Classify LESM's colonial grandfather(the source of most of my non-european ancestry)

[SupaThug]

My mom's father,he is from countryside Alagoas,a state in Northeast Brazil,how much euro,SSA and amerindian...

http://oi58.tinypic.com/347a04g.jpg

Don't quote please!Thanks.

[pincopallino]

he looked pred. Euro. I dont see the Amerindian.

[pincopallino]

1/8 black

[Sikeliot]

Some African, but still predominantly European. He can pass as a light Cape Verdean.

I see no Amerindian.

[AverageKorhonen]

Not very mixed in my eyes. What I see is a man with thin lips, straight nose, chiseled face shape, straight hair, monobrow. Maybe he has SSA in his liver, brain, heart and whatnot but not in his face.

[SupaThug]

Not very mixed in my eyes. What I see is a man with thin lips, straight nose, chiseled face shape, straight hair, monobrow. Maybe he has SSA in his liver, brain, heart and whatnot but not in his face.

He was a blue colar worker from a very poor background,I doubt he cared about things like having a monobrow.

[Maguzanci]

he looks mostly euro but there seem to be something exotic about him.

[Antimage]

Not very mixed in my eyes. What I see is a man with thin lips, straight nose, chiseled face shape, straight hair, monobrow. Maybe he has SSA in his liver, brain, heart and whatnot but not in his face.

what makes u think straight hair is an indicator of anything? A lot of white people have naturally wavay or even curly hair. Also a lot of new world black and mixed race people straighten their frizzy afro hair

[SupaThug]

what makes u think straight hair is an indicator of anything? A lot of white people have naturally wavay or even curly hair. Also a lot of new world black and mixed race people straighten their frizzy afro hair

True,but trust me my grandfather would never straighten his hair hahahahaha.

[SupaThug]

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[ÁGUIA]

Mostly euro for sure, he probably have some ssa or amerindian but not that much visible!

[JBoscherville]

In my unexpert opinion I'd say mostly European, doesn't look really Afro, maybe like 1/8 Afro? Good lookin' guy, 10/10 Moustache!

[SupaThug]

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[SupaThug]

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[Maguzanci]

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tb, i think he is predominantly caucasoid with some non-euro influence. in my opinion think he can pass for puerto rican or dominican, but i don't know since i am not from latam. may i ask you some question on private message please?

[SupaThug]

tb, i think he is predominantly caucasoid with some non-euro influence. may i ask you some question on private message please?

Of course

[SupaThug]

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[SupaThug]

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[Sikeliot]

To me the African is obvious.

[SupaThug]

To me the African is obvious.

How would you classify him?

[Maguzanci]

How would you classify him?

i would classify him as atlantomed+ssa, i think. tbh, your grandfather is a pretty good looking attractive guy!! :) cool mustache! :P how old is he when this picture is taken?

[SupaThug]

i would classify him as atlantomed+ssa, i think. tbh, your grandfather is a pretty good looking attractive guy!! :) cool mustache! :P how old is he when this picture is taken?

Thanks.I don't know his age at this pic.It was took he was about to marry my grandmother.

[Aodhan]

it looks a lot like you, but he seems to have more SSA, I didn't see any in you in fact.

I would say he is 80% euro 5% NA and 15%SSa

It is not a very good picture but..
In the year that this photo has been taken probably the slavery had not been abolished I am right? He don't seem to be that mixed because in that year, only the rich families and man who had land could take a photo...

[SupaThug]

it looks a lot like you, but he seems to have more SSA, I didn't see any in you in fact.

I would say he is 80% euro 5% NA and 15%SSa

It is not a very good picture but..
In the year that this photo has been taken probably the slavery had not been abolished I am right? He don't seem to be that mixed because in that year, only the rich families and man who had land could take a photo...

Slavery was abolished in 1888,he was born after it.He didn't come from a wealhty family,quite the opposite acutally.

[Aodhan]

Slavery was abolished in 1888,he was born after it.He didn't to a wealhty family,quite the opposite acutally.

I was going to say that, even after that, it took some time for the former slaves to mix with the landlords, well, a picture at that time was not very cheap

[SupaThug]

I was going to say that, even after that, it took some time for the former slaves to mix with the landlords, well, a picture at that time was not very cheap

This pic is from the time he married my grandmother,it was not that expensive.

[SupaThug]

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[Maguzanci]

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hope is it not personal, but how old is your grandfather now?

[RMuller]

70% European,17% Amerindian,13% SSA.The only thing that he has of SSA is his hair.Your grandfathers SSA is over estimated because he is Brazilian. He can pass in Colombia,Venezuela,Puerto Rico.He has a Mexican mustache.He can pass for an exotic Mexican with frizzy hair.

