My 23andme results E1b1b1a2* & H11a

[Ejder]

http://i62.tinypic.com/30hq3oj.jpg

[Ejder]

Both of my parents are Turkish.

Maternal Line: H11a

Paternal Line: E1b1b1a2*

[Ejder]

Gedmatch seems offline. Which tests can I do?

[Highlands]

Congratulations. E1b1b1a2* is E-V13. You can try Interpretome to analyse results. http://interpretome.com/

[Ejder]

Congratulations. E1b1b1a2* is E-V13. You can try Interpretome to analyse results. http://interpretome.com/

Which option(s) do I have to choose?

[Böri]

Which province of Turkey are you from?

[Ejder]

Which province of Turkey are you from?
Ankara and Yozgat.

[Böri]

Delete.

[Ejder]

Your results appear very Kurdish or Armenian like just comparing to Gültekin or Bulut who score around 10% East Asian and 25-30% Northern.
I don't have Kurdish or Armenian relatives though.

[Ejder]

From Interpretome. I don't know if I chose the right settings though:

http://i61.tinypic.com/b4cop4.jpg

[Ejder]

http://i61.tinypic.com/b54c2p.jpg

[Ejder]

It seems I'm close to Turks, Iranians and South-Asia.

[Ejder]

Huh? This time I got different results:

http://i57.tinypic.com/1rdgeg.jpg

[Ejder]

In 23andme Global Similarity Map

http://i60.tinypic.com/fncqdw.jpg

[Ejder]

How do I zoom in the map?

[Highlands]

Gedmatch is up now, you can try.

[Ejder]

Gedmatch is up now, you can try.

Thanks. I used this test: MDLP K23b 4-Ancestors Oracle

http://i62.tinypic.com/mhynev.jpg

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.02
2 South_Central_Asian 15.55
3 Near_East 11.38
4 European_Early_Farmers 11.32
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 5.38
6 Tungus-Altaic 3.27
7 South_Indian 2.56
8 East_Siberian 2.28
9 Ancestral_Altaic 2.19
10 South_East_Asian 2.02
11 North_African 1.88
12 Arctic 1.38


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Adana @ 4.962261
2 Turk_Kayseri @ 5.897111
3 Turk @ 5.907393
4 Turk_Aydin @ 8.114106
5 Turk_Istanbul @ 8.528550
6 Turk_Balikesir @ 9.247464
7 Georgian_Jew @ 9.379662
8 Azeri @ 11.151212
9 Kurd_North @ 11.204896
10 Assyrian_Iraqi @ 11.254659
11 Iraqi_Chaldean @ 11.548547
12 Uzbek_Tashkent @ 11.811022
13 Uzbekistani_Jew @ 12.209904
14 Syrian_Jew @ 12.652347
15 Kurd_South @ 12.991270
16 Lebanese_Muslim @ 13.498983
17 Kurd_Jew @ 13.630783
18 Azov_Greek @ 13.654325
19 Jew_Tat @ 13.737037
20 Iraki @ 13.872524

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_Adana +50% Turk_Aydin @ 3.965281


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian_Iraqi +25% Greek_Smyrna +25% Tajik_Tajikistan @ 2.431889


