Who invented Vodka?

[Marusya]

I just watched these documentaries about the history of Vodka. The films conclude Poland. I was surprised. I always thought Russia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR_37f6hHTE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ2N6A6LyTA

[Queen B]

Dunno who, but he was a genius.

[JoeyGee8688]

Black Africans I'm sure.

[Jana]

Rakia > Vodka, because fruit > cereals...do you agree ?

PS interesting video :D

[Marusya]

Rakia > Vodka, because fruit > cereals...do you agree ?

PS interesting video :D

I can't agree because I've never tasted Rakia. :D I would love to, though, sounds interesting. Does it really taste different from Vodka?

[Prism]

Rakia > Vodka, because fruit > cereals...do you agree ?

PS interesting video :D

I certainly agree, Rakija/Rakia at least tastes of someting fruit while vodka tastes of pure alcohol.
I wrote about it here thouroughly : http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?155478-Slavic-as-fuck/page48&highlight=slavic+fuck

[ЛыSSый]

Actually vodka as technology was invented by arabic scientist about thousand years ago. after it this reseipt were travelled on whole europe from country to country.
And finally wodka as modern receipt were made in russia/poland together and in the same time (during rather long term of time). And from numerous unnamed engeneers and inventors of this technoligy i wonna to say now about Mendielieyew - except periodical system and smokeless gun powder in russia, he also invented main 40% and 56% standarts.

[Taiga Lake]

I don't know but i think beer was invented by Mesopotamians.

[Infinite]

Rakia > Vodka, because fruit > cereals...do you agree ?

PS interesting video :D

By rakia, do you mean this?

http://dogeya.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/iuuq_NV_00xxx_SL_tpicfujn_SL_dpn0gjmf0qjd0qipup031 220180Ubisjcbu_NK_sblj_NK_tpgsbtj_SL_kqh.jpg

[Jana]

I can't agree because I've never tasted Rakia. :D I would love to, though, sounds interesting. Does it really taste different from Vodka?

It has sweeter taste, you can try many different rakijas made of different fruits! BalkanPower explained well.

Our old would say it cure every diesease, if drank a little before bed! TRY IT

[Jana]

By rakia, do you mean this?

http://dogeya.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/iuuq_NV_00xxx_SL_tpicfujn_SL_dpn0gjmf0qjd0qipup031 220180Ubisjcbu_NK_sblj_NK_tpgsbtj_SL_kqh.jpg

I think it similar! It's your Turkish Raki. Her is rakija:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakia

BalkanPower, yes this is Balkan influence in Croatia. Lel. Wen't offtopic again, I apologize!

[Prism]

I think it similar! It's your Turkish Raki. Her is rakija:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakia

BalkanPower, yes this is Balkan influence in Croatia. Lel. Wen't offtopic again, I apologize!

Ah, I got you ;). Yeah well it has not been proven that rakija is actually Turkish. It has unknown origins actually. I think it was first made by Ottomans in the Balkans, and therefore it's native to the Balkans, this is my theory only though !

[Rugevit]

The competition over who was the first inventor of Vodka is to have exclusive right to brand Vodka. All parties are biased.

There is a book on History of Vodka written by Russian author V Pokhlebkin in 1970s published in 1992. The book was translated into several languages including English. It cost around $10-$15 on Amazon. : http://www.amazon.com/History-Vodka-Interverso-William-Pokhlebkin/dp/0860913597


The next major period in Pokhlebkin’s career begins in 1977, when Poland institutes a lawsuit, claiming that vodka was originally Polish, not Russian, and that the Russians should be required to pay a license fee for every bottle of vodka sold abroad. The Soviet Institute of History was called upon to produce a counterargument about the historical priority of Russian vodka. Although Pokhlebkin had been relieved of his duties in that institute and forced to seek work outside of the historical field for many years, he was summoned by the Institute of History and asked to write a history of vodka which would help the Soviet Union defend its case against Poland. This effort eventually resulted in Pokhlebkin’s book, A History of Vodka (История водки), which was written in the late 1970’s, but was only published in 1991, with translations into many languages, including English. Pokhlebkin was successful in his efforts and Russia was not forced to pay a duty to Poland for every bottle of export vodka. Many Russians consider this to be an important patriotic deed of Pokhlebkin, which saved many millions of dollars in potential export fees. On the other hand, there have been fierce debates about the historical merits of Pokhlebkin’s actual work on the chronological periods of vodka and distilling in Russia. In spite of certain critical articles in the press (both inside and outside Russia),
Pokhlebkin was internationally recognized for both his historical and culinary writings. In 986, he received the Urho Kekkonen Medal for his work on Finnish history and in 1993,
he received the Langhe Ceretto Prize for his culinary works, particularly his History of Vodka.

