around Pakistan and Northwest India, due to the greater genetic diversity found in these regions. The diversity can be explained by other factors though. The Balkans have been subject to 5000 years of migrations from the Eurasian Steppes, each bringing new varieties of R1a. South Asia has had a much bigger population than any other parts of the world (occasionally equalled by China) for at least 10,000 years, and larger population bring about more genetic diversity. The most likely place of origin of R1a is Central Asia or southern Russia/Siberia."

Also the fact that there is Strong evidence that R1A and R1B spread the SLC24A5 gene that causes light skin also casts doubt that R1A even originated in India, even if it still did, the original Y-DNA Haplogroup R people were foreign to the Indian Sub-continent and became R1A1 after mutation.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29435-Light-skin-allele-of-SLC24A5-gene-was-spread-by-the-Indo-Europeans-%28R1a-R1b%29

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/genes-and-the-out-of-india-theory-of-indo-european/ More evidence which casts doubt on R1A1 originating in India.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations As you can see the original Caucasians who were already in Europe and the Indo-European speaking Caucasians who migrated there all belonged to Y-DNA haplogroups that did not originate in India so your fantasy that your ancestors were "pure aryans" that colonized Europe is false, you are not even a pure Aryan, I am more Caucasian than you, you are 70% Caucasian at maximum so your belief that you are an "original aryan" is pure fantasy. At the most, there is a possibility that the Eastern Europeans today who have high frequencies of R1A1 originally came from India but thats it, as for Germanics, Celtics, Iberians, Italics and Greeks, there is no Indian origin for these people, this is certain.

This leads to the conclusion that racially pure Caucasians originally migrated into India founding the great Indus Valley/Vedic civilizations and civilizing/mixing with the Australoid natives, why else would the Indian government itself have a registry from Indigenous peoples? Your Out of India theory is completely false due to these facts, your civilization and culture are not indigenous to your own continent, they came from outside it as seen with the Haplogroup R proof. India would have no Culture or Civilization today if it wasn't for the Indus Valley and Vedic Civilizations and every Civilization after that, if Caucasians never migrated into the Indian sub continent then India would be nothing and even more pathetic than it already is today.

[jatt]

All you can talk about is India because you are so obsessed with being Indian, never have I seen a people who has more ethnic/nationalistic pride than Indians/Pakistanis, I don't know what you people have go to be proud of, your home countries are poor and pathetic, the originators of your culture and civilizations are more related to Europeans and MiddleEastern people genetically than they are Indians of today. Even if India's economy is projected to grow faster than China's this could only be temporary and only be the case for the next 10 years, do you seriously think India will double their GDP within 10 years? Impossible, China and India's GDP has been increasing by 7% each year, even if India grows faster I doubt that will ever go beyond 10% and China will remain at a 5-7% growth rate. India will never be more powerful than China, even if they grow faster, China is so far ahead already that it won't matter if India's economy grew faster at this point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate

Even if you were right about Haplogroup R1A1 originating in India, you are still wrong about R1A1 people being the "original aryans" and colonizing all of Europe, that is pure fantasy. Y-DNA Haplogroup R itself, the ancestor of R1A1 did not even originate in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-M207

"Haplogroup R* originated in North Asia just before the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500-19,000 years ago). This haplogroup has been identified in the remains of a 24,000 year-old boy from the Altai region, in south-central Siberia (Raghavan et al. 2013). This individual belonged to a tribe of mammoth hunters that may have roamed across Siberia and parts of Europe during the Paleolithic. Autosomally this Paleolithic population appears to have contributed mostly to the ancestry of modern Europeans and South Asians, the two regions where haplogroup R also happens to be the most common nowadays (R1b in Western Europe, R1a in Eastern Europe, Central and South Asia, and R2 in South Asia)."]Paleolithic mammoth hunters"

This leads to the conclusion that racially pure Caucasians originally migrated into India founding the great Indus Valley/Vedic civilizations and civilizing/mixing with the Australoid natives, why else would the Indian government itself have a registry from Indigenous peoples? Your Out of India theory is completely false due to these facts, your civilization and culture are not indigenous to your own continent, they came from outside it as seen with the Haplogroup R proof. India would have no Culture or Civilization today if it wasn't for the Indus Valley and Vedic Civilizations and every Civilization after that, if Caucasians never migrated into the Indian sub continent then India would be nothing and even more pathetic than it already is today.

dude you have no idea about how economy grow.. the nominal gdp growth rate is gdp growth +inflation. in 2001 chinas economy was 2 trillion and we are 2.5 trillion now. with indian rupee stabilized economy will grow even more. inflation + real growth rate would be over 12% for india. india will pass china like it always did. regarding your othermumbo jumbo about vedic civilization. no matter how much you try to claim it it will be Indians.. actuall Indians should be claiming roman civilization as it was our ancestors who moved to Europe and stablished that civilization.

[jatt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8-JCK45tc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K0aTOTW8hU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsLbejnRjV8

[jatt]

mangnus bro .. we Indians can now clam Europe for ourselves and we will just let the right time come.. it was Aryans who conquered Europe and we are much more purer Aryan than you.. we have maintained our Aryan lifestyle till date.. while hindus read hymns from vedas you read chapters from bible.

[MagnusAurelius]

mangnus bro .. we Indians can now clam Europe for ourselves and we will just let the right time come.. it was Aryans who conquered Europe and we are much more purer Aryan than you.. we have maintained our Aryan lifestyle till date.. while hindus read hymns from vedas you read chapters from bible.

Hahahaaha, you are a delusional retard if you seriously believe you are more pure aryan than me. Indians are mixed race and this is genetically proven you fool, keep being in denial and enjoy your pathetic fantasies. If Indians are "pure aryan" and spread to Europe from India then why does Haplogorup R1B not originate in India? Why does Haplogroup R itself not originate in India? I already know the Aryan invasion theory is false but fact is, the original Haplogroup R people migrated into India and were the real pure Caucasians, the iNDIANS today are nothing but the mixed race and lesser mixed race result of these peoples domination.

Indians are highly mixed and the purest Indians are only 70-80% Caucasian genetically.

http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2013/08/major-admixture-in-india-took-place-42.html

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2012/12/racial-composition-and-history-of-india.html

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html Look how mixed Punjabs are here.

And you say you are more "pure aryan" than me when genetics proves you are nothing but a mixed race mutt!

Just look how mixed you people are, all those Haplogroups from non-Caucasian people. How could you pathetic Indians ever lay claim to being the originators of Europe when you are all mixed race mutts?

You are a delusional FOB fool obsessed with being a pathetic indian, you can't even type proper sentences and you make crap up when evidence proves you wrong.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF EUROPE DID NOT HAVE ANY HAPLOGROUPS THAT EVEN ORIGINATED IN INDIA! Nor did the main groups of indo europeans who migrated into Europe to mix with the native Caucasians already there!

http://www.transpacificproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Y-Haplogroups-World-Map.jpg


Have fun in your fantasy land that India is great and mighty and responsible for being the original people in Europe when the truth is, the pure Caucasians who are more related to me and middle eastern people genetically than they are you are responsible for the greatest advances in the Indian sub continent with Vedic and Indus Valley Civilizations in addition to being the bringers of Culture and Civilization to the primitive Australoid people. You are not a direct descendant of these people due to the thousands of years of mixing between these people and the Australoid natives. Genetics proves Indians are mixed, even if you are a Punjabi Jatt, you still have at least 20-30% Non-Caucasian ancestry which sets you apart from the pure Caucasians who founded India.

Have fun with your delusions!

[jatt]

Hahahaaha, you are a delusional retard if you seriously believe you are more pure aryan than me. Indians are mixed race and this is genetically proven you fool, keep being in denial and enjoy your pathetic fantasies. If Indians are "pure aryan" and spread to Europe from India then why does Haplogorup R1B not originate in India? Why does Haplogroup R itself not originate in India? I already know the Aryan invasion theory is false but fact is, the original Haplogroup R people migrated into India and were the real pure Caucasians, the iNDIANS today are nothing but the mixed race and lesser mixed race result of these peoples domination.