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian_Yerevan + Italian_Abruzzo + Kurd_Jew + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.253551
2 Greek_Smyrna + Jew_Tat + Turk_Kayseri + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.270344
3 Greek_Islands + Iraqi_Jew + Tajik_Afghan + Turk @ 2.288136
4 Greek_Smyrna + Jew_Tat + Turk + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.305056
5 Greek_Islands + Iraqi_Jew + Tajik_Afghan + Turk_Aydin @ 2.317802
6 Baku_WGA + Cypriot + Greek_Smyrna + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.334239
7 Greek_Islands + Kurd_Jew + Turk_Kayseri + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.350836
8 Greek_Smyrna + Lebanese_Druze + Tajik_Afghan + Turk @ 2.352384
9 Greek_Islands + Kurd_Jew + Turk + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.354592
10 Greek_Smyrna + Kurd_Jew + Turk_Istanbul + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.360896
11 Greek_Smyrna + Jew_Tat + Turk_Adana + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.368676
12 Greek_Smyrna + Iranian_Jew + Turk_Istanbul + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.374295
13 Greek_Smyrna + Iranian_Jew + Turk + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.380141
14 Greek_Smyrna + Kurd_Jew + Turk + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.380716
15 Greek_Smyrna + Kurd_Jew + Turk_Kayseri + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.380865
16 Greek_Islands + Iraqi_Jew + Tajik_Afghan + Turk_Istanbul @ 2.389449
17 Greek_Islands + Kurd_Jew + Turk_Istanbul + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.403358
18 Assyrian_Iraqi + Georgian_Jew + Greek_Smyrna + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.413521
19 Greek_Islands + Turk_Kayseri + Turkmen_Uzbekistan + Uzbekistani_Jew @ 2.420511
20 Georgian_Jew + Greek_Smyrna + Turk_Kayseri + Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.422186

[Highlands]

Your results seem quite typical you also get "Turkmen" congrats :)

[Ejder]

Dodecad V3 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 34.94
2 Mediterranean 24.82
3 Southwest_Asian 11.30
4 West_European 9.70
5 Southeast_Asian 5.89
6 South_Asian 4.32
7 East_European 4.24
8 Northeast_Asian 4.17


Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 9.064924
2 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 10.557806
3 Kurd @ 12.131569
4 Turks @ 12.425549
5 Kurd @ 12.731822
6 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 14.108569
7 Georgia_Jews @ 14.232581
8 Iranian_Jews @ 15.290814
9 Druze @ 16.911787
10 Iraq_Jews @ 17.006056
11 Lebanese @ 17.781292
12 Stalskoe @ 17.992039
13 Iranians @ 18.496111
14 Ashkenazi @ 18.763397
15 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 18.891108
16 Iranian @ 19.058117
17 Palestinian @ 19.486925
18 Morocco_Jews @ 19.815880
19 Syrians @ 20.305182
20 Samaritians @ 20.730249

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +50% Stalskoe @ 6.707424


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Jews +25% S_Italian_Sicilian +25% Uzbeks @ 1.765768


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Assyrian + C_Italian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.269579
2 Assyrian + Azerbaijan_Jews + C_Italian + Uzbeks @ 1.369292
3 Assyrian + Azerbaijan_Jews + O_Italian + Uzbeks @ 1.396830
4 Assyrian + C_Italian + Uzbeks + Kurd @ 1.487673
5 Assyrian + Iranian_Jews + O_Italian + Uzbeks @ 1.629972
6 Armenian + Iranian_Jews + O_Italian + Uzbeks @ 1.663379
7 Armenian + C_Italian + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.706429
8 Armenian + Iraq_Jews + O_Italian + Uzbeks @ 1.731438
9 Azerbaijan_Jews + Azerbaijan_Jews + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 1.765768
10 Armenians_16 + C_Italian + Syrians + Uzbeks @ 1.779096
11 Armenian + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.783471
12 Armenians_16 + O_Italian + Syrians + Uzbeks @ 1.813922
13 Assyrian + C_Italian + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.849538
14 Assyrian + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.853898
15 Assyrian + Iraq_Jews + O_Italian + Uzbeks @ 1.883407
16 Armenian + Iraq_Jews + Uzbeks + Tuscan @ 1.895548
17 Armenian + C_Italian + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.928881
18 Assyrian + C_Italian + Kurd + Uzbeks @ 1.942825
19 Azerbaijan_Jews + Azerbaijan_Jews + C_Italian + Uzbeks @ 1.953632
20 Armenian + C_Italian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.970024

[Ejder]

Your results seem quite typical you also get "Turkmen" congrats :)

Thanks. :)

[Ejder]

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 28.45
2 East_Med 26.64
3 West_Med 13.69
4 South_Asian 5.68
5 Baltic 5.57
6 North_Atlantic 5.44
7 Red_Sea 4.42
8 Siberian 4.35
9 East_Asian 4.16
10 Amerindian 1.42


