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Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
05-14-2015, 02:36 PM
I would like to know more about the haplogroup. IDK much of anything about it, please teach me, I am very curious because my cousin has the I1 Y-DNA and therefore my direct ancestor had it. I'd really like to know more about I1 now :)

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
05-14-2015, 02:46 PM
I read online that Cromagnoids were mostly I1

Skjaldemjøden
05-14-2015, 02:46 PM
I would like to know more about the haplogroup. IDK much of anything about it, please teach me, I am very curious because my cousin has the I1 Y-DNA and therefore my direct ancestor had it. I'd really like to know more about I1 now :)

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I1_Y-DNA.shtml

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
05-14-2015, 02:46 PM
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I1_Y-DNA.shtml

Thank you, and I read that it's Cromagnoid.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
05-14-2015, 02:48 PM
So it's pre Indo-European?

Prism
05-14-2015, 02:55 PM
Probably.

http://cdn.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_I1.gif

Hevo
05-14-2015, 03:02 PM
First I1 was found in Neolithic Western Hungary wich was part of the Linear Pottery (LBK) culture.

Insuperable
05-14-2015, 03:03 PM
LESSON NUMBER ONE

Y-dna haplogroups are A, B, C, DE, D, E, F,...,I, J, IJ,...,N,NO,O,...,X, Y, Z.

We are done for today.

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
05-14-2015, 03:04 PM
First I1 was found in Neolithic Western Hungary wich was part of the Linear Pottery (LBK) culture.

Interesting. That doesn't mean it's Neolithic though does it?

Unome
05-14-2015, 03:28 PM
Nordi1c Vi1kings

Äijä
05-14-2015, 03:28 PM
Nordi1c Vi1kings

What about the Finns?

Unome
05-14-2015, 03:31 PM
What about the Finns?
Finns are both n1ce and I1.

Äijä
05-14-2015, 03:35 PM
Finns are both n1ce and I1.

http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Turisas_Ten_More_Miles.jpg

Jackson
05-14-2015, 03:36 PM
Interesting. That doesn't mean it's Neolithic though does it?

It was probably a WHG lineage absorbed by early Neolithic farmers, but sometime more recently it underwent a rapid growth spurt (ie population expansion with lots of I1 individuals), i think sometime around 2500BC onwards iirc. Don't know if opinion has changed or not recently, been a while since i looked into it.

Äijä
05-14-2015, 03:38 PM
It was probably a WHG lineage absorbed by early Neolithic farmers, but sometime more recently it underwent a rapid growth spurt (ie population expansion with lots of I1 individuals), i think sometime around 2500BC onwards iirc. Don't know if opinion has changed or not recently, been a while since i looked into it.

Scania-Denmark-Saxony seems to be the source of the expansion that reflects the present.

Äijä
05-14-2015, 03:48 PM
Btw, the early iron age expansions of northern I1 and N1c have about the same timeline, it should be looked at more closely.

Hevo
05-14-2015, 04:12 PM
Interesting. That doesn't mean it's Neolithic though does it?

I think it has it's origins in Mesolithic Europe but it's not certain where I1 was originated.

TrueNordicism
06-09-2015, 06:31 AM
Nordi1c Vi1kings

Vikings were mainly bearded swarthy subnordids.