[Infinite]

Ah, I got you ;). Yeah well it has not been proven that rakija is actually Turkish. It has unknown origins actually. I think it was first made by Ottomans in the Balkans, and therefore it's native to the Balkans, this is my theory only though !

Who cares who invented it? Best drink for sure ;) Atleast better than vodka i think, i only vomit when drink vodka


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4pVvsHN0Pw

HAAJDE

Im going now, sorry :rolleyes:

[oh-nahhh]

It was a guy named Eddie.

[Prism]

It has sweeter taste, you can try many different rakijas made of different fruits! BalkanPower explained well.

Our old would say it cure every diesease, if drank a little before bed! TRY IT

I drink it when I study. leeeel.

[Marusya]

The competition over who was the first inventor of Vodka is to have exclusive right to brand Vodka. All parties are biased.

There is a book on History of Vodka written by Russian author V Pokhlebkin in 1970s published in 1992. The book was translated into several languages including English. It cost around $10-$15 on Amazon. : http://www.amazon.com/History-Vodka-Interverso-William-Pokhlebkin/dp/0860913597

His book is somewhat discredited in the documentary as for accuracy. :D

[Rugevit]

Last time I got drunk from drinking Vodka was during celebration after finishing semester exams. Getting really drunk spoiled our evening. I stopped drinking Vodka ever since. Occasionally, I'd drink a small shot during some occasions. I drink red wines and white wines in summers mostly.

[Rugevit]

His book is somewhat discredited in the documentary as for accuracy. :D

The author of the book was historian with interests in culinary traditions; he received a recognition for his book in a foreign country. It's not a perfect book, but there is no better literature on subject. This documentary is also biased. Of course, the author of the documentary would discredit it.

[Vorg]

Basically, I buy 5 liter canister of vodka for $ 10. Really. The last time I even did not feel bad.. :rolleyes:

http://www.kvarta-ural.ru/usr/foto/kanistrybankybutily/KP-10-1-480p.jpg

[Marusya]

Basically, I buy 5 liter canister of vodka for $ 10. Really. The last time I even did not feel bad.. :rolleyes:

http://www.kvarta-ural.ru/usr/foto/kanistrybankybutily/KP-10-1-480p.jpg

What is that canister of vodka distilled from? Rye?

[Marusya]

What is the etymology of the Ukrainian word "Horilka"? Gorzalka?

[EL_BARBARO]

бог?

[XvThomas_LysergicV]

The Russians are stereotyped as drinking a lot of vodka,so of course most people are going to think they invented it. I was one of those people. Before I clicked on this thread I thought the Russians invented vodka. I didn't know it was the Polish. I think vodka is ok but I like whisky more. The only brands of vodka I like are Svedka and Ciroc.

[Vorg]

What is that canister of vodka distilled from? Rye?

Usual licensed bottle of vodka (0.5 liters) costs about $ 10. But I believe that it is too expensive (5 years ago, a bottle of vodka costed only $ 5). So I buy canisters. But there is one thing. You never know, what is in the canister. May be 40% of the alcohol, may be 60%, 70%, may be even a technical alcohol, etc. There is a risk to life.

[Rugevit]

What is the etymology of the Ukrainian word "Horilka"? Gorzalka?

Traditionally , Vodka was made from rye. Nowadays it is made of wheat. Ukrainian Horilka is often made of white (sugar) beetroot. Horilka is related to burning. It can be translated as inflammable. :)

[Linebacker]

The bigger mystery is who invented Rakia.

Its the drink of choice in pretty much all of the Balkan and nobody really knows who made it first.

[Infinite]

The bigger mystery is who invented Rakia.

Its the drink of choice in pretty much all of the Balkan and nobody really knows who made it first.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kexc5uPUDSM

You can't understand most of it, but at least the word rakı. hE is the inventor xD

[Vorg]

The best for me - drink vodka after 2 litres of beer. After the "condition" (2 litres beer + 4-5 glasses of vodka), i can drink 15-20 glasses of vodka without any consequences - just permanent drunken state. :D

[ЛыSSый]

What is the etymology of the Ukrainian word "Horilka"? Gorzalka? "thing, which is burning"

[DarknessInside]

The Great Professor Balthazar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Balthazar)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Professor_Balthazar_and_his_machine.jpg

[ЛыSSый]

Ukrainian Horilka is often made of white (sugar) beetroot. from everything, from potatoe or damaged sweets. Beatroot selfmade wodka is famous by ugliest flavour and lightest hungover.

[Veneda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jph5KKECwc4

:laugh:

[Marusya]

The best for me - drink vodka after 2 litres of beer. After the "condition" (2 litres beer + 4-5 glasses of vodka), i can drink 15-20 glasses of vodka without any consequences - just permanent drunken state. :D

You crazy! :D How can you still be alive???

[vrahshipka]

Rakia > Vodka, because fruit > cereals...do you agree ?

Absolutely.

[Graham]

Wish I had taking a photo at the time. Was in a pub in Warsaw & it had vodka as the same price as water. ;)

[Veneda]

Wish I had taking a photo at the time. Was in a pub in Warsaw & it had vodka as the same price as water. ;)
Haha what was the name of this pub? Can you remember ;)

[Dandelion]

According to this source, Poland. Russia stole it afterward and took claim.

http://i.imgur.com/MEcSISM.png

[Graham]

Haha what was the name of this pub? Can you remember ;)

If I can remember I'll tell you, will check on google street. My brother & a pal were back in your city yesterday, for the football. See that is how much we enjoyed it.

[Vorg]

You crazy! :D How can you still be alive???

Absolutely fine. Sometimes the condition of nausea, but that's okay.

Week ago, 6:20 am, before the arrival of the police: :p

http://image.openlan.ru/images/11261346667836571141.jpg

[Rugevit]

Speaking of Vodka drinking, I recalled "Moscow-Petushki" published as Moscow to the End of the Line, Moscow Stations, and Moscow Circles which is a pseudo-autobiographical postmodernist prose poem by Russian writer and satirist Venedikt Yerofeyev. The story follows an alcoholic intellectual, Venya (or Venichka), as he travels by a suburban train on a 125 km (78 mi) journey from Moscow to visit his beautiful beloved and his child in Petushki, a town that is described by the narrator in almost utopian terms. Although the plot of the prose is related to alcohol drinking and a drunkard intellectual, the prose is a masterpiece of the Russian literature. I don't think it will be an easy read for foreigners. Older generation from former block countries may understand it better. I highly recommend it :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow-Petushki
http://www.amazon.com/Moscow-End-Line-Venedikt-Erofeev/dp/0810112000

[ЛыSSый]

definition: alcoholic is a human who doesn't wanna to drink wodka, but it must drink it anyway.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jph5KKECwc4

:laugh:

[Marusya]

Absolutely fine. Sometimes the condition of nausea, but that's okay.

Week ago, 6:20 am, before the arrival of the police: :p

http://image.openlan.ru/images/11261346667836571141.jpg

:lol00001: I am speechless, Vorg. I hope you did not get into too much trouble with the police!

[Veneda]

If I can remember I'll tell you, will check on google street. My brother & a pal were back in your city yesterday, for the football. See that is how much we enjoyed it.

Hope you will revisit Warsaw and have a great fun, not only watching football matches on the National Stadium :)

[Vorg]

Speaking of Vodka drinking, I recalled "Moscow-Petushki" published as Moscow to the End of the Line, Moscow Stations, and Moscow Circles which is a pseudo-autobiographical postmodernist prose poem by Russian writer and satirist Venedikt Yerofeyev. The story follows an alcoholic intellectual, Venya (or Venichka), as he travels by a suburban train on a 125 km (78 mi) journey from Moscow to visit his beautiful beloved and his child in Petushki, a town that is described by the narrator in almost utopian terms. Although the plot of the prose is related to alcohol drinking and a drunkard intellectual, the prose is a masterpiece of the Russian literature. I don't think it will be an easy read for foreigners. Older generation from former block countries may understand it better. I highly recommend it :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow-Petushki
http://www.amazon.com/Moscow-End-Line-Venedikt-Erofeev/dp/0810112000

By the way, typical Soviet intellectual - drinking, 40-year-old man who likes to sit in the kitchen and discuss the philosophy of Nietzsche, Kant, Guy Debord. :D

http://bg.ru/media/upload/images/uold/4c/f5/4cf51d96e8b608335a27d016c99b1353.jpg
http://bg.ru/media/upload/images/uold/f7/e9/f7e9e747c60fcfd431ebcc57fcd611ca.jpg

[ЛыSSый]

You crazy! :D How can you still be alive??? time by time in ambulance of our clinic is delivered humans with lethal prommiles (by oficcial data) of wodka in blood. But all they are more or less (faster less) able to speak, walk, drive car and figth in this condition.

[Graham]

It was this Veneda I found it, quite a strange looking place to drink in. :p

http://s3-media3.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/PqIyl7cp4c_NKYItzB9VRQ/348s.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-11Rpqr8bb48/UQKydR26TUI/AAAAAAAAR9s/32IkDT0hk4w/s1600/pijalnia2013.jpg

[Veneda]

definition: alcoholic is a human who doesn't wanna to drink wodka, but it must drink it anyway.

Fully agree. Jo, jo, jo :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YWSG9HmSKA&spfreload=10

[Stimpy]

Distilled alcohol might have been invented separately a few different times. Doesn't necessarily have to be one single origin.

[Marusya]

time by time in ambulance of our clinic is delivered humans with lethal prommiles (by oficcial data) of wodka in blood. But all they are more or less (faster less) able to speak, walk, drive car and figth in this condition.