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 5.212664
2 Azeri @ 10.023810
3 Armenian @ 15.659476
4 Kurdish @ 15.760011
5 Georgian_Jewish @ 15.811346
6 Assyrian @ 16.342001
7 Iranian @ 16.422731
8 Turkmen @ 16.566177
9 Lebanese_Muslim @ 17.655796
10 Syrian @ 18.345984
11 Kumyk @ 18.885759
12 Iranian_Jewish @ 19.083614
13 Kurdish_Jewish @ 19.284100
14 Cyprian @ 19.919498
15 Central_Greek @ 21.302526
16 South_Italian @ 21.859934
17 East_Sicilian @ 21.964365
18 Balkar @ 22.532526
19 Adygei @ 23.474152
20 Jordanian @ 23.497812

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turkish +50% Turkish @ 5.212664


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +25% South_Italian +25% Uzbeki @ 2.730661


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Afghan_Tadjik + Balkar + Cyprian + Cyprian @ 2.619272
2 Armenian + Armenian + South_Italian + Uzbeki @ 2.730661
3 Afghan_Tadjik + Algerian_Jewish + Balkar + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.782060
4 Armenian + Armenian + East_Sicilian + Uzbeki @ 2.831214
5 Armenian + Armenian + Central_Greek + Uzbeki @ 2.856481
6 Aghan_Hazara + Cyprian + Cyprian + Georgian @ 2.872223
7 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + South_Italian + Uzbeki @ 2.981275
8 Afghan_Tadjik + Cyprian + Cyprian + Kumyk @ 3.002697
9 Aghan_Hazara + Armenian + Central_Greek + Georgian_Jewish @ 3.056540
10 Aghan_Hazara + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 3.101972
11 Afghan_Tadjik + Cyprian + Cyprian + Kabardin @ 3.114366
12 Afghan_Tadjik + Algerian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Ossetian @ 3.128655
13 Afghan_Tadjik + Algerian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + North_Ossetian @ 3.146245
14 Adygei + Aghan_Hazara + Cyprian + Cyprian @ 3.155289
15 Aghan_Hazara + Armenian + East_Sicilian + Georgian_Jewish @ 3.170663
16 Afghan_Tadjik + Cyprian + Turkish + Turkish @ 3.172228
17 Afghan_Tadjik + Balkar + Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian @ 3.189244
18 Aghan_Hazara + Armenian + Armenian + East_Sicilian @ 3.193127
19 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Hazara + South_Italian @ 3.205809
20 Afghan_Tadjik + Balkar + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 3.207120

[Ejder]

What is Cyprian?

[Böri]

Now that you shared your clusterings with different population groups it becomes more clear, as the first post didnt mean much. You seem to have significant levels of DNA from Oghuz tribes who were brought here in Rum or Roman lands by the Seljuk dynasty a thousand years ago as colonists. This backs your Turkish ethnic identity with biological data.

[Ejder]

Now that you shared your clusterings with different population groups it becomes more clear, as the first post didnt mean much. You seem to have significant levels of DNA from Oghuz tribes who were brought here in Rum or Roman lands by the Seljuk dynasty a thousand years ago as colonists. This backs your Turkish ethnic identity with biological data.

Thanks. :) I have two questions though. How much % Oghuz am I? Amd what is Cyprian?

[Highlands]

Cyprian is Cypriot Greek I think.

[Ice]

Congratz

Your results are typical for central anatolian Turks. Could you run harappa,eurogenes k7 and dodecad k12b culculators?

Btw, how many relatives do you have on 'dna relatives"?

[Ejder]

Congratz

Your results are typical for central anatolian Turks. Could you run harappa,eurogenes k7 and dodecad k12b culculators?

Btw, how many relatives do you have on 'dna relatives"?

The sites say it is busy with calculating my dna relatives. About Eurogenes test... I already posted Eurogenes in this thread. It can be found at the top of this page.

