My family tree DNA autosomal results

[Kamal900]

My FTDNA Family Finder results are here, and the results are unexpected and awesome!

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Picture.png (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Kamal900/media/Picture.png.html)
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Picture2.png (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Kamal900/media/Picture2.png.html)
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There are few people who are genetically closest to me, and a lot of them are living in the Americas and the Levant:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Picture3.png (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Kamal900/media/Picture3.png.html)

I'm genetically 88 percent middle eastern(51% Anatolian, 30% eastern Middle Eastern and 7% North Afrocan from Morocco and Algeria), 8 percent European(southern European and 3 percent east-central African.

What do you guys think of my results?

[Longbowman]

Cool :thumb001:

Download your results and do GEDmatch at once!

[Kamal900]

Cool :thumb001:

Download your results and do GEDmatch at once!

Like, i should download my raw data and send it to GEDmatch?

[Longbowman]

Like, i should download my raw data and send it to GEDmatch?

Yep. Upload it to GEDmatch.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Interesting results, Congrats.

[Highlands]

What are your haplogroups? congrats btw

[Kamal900]

What are your haplogroups? congrats btw

I'll be getting my maternal haplogroup in June, but my autosomal results came today so i had the need to post it here.

[Kamal900]

Yep. Upload it to GEDmatch.

Dude, i tried to register but they're not sending me the confirmation mail. Can i send my raw data to you so that you can upload it to GEDmatch? You can send my results in pvt message or something.

[Alessio]

My FTDNA Family Finder results are here, and the results are unexpected and awesome!

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Picture.png (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Kamal900/media/Picture.png.html)
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Picture2.png (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Kamal900/media/Picture2.png.html)
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Picture1.png (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Kamal900/media/Picture1.png.html)

There are few people who are genetically closest to me, and a lot of them are living in the Americas and the Levant:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Picture3.png (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Kamal900/media/Picture3.png.html)

I'm genetically 88 percent middle eastern(51% Anatolian, 30% eastern Middle Eastern and 7% North Afrocan from Morocco and Algeria), 8 percent European(southern European and 3 percent east-central African.

What do you guys think of my results?

Is that woman named Maria part Levantine ?

[Kamal900]

Is that woman named Maria part Levantine ?

She is, and she's the most closest to me genetically, lol.

[Longbowman]

Dude, i tried to register but they're not sending me the confirmation mail. Can i send my raw data to you so that you can upload it to GEDmatch? You can send my results in pvt message or something.

If you like, I can try.

[Kamal900]

If you like, I can try.

Great. Send me your email address in pvt message.

[DarknessInside]

What's your y-dna and mtdna?

[Gaston]

Congrats! :thumb001:

Don't take the results literally though, you may very well have no recent Southern European or North African ancestry, it's just that these two groups have a lot in common with Near Easterners, particularly Levantines.
As Longbowman advised, you should use gedmatch. Maybe even try Dr McDonald, since you're not European (might as well never answer).

Weird though you don't score any Jewish diaspora (Ashkenazi). It's usually quite high in some Southern Europeans and in Northwest Africans.



What's your y-dna and mtdna?

They are purchased separately.

[Alessio]

She is, and she's the most closest to me genetically, lol.

From Palestina ? you don't have a lot of matches eh ? I have mostly matches from my mom' side; 85/90 % of my matches are northern Euro.

[Kamal900]

From Palestina ? you don't have a lot of matches eh ? I have mostly matches from my mom' side; 85/90 % of my matches are northern Euro.

She's originally from Lebanon(A palestinian from Lebanon), but yeah, she's the most closest to me genetically. Anyway, why do you think i'm 51 percent Anatolian and 8 percent southern european in your opinion?

[Kamal900]

Congrats! :thumb001:

Don't take the results literally though, you may very well have no recent Southern European or North African ancestry, it's just that these two groups have a lot in common with Near Easterners, particularly Levantines.
As Longbowman advised, you should use gedmatch. Maybe even try Dr McDonald, since you're not European (might as well never answer).

Weird though you don't score any Jewish diaspora (Ashkenazi). It's usually quite high in some Southern Europeans and in Northwest Africans.




They are purchased separately.

I'm more or less predominately Anatolian(51 percent) and eastern Middle Eastern. I guess my southern euro admixture mostly came from crusader Christians or something since my mother came from a village that used to be a crusader stronghold, but i don't know.

[Alessio]

She's originally from Lebanon(A palestinian from Lebanon), but yeah, she's the most closest to me genetically. Anyway, why do you think i'm 51 percent Anatolian and 8 percent southern european in your opinion?