I know the Poles and Ukrainians in my family and extended family have a high tolerance for vodka. I've never understood it and only watch their prodigious consumption in awesome wonder. :D Then, next day, they function perfectly fine.

[Vorg]

Morning after typical Russian party (lol)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQEv_LmG_NU

[Veneda]

It was this Veneda I found it, quite a strange looking place to drink in. :p

http://s3-media3.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/PqIyl7cp4c_NKYItzB9VRQ/348s.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-11Rpqr8bb48/UQKydR26TUI/AAAAAAAAR9s/32IkDT0hk4w/s1600/pijalnia2013.jpg

I think I recognize this place. It known for after-match meetings :D

http://s3-media2.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/7xPChk99oguvddkixC3Lug/ls.jpg

http://estevampelomundo.com.br/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Polska10.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/11305/z11305573Q.jpg

[Rugevit]

We've seen a canistre of vodka worth $10 from Vorg. Russians and Poles have better examples. Some Vodkas cost hundreds even thousands of dollars.


Known Polish vodka

Belvedere
Korolewska

Russian Vodka

Crystall
Beluga
Russian Standard

[Vorg]

We've seen a canistre of vodka worth $10 from Vorg. Russians and Poles have better examples. Some Vodkas cost hundreds even thousands of dollars.


Known Polish vodka

Belvedere
Korolewska

Russian Vodka

Crystall
Beluga
Russian Standard

Recently, at night, I went into a stall on the outskirts of the city and bought a 0,5 Pseudo-Finnish vodka for $ 4. It was something.

http://fontanka.fi/i/photos/2011/04/1024x768_nSu5AZ7N5MOyQ9oS7Xjd.jpg

[Rugevit]

It was something.



Do you mean a more suitable name for this vodka would be Finnish turpentine?

[Vorg]

Do you mean a more suitable name for this vodka would be Finnish turpentine?

I mean is that 50% of all alcoholic beverages in Russia - a fake and surrogate. Even in elite stores can sell a surrogate, presenting it as a high quality alcohol. The main thing - it stickers.

[Rugevit]

I mean is that 50% of all alcoholic beverages in Russia - a fake and surrogate. Even in elite stores can sell a surrogate, presenting it as a high quality alcohol. The main thing - it stickers.

Don't you have respectable retail stores that sell well known brands?

[Vorg]

Don't you have respectable retail stores that sell well known brands?

Not so much

[ЛыSSый]

I mean is that 50% of all alcoholic beverages in Russia - a fake and surrogate. Even in elite stores can sell a surrogate, presenting it as a high quality alcohol. The main thing - it stickers. but even in this situation exists some products with guaranteed quality, 70% or 90% medical spirt on 100 or 1000 ml bottles.

[Äijä]

Recently, at night, I went into a stall on the outskirts of the city and bought a 0,5 Pseudo-Finnish vodka for $ 4. It was something.

http://fontanka.fi/i/photos/2011/04/1024x768_nSu5AZ7N5MOyQ9oS7Xjd.jpg

This is what Finns drink, the same factory produced Molotov cocktails. :D


Koskenkorva Viina (also known simply as Koskenkorva, or Kossu) is the most common clear spirit drink (38%) in Finland, produced by Altia in the Koskenkorva distillery in Ilmajoki and bottled in Rajamäki.[1]
The grain (barley) alcohol is produced using 200-step continuous distillation designed to produce high-purity industrial ethanol. The drink is produced by diluting this alcohol with spring water and a very small amount of sugar. Although commonly called a vodka in English, in Finland it is not called a "vodka", but viina (see brännvin), although the word "vodka" is found in the label due to EU regulations.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Koskenkorva50cl.jpg/330px-Koskenkorva50cl.jpg

[Vorg]

In Russia is a common stereotype that all Finns - alcoholics. In the next house lives one Finn (he is married to a Russian woman). All the time, he have red face. One day, I said hello to him and joked that he must get out of the binge. He is very offended at me: "Eee, negaffarri tak! Zachyem ti tak rasgafarifaesh gruba!" (hard finnish accent) ("Do not say that! Why do you so talk to me")

[Äijä]

In Russia is a common stereotype that all Finns - alcoholics. In the next house lives one Finn (he is married to a Russian woman). All the time, he have red face. One day, I said hello to him and joked that he must get out of the binge. He is very offended at me: "Eee, negaffarri tak! Zachyem ti tak rasgafarifaesh gruba!" (hard finnish accent) ("Do not say that! Why do you so talk to me")

In Finland everybody thinks you are all alcoholics so we are even.

[Vorg]

In Finland everybody thinks you are all alcoholics so we are even.

Every people think bad about their neighbors

[Äijä]

Every people think bad about their neighbors

Yes, it could be worse considering the stereotypes about Swedes.