My GEDmatch results

[Kamal900]

Here are my GEDmatch results:

Jtest:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Jtest.png
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 37.86
2 MIDDLE_EASTERN 20.16
3 WEST_ASIAN 16.48
4 WEST_MED 9.35
5 ASHKENAZI 5.79
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.05
7 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 3.03
8 EAST_AFRICAN 2.40


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 IQ @ 9.036242
2 Samaritan @ 10.631749
3 Mandean @ 12.283883
4 Assyrian @ 14.162012
5 Druze @ 16.881546
6 TR @ 20.019768
7 Armenian @ 20.325636
8 GR @ 20.854652
9 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 21.452969
10 Kurdish @ 22.171505
11 IR @ 23.337337
12 AJ @ 33.862679
13 Algerian @ 34.521378
14 Tuscan @ 34.832615
15 GE @ 39.569893
16 Moroccan @ 39.832100
17 North_Italian @ 40.269737
18 RO @ 40.605133
19 Bedouin @ 42.347263
20 Serbian @ 42.383530

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mandean +50% Samaritan @ 6.080221


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IQ +25% Samaritan +25% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.444737


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian + Druze + Mandean + Mandean @ 3.097530
2 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + Mandean @ 3.306703
3 IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan + TR @ 3.523220
4 IQ + Mandean + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.805326
5 Algerian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Druze @ 4.076247
6 Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.132244
7 GR + IQ + IQ + Samaritan @ 4.153470
8 GR + IQ + Mandean + Samaritan @ 4.191198
9 Druze + Mandean + Mandean + Moroccan @ 4.198832
10 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + IQ @ 4.250764
11 Armenian + IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.343150
12 Assyrian + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.424001
13 IQ + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.444737
14 Algerian + Druze + Kurdish + Samaritan @ 4.522501
15 Armenian + Bedouin + Druze + GR @ 4.560217
16 Algerian + Armenian + Druze + Mandean @ 4.646822
17 GR + Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.654131
18 Druze + IQ + IQ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.663242
19 Algerian + Druze + IQ + Mandean @ 4.679577
20 GR + IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.680312

Eurogenes K13:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/EurogenesK13.png[/URL]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit FM10243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.1
2 West_Asian 22.04
3 Red_Sea 12.49
4 West_Med 11.9
5 North_Atlantic 6.58
6 Northeast_African 3.87
7 South_Asian 2.69
8 East_Asian 1.2
9 Sub-Saharan 0.57
10 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 3.97
2 Lebanese_Muslim 4.16
3 Jordanian 7.1
4 Palestinian 8.14
5 Samaritan 9.66
6 Cyprian 10.18
7 Lebanese_Christian 10.31
8 Kurdish_Jewish 10.41
9 Lebanese_Druze 10.43
10 Iranian_Jewish 10.59
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.01
12 Assyrian 12.02
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.27
14 Bedouin 12.34
15 Sephardic_Jewish 14.19
16 Turkish 14.43
17 Georgian_Jewish 14.79
18 Italian_Jewish 16.32
19 Algerian_Jewish 16.32
20 Armenian 17.18

Dodecad V3:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Dodecad%20V3.png
Dodecad V3 Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Kit FM10243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 31.98
2 Mediterranean 27.87
3 Southwest_Asian 21.2
4 West_European 5.27
5 South_Asian 3.87
6 Northwest_African 3.8
7 East_African 2.99
8 Palaeo_African 1.39
9 Neo_African 0.75
10 Southeast_Asian 0.53
11 East_European 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.83
2 Palestinian (HGDP) 5.94
3 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 7.24
4 Samaritians (Behar) 8.41
5 Jordanians_19 (Behar) 8.99
6 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.01
7 Syrians (Behar) 9.05
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 9.34
9 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 9.51
10 Druze (HGDP) 9.69
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 11.4
12 Kurd (Xing) 13.96
13 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.13
14 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.74
15 Egypt (Henn) 15.89
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.9
17 Cypriots (Behar) 16.35
18 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.72
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.81
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 18.11

Mixed mode population sharing:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Mixed%20mode%20population%20sharing.png

[Sikeliot]

Try Dodecad K12b, and HarappaWorld also.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Great results, Interesting. Congrats for your Gedmatch results.

[Sikeliot]

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IQ +25% Samaritan +25% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.444737


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian + Druze + Mandean + Mandean @ 3.097530
2 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + Mandean @ 3.306703
3 IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan + TR @ 3.523220
4 IQ + Mandean + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.805326
5 Algerian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Druze @ 4.076247
6 Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.132244
7 GR + IQ + IQ + Samaritan @ 4.153470
8 GR + IQ + Mandean + Samaritan @ 4.191198
9 Druze + Mandean + Mandean + Moroccan @ 4.198832
10 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + IQ @ 4.250764
11 Armenian + IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.343150
12 Assyrian + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.424001
13 IQ + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.444737
14 Algerian + Druze + Kurdish + Samaritan @ 4.522501
15 Armenian + Bedouin + Druze + GR @ 4.560217
16 Algerian + Armenian + Druze + Mandean @ 4.646822
17 GR + Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.654131
18 Druze + IQ + IQ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.663242
19 Algerian + Druze + IQ + Mandean @ 4.679577
20 GR + IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.680312

Cousins :D

"GR" on there is a Greek islands sample from Dodecanese, by the way. So it makes sense in your Oracle that result substitutes in for the South Italian/Sicilian sometimes.

[Kamal900]

Cousins :D

"GR" on there is a Greek islands sample from Dodecanese, by the way. So it makes sense in your Oracle that result substitutes in for the South Italian/Sicilian sometimes.

btw, what is IQ? And whats your opinion of my results?

[Kamal900]

Try Dodecad K12b, and HarappaWorld also.

HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.38
2 SW-Asian 23.11
3 Mediterranean 14.65
4 Baloch 12.86
5 E-African 2.90
6 NE-Euro 2.76
7 S-Indian 1.18
8 NE-Asian 1.09


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 lebanese @ 3.725409
2 palestinian @ 5.366508
3 syrian @ 5.728073
4 jordanian @ 7.622654
5 lebanese-muslim @ 8.028290
6 iraqi-arab @ 9.572659
7 palestinian @ 10.542896
8 lebanese-christian @ 11.310942
9 lebanese-druze @ 12.137874
10 iraq-jew @ 12.677911
11 armenian @ 13.455248
12 cypriot @ 13.739907
13 uzbekistan-jew @ 13.802686
14 iraqi-mandaean @ 14.111164
15 iranian-jew @ 14.723619
16 samaritian @ 14.738859
17 sephardic-jew @ 15.391601
18 georgia-jew @ 15.462616
19 turkish @ 15.815135
20 turk-kayseri @ 16.511944

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% lebanese +50% lebanese @ 3.725409


