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Kazimiera
05-13-2015, 05:52 AM
Zimbabwe: Russia to Offer Zim Protection

Source: http://allafrica.com/stories/201505110799.html

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Moscow — RUSSIA stands ready to thwart any Western aggression against Zimbabwe, President Vladimir Putin vowed in Moscow yesterday during a meeting with President Mugabe.In 2008, Russia and China vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution sponsored by Britain and the United States seeking to impose punitive sanctions on Zimbabwe.

President Mugabe, the incumbent chair of Sadc and the African Union, later told African diplomats posted to Moscow that he had no doubt the UN resolution, if it had passed, would have laid the ground for Britain and the US to effect "regime change" in Zimbabwe.

In an hour-long meeting, the two leaders reaffirmed their commitment to deepening bilateral ties, with President Mugabe pressing for increased Russian investment in agriculture, mining, infrastructure development and the manufacturing industries.

President Putin invited the Zimbabwean leader to appoint a special envoy to steer trade agreements between the two countries.

He said he had instructed his Trade Minister Denis Manturov to receive the envoy and fully explore areas of potential co-operation.

President Mugabe, on his first visit to Russia since 1987, on Saturday witnessed Russia's commemorations of the 70th anniversary of the conquest of Nazi Germany which were marked with a huge military parade in central Moscow.

The President, who arrived in Russia last Friday, yesterday met Putin before addressing African diplomats at a local hotel. He wound up his programme for the day by meeting Zimbabwean students studying in Russia.

But key for the President was the meeting with Putin, who last September launched his Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to Zimbabwe where he oversaw the signing of a US$4 billion joint venture platinum mining deal. President Mugabe will meet the Russian companies financing the huge development in Darwendale today.

Lavrov, who hailed President Mugabe as a "legend" and "historic figure" in Harare, was at yesterday's meeting at the Kremlin.

A source who attended the talks said: "President Putin recognised President Mugabe as the chairman of the African Union and said the invitation was on the basis of that status and that Russia wanted to build on historical relations of the Soviet Union and Africa. Specifically, Russia wanted to deepen bilateral relations with Zimbabwe, after all Zimbabwe has been part of a network of Russia's allies."

President Mugabe, said the official, "thanked President Putin for the invitation and thanked Russia for celebrations marking the defeat of fascism while noting that the victory against fascism was a victory for all of us."

President Mugabe is quoted as saying: "It's our victory together as Africans also fought fascism, albeit under imperial countries. Those allies against fascism were themselves fascist occupiers on the African continent and therefore had to be fought. The Soviet Union was an ally in that fight."

He noted that the disintegration of the Soviet Union had been met with glee in Washington, but Russia had remained "standing and opposed to America."

Russia's anti-imperialist stance, he observed, had invited sanctions from the United States, drawing parallels with Zimbabwe which is also under Western sanctions.

"You've sanctions, and we've sanctions too. That's why we should remain united, and why we celebrate with you. We need your support," the President is quoted as telling the Russian leader.

He thanked Russia and China for defending Zimbabwe in the Security Council, adding that "we'll need the same stance much more in respect of events in Africa."

He regretted the decision taken by the governments of South Africa, Gabon and Nigeria who used their votes in the Security Council to back a UN resolution for a no-fly zone over Libya which led to the invasion of Libya by Western forces and the eventual murder, in cold blood, of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi.

"We'll need your support, especially your veto and that of China more as we move into the future and as we seek to reform the UN," President Mugabe is said to have told Putin.

The Russian leader, who used Victory Day celebrations last Saturday to demonstrate Russia's daunting military might, was unwavering in his support for Zimbabwe's self-determination.

"In future, as in the past, we do have it in our power to support Africa and to support Zimbabwe, in particular, in the Security Council," the Russian leader said. "Our Western friends are so used to giving orders like they're still colonisers. We'll handle that challenge coolly. Russia does not want conflict."

Brianna
05-13-2015, 06:09 AM
It seems like the world is dividing into 2015 versions of NATO and the Warsaw Pact. It's beyond tragic.

BeerBaron
05-13-2015, 06:19 AM
It seems like the world is dividing into 2015 versions of NATO and the Warsaw Pact. It's beyond tragic.

Shhhhhh :eusa_shifty: in this forum Putin is always hailed as a god.

Zmey Gorynych
05-13-2015, 06:21 AM
Zimbabwe bonding with the other Nigeria (Nigeria with Snow).

Sarmatian
05-13-2015, 06:52 AM
It seems like the world is dividing into 2015 versions of NATO and the Warsaw Pact. It's beyond tragic.