Hmm I haven't spend too much reading on how FTDNA chooses their components but it's showing that you share pieces of your genome in common with the populations mentioned; their representation is somewhat more ancient than let's say 23andme would give you.

[Kamal900]

Hmm I haven't spend too much reading on how FTDNA chooses their components but it's showing that you share pieces of your genome with the populations mentioned; their representation is somewhat more ancient than let's say 23andme would give you.

Most likely. I sent longbowman my raw data to upload it to GEDmatch, and hopefully he can sent my results soon.

[Kamal900]

Here are my GEDmatch results:

Jtest:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Jtest.png
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 37.86
2 MIDDLE_EASTERN 20.16
3 WEST_ASIAN 16.48
4 WEST_MED 9.35
5 ASHKENAZI 5.79
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.05
7 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 3.03
8 EAST_AFRICAN 2.40


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 IQ @ 9.036242
2 Samaritan @ 10.631749
3 Mandean @ 12.283883
4 Assyrian @ 14.162012
5 Druze @ 16.881546
6 TR @ 20.019768
7 Armenian @ 20.325636
8 GR @ 20.854652
9 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 21.452969
10 Kurdish @ 22.171505
11 IR @ 23.337337
12 AJ @ 33.862679
13 Algerian @ 34.521378
14 Tuscan @ 34.832615
15 GE @ 39.569893
16 Moroccan @ 39.832100
17 North_Italian @ 40.269737
18 RO @ 40.605133
19 Bedouin @ 42.347263
20 Serbian @ 42.383530

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mandean +50% Samaritan @ 6.080221


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IQ +25% Samaritan +25% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.444737


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian + Druze + Mandean + Mandean @ 3.097530
2 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + Mandean @ 3.306703
3 IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan + TR @ 3.523220
4 IQ + Mandean + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.805326
5 Algerian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Druze @ 4.076247
6 Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.132244
7 GR + IQ + IQ + Samaritan @ 4.153470
8 GR + IQ + Mandean + Samaritan @ 4.191198
9 Druze + Mandean + Mandean + Moroccan @ 4.198832
10 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + IQ @ 4.250764
11 Armenian + IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.343150
12 Assyrian + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.424001
13 IQ + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.444737
14 Algerian + Druze + Kurdish + Samaritan @ 4.522501
15 Armenian + Bedouin + Druze + GR @ 4.560217
16 Algerian + Armenian + Druze + Mandean @ 4.646822
17 GR + Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.654131
18 Druze + IQ + IQ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.663242
19 Algerian + Druze + IQ + Mandean @ 4.679577
20 GR + IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.680312

Eurogenes K13:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/EurogenesK13.png[/URL]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit FM10243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.1
2 West_Asian 22.04
3 Red_Sea 12.49
4 West_Med 11.9
5 North_Atlantic 6.58
6 Northeast_African 3.87
7 South_Asian 2.69
8 East_Asian 1.2
9 Sub-Saharan 0.57
10 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 3.97
2 Lebanese_Muslim 4.16
3 Jordanian 7.1
4 Palestinian 8.14
5 Samaritan 9.66
6 Cyprian 10.18
7 Lebanese_Christian 10.31
8 Kurdish_Jewish 10.41
9 Lebanese_Druze 10.43
10 Iranian_Jewish 10.59
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.01
12 Assyrian 12.02
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.27
14 Bedouin 12.34
15 Sephardic_Jewish 14.19
16 Turkish 14.43
17 Georgian_Jewish 14.79
18 Italian_Jewish 16.32
19 Algerian_Jewish 16.32
20 Armenian 17.18

Dodecad V3:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Dodecad%20V3.png
Dodecad V3 Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Kit FM10243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 31.98
2 Mediterranean 27.87
3 Southwest_Asian 21.2
4 West_European 5.27
5 South_Asian 3.87
6 Northwest_African 3.8
7 East_African 2.99
8 Palaeo_African 1.39
9 Neo_African 0.75
10 Southeast_Asian 0.53
11 East_European 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.83
2 Palestinian (HGDP) 5.94
3 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 7.24
4 Samaritians (Behar) 8.41
5 Jordanians_19 (Behar) 8.99
6 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.01
7 Syrians (Behar) 9.05
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 9.34
9 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 9.51
10 Druze (HGDP) 9.69
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 11.4
12 Kurd (Xing) 13.96
13 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.13
14 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.74
15 Egypt (Henn) 15.89
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.9
17 Cypriots (Behar) 16.35
18 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.72
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.81
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 18.11

Mixed mode population sharing:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Mixed%20mode%20population%20sharing.png

[Mortimer]

congrats on your results

[Anglojew]

Congrats on your results.