[Carlito's Way]

I dont know where people see the SSA but I cant even see it, he looks ambiguous and can even pass in Mexico with no problem

[SupaThug]

70% European,17% Amerindian,13% SSA.The only thing that he has of SSA is his hair.Your grandfathers SSA is over estimated because he is Brazilian. He can pass in Colombia,Venezuela,Puerto Rico.He has a Mexican mustache.He can pass for an exotic Mexican with frizzy hair.

The pic is not very good,but his hair is straight.

[SupaThug]

hope is it not personal, but how old is your grandfather now?

73

[SupaThug]

One thing I am sure about my grandfather is that he was seem as white by my grandmother's family,considering that they were somewhat racist.

[SupaThug]

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[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

studid

[Cristiano viejo]

Not very mixed in my eyes. What I see is a man with thin lips, straight nose, chiseled face shape, straight hair, monobrow. Maybe he has SSA in his liver, brain, heart and whatnot but not in his face.

This

[SupaThug]

This

I know it will sound like an absurd question:But,considering that he is mostly portuguese,would he ever pass as a native Iberian?

[Armand_Duval]

He reminds me of a young John Leguizamo

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/52fc4485e4b06037b7247363/t/52fd64b0e4b09b324c7950fe/1392338097499/30.png

He' wouldnt stick out in any latin american country I had a hard time placing him as an iberian, I guess he's sort of a castizo, mayoritarly caucasid with some minor brazilid admixture.


Cheers.

[Cristiano viejo]

I know it will sound like an absurd question:But,considering that he is mostly portuguese,would he ever pass as a native Iberian?

It is a White and Black picture from 100 years ago, where usually people tended to look more or less so. A bit atypical but not too neither.

[Cristiano viejo]

He reminds me of a young John Leguizamo

Curiously I said that about his father.

[Armand_Duval]

Curiously I said that about his father.

Indeed, I think it is a distant brazilid in LESM's grand dad that's why he would have more or less the same admixture as Leguizamo's, which is gracile med with minor taino, tainos belong to the same subtype as brazilids.

However I migh be wrong, that's a very old b and w picture we have to take it into account.

I simply fail to see the SSA in OP's grand dad though.

[SupaThug]

Indeed, I think it is a distant brazilid in LESM's grand dad that's why he would have more or less the same admixture as Leguizamo's, which is gracile med with minor taino, tainos belong to the same subtype as brazilids.

However I migh be wrong, that's a very old b and w picture we have to take it into account.

I simply fail to see the SSA in OP's grand dad though.

True but this is my maternal grand-father and I think that he is not gracile med but Berid,his jaw looks very CM.

[Dylan]

Not very mixed in my eyes. What I see is a man with thin lips, straight nose, chiseled face shape, straight hair, monobrow. Maybe he has SSA in his liver, brain, heart and whatnot but not in his face.

funny as hell

[Armand_Duval]

True but this is my maternal grand-father and I think that he is not gracile med but Berid,his jaw looks very CM.

He looks reduced and his features are not that cromagnid influenced IMHO but gracile.

[SupaThug]

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[Smeagol]

Looks fully White. Only possible negroid influence i see in your grandfather is that he seems to have a low bridged nose.

[Sikeliot]

I simply fail to see the SSA in OP's grand dad though.

You didn't see it in my great-great grandmother either. Who likely had more.

[SupaThug]

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[cocofirefly]

I see the mulatto blood running through his veins. Looks like a quadroon with minor Amerindian admixture. Handsome man. Honestly, if more mulatto men looked like that they wouldn't be so meh to me.

[Mortimer]

i dont see the SSA he looks a little bit exotic for euro but could pass as levantine or mexican, i dont see clear SSA, he looks mostly white and the picture is black and white its possible that he looked even more white in real life since black and white pictures often darken the people

[SupaThug]

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[Maguzanci]

forget to tell you one thing: i think your grandpa might also pass as a north african as well like moroccan, tunisian or egyptian.

[Maguzanci]

forget to tell you one thing: i think your grandpa might also pass as a caucasoid north african as well like moroccan, tunisian or egyptian.

[SupaThug]

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[SupaThug]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQU9LRjXGmA

[SupaThug]

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[Deneb]

I think he is mostly white but he has an exotic vibe. I differ from previous opinions. Besides black, I see a pseudo south asian look, I think he has a minor amerindian input.

[SupaThug]

Bumping this again...

[Blake]

African descent.

[SupaThug]

Last bump!