It's over 20 years since Warsaw Pact is gone but NATO is still there. What for? Are there real threats to mightiest and most developed countries in the world?

In reality NATO is new type of colonial empire where US is metropolis, its most developed members are imperial provinces and the rest of the world are seen as imperial colonies. Maybe it will be a surprise for someone but for some reason some of the countries in the world do not want to be a part of that setup. And it's not so much because they have no other place in it but to be a colony. They just don't like the setup altogether and making steps to build their own world. Can you blame them?

Brianna
05-13-2015, 07:03 AM
Shhhhhh :eusa_shifty: in this forum Putin is always hailed as a god.

I don't blame just Putin. The West is as bellicose, if not more so.

Brianna
05-13-2015, 07:06 AM
It's over 20 years since Warsaw Pact is gone but NATO is still there. What for? Are there real threats to mightiest and most developed countries in the world?

In reality NATO is new type of colonial empire where US is metropolis, its most developed members are imperial provinces and the rest of the world are seen as imperial colonies. Maybe it will be a surprise for someone but for some reason some of the countries in the world do not want to be a part of that setup. And it's not so much because they have no other place in it but to be a colony. They just don't like the setup altogether and making steps to build their own world. Can you blame them?

I can't blame them. NATO should have been slowly disbanded after the Cold War ended. Well, maybe it never really ended. It had a brief thaw.

Brianna
05-13-2015, 07:07 AM
It's over 20 years since Warsaw Pact is gone but NATO is still there. What for? Are there real threats to mightiest and most developed countries in the world?

In reality NATO is new type of colonial empire where US is metropolis, its most developed members are imperial provinces and the rest of the world are seen as imperial colonies. Maybe it will be a surprise for someone but for some reason some of the countries in the world do not want to be a part of that setup. And it's not so much because they have no other place in it but to be a colony. They just don't like the setup altogether and making steps to build their own world. Can you blame them?

The MAN made me double-post.

European Knight
05-13-2015, 07:16 AM
Blacks when there was war against Rhodesian had already their weapons from Russia like AK 47 RPG 7 and 9 launcher and land mine China was also involve to support blacks with weapons

Kazimiera
05-13-2015, 07:25 AM
I'm not 100% up to date on Zimbabwean politics but I think it is a calculated move on Russia's side. Mugabe isn't going to live forever.

If Putin gets his way it is going to go from BRICS to BRICSZ.

BeerBaron
05-14-2015, 12:21 AM
I don't blame just Putin. The West is as bellicose, if not more so.

Point being, it's ironic Putin isheavily supported on this forum while supporting a nig nog leader genociding white Afrikaners, that, is bad. End point

Brianna
05-14-2015, 04:00 AM
Point being, it's ironic Putin isheavily supported on this forum while supporting a nig nog leader genociding white Afrikaners, that, is bad. End point

I was referring to the coup in Ukraine. You were referring to BRICS? In both cases, it's all about the money.

Sarmatian
05-14-2015, 04:55 AM
Point being, it's ironic Putin isheavily supported on this forum while supporting a nig nog leader genociding white Afrikaners, that, is bad. End point

Don't you know already? According to most racialists Russians are not white but some sort of Mongol mix. Well, at least according to all racial ladders I've seen they are somewhere at the bottom, just above blacks. It's being said often that Russia is 'Nigeria with snow'.

With that in mind do you still expect Russians to care much about 'tr00 whities' suffering?

StonyArabia
05-14-2015, 05:08 AM
Point being, it's ironic Putin isheavily supported on this forum while supporting a nig nog leader genociding white Afrikaners, that, is bad. End point

They are not Afrikaners, but Rhodesians who are of British stock, the Whites in Zimbabwe, they speak English.

Ctwentysevenj
05-14-2015, 09:17 AM
The ooga boogas getting protection from Putin.

Kazimiera
05-14-2015, 12:23 PM
Point being, it's ironic Putin isheavily supported on this forum while supporting a nig nog leader genociding white Afrikaners, that, is bad. End point

Zimbabwe (ex-Rhodesia named after Cecil John Rhodes) was a British colony. They're Brits. No Afrikaners in Zim unless they voluntarily moved there, which I highly doubt because the Afrikaners did their best to get away from the English. The few that were in Zim were discriminated against by the British and got out of there.

Most foreigners don't realise that the Brits and the Afrikaners are distinctly different people with different cultures and languages. So much emphasis is placed on the race issue that people don't realise the English and Afrikaners don't like each other much. There are thousands of articles about the race issue, yet very few about the English-Afrikaans divide (which is very real).

See here: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?74713-Anglo-Africans-NOT-all-white-South-Africans-are-Afrikaners

A thread for the misinformed and uninformed.