Indians are highly mixed and the purest Indians are only 70-80% Caucasian genetically.

http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2013/08/major-admixture-in-india-took-place-42.html

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2012/12/racial-composition-and-history-of-india.html

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html Look how mixed Punjabs are here.

And you say you are more "pure aryan" than me when genetics proves you are nothing but a mixed race mutt!

Just look how mixed you people are, all those Haplogroups from non-Caucasian people. How could you pathetic Indians ever lay claim to being the originators of Europe when you are all mixed race mutts?

You are a delusional FOB fool obsessed with being a pathetic indian, you can't even type proper sentences and you make crap up when evidence proves you wrong.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF EUROPE DID NOT HAVE ANY HAPLOGROUPS THAT EVEN ORIGINATED IN INDIA! Nor did the main groups of indo europeans who migrated into Europe to mix with the native Caucasians already there!

http://www.transpacificproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Y-Haplogroups-World-Map.jpg

dude those days of European propaganda are over. Indians are Aryans as Aryan as they come. and genetics have proven gene flow from india to Europe. u and I am here .. write down this on the wall.. sooner you will be reading Aryan invasion of Europe in your text books.. that bastard max muller and british tried to hi jack our history and achievemets.. but tables are turning and you are feeling the heat. Aryan migration to india theory is already been discarded and as it was discarded recently it is still being taught to pupils.. your delusions soon be over.. mark my words... it is simply improbably for Europeans to be pure race its all bull crap.. iwould rather believe my eyes and I see 10 out of 100 white women mixing themselves with others. and you don't even have caste system to stop it

[jatt]

Indians mixing with other Indians is not racial mixing you fool.

[MagnusAurelius]

Indians mixing with other Indians is not racial mixing you fool.

A pathetic FOB obsessed with being Indian, you should really go back to India, you don't belong in Canada. Yes Indians mixing with Indians is essentially more race mixing, Indians are not a race, they are an admixed people who are mixed between Australoids and Caucasians.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations

If these fabled Aryans who originated in India invaded Europe then why do all European Y Haplogroups have a non-Indian origin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_European_populations

http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.ca/2012/10/finally-some-inmproved-knowledge-of.html European R1A people also have a different sub-clade than Indian R1A so they are not directly descended from R1A people in India.


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"Haplogroup R* originated in North Asia just before the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500-19,000 years ago). This haplogroup has been identified in the remains of a 24,000 year-old boy from the Altai region, in south-central Siberia (Raghavan et al. 2013). This individual belonged to a tribe of mammoth hunters that may have roamed across Siberia and parts of Europe during the Paleolithic. Autosomally this Paleolithic population appears to have contributed mostly to the ancestry of modern Europeans and South Asians, the two regions where haplogroup R also happens to be the most common nowadays (R1b in Western Europe, R1a in Eastern Europe, Central and South Asia, and R2 in South Asia)."]Paleolithic mammoth hunters"

HAPLOGROUP R ITSELF, THE ANCESTOR OF R1A1 DOES NOT EVEN ORIGINATE IN INDIA! LOL, THE ORIGINATORS OF INDIAN CIVILIZATION AND CULTURE WERE PURE CAUCASIANS MORE RELATED TO ME THAN YOU!

HOW CAN YOU DENY ALL THE GENETIC EVIDENCE I POSTED THAT PROVES INDIANS TODAY ARE MIXED? You are delusional and have an inferiority complex and can't come to terms with the fact that the bringers of your civilization and culture came from outside of India. Why else would the oldest Haplogroup R lineage be found from outside of India from a Caucasian boy 24,000 years ago? R1A1 did not magically appear in India, it was brought there from Haplogroup R migrations and if R1A1 does originate in India it is because it mutated and became R1A1 in India.

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/more-out-of-india-madness/

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/out-of-india-idiots-more-on-indo-european-genes/

More proof that also casts doubt on R1A1's Indian origin but even if it does originate in India, it still doesn't matter since Haplogroup R Y-DNA originally came from outside of India as proven from the Siberian boy.

Anyway, keep denying evidence in favor of your fantasy delusions.

[Toscano]

You diden't answer my post Sir. Please explain a bit more - WHY you like shitskin women? Do you hate yourself? Do you think racemixing is something good?
Do you have a fetish?

[jatt]

A pathetic FOB obsessed with being Indian, you should really go back to India, you don't belong in Canada. Yes Indians mixing with Indians is essentially more race mixing, Indians are not a race, they are an admixed people who are mixed between Australoids and Caucasians.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations

If these fabled Aryans who originated in India invaded Europe then why do all European Y Haplogroups have a non-Indian origin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_European_populations

http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.ca/2012/10/finally-some-inmproved-knowledge-of.html European R1A people also have a different sub-clade than Indian R1A so they are not directly descended from R1A people in India.


"
"Haplogroup R* originated in North Asia just before the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500-19,000 years ago). This haplogroup has been identified in the remains of a 24,000 year-old boy from the Altai region, in south-central Siberia (Raghavan et al. 2013). This individual belonged to a tribe of mammoth hunters that may have roamed across Siberia and parts of Europe during the Paleolithic. Autosomally this Paleolithic population appears to have contributed mostly to the ancestry of modern Europeans and South Asians, the two regions where haplogroup R also happens to be the most common nowadays (R1b in Western Europe, R1a in Eastern Europe, Central and South Asia, and R2 in South Asia)."]Paleolithic mammoth hunters"

HAPLOGROUP R ITSELF, THE ANCESTOR OF R1A1 DOES NOT EVEN ORIGINATE IN INDIA! LOL, THE ORIGINATORS OF INDIAN CIVILIZATION AND CULTURE WERE PURE CAUCASIANS MORE RELATED TO ME THAN YOU!

HOW CAN YOU DENY ALL THE GENETIC EVIDENCE I POSTED THAT PROVES INDIANS TODAY ARE MIXED? You are delusional and have an inferiority complex and can't come to terms with the fact that the bringers of your civilization and culture came from outside of India. Why else would the oldest Haplogroup R lineage be found from outside of India from a Caucasian boy 24,000 years ago? R1A1 did not magically appear in India, it was brought there from Haplogroup R migrations and if R1A1 does originate in India it is because it mutated and became R1A1 in India.

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/more-out-of-india-madness/

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/out-of-india-idiots-more-on-indo-european-genes/

More proof that also casts doubt on R1A1's Indian origin but even if it does originate in India, it still doesn't matter since Haplogroup R Y-DNA originally came from outside of India as proven from the Siberian boy.

Anyway, keep denying evidence in favor of your fantasy delusions.

loosing cool calling names is subhuman trait you showing me again n again.you you have half baked knowledge of things. ASI ist same as australoid. you r repeating same stuf over n over whch i refuted already

[MagnusAurelius]

loosing cool calling names is subhuman trait you showing me again n again.you you have half baked knowledge of things. ASI ist same as australoid. you r repeating same stuf over n over whch i refuted already

Hahaha, you have not refuted anything. So typing like a FOB indian in broken english sentances is not a "sub-human" trait either?

Ancestral South Asian, basically Dravidian and yes, they are significantly mixed with Australoids where as ANI are less mixed with those people. I refuted you on every single point you made, you were right about 1 thing, R1A originates in India but that is still not 100% certain. You are mixed race, an Indian who thinks they are more racially pure than a European is 100% delusional like yourself. You still fail to address why European Y-DNA does not originate in India and why R1A in Europe is a different sub-clade further setting them apart from India in addition to Haplogroup R itself, the ancestor of R1A originating outside of India.

You fail to even address these facts because you are wrong. The originators of India itself were racially pure Caucasians, you are nothing but the mixed race result of these people, accept it!

[MagnusAurelius]

You diden't answer my post Sir. Please explain a bit more - WHY you like shitskin women? Do you hate yourself? Do you think racemixing is something good?
Do you have a fetish?

