Hitler was from the same genetic stock as Berbers ,Jews and also in Somalia

[tritonis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy9Ccab7H8w

[Shqipez]

No, He wasn't. He most likely belonged to some clade of Haplogroup E that is common in Europeans mostly. Different clades from Berbers and Somalis. Napoleon Bonaparte belonged to some E and the White Brothers to EV-13. and they were all white looking. It's like saying Irish are of same genetic stock as some R1b Africans. Haplogroup E is also not that uncommon in Austria.

There is also more to ancestry than just Y-DNA haplogroup. What we can say is that part of hitlers ancestors most likely migrated out of Africa 20,000-30,000 thousand years ago?

[tritonis]

Bad Boy hhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Bad Boy is right. By this logic Irish people belong to same genetic stock as Africans with R1b. It depends on the sub-clade a lot.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

So technically, he has African cousins...well it's not really a big deal. So do I and every other European or European descended person.

[tritonis]

Because of
different mtDNA

[tritonis]

The modern population of E-M215 and E-M35 lineages are almost identical, and therefore by definition age estimates based on these two populations are also identical. E1b1b (E-M215) and its dominant sub-clade E1b1b1 (E-M35)
A significant proportion of Jewish male lineages are M35. M35, which accounts for approximately 18% to 20% of Ashkenazi and 8.6% to 30% of Sephardi Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.

[Wadaad]

lol @ 'also in Somalia'...Somalis have the highest concentration of the clade Haplogroup e

It should be 'also Hitler'

http://www.thegeneticatlas.com/E1b1b1.png

[Era]

It's interesting how the rest of Africa doesn't have it just the coast.

[Wadaad]

It's interesting how the rest of Africa doesn't have it just the coast.

I guess they didnt like jungles

[Shqipez]

The modern population of E-M215 and E-M35 lineages are almost identical, and therefore by definition age estimates based on these two populations are also identical. E1b1b (E-M215) and its dominant sub-clade E1b1b1 (E-M35)
A significant proportion of Jewish male lineages are M35. M35, which accounts for approximately 18% to 20% of Ashkenazi and 8.6% to 30% of Sephardi Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.

Belonging to the same Haplogroup Y-DNA doesn't make one of same genetic stock. The clades of E in berbers is a different clade than European E so is the one in Somalis which is much older. Haplogroup E most likely originated in East Africa. the clades or sub clades or whatever you wanna call it, the ones of E's in Europe most likely originated in Europe. EV-13 most likely originated in Europe, it's low frequency found outside is most likely migrations from Europe which matches ancient greek settlements

But the arguement that he was of European Jewish ancestry because Euro Jews are high E and the same clade as Hitler and other europeans isn't just gonna cut it IMO. E is common in many Europeans, not just European Jews. Even some countries with historically low population of Jews have high E... Was napoleon bonaparte a jew? And not to mention Hitler was Austrian, and E is not uncommon there. Jews or not.

[Shqipez]

It's interesting how the rest of Africa doesn't have it just the coast.

It adds to my theory that it came to Europe through Sea people (Pelasgians)

[tritonis]

Belonging to the same Haplogroup Y-DNA doesn't make one of same genetic stock. The clades of E in berbers is a different clade than European E so is the one in Somalis which is much older. Haplogroup E most likely originated in East Africa. the clades or sub clades or whatever you wanna call it, the ones of E's in Europe most likely originated in Europe. EV-13 most likely originated in Europe, it's low frequency found outside is most likely migrations from Europe which matches ancient greek settlements

But the arguement that he was of European Jewish ancestry because Euro Jews are high E and the same clade as Hitler and other europeans isn't just gonna cut it IMO. E is common in many Europeans, not just European Jews. Even some countries with historically low population of Jews have high E... Was napoleon bonaparte a jew? And not to mention Hitler was Austrian, and E is not uncommon there. Jews or not.

http://store2.up-00.com/2015-06/1433206606172.png (http://www.up-00.com/)[/URL]

E1B1B have Eurasian origin

East African Somalis and Ethiopians are all carriers of an old subclade of E1B1B and they carry some European haplogroups.
Berbers from coastal North Africa are also heavy E1B1B e-m81 carriers(a newer subclade) and all their maternal haplogroups are European/Eurasian
And E1B1B v-13, heavy in the Balkans and in random parts of Europe, older than e-m81.

http://store2.up-00.com/2015-06/1433206606091.png (http://www.up-00.com/)

I put it to you, Berbers have a maternal connection to the Saamis [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1199377/ (http://www.up-00.com/), the indigenous people of parts of Northern Europe and the connection is fairly new, 9k years old, but there's one problem 9k years old is when the e-m81 supposedly split from East Africa, how did they get to Northern Europe?

What do you think?

[Linebacker]

He was not blue eyed.


I had looked into his famous eyes before this.... They are neither deep nor blue.
Hermann Rauschning - quote of his book "Hitler speaks",met personally with Hitler on a couple occasions.

[mikhail]

xD This smites at the very heart of Borrebism

[Shqipez]

He was not blue eyed.


Hermann Rauschning - quote of his book "Hitler speaks",met personally with Hitler on a couple occasions.

He still had light eyes. Blue or Green.

[Shqipez]

guess that story of his juden grandfather is true.

also negroid v-13 origin is in anatolia/asia, which makes Caucasian Albania a plausible option.

The origin of V-13 is just speculation after speculation. ''Brb, my name is Davai and I'm now gonna post some sentence from some shit that says Ev-13 is 4000 years old and originated in anatolia and present it as evidence'' xD . EV-13 might aswell of originated in the balkans seeing as it's highest peak is there... outside of Europe it is found in smaller amounts and matches actually Roman and ancient greek settlements. such as anatolia and north africa... and caucasus Albania was actually conquered by the Romans and the ancient Greeks(?). The Romans actually named it Albania.

V-13 barely exists in Caucasus from what I know though.

[Stimpy]

Y-DNA E is likely ''Caucasoid'' in origin according to the most recent information.
High numbers is parts of Africa, especially the horn is most likely the result of back-migration INTO Africa. The high number in horners is because they're pretty much an ancient mix of Caucasoid, MENAish people(paternal line) and SSA(maternal line).

[Shqipez]

Y-DNA E is likely ''Caucasoid'' in origin according to the most recent information.
High numbers is parts of Africa, especially the horn is most likely the result of back-migration INTO Africa. The high number in horners is because they're pretty much an ancient mix of Caucasoid, MENAish people(paternal line) and SSA(maternal line).

That's interesting. Can you post some source for more information? Obviously Europeans migrated from the Caucasus that doesn't make people belonging to different clades as ''caucasoid'' just because they belong to the same Y-DNA unless we are talking about the same clade or recent migration. it's like saying R1a people are Asians or R1b people. which obviously is bullshit. people just don't seem to understand clades or sub clades yet browse anthro forums and genetic forums :S but why is always E attacked with this type of bullshit

[Oneeye]

I was about to get excited over Hitler's specific yDNA being let out... Crossing my fingers that he's an E v12