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NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 08:31 PM
I am writing a report for next week on abortion rights in Europe for next week, and I was googling stuff to copy, and I just found this :D

It is a very important change cuz the decision of the EU parliament are binding and go above national laws, so all countries must comply!
There was some silly Catholic lobby trying to stop it, but sucks for them cuz most people in Europe don't care about their nutty religious views. :lol:





http://www.nationalrighttolifenews.org/news/2015/03/european-parliament-adopts-pro-abortion-report/#.VU0V-pOZKFo

European Parliament: Adopts Pro-Abortion Report

The European Parliament (EP) today passed a resolution adopting the “Tarabella Report.” The report promotes access to abortion as a fundamental right and as part of sexual and reproductive health and rights (SRHR) but also affirmed the right of EU Member States to determine national policy on SRHR issues. The EP has followed a long-standing principle of subsidiarity that on the issue of abortion, the EP does not have “competence,” deferring to individual governments to determine policy.

The “Tarabella Report,” the annual European Parliament report on the equality between women and men in the European Union is named for Belgian MEP Marc Tarabella. It went beyond reporting on equality in the EU and became a radical tool, stating that SRHR includes access to abortion, and advancing support for measures to provide “ready access” to abortion.

Paragraph 45 of the “Tarabella Report” includes:

“Maintains that women must have control over their sexual and reproductive health and rights, not least by having ready access to contraception and abortion; supports, accordingly, measures and actions to improve women’s access to sexual and reproductive health services and inform them more fully about their rights and the services available;”

The resolution on the report was adopted during the EP session in Strasbourg by a vote of 441 to 205 with 52 abstaining. The measure was supported by the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats (S&D group) while the European People’s Party (Christian Democrats), the largest political group in the EP, split its vote.

The report has been described as “contradictory”. According to the Federation of Catholic Family Associations in Europe:

“…the text is contradictory as it also considers abortion in a fundamental rights perspective, a point of view already expressed by the Socialists and Democrats group of which Mr. Tarabella is a member. This political group aims at integrating “the right to abortion” into the Fundamental Rights Charter of the European Union. An aim which is utterly contradictory as the first article of the Charter states that “Human dignity is inviolable. It must be respected and protected” and the second article that “Everyone has the right to life”.

CARE for Europe had worked to amend the report and commented:

“This annual report is supposed to report on the state of equal pay, equal rights and specific rights violations which need the EU to intervene in promoting women’s interests. But among the hopeful and helpful considerations about sexualisation of women, exploitation through trafficking and female genital mutilation, came the familiar Trojan agenda of seeking to push sexual and reproductive health and rights (SRHR) as a fundamental right.”

“On cases where subsidiarity arguments could be applied (it is a competence of the member state not the EU)… it was affirmed that SRHR is not a matter for the EU, but for each national government.”

On Thursday, March 12, the European Parliament will consider another pro-abortion report, the “Panzeri Report,” the Annual Report on Human Rights and Democracy in the World in 2013 and the European Union’s Policy on the matter. This second report also presents abortion as an integral part of sexual and reproductive health and rights for women and girls stating:

“Finds it regrettable that women’s and girls’ bodies, specifically with respect to their sexual and reproductive health and rights, still remain an ideological battleground, and calls for the EU and its Member States to recognise the inalienable rights of women and girls to bodily integrity and autonomous decision-making as regards, inter alia, the right to access voluntary family planning and safe and legal abortion…”

The “Panzeri Report” urges that the European Union during negotiations for the post-2015 agenda at the United Nations, follow a human rights based approach to development that includes abortion as a human right– an assertion that no international treaty supports. It

“Calls on the EU to redouble its efforts to ensure in the upcoming intergovernmental negotiations that the human rights-based approach (HRBA) and the reduction of inequalities become underpinning concepts of post-2015 global development and are also included in concrete fashion in the goals and targets themselves; stresses the need to ensure that the post-2015 agenda includes, inter alia, women’s rights, children’s rights, good governance, democracy and the rule of law, freedom of association and expression, universal health coverage, and sexual and reproductive health and rights, as being key elements for development;”

In the area of developmental aid, the report calls

“for the EU to continue to protect sexual and reproductive health and related rights and highlights the need to place these policies at the core of development cooperation with third countries, and in the future action plan on gender equality and women’s empowerment in development for the 2015-2020 period in particular, including by means of political dialogue and specific actions involving local civil society.”