I find women with light brown-brown skin and long black hair to be very attractive. Middle Eastern and North African women being more racially pure than Indians/Pakistani's look like this but there are far less of them where I live so I am gonna end up with more Indian and Pakistani women.

I do not consider it race mixing and you sound like an ignorant biggot referring to them as shitskins when race is not determined by skin color.

To a certain degree, yes it is race mixing but I don't see a problem with having children with a woman who is 70-80% Caucasian genetically, if she is at least 70% Caucasian then that is good enough for me, I could care less if society thinks we are an inte racial union when the facts show she is mostly from my race. Most Indian/Pakistani people in Western Civilization are from the upper castes so they are more racially pure in the range of being 70-80% Caucasian.

[FeederOfRavens]

All this fuss over nothing. Just do whatever you want.

[jatt]

I find women with light brown-brown skin and long black hair to be very attractive. Middle Eastern and North African women being more racially pure than Indians/Pakistani's look like this but there are far less of them where I live so I am gonna end up with more Indian and Pakistani women.

I do not consider it race mixing and you sound like an ignorant biggot referring to them as shitskins when race is not determined by skin color.

To a certain degree, yes it is race mixing but I don't see a problem with having children with a woman who is 70-80% Caucasian genetically, if she is at least 70% Caucasian then that is good enough for me, I could care less if society thinks we are an inte racial union when the facts show she is mostly from my race. Most Indian/Pakistani people in Western Civilization are from the upper castes so they are more racially pure in the range of being 70-80% Caucasian.


man you should stick to middle easterner women, with the attitude u have you cant have stable relationship with indian women. probably like other ignorant fools in net you think ASI means australoid.... i would suggest you to get informed and then talk about these topics...The genetic distance between ASI and negrito populations such as andamanese/Onge is gigantic and they would never be considered even distantly related if not for the fact that Andamanese negritos have been isolated for 25.000+ years and most of their true relatives outside the islands have gone extinct. (The ASI would have killed most if not all of the earlier negritos and australoids living in south asia once they arrived in the region)

In some small isolated tribal groups you can see that some australoid and negrito ancestry has survived, and in the munda speaking austro-asiatic tribes, but this old admixture is completely different and unrelated to ASI.

ASI people did not have negrito or australoid features, so the claims that indians and south asians are mixed with them are completely false, Indians are not Caucasoid/australoid hybrids, they are not Caucasoid/negrito hybrids either, as most indians/south asians completely lack australoid and negrito admixture/ancestry. Thats just how it is.

[MagnusAurelius]

man you should stick to middle easterner women, with the attitude u have you cant have stable relationship with indian women. probably like other ignorant fools in net you think ASI means australoid.... i would suggest you to get informed and then talk about these topics...The genetic distance between ASI and negrito populations such as andamanese/Onge is gigantic and they would never be considered even distantly related if not for the fact that Andamanese negritos have been isolated for 25.000+ years and most of their true relatives outside the islands have gone extinct. (The ASI would have killed most if not all of the earlier negritos and australoids living in south asia once they arrived in the region)

In some small isolated tribal groups you can see that some australoid and negrito ancestry has survived, and in the munda speaking austro-asiatic tribes, but this old admixture is completely different and unrelated to ASI.

ASI people did not have negrito or australoid features, so the claims that indians and south asians are mixed with them are completely false, Indians are not Caucasoid/australoid hybrids, they are not Caucasoid/negrito hybrids either, as most indians/south asians completely lack australoid and negrito admixture/ancestry. Thats just how it is.


LOL, has anyone else ever seen a more delusional Indian? I haven't, this guy lives in a fantasy land. All South Asians are mixed including you, look at this admixture analysis from a cited genetic study.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

The bottom phenotypes though mixed, clearly resemble Australoids, the Melanid types are what the majority of Indians look like, an admixed people! You are believing fantasies if you think Indians are not a mixed race. You only wish Indians were pure Caucasians because you are a stereotypical conservative/traditional Indian who has too much pride in being Indian and being "mixed race" goes against your conservative/traditional values but you cannot deny genetic evidence, Indians are mixed.

http://z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p479250/south_asian_phenotype.jpg

. ASI are people who are mixed between Caucasians and Australoids.

http://www.nature.com/news/genomes-link-aboriginal-australians-to-indians-1.12219 Genomes link aboriginal Australians to Indians. Well your fantasy of Indians being racially pure and beautiful is debunked now! Hahahaha.

Pictures of people from your home state of Punjab, so many people who look heavily mixed with Australoids/Mongoloids

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46024000/jpg/_46024514_picture070.jpg

http://ctgroup.in/contentUploadFiles/CTM6%20087.JPG


LOL, this guy is so delusional he will never see reality, he seriously thinks no Indians resemble Australoids!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2705/4478665924_ea2a444fe8_z.jpg


http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq247/oditous/album3/2844979584_be3ef91ab4_bab.jpg Australoid

Indians.

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Common/Humans/India/India15.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/06/84/f9/0684f95615f4b67c8a1aa60e01f99efc.jpg

In this guys mind, all of India is a racially pure and Aryan and they are the original Europeans but genetics proves him wrong, pictures of Indian people prove him wrong :cool:

[MagnusAurelius]

I like how you convienently deny all the genetic evidence that shows how mixed you and all Indians are, you are pathetic and delusional, your opinion means nothing because it is not back up with facts.

http://dienekes.blogspot.se/2013/08/major-admixture-in-india-took-place-42.html

"Priya Moorjani et al.

Most Indian groups descend from a mixture of two genetically divergent populations: Ancestral North Indians (ANI) related to Central Asians, Middle Easterners, Caucasians, and Europeans; and Ancestral South Indians (ASI) not closely related to groups outside the subcontinent. The date of mixture is unknown but has implications for understanding Indian history. We report genome-wide data from 73 groups from the Indian subcontinent and analyze linkage disequilibrium to estimate ANI-ASI mixture dates ranging from about 1,900 to 4,200 years ago. In a subset of groups, 100% of the mixture is consistent with having occurred during this period. These results show that India experienced a demographic transformation several thousand years ago, from a region in which major population mixture was common to one in which mixture even between closely related groups became rare because of a shift to endogamy. "

You yourself look Caucasian but even Indians who may be Caucasian facially, they still have significant non-Caucasian ancestry and I guarantee you are 20-30% non-Caucasian which sets you apart from the originators of your Civilization who are more related to Europeans and Middle Eastern people which is why Y-DNA Haplogroup R itself originated outside of India in Nothern Siberia with the discovery of the 24,000+ year old Caucasian boy belonging to the oldest lineage of Haplogroup R on earth as proven from an earlier post of mine. The majority Indian population range from being 40-50% Non-Caucasian depending on the person.

Anyway, enjoy your fantasies about being racially pure.

[jatt]

I like how you convienently deny all the genetic evidence that shows how mixed you and all Indians are, you are pathetic and delusional, your opinion means nothing because it is not back up with facts.

http://dienekes.blogspot.se/2013/08/major-admixture-in-india-took-place-42.html

"Priya Moorjani et al.

Most Indian groups descend from a mixture of two genetically divergent populations: Ancestral North Indians (ANI) related to Central Asians, Middle Easterners, Caucasians, and Europeans; and Ancestral South Indians (ASI) not closely related to groups outside the subcontinent. The date of mixture is unknown but has implications for understanding Indian history. We report genome-wide data from 73 groups from the Indian subcontinent and analyze linkage disequilibrium to estimate ANI-ASI mixture dates ranging from about 1,900 to 4,200 years ago. In a subset of groups, 100% of the mixture is consistent with having occurred during this period. These results show that India experienced a demographic transformation several thousand years ago, from a region in which major population mixture was common to one in which mixture even between closely related groups became rare because of a shift to endogamy. "

You yourself look Caucasian but even Indians who may be Caucasian facially, they still have significant non-Caucasian ancestry and I guarantee you are 20-30% non-Caucasian which sets you apart from the originators of your Civilization who are more related to Europeans and Middle Eastern people which is why Y-DNA Haplogroup R itself originated outside of India in Nothern Siberia with the discovery of the 24,000+ year old Caucasian boy belonging to the oldest lineage of Haplogroup R on earth as proven from an earlier post of mine. The majority Indian population range from being 40-50% Non-Caucasian depending on the person.