[Ice]

Eurogenes K7 =/= Eurogenes K13

[Ice]

settings for interpretome.com

1- Go to Interpretome.com using either Firefox or Google Chrome. Their site does not support Internet Explorer
2- Click on Ancestry, then click on PCA
3- Click on upload/add genome. They support only 23andme. Make sure you upload an unzipped version of your genome. This should take a couple of seconds.
4- Choose a resolution of 100,000 SNPs
5- For the 1st plot choose Reference Populations, PC1/ PC2. It takes a couple of seconds to plot
6- To zoom in, left click with your mouse, and drag it to cover the area you want to zoom into
7- For the 2nd plot, choose HGDP World, PC3/PC4, and repeat step 6
8- For the 3rd plot, choose Mid East/Jewish, PC1/PC2
9- For the 4th plot, choose HGDP Asian, PC1/PC2, Detailed Regional.
10- Take screen shots, and upload to photo sharing website such as imgur.com

[Böri]

Thanks. :) I have two questions though. How much % Oghuz am I? Amd what is Cyprian?

Difficult to say precise percentage. It must be between 25-50%. This is average for Turks. Turkmen, Balkar, Uzbek, Tajik (Turks linguistically assimilated by Iranic), all indicators.

[Ejder]

Eurogenes K7 =/= Eurogenes K13

There is Eurogenes_ANE K7, do you mean this?

[Ice]

Yes that one, don't forget harappa and dodecad k12b..

[Ejder]

I tried this one:

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.37
2 West_Asian 26.49
3 West_Med 10.92
4 North_Sea 7.75
5 South_Asian 6.07
6 Red_Sea 4.31
7 Siberian 4.16
8 Southeast_Asian 3.91
9 Eastern_Euro 3.68
10 Baltic 3.41
11 Amerindian 1.31


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 9.826472
2 Azeri @ 12.038730
3 Kurdish @ 15.608452
4 Armenian @ 15.690121
5 Iranian @ 16.177715
6 Turkmen @ 16.430098
7 Georgian_Jewish @ 16.537821
8 Assyrian @ 16.548992
9 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.237064
10 Syrian @ 18.676001
11 Ashkenazi @ 19.561089
12 Cyprian @ 19.902361
13 Iranian_Jewish @ 19.956022
14 Central_Greek @ 20.056736
15 Kurdish_Jewish @ 20.452843
16 East_Sicilian @ 20.907328
17 South_Italian @ 21.082937
18 Kumyk @ 22.046955
19 Sephardic_Jewish @ 22.842106
20 Italian_Abruzzo @ 23.001688

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Afghan_Tadjik +50% Cyprian @ 8.131365


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +25% Libyan_Jewish +25% Uzbeki @ 5.729963


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Afghan_Tadjik + Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.393912
2 Afghan_Tadjik + Armenian + Assyrian + Greek_Thessaly @ 5.456990
3 Afghan_Hazara + Armenian + Armenian + Libyan_Jewish @ 5.651829
4 Armenian + Armenian + Libyan_Jewish + Uzbeki @ 5.729963
5 Afghan_Uzbeki + Armenian + Assyrian + Greek_Thessaly @ 5.741053
6 Afghan_Uzbeki + Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.768111
7 Afghan_Hazara + Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.793228
8 Afghan_Hazara + Armenian + Armenian + Greek_Thessaly @ 5.812074
9 Afghan_Hazara + Armenian + Armenian + Ashkenazi @ 5.825910
10 Afghan_Hazara + Armenian + Assyrian + Greek_Thessaly @ 5.837962
11 Afghan_Tadjik + Armenian + Armenian + Greek_Thessaly @ 5.841271
12 Afghan_Tadjik + Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly @ 5.872357
13 Afghan_Tadjik + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly @ 5.885573
14 Afghan_Tadjik + Balkar + Lebanese_Christian + Libyan_Jewish @ 5.895501
15 Afghan_Tadjik + Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Iranian_Jewish @ 5.896044
16 Afghan_Tadjik + Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Christian @ 5.900224
17 Afghan_Tadjik + Assyrian + Assyrian + Greek_Thessaly @ 5.906741
18 Afghan_Uzbeki + Armenian + Armenian + Greek_Thessaly @ 5.921346
19 Afghan_Hazara + Armenian + Armenian + Central_Greek @ 5.943872
20 Armenian + Armenian + Ashkenazi + Uzbeki @ 5.953950

[Ejder]

I have much higher Central-Asian and East-Asian in these Gedmatch tests than 23andme. I don't know which one to believe.

HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle


23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.83
2 Baloch 17.12
3 Mediterranean 12.77
4 SW-Asian 10.82
5 NE-Euro 7.70
6 NE-Asian 4.63
7 Siberian 3.73
8 S-Indian 1.59
9 American 1.00


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 turkish @ 6.886119
2 turk-kayseri @ 7.546082
3 turk-istanbul @ 7.983696
4 turk @ 9.051309
5 turk-aydin @ 9.304012
6 azeri @ 10.535385
7 armenian @ 11.130578
8 kurd @ 12.639973
9 iranian @ 13.653419
10 uzbekistan-jew @ 13.956207
11 iraqi-arab @ 14.651834
12 kurd @ 14.743283
13 north-ossetian @ 15.123115
14 iranian @ 15.181506
15 kurd @ 15.962990
16 lebanese-muslim @ 16.122839
17 lebanese @ 16.465481
18 palestinian @ 16.926622
19 turkmen @ 17.038120
20 syrian @ 17.663160

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% cypriot +50% turkmen @ 2.468920


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% cypriot +25% turkmen +25% turkmen @ 2.468920


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 sephardic-jew + turk-kayseri + turkish + turkmen @ 2.349338
2 sephardic-jew + turk + turkish + turkmen @ 2.353868
3 sephardic-jew + turk-istanbul + turkish + turkmen @ 2.398651
4 cypriot + cypriot + turkmen + turkmen @ 2.468920
5 armenian + kurd + morocco-jew + uzbek @ 2.469175
6 morocco-jew + turk + turkish + turkmen @ 2.561781
7 armenian + kurd + sephardic-jew + uzbek @ 2.567379
8 armenian + kurd + morocco-jew + uzbek @ 2.631249
9 armenian + kurd + sephardic-jew + uzbek @ 2.632286
10 azeri + morocco-jew + turk-kayseri + turkmen @ 2.666478
11 sephardic-jew + turk-kayseri + turk-kayseri + turkmen @ 2.686599
12 morocco-jew + turk + turk + turkmen @ 2.688346
13 azeri + morocco-jew + turk + turkmen @ 2.706717
14 morocco-jew + turk-istanbul + turkish + turkmen @ 2.709162
15 azeri + sephardic-jew + turk-kayseri + turkmen @ 2.721948
16 armenian + kurd + morocco-jew + uzbek @ 2.723428
17 sephardic-jew + turk + turk-kayseri + turkmen @ 2.737063
18 armenian + kurd + sephardic-jew + uzbek @ 2.742975
19 sephardic-jew + turkish + turkish + turkmen @ 2.743481
20 morocco-jew + turk + turk-kayseri + turkmen @ 2.749563

[Ice]

Gedmatch ftw<3

[Ice]

I have much higher Central-Asian and East-Asian in these Gedmatch tests than 23andme. I don't know which one to believe.

HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle


23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.83
2 Baloch 17.12
3 Mediterranean 12.77
4 SW-Asian 10.82
5 NE-Euro 7.70
6 NE-Asian 4.63
7 Siberian 3.73
8 S-Indian 1.59
9 American 1.00


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 turkish @ 6.886119
2 turk-kayseri @ 7.546082
3 turk-istanbul @ 7.983696
4 turk @ 9.051309
5 turk-aydin @ 9.304012
6 azeri @ 10.535385
7 armenian @ 11.130578
8 kurd @ 12.639973
9 iranian @ 13.653419
10 uzbekistan-jew @ 13.956207
11 iraqi-arab @ 14.651834
12 kurd @ 14.743283
13 north-ossetian @ 15.123115
14 iranian @ 15.181506
15 kurd @ 15.962990
16 lebanese-muslim @ 16.122839
17 lebanese @ 16.465481
18 palestinian @ 16.926622
19 turkmen @ 17.038120
20 syrian @ 17.663160