The Federation of Catholic Family Associations in Europe has a petition against both reports for EU citizens to sign. Support can be expressed until the vote on Thursday; CitizenGo has posted the petition: EU Parliament to vote on the “right to abortion.”

Pro-life advocates are posting messages at #StopEU4abortion.

Mraz
05-08-2015, 08:43 PM
Just kill the few doctors who practice it and any law regarding abortion is void...

NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 08:45 PM
Just kill the few doctors who practice it and any law regarding abortion is void...

I really hope that when Bosnia joins the EU they institute online controls to track murder apologists like yourself :mad:

Mraz
05-08-2015, 08:48 PM
I really hope that when Bosnia joins the EU they institute online controls to track murder apologists like yourself :mad:

I don't apology anything, just telling how most people of the nations who are against murder of foetus think. As for abortions, may people like you practice it as much as possible, it can only make the society more progressive :)

NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 08:49 PM
I don't apology anything, just telling how most people of the nations who are against murder of foetus think. As for abortions, may people like you practice it as much as possible, it can only to make the society more progressive :)

You just suggested that doctors, who are simply doing their job and making life better for women who don't wish to be burdened with an undesired child, should be murdered even if they haven't done anything wrong.

Just nutty criminal thoughts. Let me guess, are you a Muslim?

Mraz
05-08-2015, 08:59 PM
You just suggested that doctors, who are simply doing their job and making life better for women who don't wish to be burdened with an undesired child, should be murdered even if they haven't done anything wrong.

Just nutty criminal thoughts. Let me guess, are you a Muslim?

Just maths, on 100 doctors you'll have 2-3 who'd accept to do that, you'll find easily few nationalists, militants to instill fear to the targets and force them to give up.

Also genius, a resolution from European Parliament is nothing less than words, it has no value since there are no obligations and no sanctions.

NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 09:08 PM
Just maths, on 100 doctors you'll have 2-3 who'd accept to do that, you'll find easily few nationalists, militants to instill fear to the targets and force them to give up.

This is why stronger police and surveillance are needed to target dangerous people with dangerous ideas, seems your murder apologists antics could qualify you for it, so they're prevented from harming society and can simply be rehabilitated in the right facilities.

Trun
05-08-2015, 09:10 PM
women who don't wish to be burdened with an undesired child

They should have thought about it when they took it between their legs.

NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 09:12 PM
They should have thought about it when they took it between their legs.

No need to worry about that. Science and law gives plenty of solutions now.

Trun
05-08-2015, 09:14 PM
No need to worry about that. Science and law gives plenty of solutions now.

Abortion isn't one of them.

Buchan
05-08-2015, 09:14 PM
I really hope that when Bosnia joins the EU they institute online controls to track murder apologists like yourself :mad:

The irony.

NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 09:15 PM
Abortion isn't one of them.

Oh well, you're welcome to hold any views you want, it doesn't change the actual laws.

Trun
05-08-2015, 09:17 PM
Oh well, you're welcome to hold any views you want, it doesn't change the actual laws.

What laws? Many countries, such as Ireland and Poland, prohibit abortion except in extreme cases. My country unfortunately isn't one of them, and it's one of the reasons for negative population growth.

NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 09:20 PM
What laws? Many countries, such as Ireland and Poland, prohibit abortion except in extreme cases. My country unfortunately isn't one of them, and it's one of the reasons for negative population growth.

For starters the law of the United Kingdom which is the one that matters the most to me. If a girl wants to get an abortion, she gets it, no questions asked and no big drama will follow.

I am interested in the EU leading all the continent into the same place and that's why I care about this sort of resolution and discussion. The people of Europe must know that the only future they have is progressive thinking, and that the only questions to ask is how to implement it.

If not they are welcome to leave, lose all the privileges of living in the EU and try their luck with Putin, or Iran or whatever country that shares their worldview.

Trun
05-08-2015, 09:22 PM
If not they are welcome to leave, lose all the privileges of living in the EU and try their luck with Putin, or Iran or whatever country that shares their worldview.

Undemocratic approach. Would not happen.

NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 09:27 PM
Undemocratic approach. Would not happen.

It is already happening. Not only with abortion but with the rights of the LGBT community as well.

Even in countries that aren't formally part of the EU yet, ammends are being made to their laws and their societies so that they are progressively compatible with the advanced countries of the West.

My granddaddy's country is also going in that direction and I'm very glad :), even if the archaic Georgian Church tries to stop it but it won't have any use.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2014/05/gay-rights-georgia

Davit Usupashvili, the parliamentary speaker, said that the anti-discrimination bill represented a choice between Russia and the EU. After frantic negotiations behind the scenes, parliament adopted it unanimously.

It is an even bigger responsibility for countries that are already in the EU like Bulgaria. You joined the West and get its help, now you must comply with what is expected.

Trun
05-08-2015, 09:30 PM
It is an even bigger responsibility for countries that are already in the EU like Bulgaria. You joined the West and get its help, now you must comply with what is expected.

People don't want it. Vox populi, vox Dei.

NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 09:33 PM
People don't want it. Vox populi, vox Dei.

You can try to hold a referendum to leave the EU then and get closer to Russia then.

Our countries are not going to transfer funds to places where homophobic discrimination takes place and that is very clear in EU law.
I'm pretty sure that whatever backwards and religious ideas Bulgarians hold will come second to the prospect of losing assistance from our part.

Trun
05-08-2015, 09:35 PM
You can try to hold a referendum to leave the EU then and get closer to Russia then.

Our countries are not going to transfer funds to places where homophobic discrimination takes place and that is very clear in EU law.
I'm pretty sure that whatever backwards and religious ideas Bulgarians hold will come second to the prospect of losing assistance from our part.

There is no LGBT discrimination in Bulgaria. But most people are against parades and showing off. Also against same-sex marriages.

EU is an economic union, they cannot impose such laws on any member.

NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 09:39 PM
There is no LGBT discrimination in Bulgaria. But most people are against parades and showing off. Also against same-sex marriages.

EU is an economic union, they cannot impose such laws on any member.

I'm afraid you're wrong.
The Common Law of the European Union supercedes the laws of national countries.

http://www.europedia.moussis.eu/books/Book_2/2/3/3/index.tkl

In fact, according to the Court of Justice, the Member States have definitively transferred sovereign rights to the Community (and now the Union) they created, and they cannot subsequently go back on that transfer through unilateral measures [see Case 6/64], unless they decide to break away from the EU. If they do not opt for such a radical measure, they cannot contravene European legislation, to the making of which they have contributed, by invoking their national, even their constitutional law.

The original Treaty of Rome was just an economic union, but since the integration process got another boost a few decades ago, it's a legal and political union :)

You are in the EU, you get the help you need and you will be required to defend a progressive worldview. If you don't want to, then leave. But I'm sure most Bulgarians won't have the guts to try that :lol:

Anima Libera
05-08-2015, 09:39 PM
They should have thought about it when they took it between their legs.

They couldve been incestually raped or hold a crippled child that could risk their life, then abortion would be necessary.

dude
05-08-2015, 09:56 PM
Abortion is not my business. To each their own.

Prisoner Of Ice
05-08-2015, 10:08 PM
I really hope that when Bosnia joins the EU they institute online controls to track murder apologists like yourself :mad:

I suspect it's very likely with bosnians someone gets tracked and someone does something, but I don't think it will work out in a way you like much.

NatiaCutie
05-08-2015, 10:29 PM
I suspect it's very likely with bosnians someone gets tracked and someone does something, but I don't think it will work out in a way you like much.

Brilliant. Must have taken you a lot of time to come up with that :lol:

Atvend
05-08-2015, 10:36 PM
Abortion is not my business. To each their own.

It becomes your business when the mother of your child decides to abort and you can do nothing about it.

dude
05-11-2015, 01:15 PM
It becomes your business when the mother of your child decides to abort and you can do nothing about it.
Righteous right wing people should not be having "unprotected" sex out of wedlock. People should be more worried about actually practicing what they preach and then abortion won't be an issue, right?

LightHouse89
05-11-2015, 01:18 PM
Not shocked your pro Subhuman views and political stances. Am I shocked other subhumans have adopted it? No.

The only thing I am waiting for is the military coup against Democratic institutions and entire over throw of Liberalism once and for all. The shadow of subhumanity in the western world will be defeated.

LightHouse89
05-11-2015, 01:19 PM
Righteous right wing people should not be having "unprotected" sex out of wedlock. People should be more worried about actually practicing what they preach and then abortion won't be an issue, right?

right wing people are a joke.

If they had any brains they would realize the only way to change the system is to take it over by brute force. Seize the government and exterminate political opposition. Problem solved.

LightHouse89
05-11-2015, 01:20 PM
I suspect it's very likely with bosnians someone gets tracked and someone does something, but I don't think it will work out in a way you like much.

What do you expect from mixed race people like her?

dude
05-11-2015, 01:28 PM
right wing people are a joke.

If they had any brains they would realize the only way to change the system is to take it over by brute force. Seize the government and exterminate political opposition. Problem solved.
You talk too much about "change", is that like a progressive in disguise?

LightHouse89
05-11-2015, 01:33 PM
You talk too much about "change", is that like a progressive in disguise?

No.

But a Fascist take over is needed to reverse Liberal insanity.

dude
05-11-2015, 01:35 PM
No.

But a Fascist take over is needed to reverse Liberal insanity.
You go far too long lengths to get a a Rican booty, you should just ask her out instead of having to create a slavery system.

LightHouse89
05-11-2015, 01:39 PM
You go far too long lengths to get a a Rican booty, you should just ask her out instead of having to create a slavery system.

I like slavery and bondage though. :cool:

dude
05-11-2015, 01:40 PM
I like slavery and bondage though. :cool:
You should put an ad in those freak dating places.

NatiaCutie
05-11-2015, 07:11 PM
Not shocked your pro Subhuman views and political stances. Am I shocked other subhumans have adopted it? No.

The only thing I am waiting for is the military coup against Democratic institutions and entire over throw of Liberalism once and for all. The shadow of subhumanity in the western world will be defeated.

Don't be ridiculous please. At this rate, the only thing that is about to explode is your liver :)

Theodericus
05-11-2015, 07:15 PM
I support abortion only on several cases -

Firstly, if child is a product of rape or similar sexual violence.

Secondly, if child is discovered with serious life-disabling mental disadvantage. Such situation, is heavy burden, to both parents, and kid himself, and of course society.

Thirdly, in cases where drunk teenagers with seriously lack of sexual education, spawn a baby during the crazy party, filled with alcohol and drugs. Such kids are potential social problems, for whom no one will care. Spawning an generation of kids produced by not very smart or grown parents can be a huge problem for a whole country.

StormBringer
05-11-2015, 07:25 PM
I really hope that when Bosnia joins the EU they institute online controls to track murder apologists like yourself :mad:

We don't need EU for that.
http://www.bosniatoday.ba/man-in-bosnia-arrested-for-facebook-comments-about-terrorist-attack/


but also affirmed the right of EU Member States to determine national policy on SRHR issues.

Could have bolded this as well xD

Minesweeper
05-11-2015, 07:29 PM
Europe needs youth but I guess ideology is more important.

Aviator
05-11-2015, 07:33 PM
Europe needs youth but I guess ideology is more important.

But also consider the type of people willing to have abortions. The kind of person who gets rid of their child in such a way is certainly someone I don't want raising children, or passing on their genes to the next generation for that matter.

So I'm anti-abortion by principle, pro-abortion in practice.

Leo Iscariot
05-13-2015, 11:17 PM
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Bobby Martnen
12-10-2017, 04:56 AM
You just suggested that doctors, who are simply doing their job and making life better for women who don't wish to be burdened with an undesired child, should be murdered even if they haven't done anything wrong.

Just nutty criminal thoughts. Let me guess, are you a Muslim?

Don't want a kid?

There's a simple solution!

Don't be a slut, keep your legs shut!