Anyway, enjoy your fantasies about being racially pure.

I believe what I see with my eyes. not on internet pictures. how many indian you met in Canada whom look like that. you keep saying Indians in Canada are higher class lol... dude higher classes don't immigrate to other countries. selective pictures can be misleading. india has a billion people. more than twice whole of Europe. there are lot of tribals in central indian states but even they don't look australoid other than nigritos of Andaman islands.. look at the location of the Andaman islands .. they are located far from india and much close to south east asia. but you are stubborn and keep denying.. I can post pictures of australoid looking Italians and some even pygmy looking so what...

[jatt]

ASI ( ANCESTRAL SOUTH INDIAN) wast australoid. whatever mixture we have is prehistoric. when humans were still settling down out of Africa.. get this fact in your think head

[jatt]

Light skin in Europeans stems from ONE 10,000-year-old ancestor who lived between India and the Middle East, claims study

Study focused on DNA differences across globe with the A111T mutation
Those who had mutation also shared traces of an ancestral genetic code
This indicates that all instances of mutation originate from same person
The mutated segment of DNA was itself created from a combination of two other mutations commonly found in East Asians

By Ellie Zolfagharifard

PUBLISHED: 17:36, 7 January 2014 | UPDATED: 17:39, 7 January 2014

Light skin in Europeans stems from a gene mutation from a single person who lived 10,000 years ago.

This is according to a new U.S. study that claims the colour is due to an ancient ancestor who lived somewhere between the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent.

Scientists made the discovery after identifying a key gene that contributes to lighter skin colour in Europeans.

In earlier research, Keith Cheng from Penn State College of Medicine reported that one amino acid difference in the gene SLC24A5 is a key contributor to the skin colour difference between Europeans and West Africans.

‘The mutation in SLC24A5 changes just one building block in the protein, and contributes about a third of the visually striking differences in skin tone between peoples of African and European ancestry,’ he said.

He added the lighter skin colour may have provided an advantage due to the better creation of vitamin D from sunlight in the dark northern latitudes.

Building on this research, Professor Victor Canfield worked with Professor Cheng to study DNA sequence differences across the globe

They studied segments of genetic code that have a mutation and are located closely on the same chromosome and are often inherited together.

The a mutation, called A111T, is found in virtually every one of European ancestry.

A111T is also found in populations in the Middle East and Indian subcontinent, but not in high numbers in Africans.
Penn State College of Medicine's Keith Cheng identified a key gene that contributes to lighter skin colour in Europeans and differs from West Africans

They discovered that all individuals from the Middle East, North Africa, East Africa and South India who carry the A111T mutation share traces of the ancestral genetic code.

According to the researchers, this indicates that all existing instances of this mutation originate from the same person.

The pattern of people with this lighter skin colour mutation suggests that the A111T mutation occurred somewhere between the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent.

‘This means that Middle Easterners and South Indians, which includes most inhabitants of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, share significant ancestry,’ Professor Cheng said.

This mutated segment of DNA was itself created from a combination of two other mutated segments commonly found in Eastern Asians - traditionally defined as Chinese, Japanese and Korean.

‘The coincidence of this interesting form of evidence of shared ancestry of East Asians with Europeans, within this tiny chromosomal region, is exciting,’ said Professor Cheng.

‘The combining of segments occurred after the ancestors of East Asians and Europeans split geographically more than 50,000 years ago; the A111T mutation occurred afterward.’

Professor Cheng now plans to look at more genetic samples to better understand what genes play the most important role in East Asian skin colour.

[jatt]

ANCIENT EUROPE WAS A 'MELTING POT' WITH A JUMBLED ANCESTORY

Newly released genomes from around a dozen early inhabitants of Europe suggest that the continent was once a melting pot in which brown-eyed farmers encountered blue-eyed hunter-gatherers.

A report in Nature claims that present-day Europeans have ancestry from three groups in various combinations:

Hunter-gatherers, some of them blue-eyed, who came from Africa more than 40,000 years ago
Middle Eastern farmers who migrated west much more recently
A mysterious population whose range may have spanned northern Europe and Siberia

These three groups were identified from the genomes of 8,000-year-old hunter-gatherers - one man from Luxembourg and seven individuals from Sweden - as well as the genome of a 7,500-year-old woman from Germany. The study was led by the University of Tübingen in Germany.

The research suggests that the individuals from Luxembourg and Spain probably had dark-skin and blue eyes. The German woman, meanwhile, had brown eyes and lighter skin, and was related to Middle Eastern groups.

Both the Luxembourg hunter-gatherer and the German farmer had a gene that breaks down saliva - and a feature that may have came about due to agricultural life.

However, neither of them had the ability to digest the sugar lactose, found in milk. The trait originally emerged in the Middle East after the domestication of cattle and later spread to Europe.

Previous studies suggested that Europeans today largely descended from Middle Eastern farmers.

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[MagnusAurelius]

What is your point? All those groups of people were just various types of Caucasian racial types mixing with each other. Hahahahaha, you always ignore it when I prove you wrong and you say something completely different, have fun being a mixed race Indian and enjoy your 20-30% Non-Caucasian/Aryan ancestry that sets you apart from the originators of your civilization.

What ever happened to your fantasy that your ancestors were the original Europeans? This evidence you show contradicts what you said before.

[MagnusAurelius]

ASI ( ANCESTRAL SOUTH INDIAN) wast australoid. whatever mixture we have is prehistoric. when humans were still settling down out of Africa.. get this fact in your think head


Ancestral South Indians are not fully Australoid but they are highly mixed with them while Ancestral North Indians are less mixed with them. You are the one with the thick head, are you blind? These Indians clearly resemble Australoids.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2705/4478665924_ea2a444fe8_z.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq247/oditous/album3/2844979584_be3ef91ab4_bab.jpg


Now you believe the only mixture Indians have is pre-historic, you are the delusional thick one here, not me. I am proving you wrong every time with genetic studies and pictures. Does anyone else agree with me here? I feel like I am communicating with a rock who ignores all facts in favor of his ignorant opinion.

http://www.nature.com/news/genomes-link-aboriginal-australians-to-indians-1.12219 Genomes link aboriginal Australians to Indians.


"Priya Moorjani et al.

Most Indian groups descend from a mixture of two genetically divergent populations: Ancestral North Indians (ANI) related to Central Asians, Middle Easterners, Caucasians, and Europeans; and Ancestral South Indians (ASI) not closely related to groups outside the subcontinent. The date of mixture is unknown but has implications for understanding Indian history. We report genome-wide data from 73 groups from the Indian subcontinent and analyze linkage disequilibrium to estimate ANI-ASI mixture dates ranging from about 1,900 to 4,200 years ago. In a subset of groups, 100% of the mixture is consistent with having occurred during this period. These results show that India experienced a demographic transformation several thousand years ago, from a region in which major population mixture was common to one in which mixture even between closely related groups became rare because of a shift to endogamy. "

The mixture is not pre-historic, the majority of India's population are a highly admixed people while about 25% of the Indian-Subcontinent total are 70-80% Caucasian genetically, you fall into that category, you are not racially pure and you will never be.

[Toscano]

What is your point? All those groups of people were just various types of Caucasian racial types mixing with each other. Hahahahaha, you always ignore it when I prove you wrong and you say something completely different, have fun being a mixed race Indian and enjoy your 20-30% Non-Caucasian/Aryan ancestry that sets you apart from the originators of your civilization.

What ever happened to your fantasy that your ancestors were the original Europeans? This evidence you show contradicts what you said before.


How can you be eurocentric and by the same time admit that you prefer blacker lower race women? Is it a dirty fetisch or what?

[jatt]

Tuscano dUde don't test my patience. Watch what shit u writing man. U can stick to ur European women none here stoping u just learn how to write in public forum. Anyone can flame no big deal. But u showing ur intelligence level by writing shit

[MagnusAurelius]

Tuscano dUde don't test my patience. Watch what shit u writing man. U can stick to ur European women none here stoping u just learn how to write in public forum. Anyone can flame no big deal. But u showing ur intelligence level by writing shit


You are also showing yours by constantly typing improper english and writing like a teenager. Have fun being in denial about Indians not being mixed race.

[MagnusAurelius]

How can you be eurocentric and by the same time admit that you prefer blacker lower race women? Is it a dirty fetisch or what?

You are an ignorant idiot, race is not determined by skin color and many Indian and Pakistanis in Western Civilization are 70-80% Caucasian genetically.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/skincolor.html

[jatt]

You are also showing yours by constantly typing improper english and writing like a teenager. Have fun being in denial about Indians not being mixed race.
I type from phone when I am not at home. You ar in denial mode dude inspite of given so many proofs of indian genetic continuity from India to Europe u keep harping on same points again n again. I have nothing against u or Italians rather r I have always apriciated their work ethics and love to work with them. I have many Italian clients but dear you gotta understand telling Indians they are mixed is plain wrong

[MagnusAurelius]

I type from phone when I am not at home. You ar in denial mode dude inspite of given so many proofs of indian genetic continuity from India to Europe u keep harping on same points again n again. I have nothing against u or Italians rather r I have always apriciated their work ethics and love to work with them. I have many Italian clients but dear you gotta understand telling Indians they are mixed is plain wrong

LOL, so where is your proof that it is plain wrong?

1. Fantasy Land Jatt believes the original Europeans were from India

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_European_populations All European Y haplogroups do not even originate in India except for R1A, R1A might originate in India but even then, R1A in Europe is a different subclade than the R1A in India so it is not a direct descendant from Indian R1A.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations Even Ancient DNA of Europe does not come from India.

2. Fantasy Land Jatt believes Indians are not mixed race.

You really think all Indians are pure Caucasians? 95% of Indians are not pure Caucasians.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html Global Admixture analysis shows how mixed Indian and Pakistani ethnic groups are.

http://www.nature.com/news/genomes-link-aboriginal-australians-to-indians-1.12219 Aboriginal Australoids genetic link with India.

Have fun believing you are not mixed race when genetics proves you wrong.




Another picture from your craphole home of Punjab, many Individuals are highly mixed with Australoids here. I circled all of the most mixed looking Punjabis in this crowd, all the ones circled only have 50-55% Caucasian ancestry, the ones not circled are more racially pure but only at 70-80% Caucasian. All of them are a mixed race people! At least 25% of this crowd are men who are only 50-55% Caucasian genetically. None of you are pure Aryan, have fun believing you are.

http://s7.postimg.org/ecx0agcyh/mixedpunjabs.jpg


LOL! Pure Aryan Indians, Legions of weak short pathetic mixed race men.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KWYFbk6Ve8I/Ug8ibMOX_iI/AAAAAAAAEcg/qfJBn0HlxQM/s1600/Asafwala%2BBorder-763472.jpg


The weak thin and short mixed race Indian army.

http://www.dailybackgrounds.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/the-indian-army.jpg


These men are the size of a female Italian soldier.

http://i.imgur.com/Q7RlluU.jpg

Here is a racially pure Aryan Army, stronger, taller and more intimidating than the pathetic mixed Indian men :cool:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/2june2006_134.jpg

https://fusiondotnet.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/gty_italian_army_150501.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=1600&h=900&crop=1

[Toscano]

You are an ignorant idiot, race is not determined by skin color and many Indian and Pakistanis in Western Civilization are 70-80% Caucasian genetically.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/skincolor.html

When i look at autosomal results from that people you hold so dear. I can tell they got some admixture from white europeans. But they are still not white in any sense. They are part austroloid if you dident know. And you linking to pseudo-science. That's good.

Have you even done a genetic test yourself? Newworlders like you often have hidden african and/or native american admixture.

[MagnusAurelius]

When i look at autosomal results from that people you hold so dear. I can tell they got some admixture from white europeans. But they are still not white in any sense. They are part austroloid if you dident know. And you linking to pseudo-science. That's good.

Have you even done a genetic test yourself? Newworlders like you often have hidden african and/or native american admixture.

You think this is pseudo science?

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html

Yes I know it would be race mixing if I had a child with an Indian or Pakistani woman but as I said before, I am perfectly fine with creating offspring with a woman who is at least 70% Caucasian genetically, I just gotta get an admixture analysis on a woman who would end up being my girlfriend who is Indian or Pakistani. I really don't know how I will do that, for South Asians on 23andme it just says "South Asians" it doesn't specify if their ancestry is Ancestral North Indian (the more racially pure Desi people in the range of 70-80% Caucasian) or Ancestral South Indians who are only 30-55% Caucasian depending on the person.

If you didn't notice, Jatt is still under the delusional fantasy that Indian people are racially pure and his ancestors were the original people in Europe, it is very laughable.

[Longbowman]

Magnus, arguing for Indian whiteness, arguing against Indian whiteness, arguing for the sake of arguing really, not interested in making friends or creating allies? Jatt might be delusional but for someone who claims he wants to marry an Indian you don't seem to really like Indians.

[revenger]

Doesn't look like it? You are wrong idiot, I am Atlantid/Dinaric, most Italians are Atlanto-Mediteranean/Atlantid/Dinaric or a mix of these 3 Caucasian racial types, more in North and Central Italy. I was also wrong about my ancestry, I thought I was half Scottish/Irish but my mother has many Italians in her family, my mothers mom and dad both have Italian ancestry, her dad is half but I am not sure about her mom. I didn't know the exact number of people or the exact amount of Italian ancestry on her side when I said this so I just said I was half Scottish/Irish. After going through the family tree on her side I have found out that I am really 70% Italian and 30% Scottish/Irish.

The majority of Italians are Atlanto-Mediteranean/Dinaric and at least 70% of them total are this racial type. You can see many of them in these pictures.

http://www.bringitusa.com/italy/blog/images/Team_Booster_Party.jpg

http://www.bringitusa.com/italy/blog/images/Frittella.jpg

Here are some Atlanto Mediterranean Italian men who resemble me.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2d9tgfb.jpg

http://www.datingskillsreview.com/images/stories/jreviews/1354_Janka2_1280196966.jpg

Italian crowd, clearly many Dinarics/Atlantomeds in the crowd.

http://www.blitzquotidiano.it/wp/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/small_110213-173823_mi130211cro_0051.jpg

ancestry is based on grandparents, great-grandparents etc..you can't be 70/30, anyhow a small % doesnt count. You could pass in Italy that is a populous country but in those pics you didn't scream Italian, look it's also influenced by environment and style though.

[Neon Knight]

I am making no personal judgement, but to answer the original question, if all Italians mixed with Indians then that would be the end of Italians as we know them (although there would still be plenty of Indians left).

[jatt]

Those Italians posted are ugly weaklings by our standards. I will show what jatts r when I am free. Even Magnus knows jatts r better y he's attracted to jatt women ore than Italian but won't admit it here. Real world outside Italians are low casts of Europe spit on by others. Italains not better than a jatts feet. Those Italians posted r probably the best they got lol lol

[jatt]

Indians don't like albino looks by the wAy so showing us how albino like ur people r is foolish. We cherish jatt type look. I think Italians like jatt type look as well from my experience with Italians.

[MagnusAurelius]

Why is this guy still posting? I already proved you wrong, you are not racially pure, your ancestors were not the original people in Europe. Italians are not the "low casts" of Europe, the co-founders of Western Civilization who dominated Europe for 1000+ years. It is you Indians who are the "low castes" of the Caucasian race due not being racially pure. Jatt Sikh men are very Short! Calling Italian men weak and pathetic when Indians/Jatts/Punjabs are among the weakest and shortest men on earth.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3190178

Short pathetic Jatts, 5'7 on average for males and that is 17-25 years of age, usually younger people are shorter. In more recent times people have grown a lot taller but you can compare that with this, Italian men born in 1983, they would be 32 today. They are taller than the younger Jatts and they are also older, 5'8 1/2 on average.

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statura#Italia

Overall the average Italian man 18-40 is either 5'9 or 5'9 1/2.

The average younger Italian men 18-30 is either 5'10 or 5'10 1/2.

http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/height-chart.shtml

Average non-rural Indian male is only 5'5 ages 18-49.

Average Punjabi male 18-40 today is probably only 5'7

Average Punjabi male 18-30 is probably only 5'8

Pretty laughable how you would be so ignorant and say Italians are weak when Indians and Jatts are among the shortest/weakest men on earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#Average_height_around_the_world

[MagnusAurelius]

Those Italians posted are ugly weaklings by our standards. I will show what jatts r when I am free. Even Magnus knows jatts r better y he's attracted to jatt women ore than Italian but won't admit it here. Real world outside Italians are low casts of Europe spit on by others. Italains not better than a jatts feet. Those Italians posted r probably the best they got lol lol

I don't care if I find Indian women more attractive than Italian women, it is also enjoyable walking in public with a beautiful Indian girl holding hands while she is wearing traditional Indian clothing, get a lot of angry looks from pathetic closed minded fobs like you who are obsessed with being Indian and consider yourself Indian first and Canadian second. Go back to your Indian shit hole :thumb001:

You Jatts do not even originate in India! Genetics proves it!

http://www.jatland.com/home/Jats#Jat_People_Genetics Here is why you are not racially pure.This indicates that for the female mtDNA, there is very little connection with Central Asian and northwest European populations, even though Jats share many Y-SNP markers with these populations. Therefore, this DNA Study proves that there has been male DNA into the Jat people from Ukrainian Scythians (Saka, Massagetae) and White Huns.[107]

The Jat Regiment in the Indian army, more short and thin highly mixed looking men!

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SVXMxdPF-Mw/maxresdefault.jpg

http://blogika3.nolblog.hu/files/2015/02/AK-11.jpg

Funny how you insult the way Italian soldiers look when it is very clear Indian soldiers look timid by comparison in addition to being short and weak!

[MagnusAurelius]

Indians don't like albino looks by the wAy so showing us how albino like ur people r is foolish. We cherish jatt type look. I think Italians like jatt type look as well from my experience with Italians.

"Indians don't like albino looks" - Delusional Fob Jatt May 21 2015


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH2clfEPxAU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqXiPCI0OTs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgBevCTBTJw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxjs_wKUHE

[MagnusAurelius]

Okay Jatt, can't wait to see the next delusional post you make, enjoy your inferiority complex.

[jatt]

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo/46021540.cmshttp://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/2015/1/d0382c25-60be-4e00-8240-719711735302Wallpaper2.JPG
http://files.prokerala.com/news/photos/imgs/800/amritsar-punjab-police-during-full-dress-262120.jpg

indian women are taller than Italian men

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zUe7sq7m3h0/TTwsvHu8ckI/AAAAAAAABYU/bg__PmJ2NdY/s1600/The%2BPunjab%2BRegiment.jpg


indian army Sikh regiment all look taller than Italian army men

[jatt]

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because of ferocious looks tall stature of jatt Sikh they get hired as bank guards in honk kong and many other part of world

[jatt]

Okay Jatt, can't wait to see the next delusional post you make, enjoy your inferiority complex.

confidence and pride is another name of jatt. if you wanna know whats inferiority complex check threads about Italians. they have low self confidence and think north euro albinos are their gods.. lol

[jatt]

http://www.oldpicz.com/picz/2015/03/An-Italian-soldier-surrendering-to-an-Indian-soldier-in-North-Africa-at-the-onset-of-Operation-Crusader-Nov-1941.jpg

Italian soldier surrendering to indian soldiers 1941... operation crusader north Africa

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_n34jHsvJD_A/RzRAz_dq7vI/AAAAAAAADEM/aFL33Q1eYxM/s400/42920938_20cbffa9d8_o.jpg

indian soldiers inspecting captured guns of Italians

http://www.sikhnet.com/files/news/2010/May/sikhwar003.jpg

European women like always admiring Aryan Sikh jatts

[jatt]

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/950/687/5647d5645d0634c59ea8212913cd47d0_crop_exact.jpg?w= 1500&h=1500&q=85

biggest Canadian... jatt who make other huge people look small

[MagnusAurelius]

http://www.oldpicz.com/picz/2015/03/An-Italian-soldier-surrendering-to-an-Indian-soldier-in-North-Africa-at-the-onset-of-Operation-Crusader-Nov-1941.jpg

Italian soldier surrendering to indian soldiers 1941... operation crusader north Africa

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_n34jHsvJD_A/RzRAz_dq7vI/AAAAAAAADEM/aFL33Q1eYxM/s400/42920938_20cbffa9d8_o.jpg

indian soldiers inspecting captured guns of Italians

http://www.sikhnet.com/files/news/2010/May/sikhwar003.jpg

European women like always admiring Aryan Sikh jatts

You Jatt scum are not Aryan, YOU ARE MIXED! HAHAHAHA, YOU ARE JUST A DELUSIONAL PATHETIC FOB INDIAN LOSER AND I AM SURE MOST INDIANS WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THE PURITY OF INDIAN PEOPLE AHAHAHAHAH.

http://www.jatland.com/home/Jats#Jat_People_Genetics

Jatt MTDNA has very little connection with Central Asian (Middle East) and European populations, you are not racially pure or fully Aryan delusional fool.

"The mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) female DNA, Jats contain haplogroups typical of Northern India, Pakistan, and West Asia. This indicates that for the female mtDNA, there is very little connection with Central Asian and northwest European populations, even though Jats share many Y-SNP markers with these populations."

Hahahaha, you are pathetic, posting Indian soldiers who beat Italian soldiers while the Indians were just Colonial subjects of the British Empire only in World War 2 because the British Empire made them participate. One of the most humiliating military defeats of all time, the superior Southern European Macedonian/Greek army of Alexander the Great destroys the Punjabs in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Hydaspes

http://www.ancient.eu/article/660/ Alexanders army was really 7000-10,000 strong, not 40,000, someone changed it to 40,000 on wiki and it has no citation. Outnumbered 5 to 1 the Indians still lost, the Indians also had 1000 chariots and 85 war elephants yet they still lost.

[jatt]

You Jatt scum are not Aryan, YOU ARE MIXED! HAHAHAHA, YOU ARE JUST A DELUSIONAL PATHETIC FOB INDIAN LOSER AND I AM SURE MOST INDIANS WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THE PURITY OF INDIAN PEOPLE AHAHAHAHAH.

http://www.jatland.com/home/Jats#Jat_People_Genetics

Jatt MTDNA has very little connection with Central Asian (Middle East) and European populations, you are not racially pure or fully Aryan delusional fool.

"The mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) female DNA, Jats contain haplogroups typical of Northern India, Pakistan, and West Asia. This indicates that for the female mtDNA, there is very little connection with Central Asian and northwest European populations, even though Jats share many Y-SNP markers with these populations."

Hahahaha, you are pathetic, posting Indian soldiers who beat Italian soldiers while the Indians were just Colonial subjects of the British Empire only in World War 2 because the British Empire made them participate. One of the most humiliating military defeats of all time, the superior Southern European Macedonian/Greek army of Alexander the Great destroys the Punjabs in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Hydaspes

http://www.ancient.eu/article/660/ Alexanders army was really 7000-10,000 strong, not 40,000, someone changed it to 40,000 on wiki and it has no citation. Outnumbered 5 to 1 the Indians still lost, the Indians also had 1000 chariots and 85 war elephants yet they still lost.

hahahahaahahha it was Punjabis but not jatt whom he fought.. jatt at the time were living south and when he met Aryan malhi jatts... he made a U turn back to Europe. while he was running back malhi jatts arrow stuck him wounding him fatally . he couldn't cover from the wound n died. but greek history is made of fairy tales like 300spartans stoping a million strong Persian army...lol... u goota be fool to belive such pseudo history

[MagnusAurelius]

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because of ferocious looks tall stature of jatt Sikh they get hired as bank guards in honk kong and many other part of world


I don't care, the average height of Indian and Jatt/Punjabi men is still shorter than the average Italian man and most men accross the world. Go back to India since you are so proud of your shit hole country, you are obviously Indian first and Canadian second in your mind. I think most non-Indian people would find it laughable that an Indian has so much pride and thinks being Indian is so much better than being any other race/ethnicity. You people have nothing, you people have done nothing for the world in terms of technology and other advancements since early Ancient times, your home country is a shit hole and you are just a leech living in Canada for a good life because Western Governments let you people live here.