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% palestinian +25% palestinian +25% sephardic-jew @ 2.027557


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 iraq-jew + iraqi-arab + jordanian + morocco-jew @ 1.516860
2 iranian-jew + iraqi-arab + jordanian + morocco-jew @ 1.772514
3 iraqi-mandaean + jordanian + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.800232
4 iraqi-arab + lebanese-christian + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.801829
5 egypt + iraqi-mandaean + sephardic-jew + uzbekistan-jew @ 1.817379
6 egypt + iranian-jew + morocco-jew + uzbekistan-jew @ 1.857891
7 jordanian + morocco-jew + palestinian + uzbekistan-jew @ 1.888428
8 iraqi-arab + iraqi-mandaean + jordanian + morocco-jew @ 1.894511
9 iranian-jew + iraqi-arab + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.917197
10 iraq-jew + iraqi-arab + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.931457
11 egypt + iraqi-mandaean + morocco-jew + uzbekistan-jew @ 1.931646
12 iraqi-arab + iraqi-mandaean + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.931874
13 assyrian + iraqi-arab + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.969590
14 iranian-jew + jordanian + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.989025
15 egypt + iranian-jew + sephardic-jew + uzbekistan-jew @ 2.001677
16 iranian + jordanian + morocco-jew + samaritian @ 2.008861
17 palestinian + palestinian + palestinian + sephardic-jew @ 2.027557
18 assyrian + egypt + iraqi-mandaean + morocco-jew @ 2.040262
19 jordanian + kurd + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 2.047955
20 morocco-jew + palestinian + palestinian + uzbekistan-jew @ 2.062679

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Kit FM10243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.05
2 Southwest_Asian 21.8
3 Atlantic_Med 14.21
4 Gedrosia 12.86
5 Northwest_African 5
6 East_African 2.98
7 North_European 1.95
8 South_Asian 1.54
9 East_Asian 0.95
10 Sub_Saharan 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.12
2 Syrians (Behar) 7.45
3 Jordanians (Behar) 7.96
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 10.93
5 Druze (HGDP) 11.47
6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 12.11
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.87
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 14.26
9 Cypriots (Behar) 14.77
10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.05
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15.62
12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.82
13 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.89
14 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.04
15 Turks (Behar) 16.43
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.47
17 Samaritians (Behar) 16.79
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.12
19 Kurd (Dodecad) 19.14
20 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 19.18

Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.05
2 Southwest_Asian 21.80
3 Atlantic_Med 14.21
4 Gedrosia 12.86
5 Northwest_African 5.00
6 East_African 2.98
7 North_European 1.95
8 South_Asian 1.54


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese @ 5.542099
2 Syrians @ 7.861998
3 Jordanians @ 8.314487
4 Palestinian @ 11.553473
5 Druze @ 12.775885
6 Iraq_Jews @ 13.220867
7 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 13.951524
8 Iranian_Jews @ 15.624302
9 Sephardic_Jews @ 16.112579
10 Cypriots @ 16.163862
11 Assyrian @ 17.255264
12 Morocco_Jews @ 17.261137
13 Georgia_Jews @ 17.445190
14 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 17.525991
15 Turks @ 17.526476
16 Turkish @ 17.610006
17 Samaritians @ 18.233837
18 Egyptans @ 19.932726
19 Kurd @ 20.661077
20 Kurds @ 20.723112

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +50% Lebanese @ 5.542099


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Jordanians +25% Kurd +25% Morocco_Jews @ 1.943974


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Iranian + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian @ 1.630146
2 Iranians + Jordanians + Palestinian + Sephardic_Jews @ 1.737514
3 Jordanians + Kurd + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian @ 1.813558
4 Iranians + Palestinian + Palestinian + Sephardic_Jews @ 1.871653
5 Iranian + Jordanians + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews @ 1.894177
6 Iranian + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian + Palestinian @ 1.912480
7 Iranians + Lebanese + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian @ 1.917817
8 Jordanians + Jordanians + Kurd + Morocco_Jews @ 1.943974
9 Jordanians + Kurds + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian @ 1.990946
10 Iranians + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian @ 1.995862
11 Jordanians + Jordanians + Kurds + Morocco_Jews @ 2.036665
12 Kurd + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian + Syrians @ 2.049291
13 Iranians + Jordanians + Jordanians + Sephardic_Jews @ 2.095435
14 Iranian + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian + Syrians @ 2.134742
15 Jordanians + Kurd + Palestinian + Sephardic_Jews @ 2.145469
16 Iranian + Jordanians + Palestinian + Sephardic_Jews @ 2.152212
17 Kurd + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian + Palestinian @ 2.179514
18 Druze + Iranians + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian @ 2.196681
19 Iranians + Morocco_Jews + Palestinian + Palestinian @ 2.206628
20 Iranians + Jordanians + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews @ 2.235663

[Pahli]

Congrats on your results, they look good! :D

[Kamal900]

Congrats on your results, they look good! :D

Thanks dude. Whats your opinion on it?

[Sikeliot]

I think your results are that of a pure Levantine, as they should be :)

[Kamal900]

I think your results are that of a pure Levantine, as they should be :)

Thats good to hear then.

[Sikeliot]

Thats good to hear then.

So you're basically the equivalent of half Mesopotamian, a quarter Samaritan, and a quarter South Italian/Sicilian/Aegean islands. This is probably close to "pure" Levantine, as Samaritans are isolated and Mesopotamian groups are closely related to Levantines.

[Longbowman]

Not Jewish enough.

IQ = Iraq :)

[Smeagol]

Cool results.

[Kamal900]

Cool results.

Whats your opinion on it?

[Alessio]

Try Dodecad K12b, and HarappaWorld also.

you see now..

[Kamal900]

World9 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southern 43.79
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 36.16
3 Atlantic_Baltic 12.69
4 African 3.79
5 South_Asian 2.39
6 East_Asian 1.06


Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
9 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese @ 2.353862
2 Syrians @ 4.054829
3 Druze @ 5.695301
4 Jordanians @ 8.027712
5 Cypriots @ 8.812212
6 Palestinian @ 8.904497
7 Georgia_Jews @ 9.805931
8 Assyrian @ 14.264633
9 Iraq_Jews @ 14.315379
10 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 14.391229
11 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 14.889322
12 Samaritians @ 15.175529
13 Armenian @ 15.619842
14 Turkish @ 15.684603
15 Armenians @ 16.607557
16 Iranian_Jews @ 16.675928
17 Turks @ 16.684025
18 Armenians @ 16.932611
19 Sephardic_Jews @ 18.657032
20 Morocco_Jews @ 19.610973

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +50% Lebanese @ 2.353862


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Palestinian +25% Sephardic_Jews +25% Kurds @ 1.747289