You representative of the ancient Levantines prior to the Arab push northwards. This is why you're matching with more northern populations. This seems supported with your Gedmatch results with pre-Arabian Judean (Mandean), Berber and pure Levantine (Druze) similarities.

My Levantine shows as Mandean in Gedmatch incidently. The Mandeans are a proto-Christian Judean cult that migrated to Iraq, but didn't intermarry, so are very close to the ancient Judeans.

[Sikeliot]

Typical Levantine results, similar to what Lebanese get. Clearly Palestinians are mostly Levantines and not "Arab conquerors".

[curupira]

Are you Palestinian?

[Kamal900]

Are you Palestinian?

Yes, i am.

[Kamal900]

Congrats on your results.

You representative of the ancient Levantines prior to the Arab push northwards. This is why you're matching with more northern populations. This seems supported with your Gedmatch results with pre-Arabian Judean (Mandean), Berber and pure Levantine (Druze) similarities.

My Levantine shows as Mandean in Gedmatch incidently. The Mandeans are a proto-Christian Judean cult that migrated to Iraq, but didn't intermarry, so are very close to the ancient Judeans.

Pretty much.

[Anglojew]

Pretty much.

Mandean Unity.

[Longbowman]

Neither of you are Mandaeans, but between you you are probably about one full ancient Judaean.

[oblivion]

Awesome! Mabrouk! Our results are very similar!

[Kamal900]

Neither of you are Mandaeans, but between you you are probably about one full ancient Judaean.

Who's fully Judaean? me?

[Kamal900]

Awesome! Mabrouk! Our results are very similar!

Aww, thanks habibty X3

[Drxgioria]

you got interesting genetic connection with anatolians , congrats.

[Longbowman]

Who's fully Judaean? me?

You're like 75-80%, he's like 20-25%.

[Sikeliot]

Who's fully Judaean? me?

Full Levantine. Keep in mind all of these ancient Canaanite people -- Phoenicians, Israelites, Edomites, etc. were all more or less one. Their languages were mutually intelligible, and before Judaism, they worshipped the same gods.

[Alessio]

Full Levantine. Keep in mind all of these ancient Canaanite people -- Phoenicians, Israelites, Edomites, etc. were all more or less one. Their languages were mutually intelligible, and before Judaism, they worshipped the same gods.

I thought only Levantine Christians were representable as being genetically most native to the Levant due to less mixing with populations outside of the Levant.

[Sikeliot]

I thought only Levantine Christians were representable as being genetically most native to the Levant due to less mixing with populations outside of the Levant.

The genetic differences are not along religious lines. Muslim Levantines are Arabized.

[Alessio]

The genetic differences are not along religious lines. Muslim Levantines are Arabized.

There were some articles written about this and Eurogenes and/or Dodecad had Lebanese Christians and Muslims divided in separate groups if I'm not mistaken.
Christians didn't intermix with other 'Arabs' except their own, so this was the reason for the difference between the two; they're definitely an isolate population..

''We show that religious affiliation had a strong impact on the genomes of the Levantines. In particular, conversion of the region's populations to Islam appears to have introduced major rearrangements in populations' relations through admixture with culturally similar but geographically remote populations, leading to genetic similarities between remarkably distant populations like Jordanians, Moroccans, and Yemenis. Conversely, other populations, like Christians and Druze, became genetically isolated in the new cultural environment.''

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1003316

[Sikeliot]

There were some articles written about this and Eurogenes or Dodecad had Lebanese Christians and Muslims divided in separate groups if I'm not mistaken.
Christians didn't intermix with other 'Arabs' except their own, so this was the reason for the difference between the two; they're definitely an isolate population..

Muslims in Lebanon have more West Euro influence (I think 5% or so) that is likely Norman or Crusader.

[Alessio]

Muslims in Lebanon have more West Euro influence (I think 5% or so) that is likely Norman or Crusader.

Read again.

[Sikeliot]

Read again.

I read it correctly and responded in kind.

Lebanese Muslims are shifted toward Europeans more than the Christians are. Lebanese Christians are "purer" Levantines, while Lebanese Muslims have a small European admixture. It is contrary to what people think. Neither group has substantial Arabian conqueror mixture.

[StonyArabia]

Cool results. Native Levantine.

[Alessio]

I read it correctly and responded in kind.

Lebanese Muslims are shifted toward Europeans more than the Christians are. Lebanese Christians are "purer" Levantines, while Lebanese Muslims have a small European admixture. It is contrary to what people think. Neither group has substantial Arabian conqueror mixture.

I would say so yes but I was right that the two can be and are usually divided into two groups.

[DarknessInside]

I guess you're an Arabicized Israeli.

[Voskos]

thats a lot of asia minor.