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% cypriot +50% turkmen @ 2.468920


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% cypriot +25% turkmen +25% turkmen @ 2.468920


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 sephardic-jew + turk-kayseri + turkish + turkmen @ 2.349338
2 sephardic-jew + turk + turkish + turkmen @ 2.353868
3 sephardic-jew + turk-istanbul + turkish + turkmen @ 2.398651
4 cypriot + cypriot + turkmen + turkmen @ 2.468920
5 armenian + kurd + morocco-jew + uzbek @ 2.469175
6 morocco-jew + turk + turkish + turkmen @ 2.561781
7 armenian + kurd + sephardic-jew + uzbek @ 2.567379
8 armenian + kurd + morocco-jew + uzbek @ 2.631249
9 armenian + kurd + sephardic-jew + uzbek @ 2.632286
10 azeri + morocco-jew + turk-kayseri + turkmen @ 2.666478
11 sephardic-jew + turk-kayseri + turk-kayseri + turkmen @ 2.686599
12 morocco-jew + turk + turk + turkmen @ 2.688346
13 azeri + morocco-jew + turk + turkmen @ 2.706717
14 morocco-jew + turk-istanbul + turkish + turkmen @ 2.709162
15 azeri + sephardic-jew + turk-kayseri + turkmen @ 2.721948
16 armenian + kurd + morocco-jew + uzbek @ 2.723428
17 sephardic-jew + turk + turk-kayseri + turkmen @ 2.737063
18 armenian + kurd + sephardic-jew + uzbek @ 2.742975
19 sephardic-jew + turkish + turkish + turkmen @ 2.743481
20 morocco-jew + turk + turk-kayseri + turkmen @ 2.749563

Cool results

[Ejder]

http://i61.tinypic.com/16gzm2h.jpg

What does those abbreviations mean like ANE ESA?

[Ejder]

What is Gedrosia?

Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle


The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.06
2 Gedrosia 16.54
3 Atlantic_Med 14.96
4 Southwest_Asian 12.13
5 North_European 7.11
6 East_Asian 5.81
7 Siberian 4.32
8 South_Asian 1.46


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 10.927345
2 Turkish @ 10.928949
3 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 15.251930
4 Kurd @ 16.688540
5 Lebanese @ 16.809505
6 Iranian @ 16.951029
7 Kurds @ 16.966511
8 Iranians @ 18.749474
9 Sephardic_Jews @ 18.957355
10 Turkmens @ 19.266386
11 Syrians @ 19.304296
12 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 19.694761
13 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 19.838999
14 Cypriots @ 19.857100
15 Georgia_Jews @ 19.922190
16 Assyrian @ 19.994015
17 Iraq_Jews @ 20.433100
18 S_Italian_Sicilian @ 20.658314
19 Ashkenazi @ 20.807932
20 Iranian_Jews @ 20.832104

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots +50% Turkmens @ 4.165554


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +25% C_Italian +25% Hazara @ 2.204612