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Iranians + Jordanians + Samaritians + Sephardic_Jews @ 1.006943
2 Iranian + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews + Samaritians @ 1.008848
3 Bedouin + Georgia_Jews + Iranians + Sephardic_Jews @ 1.031823
4 Iranian + Bedouin + Georgia_Jews + Morocco_Jews @ 1.046788
5 Iranians + Lebanese + Morocco_Jews + Samaritians @ 1.053107
6 Kurd + Bedouin + Sephardic_Jews + Syrians @ 1.142349
7 Bedouin + Sephardic_Jews + Syrians + Kurds @ 1.145014
8 Kurd + Lebanese + Saudis + Sephardic_Jews @ 1.193001
9 Bedouin + Cypriots + Cypriots + Iranians @ 1.196377
10 Iranian + Bedouin + Druze + Sephardic_Jews @ 1.219022
11 Bedouin + Georgia_Jews + Iranians + Morocco_Jews @ 1.241383
12 S_Italian + Iranians + Syrians + Yemen_Jews @ 1.267400
13 Iranian + Lebanese + Saudis + Sephardic_Jews @ 1.278587
14 Lebanese + Saudis + Sephardic_Jews + Kurds @ 1.321038
15 S_Italian_Sicilian + Iranians + Syrians + Yemen_Jews @ 1.350730
16 Kurd + Bedouin + Georgia_Jews + Morocco_Jews @ 1.350744
17 Kurd + Saudis + Sephardic_Jews + Syrians @ 1.356736
18 Iranians + Morocco_Jews + Samaritians + Syrians @ 1.383747
19 Iranian + Palestinian + Morocco_Jews + Samaritians @ 1.395123
20 Saudis + Sephardic_Jews + Syrians + Kurds @ 1.403971

[Lock]

Was it what you were expecting?

[Sikeliot]

The "Southern" component is one shared with Southern Europeans, and shows that one wave of migration out of the Levant and other Near Eastern regions contributed greatly to European genes. However, other components arrived to the Levant later.

Your results are very interesting :)

[Kamal900]

Was it what you were expecting?

More or less.

[Hevo]

Nice results, what are your haplogroups?

[Kamal900]

Nice results, what are your haplogroups?

I dont know yet, but i would be getting my maternal haplogroup in June. My autosomal results came in yesterday, and it is interesting to say the least.

[Smeagol]

Whats your opinion on it?

Typical for Palestinians I guess?

[oblivion]

What does north east africa represent in eurogenes k13

[Longbowman]

Have you sent your data to Eurogenes?

[Highlands]

i think your west Asian is a little high but im not sure. you seem a little iranic-shifted.

id have to check averages for your ethnicity

[Kamal900]

Have you sent your data to Eurogenes?

Yes, i did.

[Kamal900]

i think your west Asian is a little high but im not sure. you seem a little iranic-shifted.

id have to check averages for your ethnicity

Maybe. Kurds are the closest secondary population to me genetically.

[oblivion]

Where are you from in Palestine?

[Sikeliot]

What does north east africa represent in eurogenes k13

East African. This component is also present in Bantu populations from southern Africa (Angola to Mozambique) and in Sudanese, Nilotic people etc. so it's not a Caucasoid component. Ethiopians score a mix of "NE African" and "Red Sea", with Red Sea being Arabian-like.

I guess think of it as Nilo-Saharan. I score some too.

[Kamal900]

Where are you from in Palestine?

My family originally from Acre.

[oblivion]

East African. This component is also present in Bantu populations from southern Africa (Angola to Mozambique) and in Sudanese, Nilotic people etc. so it's not a Caucasoid component. Ethiopians score a mix of "NE African" and "Red Sea", with Red Sea being Arabian-like.

I guess think of it as Nilo-Saharan. I score some too.
According to eurogenes I am 11% north east african but im guessing its ancient

[oblivion]

My family originally from Acre.

Ah ok so more northern... Im guessing northern palestinians are closer to lebanese and southern palis are closer to egyptians

[Kamal900]

Ah ok so more northern... Im guessing northern palestinians are closer to lebanese and southern palis are closer to egyptians

I would think so, but i think that Palestinians as a whole cluster more with the afro-asiatic peoples in Asia and Africa(Copts, Berbers, Cushtics and etc) than to Turks, Assyrians, and other northern Middle Easterners:

"A 2013 study of Haber and et al. found that "The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen." The authors explained that "religious affiliation had a strong impact on the genomes of the Levantines. In particular, conversion of the region's populations to Islam appears to have introduced major rearrangements in populations' relations through admixture with culturally similar but geographically remote populations leading to genetic similarities between remarkably distant populations." The authors also reconstructed the genetic structure of pre-Islamic Levant and found that "it was more genetically similar to Europeans than to Middle Easterners."

"Only 25 randomly selected samples from each Lebanese group were used in order to avoid population size biases (Figure S3). The plots reveal a Levantine structure not reported previously: Lebanese Christians and all Druze cluster together, and Lebanese Muslims are extended towards Syrians, Palestinians, and Jordanians, which are close to Saudis and Bedouins. Ashkenazi Jews are drawn towards the Caucasus and Eastern Europe, reflecting historical admixture events with Europeans, while Sephardi Jews cluster tightly with the Levantine groups. These results are consistent with previous studies reporting higher European genome-wide admixture in Ashkenazi Jews compared with other Jews and higher Y-chromosomal gene flow to Lebanese Muslims from the Arabian Peninsula compared with other Lebanese.

The population tree (Figure 3A) splits Levantine populations in two branches: one leading to Europeans and Central Asians that includes Lebanese, Armenians, Cypriots, Druze and Jews, as well as Turks, Iranians and Caucasian populations; and a second branch composed of Palestinians, Jordanians, Syrians, as well as North Africans, Ethiopians, Saudis, and Bedouins.

The tree shows a correlation between religion and the population structures in the Levant: all Jews (Sephardi and Ashkenazi) cluster in one branch; Druze from Mount Lebanon and Druze from Mount Carmel are depicted on a private branch; and Lebanese Christians form a private branch with the Christian populations of Armenia and Cyprus placing the Lebanese Muslims as an outer group. The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen. It should be noted here that the results depend significantly on populations included in the analysis as well as recent admixture events, and so should be treated as an approximate guide to similarity, rather than a full population history."

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?156094-Genome-Wide-Diversity-in-the-Levant-Reveals-Recent-Structuring-by-Culture

[oblivion]

I would think so, but i think that Palestinians as a whole cluster more with the afro-asiatic peoples in Asia and Africa(Copts, Berbers, Cushtics and etc) than to Turks, Assyrians, and other northern Middle Easterners:

"A 2013 study of Haber and et al. found that "The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen." The authors explained that "religious affiliation had a strong impact on the genomes of the Levantines. In particular, conversion of the region's populations to Islam appears to have introduced major rearrangements in populations' relations through admixture with culturally similar but geographically remote populations leading to genetic similarities between remarkably distant populations." The authors also reconstructed the genetic structure of pre-Islamic Levant and found that "it was more genetically similar to Europeans than to Middle Easterners."

"Only 25 randomly selected samples from each Lebanese group were used in order to avoid population size biases (Figure S3). The plots reveal a Levantine structure not reported previously: Lebanese Christians and all Druze cluster together, and Lebanese Muslims are extended towards Syrians, Palestinians, and Jordanians, which are close to Saudis and Bedouins. Ashkenazi Jews are drawn towards the Caucasus and Eastern Europe, reflecting historical admixture events with Europeans, while Sephardi Jews cluster tightly with the Levantine groups. These results are consistent with previous studies reporting higher European genome-wide admixture in Ashkenazi Jews compared with other Jews and higher Y-chromosomal gene flow to Lebanese Muslims from the Arabian Peninsula compared with other Lebanese.

The population tree (Figure 3A) splits Levantine populations in two branches: one leading to Europeans and Central Asians that includes Lebanese, Armenians, Cypriots, Druze and Jews, as well as Turks, Iranians and Caucasian populations; and a second branch composed of Palestinians, Jordanians, Syrians, as well as North Africans, Ethiopians, Saudis, and Bedouins.

The tree shows a correlation between religion and the population structures in the Levant: all Jews (Sephardi and Ashkenazi) cluster in one branch; Druze from Mount Lebanon and Druze from Mount Carmel are depicted on a private branch; and Lebanese Christians form a private branch with the Christian populations of Armenia and Cyprus placing the Lebanese Muslims as an outer group. The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen. It should be noted here that the results depend significantly on populations included in the analysis as well as recent admixture events, and so should be treated as an approximate guide to similarity, rather than a full population history."

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?156094-Genome-Wide-Diversity-in-the-Levant-Reveals-Recent-Structuring-by-Culture

I feel that way too.. I often see palis bedouins jordanians and egyptians cluster close together

[Sikeliot]

According to eurogenes I am 11% north east african but im guessing its ancient

It's due to Egypt being linked genetically to the Horn of Africa in ancient times, it's definitely ancient.

[Kamal900]

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the Eurogenes K36 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Eurogenes Genetic Ancestry Project blog.

Kit Number: FM10243 Iteration: 1000 Delta-Q: 6.089577e+00 Elapsed Time: 162.35 seconds


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 12.39%
Armenian 6.83%
Basque 1.42%
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.87%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 22.62%
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian 0.71%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.42%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 22.51%
North_African 3.78%
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 5.59%
North_Sea -
Northeast_African 3.16%
Oceanian 0.18%
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 5.80%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.89%
West_Med 2.81%

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Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer Admixture Proportions

This utility uses the Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Eurogenes blog. We appreciate him making this excellent tool available here.

A map showing the HGvF populations is available HERE.

Population descriptions are available HERE.

Kit Number: FM10243 Iteration: 1000 Delta-Q: 1.110395e+01 Elapsed Time: 51.25 seconds


Population
Anatolian Farmer 38.48%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 0.05%
Middle Eastern Herder 28.26%
East Asian Farmer 0.67%
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 3.01%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist 4.93%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.59%
Mediterranean Farmer 23.72%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.30%
Bantu Farmer -


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[Yuffayur]

Congrats, you appear like a regular Levatine.

[Pennywise]

You Anatolian nigga :laugh: You've got Turk_Kayseri and Turkish too.

[Kamal900]

You Anatolian nigga :laugh: You've got Turk_Kayseri and Turkish too.

I don't have much if any Turkish ancestry, and i'm mostly genetically affiliated with other Levantines, Caucasians and to Mesopotamian to certain extent.

[Pennywise]

I don't have much if any Turkish ancestry, and i'm mostly genetically affiliated with other Levantines, Caucasians and to Mesopotamian to certain extent.

Compare your results with Turkish members. They have also mainly mid-east/Anatolian ancestry (according to the map) but in the gedmatch they are clustering with other Turkic peoples, especially with Tatars and Turkmens.

Gültekin
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?168197-G%FCltekin-s-FTDNA-MyOrigins-Results&p=3534776&viewfull=1#post3534776

Bulut

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?168197-G%FCltekin-s-FTDNA-MyOrigins-Results&p=3539522&viewfull=1#post3539522

VideSupra

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?171252-VideSupra-My-Origins&p=3592981&viewfull=1#post3592981

[MINARDOWICZ]

You are closer to S Italian than Bedouin on the Oracle. LOL.

[Kamal900]

Compare your results with Turkish members. They have also mainly mid-east/Anatolian ancestry (according to the map) but in the gedmatch They are clustering with other Turkic peoples, espiically with Tatars and Turkmens.

Gültekin
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?168197-G%FCltekin-s-FTDNA-MyOrigins-Results&p=3534776&viewfull=1#post3534776

Bulut

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?168197-G%FCltekin-s-FTDNA-MyOrigins-Results&p=3539522&viewfull=1#post3539522

VideSupra

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?171252-VideSupra-My-Origins&p=3592981&viewfull=1#post3592981

How can i compare my results if i don't have their autosomal data files for me to do it in gedmatch? The closest peoples that i get in my oracle results in most calculators are with Levantines, Mizhari jews, Samaritans and to other peoples in the Caucasus and Mesopotamia. I have no east Asian or Siberian admixture in my genepool either.

[Kamal900]

You are closer to S Italian than Bedouin on the Oracle. LOL.

Southern Italians along with some Greek Islanders are the closest Europeans to me genetically. Yes, its a bit odd isnt it? lol.

[Pennywise]

How can i compare my results if i don't have their autosomal data files for me to do it in gedmatch? The closest peoples that i get in my oracle results in most calculators are with Levantines, Mizhari jews, Samaritans and to other peoples in the Caucasus and Mesopotamia. I have no east Asian or Siberian admixture in my genepool either.

Yes you don't. That's what I'm saying. Despite your predominant Anatolian/Minor Asia genes, you are not clustering with Turkic peoples. But many Turks are.

[Kamal900]

Yes you don't. That's what I'm saying. Despite your predmoinant Anatolian/Minor Asia genes, you are not clustering with Turkic peoples. But many Turks are.

My genetic affiliation with Anatolia is more to do with west Asian affiliation than with Turks, so yeah, i don't cluster with Turks or with Turkic peoples for that matter. Since Anatolians(non-Turks) are genetically a sister group to the Levant, it does makes sense on why i score such high Anatolian admixture in me.

[Pennywise]

My genetic affiliation with Anatolia is more to do with west Asian affiliation than with Turks, so yeah, i don't cluster with Turks or with Turkic peoples for that matter. Since Anatolians(non-Turks) are genetically a sister group to the Levant, it does makes sense on why i score such high Anatolian admixture in me.

Your theories about Turks are going down.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0M5D5OA-d4

Gedmatch always wins.

[Kamal900]

Your theories about Turks are going down.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0M5D5OA-d4

Gedmatch always wins.

No, and you can read this recent genetic study on Turkic peoples that proves on what i have said about Turks being mostly of indigenous stock with small Turkic admixture:
http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1005068

What i said in the past is backed with earlier genetic studies about Turks and Azeris.

[Kamal900]

bump

[Hadouken]

typical north levantine results

[MaldenK]

Your Dodecad V3 is same as mine.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 32.06
2 Mediterranean 28.9
3 Southwest_Asian 25.88
4 East_African 4.69
5 Northwest_African 3.11
6 West_European 2.96
7 South_Asian 1.98
8 Neo_African 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Palestinian (HGDP) 4.06
2 Lebanese (Behar) 4.51
3 Samaritians (Behar) 5.36
4 Jordanians_19 (Behar) 5.41
5 Syrians (Behar) 7.27
6 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 8.91
7 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.1
8 Druze (HGDP) 10.15
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 10.62
10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.03
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.69
12 Egypt (Henn) 15.39
13 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.88
14 Cypriots (Behar) 16.95
15 Kurd (Xing) 17.5
16 Assyrian (Dodecad) 18.33
17 Bedouin (HGDP) 19.35
18 Kurd (Dodecad) 19.38
19 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.61
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 19.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.9% Palestinian (HGDP) + 40.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 2.56
2 93.2% Samaritians (Behar) + 6.8% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.86
3 93.3% Samaritians (Behar) + 6.7% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 2.89
4 93.3% Samaritians (Behar) + 6.7% East_African (Dodecad) @ 2.95
5 68.6% Jordanians_19 (Behar) + 31.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.1
6 50.4% Samaritians (Behar) + 49.6% Jordanians_19 (Behar) @ 3.14
7 66.5% Druze (HGDP) + 33.5% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.22
8 77.9% Samaritians (Behar) + 22.1% Egypt (Henn) @ 3.24
9 83.8% Samaritians (Behar) + 16.2% Yemenese (Behar) @ 3.26
10 79.8% Palestinian (HGDP) + 20.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.27
11 82.7% Samaritians (Behar) + 17.3% Egyptans (Behar) @ 3.32
12 82.3% Palestinian (HGDP) + 17.7% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.43
13 81.6% Palestinian (HGDP) + 18.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.44
14 79.6% Palestinian (HGDP) + 20.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.48
15 67.8% Druze (HGDP) + 32.2% Egyptans (Behar) @ 3.48
16 76.2% Jordanians_19 (Behar) + 23.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.49
17 66.6% Jordanians_19 (Behar) + 33.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.51
18 69.9% Jordanians_19 (Behar) + 30.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.57
19 87.7% Palestinian (HGDP) + 12.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.62
20 71.3% Jordanians_19 (Behar) + 28.7% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.62

[Leto]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit FM10243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.1
2 West_Asian 22.04
3 Red_Sea 12.49
4 West_Med 11.9
5 North_Atlantic 6.58
6 Northeast_African 3.87
7 South_Asian 2.69
8 East_Asian 1.2
9 Sub-Saharan 0.57
10 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 3.97
2 Lebanese_Muslim 4.16
3 Jordanian 7.1
4 Palestinian 8.14
5 Samaritan 9.66
6 Cyprian 10.18
7 Lebanese_Christian 10.31
8 Kurdish_Jewish 10.41
9 Lebanese_Druze 10.43
10 Iranian_Jewish 10.59
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.01
12 Assyrian 12.02
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.27
14 Bedouin 12.34
15 Sephardic_Jewish 14.19
16 Turkish 14.43
17 Georgian_Jewish 14.79
18 Italian_Jewish 16.32
19 Algerian_Jewish 16.32
20 Armenian 17.18

HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.38
2 SW-Asian 23.11
3 Mediterranean 14.65
4 Baloch 12.86
5 E-African 2.90
6 NE-Euro 2.76
7 S-Indian 1.18
8 NE-Asian 1.09


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 lebanese @ 3.725409
2 palestinian @ 5.366508
3 syrian @ 5.728073
4 jordanian @ 7.622654
5 lebanese-muslim @ 8.028290
6 iraqi-arab @ 9.572659
7 palestinian @ 10.542896
8 lebanese-christian @ 11.310942
9 lebanese-druze @ 12.137874
10 iraq-jew @ 12.677911
11 armenian @ 13.455248
12 cypriot @ 13.739907
13 uzbekistan-jew @ 13.802686
14 iraqi-mandaean @ 14.111164
15 iranian-jew @ 14.723619
16 samaritian @ 14.738859
17 sephardic-jew @ 15.391601
18 georgia-jew @ 15.462616
19 turkish @ 15.815135
20 turk-kayseri @ 16.511944

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% lebanese +50% lebanese @ 3.725409


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% palestinian +25% palestinian +25% sephardic-jew @ 2.027557


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 iraq-jew + iraqi-arab + jordanian + morocco-jew @ 1.516860
2 iranian-jew + iraqi-arab + jordanian + morocco-jew @ 1.772514
3 iraqi-mandaean + jordanian + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.800232
4 iraqi-arab + lebanese-christian + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.801829
5 egypt + iraqi-mandaean + sephardic-jew + uzbekistan-jew @ 1.817379
6 egypt + iranian-jew + morocco-jew + uzbekistan-jew @ 1.857891
7 jordanian + morocco-jew + palestinian + uzbekistan-jew @ 1.888428
8 iraqi-arab + iraqi-mandaean + jordanian + morocco-jew @ 1.894511
9 iranian-jew + iraqi-arab + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.917197
10 iraq-jew + iraqi-arab + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.931457
11 egypt + iraqi-mandaean + morocco-jew + uzbekistan-jew @ 1.931646
12 iraqi-arab + iraqi-mandaean + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.931874
13 assyrian + iraqi-arab + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.969590
14 iranian-jew + jordanian + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 1.989025
15 egypt + iranian-jew + sephardic-jew + uzbekistan-jew @ 2.001677
16 iranian + jordanian + morocco-jew + samaritian @ 2.008861
17 palestinian + palestinian + palestinian + sephardic-jew @ 2.027557
18 assyrian + egypt + iraqi-mandaean + morocco-jew @ 2.040262
19 jordanian + kurd + morocco-jew + palestinian @ 2.047955
20 morocco-jew + palestinian + palestinian + uzbekistan-jew @ 2.062679

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Kit FM10243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.05
2 Southwest_Asian 21.8
3 Atlantic_Med 14.21
4 Gedrosia 12.86
5 Northwest_African 5
6 East_African 2.98
7 North_European 1.95
8 South_Asian 1.54
9 East_Asian 0.95
10 Sub_Saharan 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.12
2 Syrians (Behar) 7.45
3 Jordanians (Behar) 7.96
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 10.93
5 Druze (HGDP) 11.47
6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 12.11
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.87
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 14.26
9 Cypriots (Behar) 14.77
10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.05
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15.62
12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.82
13 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.89
14 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.04
15 Turks (Behar) 16.43
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.47
17 Samaritians (Behar) 16.79
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.12
19 Kurd (Dodecad) 19.14
20 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 19.18
Toppo's results 4 years later, only a slight change :)

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.09
2 West_Asian 22.05
3 Red_Sea 12.5
4 West_Med 11.9
5 North_Atlantic 6.57
6 Northeast_African 3.87
7 South_Asian 2.69
8 East_Asian 1.19
9 Sub-Saharan 0.56
10 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 3.97
2 Lebanese_Muslim 4.17
3 Jordanian 7.1
4 Palestinian 8.14
5 Samaritan 9.66
6 Cyprian 10.19
7 Lebanese_Christian 10.32
8 Kurdish_Jewish 10.41
9 Lebanese_Druze 10.44
10 Iranian_Jewish 10.58
11 Assyrian 12.02
12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.03
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.29
14 Bedouin 12.33
15 Sephardic_Jewish 14.2
16 Turkish 14.42
17 Georgian_Jewish 14.78
18 Italian_Jewish 16.33
19 Algerian_Jewish 16.33
20 Armenian 17.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.9% Palestinian + 35.1% Turkish @ 2.76
2 95.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.9% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.06
3 95% Lebanese_Muslim + 5% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.08
4 96% Lebanese_Muslim + 4% Somali @ 3.15
5 95.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.1% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.2
6 96.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 3.8% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.21
7 81.8% Palestinian + 18.2% Ossetian @ 3.22
8 97.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 2.8% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 3.4
9 73% Lebanese_Muslim + 27% Jordanian @ 3.49
10 84.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.9% Bedouin @ 3.52
11 97% Syrian + 3% West_Scottish @ 3.53
12 55.2% Syrian + 44.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.54
13 97% Syrian + 3% Irish @ 3.55
14 96.9% Syrian + 3.1% Southeast_English @ 3.55
15 97% Syrian + 3% Southwest_English @ 3.55
16 97% Syrian + 3% Orcadian @ 3.56
17 97% Syrian + 3% Danish @ 3.56
18 97% Syrian + 3% North_Dutch @ 3.56
19 97.2% Syrian + 2.8% Norwegian @ 3.58
20 89.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 10.9% Egyptian @ 3.58


HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.38
2 SW-Asian 23.12
3 Mediterranean 14.62
4 Baloch 12.82
5 E-African 3.04
6 NE-Euro 2.75
7 NE-Asian 1.23
8 S-Indian 1.17
9 Pygmy 0.82
10 W-African 0.5
11 Papuan 0.4
12 American 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 lebanese (behar) 3.44
2 palestinian (harappa) 5.05
3 syrian (behar) 5.38
4 jordanian (behar) 7.07
5 lebanese-muslim (haber) 7.35
6 iraqi-arab (harappa) 8.87
7 palestinian (hgdp) 9.73
8 lebanese-christian (haber) 10.2
9 lebanese-druze (haber) 10.97
10 iraq-jew (behar) 11.56
11 armenian (harappa) 12.43
12 cypriot (behar) 12.52
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.72
14 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 12.93
15 samaritian (behar) 13.42
16 iranian-jew (behar) 13.44
17 georgia-jew (behar) 14.03
18 sephardic-jew (behar) 14.27
19 turkish (harappa) 14.69
20 assyrian (harappa) 15.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.4% palestinian (harappa) + 24.6% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 2.05
2 91.7% palestinian (harappa) + 8.3% sardinian (hgdp) @ 2.08
3 77.6% palestinian (harappa) + 22.4% morocco-jew (behar) @ 2.19
4 95.8% lebanese (behar) + 4.2% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.61
5 95.7% lebanese (behar) + 4.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.64
6 91.6% syrian (behar) + 8.4% sardinian (hgdp) @ 2.68
7 95.7% lebanese (behar) + 4.3% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.69
8 96.1% lebanese (behar) + 3.9% sindhi (hgdp) @ 2.72
9 96.2% lebanese (behar) + 3.8% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 2.73
10 96.1% lebanese (behar) + 3.9% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.76
11 96.3% lebanese (behar) + 3.7% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.77
12 96.4% lebanese (behar) + 3.6% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.77
13 96.1% lebanese (behar) + 3.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.79
14 96% lebanese (behar) + 4% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.79
15 96.4% lebanese (behar) + 3.6% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 2.8
16 96.2% lebanese (behar) + 3.8% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.81
17 96.5% lebanese (behar) + 3.5% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.82
18 96% lebanese (behar) + 4% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.83
19 97.3% lebanese (behar) + 2.7% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 2.83
20 95.9% lebanese (behar) + 4.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.83


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.05
2 Southwest_Asian 21.79
3 Atlantic_Med 14.19
4 Gedrosia 12.84
5 Northwest_African 5.01
6 East_African 2.98
7 North_European 1.94
8 South_Asian 1.57
9 East_Asian 0.99
10 Sub_Saharan 0.64

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.13
2 Syrians (Behar) 7.46
3 Jordanians (Behar) 7.96
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 10.93
5 Druze (HGDP) 11.47
6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 12.12
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.87
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 14.27
9 Cypriots (Behar) 14.78
10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.07
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15.63
12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.83
13 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.9
14 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.06
15 Turks (Behar) 16.42
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.47
17 Samaritians (Behar) 16.79
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.13
19 Kurd (Dodecad) 19.14
20 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 19.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.3% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.7% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.78
2 95.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.9% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 3.83
3 95.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.6% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.87
4 95% Lebanese (Behar) + 5% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.88
5 94.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.6% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 3.89
6 95.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.9% Indian (Dodecad) @ 3.9
7 95% Lebanese (Behar) + 5% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 3.91
8 94.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.4% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.94
9 95.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.4% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 3.95
10 95.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.5% GIH30 (Dodecad) @ 3.95
11 94.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.6% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.96
12 94.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.5% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 3.97
13 95.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.5% INS30 (SGVP) @ 3.98
14 94.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.9% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.98
15 95.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.4% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 3.98
16 95.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.6% Iyengar (Dodecad) @ 3.99
17 95.2% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.8% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 3.99
18 92.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 7.1% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 4
19 95.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.6% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 4.01
20 95.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.4% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 4.03

[Kamal900]

Toppo's results 4 years later, only a slight change :)

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.09
2 West_Asian 22.05
3 Red_Sea 12.5
4 West_Med 11.9
5 North_Atlantic 6.57
6 Northeast_African 3.87
7 South_Asian 2.69
8 East_Asian 1.19
9 Sub-Saharan 0.56
10 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 3.97
2 Lebanese_Muslim 4.17
3 Jordanian 7.1
4 Palestinian 8.14
5 Samaritan 9.66
6 Cyprian 10.19
7 Lebanese_Christian 10.32
8 Kurdish_Jewish 10.41
9 Lebanese_Druze 10.44
10 Iranian_Jewish 10.58
11 Assyrian 12.02
12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.03
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.29
14 Bedouin 12.33
15 Sephardic_Jewish 14.2
16 Turkish 14.42
17 Georgian_Jewish 14.78
18 Italian_Jewish 16.33
19 Algerian_Jewish 16.33
20 Armenian 17.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.9% Palestinian + 35.1% Turkish @ 2.76
2 95.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.9% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.06
3 95% Lebanese_Muslim + 5% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.08
4 96% Lebanese_Muslim + 4% Somali @ 3.15
5 95.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.1% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.2
6 96.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 3.8% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.21
7 81.8% Palestinian + 18.2% Ossetian @ 3.22
8 97.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 2.8% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 3.4
9 73% Lebanese_Muslim + 27% Jordanian @ 3.49
10 84.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.9% Bedouin @ 3.52
11 97% Syrian + 3% West_Scottish @ 3.53
12 55.2% Syrian + 44.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.54
13 97% Syrian + 3% Irish @ 3.55
14 96.9% Syrian + 3.1% Southeast_English @ 3.55
15 97% Syrian + 3% Southwest_English @ 3.55
16 97% Syrian + 3% Orcadian @ 3.56
17 97% Syrian + 3% Danish @ 3.56
18 97% Syrian + 3% North_Dutch @ 3.56
19 97.2% Syrian + 2.8% Norwegian @ 3.58
20 89.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 10.9% Egyptian @ 3.58


HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.38
2 SW-Asian 23.12
3 Mediterranean 14.62
4 Baloch 12.82
5 E-African 3.04
6 NE-Euro 2.75
7 NE-Asian 1.23
8 S-Indian 1.17
9 Pygmy 0.82
10 W-African 0.5
11 Papuan 0.4
12 American 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 lebanese (behar) 3.44
2 palestinian (harappa) 5.05
3 syrian (behar) 5.38
4 jordanian (behar) 7.07
5 lebanese-muslim (haber) 7.35
6 iraqi-arab (harappa) 8.87
7 palestinian (hgdp) 9.73
8 lebanese-christian (haber) 10.2
9 lebanese-druze (haber) 10.97
10 iraq-jew (behar) 11.56
11 armenian (harappa) 12.43
12 cypriot (behar) 12.52
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.72
14 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 12.93
15 samaritian (behar) 13.42
16 iranian-jew (behar) 13.44
17 georgia-jew (behar) 14.03
18 sephardic-jew (behar) 14.27
19 turkish (harappa) 14.69
20 assyrian (harappa) 15.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.4% palestinian (harappa) + 24.6% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 2.05
2 91.7% palestinian (harappa) + 8.3% sardinian (hgdp) @ 2.08
3 77.6% palestinian (harappa) + 22.4% morocco-jew (behar) @ 2.19
4 95.8% lebanese (behar) + 4.2% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.61
5 95.7% lebanese (behar) + 4.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.64
6 91.6% syrian (behar) + 8.4% sardinian (hgdp) @ 2.68
7 95.7% lebanese (behar) + 4.3% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.69
8 96.1% lebanese (behar) + 3.9% sindhi (hgdp) @ 2.72
9 96.2% lebanese (behar) + 3.8% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 2.73
10 96.1% lebanese (behar) + 3.9% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.76
11 96.3% lebanese (behar) + 3.7% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.77
12 96.4% lebanese (behar) + 3.6% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.77
13 96.1% lebanese (behar) + 3.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.79
14 96% lebanese (behar) + 4% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.79
15 96.4% lebanese (behar) + 3.6% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 2.8
16 96.2% lebanese (behar) + 3.8% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.81
17 96.5% lebanese (behar) + 3.5% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.82
18 96% lebanese (behar) + 4% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.83
19 97.3% lebanese (behar) + 2.7% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 2.83
20 95.9% lebanese (behar) + 4.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.83


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.05
2 Southwest_Asian 21.79
3 Atlantic_Med 14.19
4 Gedrosia 12.84
5 Northwest_African 5.01
6 East_African 2.98
7 North_European 1.94
8 South_Asian 1.57
9 East_Asian 0.99
10 Sub_Saharan 0.64

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.13
2 Syrians (Behar) 7.46
3 Jordanians (Behar) 7.96
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 10.93
5 Druze (HGDP) 11.47
6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 12.12
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.87
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 14.27
9 Cypriots (Behar) 14.78
10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.07
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15.63
12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.83
13 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.9
14 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.06
15 Turks (Behar) 16.42
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.47
17 Samaritians (Behar) 16.79
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.13
19 Kurd (Dodecad) 19.14
20 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 19.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.3% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.7% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.78
2 95.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.9% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 3.83
3 95.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.6% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.87
4 95% Lebanese (Behar) + 5% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.88
5 94.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.6% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 3.89
6 95.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.9% Indian (Dodecad) @ 3.9
7 95% Lebanese (Behar) + 5% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 3.91
8 94.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.4% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.94
9 95.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.4% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 3.95
10 95.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.5% GIH30 (Dodecad) @ 3.95
11 94.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.6% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.96
12 94.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.5% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 3.97
13 95.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.5% INS30 (SGVP) @ 3.98
14 94.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.9% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.98
15 95.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.4% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 3.98
16 95.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.6% Iyengar (Dodecad) @ 3.99
17 95.2% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.8% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 3.99
18 92.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 7.1% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 4
19 95.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.6% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 4.01
20 95.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 4.4% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 4.03

It's a very old thread by internet standards, rofl. How time flies, eh?

[Östsvensk]

It's a very old thread by internet standards, rofl. How time flies, eh?

Christmas 2015 was to me, like, yesterday.

[Östsvensk]

Another Palestinian with Muslim background roots 100km from Egypt posted their Dodecad V3 results on Reddit for comparison with Toppo:

https://i.redd.it/jetw9zj9zh641.jpg

Dodecad K12b:

https://i.imgur.com/Zwk6tKM_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Leto]

It's a very old thread by internet standards, rofl. How time flies, eh?
Yeah and it does feel like yesterday.

By the way, I find your East Med to be quite low. I mean many Lebanese people score 45% easily, even more sometimes.

[Kavkam]

weird dna you're an arab

[Kamal900]

Another Palestinian with Muslim background roots 100km from Egypt posted their Dodecad V3 results on Reddit for comparison with Toppo:

https://i.redd.it/jetw9zj9zh641.jpg

Dodecad K12b:

https://i.imgur.com/Zwk6tKM_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Very typical for a Palestinian really since Palestinian Muslims are over 25% Egyptian genetically on average. I wish we had 23andMe here in the UAE for me to know my ancestry, but sadly there isn't.

[Kamal900]

Yeah and it does feel like yesterday.

By the way, I find your East Med to be quite low. I mean many Lebanese people score 45% easily, even more sometimes.

I guess it's due on the fact that I have more west asian ancestry than anything.

[happycow]

I guess it's due on the fact that I have more west asian ancestry than anything.

Your west asian is higher than mine. I also have more red sea. I get 40% East Med with my ancestry kit and a little less with 23andme v3.

[Kamal900]

Your west asian is higher than mine. I also have more red sea. I get 40% East Med with my ancestry kit and a little less with 23andme v3.

There you go. I guess maybe I have some Caucasian ancestry that I don't know about?

[happycow]

There you go. I guess maybe I have some Caucasian ancestry that I don't know about?

Possibly. Your west asian percentage seems more similar to Lebanese muslims. I think my west asian was just slightly higher than the Palestinian average

[Kamal900]

Possibly. Your west asian percentage seems more similar to Lebanese muslims. I think my west asian was just slightly higher than the Palestinian average

That's true considering that my paternal grandmother was a Lebanese shi3a, so you can say that I'm 1/4th Lebanese genetically while the rest is Palestinian.

[happycow]

That's true considering that my paternal grandmother was a Lebanese shi3a, so you can say that I'm 1/4th Lebanese genetically while the rest is Palestinian.

Wish you could do 23andme. My great grandmother was Lebanese and 23andme managed to pick up the regions. :)

[Kamal900]

Wish you could do 23andme. My great grandmother was Lebanese and 23andme managed to pick up the regions. :)

I wish, but we don't have any clinics here that provide that nor does the company sends it's kits anywhere in the MENA region besides Israel :(

[Mesoman]

Here are my GEDmatch results:

Jtest:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Jtest.png
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 37.86
2 MIDDLE_EASTERN 20.16
3 WEST_ASIAN 16.48
4 WEST_MED 9.35
5 ASHKENAZI 5.79
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.05
7 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 3.03
8 EAST_AFRICAN 2.40


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 IQ @ 9.036242
2 Samaritan @ 10.631749
3 Mandean @ 12.283883
4 Assyrian @ 14.162012
5 Druze @ 16.881546
6 TR @ 20.019768
7 Armenian @ 20.325636
8 GR @ 20.854652
9 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 21.452969
10 Kurdish @ 22.171505
11 IR @ 23.337337
12 AJ @ 33.862679
13 Algerian @ 34.521378
14 Tuscan @ 34.832615
15 GE @ 39.569893
16 Moroccan @ 39.832100
17 North_Italian @ 40.269737
18 RO @ 40.605133
19 Bedouin @ 42.347263
20 Serbian @ 42.383530

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mandean +50% Samaritan @ 6.080221


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IQ +25% Samaritan +25% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.444737


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian + Druze + Mandean + Mandean @ 3.097530
2 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + Mandean @ 3.306703
3 IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan + TR @ 3.523220
4 IQ + Mandean + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.805326
5 Algerian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Druze @ 4.076247
6 Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.132244
7 GR + IQ + IQ + Samaritan @ 4.153470
8 GR + IQ + Mandean + Samaritan @ 4.191198
9 Druze + Mandean + Mandean + Moroccan @ 4.198832
10 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + IQ @ 4.250764
11 Armenian + IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.343150
12 Assyrian + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.424001
13 IQ + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.444737
14 Algerian + Druze + Kurdish + Samaritan @ 4.522501
15 Armenian + Bedouin + Druze + GR @ 4.560217
16 Algerian + Armenian + Druze + Mandean @ 4.646822
17 GR + Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.654131
18 Druze + IQ + IQ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.663242
19 Algerian + Druze + IQ + Mandean @ 4.679577
20 GR + IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.680312

Eurogenes K13:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/EurogenesK13.png[/URL]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit FM10243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.1
2 West_Asian 22.04
3 Red_Sea 12.49
4 West_Med 11.9
5 North_Atlantic 6.58
6 Northeast_African 3.87
7 South_Asian 2.69
8 East_Asian 1.2
9 Sub-Saharan 0.57
10 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 3.97
2 Lebanese_Muslim 4.16
3 Jordanian 7.1
4 Palestinian 8.14
5 Samaritan 9.66
6 Cyprian 10.18
7 Lebanese_Christian 10.31
8 Kurdish_Jewish 10.41
9 Lebanese_Druze 10.43
10 Iranian_Jewish 10.59
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.01
12 Assyrian 12.02
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.27
14 Bedouin 12.34
15 Sephardic_Jewish 14.19
16 Turkish 14.43
17 Georgian_Jewish 14.79
18 Italian_Jewish 16.32
19 Algerian_Jewish 16.32
20 Armenian 17.18

Dodecad V3:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Dodecad%20V3.png
Dodecad V3 Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Kit FM10243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 31.98
2 Mediterranean 27.87
3 Southwest_Asian 21.2
4 West_European 5.27
5 South_Asian 3.87
6 Northwest_African 3.8
7 East_African 2.99
8 Palaeo_African 1.39
9 Neo_African 0.75
10 Southeast_Asian 0.53
11 East_European 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.83
2 Palestinian (HGDP) 5.94
3 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 7.24
4 Samaritians (Behar) 8.41
5 Jordanians_19 (Behar) 8.99
6 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.01
7 Syrians (Behar) 9.05
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 9.34
9 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 9.51
10 Druze (HGDP) 9.69
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 11.4
12 Kurd (Xing) 13.96
13 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 14.13
14 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.74
15 Egypt (Henn) 15.89
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.9
17 Cypriots (Behar) 16.35
18 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.72
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.81
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 18.11

Mixed mode population sharing:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/Mixed%20mode%20population%20sharing.png

Garbage.

[happycow]

Garbage.

What's garbage? The results?

[Mesoman]

What's garbage? The results?

Sorry for not clarifying what I meant, my bad. By garbage I meant that dodecad v3 is garbage when it comes to georgian jews because according to the result, Georgian Jews are closer to Lebanese than Samaritans, Jordanians, Iranian Jews, Syrians, Iraqi Jews, Druze and possibly cypriots are. On top of that the distance in between Georgian Jews and Lebanese in this result is relatively lower than it should realistically be and how it often is in general.

[happycow]

Sorry for not clarifying what I meant, my bad. By garbage I meant that dodecad v3 is garbage when it comes to georgian jews because according to the result, Georgian Jews are closer to Lebanese than Samaritans, Jordanians, Iranian Jews, Syrians, Iraqi Jews, Druze and possibly cypriots are. On top of that the distance in between Georgian Jews and Lebanese in this result is relatively lower than it should realistically be and how it often is in general.

Oh ok. I see. :)