"indian women are taller than Italian men" Delusional pathetic fob May 22 2015
Men Women
Italy - Middle & North 176.9 cm (5' 9.7") 163.2 cm (5' 4.2")
Men Women
Italy - South 174.2 cm (5' 8.0") 160.8 cm (5' 3.3")


India - Men Women
164.7 cm (5 ft 5 in) 151.9 cm (5 ft 0 in)

I prove you wrong with facts every time, you now ignore the evidence I posted before that proves Indians are mixed and the first people of Europe did not originate in India. You can't even prove me wrong because you can't find any evidence that proves it wrong, haha. You think I care if some Indians beat Italians in WW2? Italies WW2 army was not equipped well and they had bad officers but Italy still dominated Europe,North Africa and parts of the Middle East for over 700 years. India on the other hand is a history of a weak and defeated , now mixed race and lesser mixed race people who have been humiliated in battle by Alexanders Army, conquered by many foreign Empires, the Muslims,Mughals, British Empire, Portuguese Empire, Dutch Empire. India has been conquered so many times, you would think a nation with a huge population would be harder to conquer but no, they are weak and pathetic.

I really don't know why you are trying to argue the strength of India, most people would agree that India would be defeated badly in a war with China and even more badly defeated if they were in a war with Europe or USA.

[MagnusAurelius]

hahahahaahahha it was Punjabis but not jatt whom he fought.. jatt at the time were living south and when he met Aryan malhi jatts... he made a U turn back to Europe. while he was running back malhi jatts arrow stuck him wounding him fatally . he couldn't cover from the wound n died. but greek history is made of fairy tales like 300spartans stoping a million strong Persian army...lol... u goota be fool to belive such pseudo history

Again, making things up with no facts, what does it matter that Jatts injured him when he brutally defeated them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malhi

They never forced Alexanders army out, his army didn't wanna march any further because they were waging war for over 10 years and his army would have mutinied.

[jatt]

Again, making things up with no facts, what does it matter that Jatts injured him when he brutally defeated them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malhi

They never forced Alexanders army out, his army didn't wanna march any further because they were waging war for over 10 years and his army would have mutinied.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp4aH0q3zGQ

watch the video. :D

[jatt]

dude stop being jealous.. jatts are master race .. acknowledge n end the debate :D

[MagnusAurelius]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp4aH0q3zGQ

watch the video. :D

Did you even read this? Alexanders defeat on these pathetic primitive Jatts lead to their eventual downfall, you are so proud of this, ahahah, they injured and probably killed their leader but at the price of being defeated themselves, hahahaha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malhi

"Malhis once controlled the city of Multan, its surrounding areas and parts of the Malwa region of Rajasthan. Their influence had dwindled to control only of Multan by the time that Alexander the Great arrived. He laid siege on the city after the Malhi refused his demand of unconditional surrender in return for their lives and birthrights, The siege was prolonged and bloody, ending in defeat for the Malhi and massacre of the city's inhabitants.[1] After this battle Alexander's army refused to march deeper into the Indian subcontinent and headed toward Persia. A common theory is that an arrow injury sustained during the siege by Alexander later led to his death.[citation needed]

After the defeat inflicted by Alexander, the Malhi numbers shrank significantly and the Malhi lost control over all their previous territories and faded from history and appeared very infrequently in recorded history. As the rivers in the Multan region began to dry up, the Malhi moved eastward for more fertile land and arrived in North-East Punjab like many other Jats. In the reign of Shahjahan, Rai Jani (being converted to Islam, called Muhammad Jani), an ancestor of the Badhomalhi family and a descendent of Baddo facilitating a large portion of Malhi to convert to Islam, and in turn were granted a Jagir by Shahjahan. This Jagir extended from Eminabad(Gujranwala district) to Naurangabad (tehsil Raya).[2]"

The pathetic Jatts lost the battle.

[MagnusAurelius]

dude stop being jealous.. jatts are master race .. acknowledge n end the debate :D

So a primitive mixed race farming people who have not done anything for humanity in terms of technological development are now a master race? You are just some pathetic Indian fob obsessed with being Indian, you probably have no non-Desi friends, if only Canada would deport you back to your shit hole. Why would I be jealous of a primitive people? LOL. Have fun being delusional.

[jatt]

So a primitive mixed race farming people who have not done anything for humanity in terms of technological development are now a master race? You are just some pathetic Indian fob obsessed with being Indian, you probably have no non-Desi friends, if only Canada would deport you back to your shit hole. Why would I be jealous of a primitive people? LOL. Have fun being delusional. jatts have given a lot to world and doing their bit in Canada too.. I have lots of non desi friends just because u n me have difference of opinion doesn't mean I am any less Canadian than u. its u whos being obnoxious.

[MagnusAurelius]

jatts have given a lot to world and doing their bit in Canada too.. I have lots of non desi friends just because u n me have difference of opinion doesn't mean I am any less Canadian than u. its u whos being obnoxious.

You are the one who believes Indians are racially pure, that Indians are the original people of Europe, both of which I proved wrong. Jatts are doing nothing, just because a people are a model minority doesn't mean they are contributing to the world. All technological advancements since the 1800's or at least 90% of them are because of Caucasian European men, White European men run this planet and that is how it will always be, the entire world has depended on Western Civilization since the 1800's for technological advancements or any kind of advancement. What have Punjabis/Jatts or Indians done for the world since ancient times? Virtually nothing, all of India degenerated into a mixed race and lesser mixed race cespool after the foundation of Indian Civilization and Culture with the Indus Valley and Vedic Civilizations founded by pure Caucasian people. India will never see it's glory days again.

[jatt]

You are the one who believes Indians are racially pure, that Indians are the original people of Europe, both of which I proved wrong. Jatts are doing nothing, just because a people are a model minority doesn't mean they are contributing to the world. All technological advancements since the 1800's or at least 90% of them are because of Caucasian European men, White European men run this planet and that is how it will always be, the entire world has depended on Western Civilization since the 1800's for technological advancements or any kind of advancement. What have Punjabis/Jatts or Indians done for the world since ancient times? Virtually nothing, all of India degenerated into a mixed race and lesser mixed race cespool after the foundation of Indian Civilization and Culture with the Indus Valley and Vedic Civilizations founded by pure Caucasian people. India will never see it's glory days again.

you are very arrogant dude.. if I start posting what Indians did since ancient times it will take few pages for sure.. perhaps the computer you using has intel Pentium processer. it was designed by jatt. c there you got once contribution from us . Indians I have told you a million times are mix of ASI and ANI n as both components r indian so we are not really mixed.. ASI doest mean australid.. australoid themselves are diverse and are over 80% mongoloid. most anthrolopogist assume australoid to be sub race of Caucasoid... you some how wanna make us Indians believe we are fools who cant do shit on our own and everything n every civilization is European made especially north euro.. you can never be successful with that agenda with indians no matter how much u try,, indian are proud people. I will ask you to give it a rest now. stop fooling yourselves with European gradiosity..ok you made some advances in 18th century and are yet reaping the rewards. you have a hold on worlds scientific papers/journals and media.. your propaganda is strong but it wont work on Indians.