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Assyrian + Assyrian + C_Italian + Hazara @ 2.204612
2 Assyrian + Azerbaijan_Jews + C_Italian + Hazara @ 2.288684
3 Assyrian + Assyrian + Hazara + Tuscan @ 2.290197
4 Assyrian + Azerbaijan_Jews + Hazara + Tuscan @ 2.345013
5 Assyrian + Assyrian + Hazara + TSI30 @ 2.408632
6 Azerbaijan_Jews + Azerbaijan_Jews + C_Italian + Hazara @ 2.417652
7 Azerbaijan_Jews + Azerbaijan_Jews + Hazara + Tuscan @ 2.449000
8 Assyrian + Azerbaijan_Jews + Hazara + TSI30 @ 2.487710
9 Azerbaijan_Jews + Iranian_Jews + Tuscan + Uzbeks @ 2.567634
10 Azerbaijan_Jews + Azerbaijan_Jews + Hazara + TSI30 @ 2.579891
11 Armenian + Hazara + Iranian_Jews + Tuscan @ 2.582587
12 Armenian + Assyrian + C_Italian + Hazara @ 2.622880
13 Armenians_15 + Hazara + Iranian_Jews + Tuscan @ 2.630188
14 Assyrian + Iranian_Jews + Tuscan + Uzbeks @ 2.644086
15 Assyrian + Azerbaijan_Jews + C_Italian + Uzbeks @ 2.661349
16 Armenians_15 + Assyrian + C_Italian + Hazara @ 2.662860
17 Armenian + Hazara + Iranian_Jews + TSI30 @ 2.674805
18 Azerbaijan_Jews + Azerbaijan_Jews + C_Italian + Uzbeks @ 2.684108
19 Armenian + C_Italian + Hazara + Iranian_Jews @ 2.695422
20 Assyrian + Assyrian + C_Italian + Uzbeks @ 2.695610

[Danishmend]

Your results appear very Kurdish or Armenian like just comparing to Gültekin or Bulut who score around 10% East Asian and 25-30% Northern.

His results appear typical Turkish, you are comparing 23andme's component analysis to FTDNA's MyOrigins. :picard2:

Judging from his gedmatch results he has ~10% East Eurasian input just as Gültekin, Bulut and most other Turks have.

Don't comment about the things you are not familiar with.

[TheMagnificent]

Congratulations on your results, Ejder!

GedMatch is far more detailed than 23andMe in showing what the DNA of your ethic group is made of and gives you a more accurate impression on which populations you match. As the others already said, your results look very typical to those of Central Anatolian Turks, from what I know of it. :)

[Böri]

His results appear typical Turkish, you are comparing 23andme's component analysis to FTDNA's MyOrigins. :picard2:

Judging from his gedmatch results he has ~10% East Eurasian input just as Gültekin, Bulut and most other Turks have.

Don't comment about the things you are not familiar with.
Before you bothered yourself to write this post I wrote other posts correcting my first. OP layout like 87% Middle Eastern was just misleading

[TheMagnificent]

The 4-Ancestors Oracle by the way just tries to predict which populations might have formed your DNA if your ancestry would come from 2, 3 or 4 different populations. Using 1 population approximation it correctly predicts you as Turkish, as you can see.

[Ejder]

Congratulations on your results, Ejder!

GedMatch is far more detailed than 23andMe in showing what the DNA of your ethic group is made of and gives you a more accurate impression on which populations you match. As the others already said, your results look very typical to those of Central Anatolian Turks, from what I know of it. :)

Actually they always think I'm from another parts of Turkey. Central-Asians think I'm from Central-Asia. See my avatar.

[Ejder]

The 4-Ancestors Oracle by the way just tries to predict which populations might have formed your DNA if your ancestry would come from 2, 3 or 4 different populations. Using 1 population approximation it correctly predicts you as Turkish, as you can see.

Other than Turkish I'm closest to Azeri and Uzbek. I think this destroys the myth that Azeri are Turkified Persians. Azeri Turks and Anatolian Turks are very closely related.

[Ejder]

Dodecad K7b 4-Ancestors Oracle

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 39.02
2 Southern 29.34
3 Atlantic_Baltic 18.57
4 Siberian 5.74
5 East_Asian 4.55
6 South_Asian 2.58


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
7 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks @ 4.912749
2 Turkish @ 5.388970
3 Turkmens @ 16.251547
4 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 16.528885
5 Cypriots @ 16.536816
6 Kumyks @ 16.721729
7 Balkars @ 17.231926
8 Lebanese @ 17.724321
9 Iranian @ 17.739298
10 Kurds @ 18.040716
11 Kurd @ 18.061028
12 Adygei @ 18.403854
13 Armenian @ 18.432657
14 Syrians @ 18.446480
15 Iranians @ 18.590843
16 North_Ossetians @ 18.654451
17 Armenians @ 18.869617
18 Armenians_15 @ 19.053537
19 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 19.322205
20 Georgia_Jews @ 19.504974