[MagnusAurelius]

you are very arrogant dude.. if I start posting what Indians did since ancient times it will take few pages for sure.. perhaps the computer you using has intel Pentium processer. it was designed by jatt. c there you got once contribution from us . Indians I have told you a million times are mix of ASI and ANI n as both components r indian so we are not really mixed.. ASI doest mean australid.. australoid themselves are diverse and are over 80% mongoloid. most anthrolopogist assume australoid to be sub race of Caucasoid... you some how wanna make us Indians believe we are fools who cant do shit on our own and everything n every civilization is European made especially north euro.. you can never be successful with that agenda with indians no matter how much u try,, indian are proud people. I will ask you to give it a rest now. stop fooling yourselves with European gradiosity..ok you made some advances in 18th century and are yet reaping the rewards. you have a hold on worlds scientific papers/journals and media.. your propaganda is strong but it wont work on Indians.


you are very arrogant dude.. if I start posting what Indians did since ancient times it will take few pages for sure.. perhaps the computer you using has intel Pentium processer. it was designed by jatt. c there you got once contribution from us . Indians I have told you a million times are mix of ASI and ANI n as both components r indian so we are not really mixed.. ASI doest mean australid.. australoid themselves are diverse and are over 80% mongoloid. most anthrolopogist assume australoid to be sub race of Caucasoid... you some how wanna make us Indians believe we are fools who cant do shit on our own and everything n every civilization is European made especially north euro.. you can never be successful with that agenda with indians no matter how much u try,, indian are proud people. I will ask you to give it a rest now. stop fooling yourselves with European gradiosity..ok you made some advances in 18th century and are yet reaping the rewards. you have a hold on worlds scientific papers/journals and media.. your propaganda is strong but it wont work on Indians.

Haha, as I said 90% since 1800's. Where is your proof that Indians are racially pure? You have none. So if Indians are racially pure then how do you explain this? Hahaha, Ancestral North Indians are simply Indians who are less mixed race than Ancestral South Indians who have a higher Australoid racial mixture, this is fact.

http://www.nature.com/news/genomes-link-aboriginal-australians-to-indians-1.12219 So you are gonna deny genetic fact? Genomes link aboriginal Australians to Indians.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oa3bBts6e3M/Ur6VH_81tpI/AAAAAAAAAUI/JGoPs1UmWyA/s1600/Lazaridis2014_EDF3_K6.png All Indian ethnic groups here have significant mixture from another race and they all range from 40-80% Caucasian genetically, you are a mixed race people but you can go on being in denial about it.


If Indians are not mixed then why do those South Indian children resemble Australoids so much? Even the North Indian teacher has facial features like them.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2705/4478665924_ea2a444fe8_z.jpg

http://www.gondwananet.com/images/aboriginal-girl-by-Rusty_Stewart.jpg Australoid girl.


This page has another admixture analysis with many South Asian ethnic groups.

http://www.harappadna.org/2011/04/reference-3-admixture-k11/ The Non-Caucasians here are in Red,Dark Purple, Blue and Dark Pink. All South Asian ethnic groups have 20% or more non-Caucasian ancestry except for Pathans.

So go on wishing Desi people were pure Caucasians, that is pure fantasy and genetic facts will forever prove you wrong. The Pakistani ethnic groups like the Sindhi and Pathans along with Kashmir pandits seem to be more racially pure, they only have 10-15% Non-Caucasian ancestry. A very large population in India, the Gujarati's here have significant non-Caucasian admixture at 20-25%. They probably have even more Non-Caucasian admixture since Ancestral South Asians have some mixture from Non-Caucasians.

[jatt]

dude according to those charts who are decendents of Africans are more Caucasoid than other south Asians.. lol heres how they look

https://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnh7w9oaYI1qipus9o4_500.jpg

another one more Caucasoid than south Asians are nogais .. heres how they look

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af18/oditous2/Europe/3479385035_a7e3e41c20_zNogaischoolfoto.jpg

[MagnusAurelius]

dude according to those charts who are decendents of Africans are more Caucasoid than other south Asians.. lol heres how they look

https://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnh7w9oaYI1qipus9o4_500.jpg

another one more Caucasoid than south Asians are nogais .. heres how they look

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af18/oditous2/Europe/3479385035_a7e3e41c20_zNogaischoolfoto.jpg


Nope, the South Asians there still have a higher blue component than the East African groups. You can keep ignoring facts, all Indians have at least 20% Non-Caucasian ancestry or more, genetics proves this, you are not pure Aryan like me and will never be but keep deluding yourself, I am glad I am not Indian since if I was I would be more mixed, considered a minority and probably have a smaller penis, haha.

[jatt]

http://s.ndtvimg.com/images/content/2014/sep/806/india-fans-england.jpg
http://rackcdn.fansunite.com.au/uploads/assets/11/10001/img_758_412_464090314.jpg


by the way these are your average south Indians.. only jungle beuties are not south Indians

[jatt]

http://images.jagran.com/1493916.jpg

south indian women.... these sort beuties doest happen in australoids

[jatt]

http://static2.iplt20.com/cms/media/images/650x433/16808.jpg

south indian crowd from chenai tamil nadu capital.. people look the most archaic in these parts

[MagnusAurelius]

Some really laughable examples. This guy is seriously trying to argue that Indians are racially pure and more racially pure than Europeans, this is all fantasy! Genetics proves you wrong and the vast majority of people on this forum will disagree with you. You are a racially mixed people, all Indians have at least 20% Non-Caucasian ancestry or more, even if an Indian may look Caucasian they still have at least 20% Non-Caucasian ancestry or more, they are not racially pure. Black Americans all have 8-25% Caucasian ancestry yet they all still look black, that is because you need at least 35% ancestry from another race or more, at that rate you could actually notice a physical difference.

I circled all the individuals who clearly have more than 20% Non-Caucasian ancestry.

http://s30.postimg.org/l17obxukx/mixed.jpg

[jatt]

Lol put up your Italian crowd I will circle them too. Listen man I m done with u. U r an idiot. Keep living in ur fantasy land of European purity when half your women sleeping with all sorts of people since ages. Good bye

[jatt]

There is no point in debating with a fool who believes caucasoid mean looking European shit. Caucasoid look is measured in cranial
metrices of skull. Genetics tell about two populations relative distance or proximity nothing more nothing less. If we believe all that what u said than Mongols r caucasoids

[MagnusAurelius]

Everyone would agree the Idiot here is you, even the Moderator Longbow said you are delusional before. Have fun with your inferiority complex, you are not pure Aryan, all Europeans and Middle Eastern people are more racially pure than you. There are Italian crowd photos in previous posts, you can't circle any, they are all Caucasian. It is obvious many people in that crowd look highly mixed race, what you say is all fantasy, I prove you wrong with evidence and you ignore it in favor of your ignorant delusions.

http://www.nature.com/news/genomes-link-aboriginal-australians-to-indians-1.12219 Genomes link aboriginal Australians to Indians

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/2633384/1/ More cited genetic studies here confirming Indians are a mixed race.

So where is your evidence that Indians are not mixed race? YOU HAVE NONE BECAUSE THAT ISN'T TRUE! HAHAHAAHA, Have fun being an 80% Aryan mixed race mutt.

[MagnusAurelius]

There is no point in debating with a fool who believes caucasoid mean looking European shit. Caucasoid look is measured in cranial
metrices of skull. Genetics tell about two populations relative distance or proximity nothing more nothing less. If we believe all that what u said than Mongols r caucasoids

You are an Indian looking mixed race shit :cool:


So if Indians are such Pure Caucasians then why is it only Middle Eastern and European Ethnic groups who cluster closer genetically while all the Indian and Paki ethnic groups are a lot more distant? YOU ARE NOT CAUCASIAN, LOL. Most delusional Indian I have ever come accross, most Indians agree that they are not racially pure, Genetics proves you wrong, the Admin Longbow called you delusional and the vast majority of people on here would agree that Indians are mixed. You are the most delusional and brainwashed person on this forum, LOL, you have fun being a mixed race 80% Aryan mongrel.

http://i.imgur.com/5soGTCJ.jpg