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze +50% Nogais @ 2.843136


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Jews +25% Greek +25% Uzbeks @ 0.949342


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenians_15 + Greek + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.676719
2 Armenians + Greek + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.763803
3 Armenians + Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.790876
4 Armenian + Armenians_15 + Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 0.792119
5 Armenians_15 + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.795065
6 Armenians + Azerbaijan_Jews + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 0.796141
7 Armenians_15 + Azerbaijan_Jews + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 0.807245
8 Armenians_15 + Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.809315
9 Armenians_15 + C_Italian + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.819555
10 Armenian + Armenians_15 + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 0.844348
11 Armenians + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.870125
12 Armenians_15 + Georgia_Jews + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 0.892554
13 Armenians + Ashkenazi + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.904907
14 Armenian + Greek + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.909335
15 Armenian + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.920687
16 Armenians + Azerbaijan_Jews + Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 0.921484
17 Armenian + Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 0.925185
18 Armenians + Assyrian + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 0.935048
19 Azerbaijan_Jews + Azerbaijan_Jews + Greek + Uzbeks @ 0.949342
20 Armenian + Armenians_15 + Ashkenazi + Uzbeks @ 0.961602

[Danishmend]

Before you bothered yourself to write this post I wrote other posts correcting my first. OP layout like 87% Middle Eastern was just misleading

You shouldn't have commented on his results in the first place then.

FtdnaMyOrigins=/=23andmeAncestryComposition

[Ejder]

World9 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_Gedrosia 37.41
2 Southern 30.56
3 Atlantic_Baltic 18.80
4 Siberian 4.89
5 East_Asian 4.50
6 South_Asian 2.71
7 Amerindian 1.13


Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
9 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 4.942778
2 Turks @ 5.930906
3 Armenians @ 12.444983
4 Kumyks @ 15.433207
5 Cypriots @ 15.691503
6 Balkars @ 15.794632
7 Turkmens @ 16.599651
8 Adygei @ 16.962130
9 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 17.017488
10 North_Ossetians @ 17.226522
11 Lebanese @ 17.326942
12 Armenian @ 17.746128
13 Iranian @ 17.776052
14 Iranians @ 18.139553
15 Syrians @ 18.155304
16 Kurd @ 18.350508
17 Armenians @ 18.359777
18 Kurds @ 18.553711
19 Georgia_Jews @ 18.725149
20 Druze @ 19.369860

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots +50% Turkmens @ 2.818906


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +25% Sicilian +25% Uzbeks @ 1.215373


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 C_Italian + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks + Armenians @ 0.957836
2 Armenian + C_Italian + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.049894
3 Greek + Assyrian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.052598
4 Armenian + Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.097664
5 C_Italian + Azerbaijan_Jews + Azerbaijan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.108334
6 O_Italian + Azerbaijan_Jews + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.126920
7 Armenian + S_Italian_Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.131054
8 S_Italian_Sicilian + Armenians + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.143473
9 Greek + Azerbaijan_Jews + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.162087
10 Sicilian + Armenians + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.173010
11 Sicilian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks + Armenians @ 1.192818
12 S_Italian + Armenians + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.193834
13 O_Italian + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks + Armenians @ 1.200578
14 Armenian + Armenian + Sicilian + Uzbeks @ 1.215373
15 Greek + Georgia_Jews + Uzbeks + Armenians @ 1.221938
16 C_Italian + Iranian_Jews + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.224628
17 Armenian + S_Italian + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.248317
18 Armenian + Greek + Assyrian + Uzbeks @ 1.258975
19 Armenians + Ashkenazy_Jews + Iranian_Jews + Uzbeks @ 1.266391
20 Armenian + Sicilian + Uzbeks + Armenians @ 1.272336

[DarkSecret]

You seem to be Laz+Ashkenaz.

[Freeroostah]

Interesting results
Congrats for the E1b haplo :thumb001: