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MsSPF
06-09-2015, 01:00 PM
Lebanese

http://www.google.fr/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/4/12/11/54/@/1130492-au-global-gift-gala-au-carlton-a-950x0-1.jpg&sa=X&ei=qeF2VYSLEIn2UP73gtgO&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNFjz-z_LaHOIMIMGP50GAaQQeijJA

http://www.google.fr/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.fiff.be/galerie/d/18138-2/ItW+Th_atre+3+006.JPG&sa=X&ei=wOF2Veu7H4LeU_3rgMAH&ved=0CAkQ8wc4FA&usg=AFQjCNHuw-UpZjRLTrVsor4mPOhz4jKdYg

http://www.google.fr/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.superiorpics.com/pictures2/SFF_Variety007403.jpg&sa=X&ei=8OF2VZW8NYnvUsTlgKgL&ved=0CAkQ8wc4FA&usg=AFQjCNGGKRo11V58ej1o3tGlWrA-TqanIQ

Jordanian/Palestinian

http://www.google.fr/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/G671030_b.jpg&sa=X&ei=t-J2VeCKCMusUaq4gKgF&ved=0CAkQ8wc4GA&usg=AFQjCNFKqwKPRw-dw44s3OUhUsRfxOc3xA

http://www.google.fr/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/25th+Film+Independent+Spirit+Awards+Arrivals+cBVn9 YnERb1l.jpg&sa=X&ei=MuJ2VfPpAYGhUoGzglg&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNFjtgE_OrlSSMc_flIItm7zbSUTBw

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Cherien+Dabis+Dubai+International+Film+Festival+RK QBsnecsMml.jpg

Palestinian

http://www.google.fr/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://medias.myfrenchfilmfestival.com/medias/142/252/64654/format_page/hiam-abbass.jpg&sa=X&ei=AON2VdWiHcXIyAPR94GAAw&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNE23sV_2LiVkFujjP2o4OgY3FrExg

http://www.google.fr/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://medias.myfrenchfilmfestival.com/medias/127/252/64639/format_page/hiam-abbass.jpg&sa=X&ei=HuN2Vcu8E-j_ywOh14GQAg&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNHpiNh-_vOiHU1Ki2DmoS9IAiMNmw

spanish catalan
06-09-2015, 01:19 PM
east med
east med + cm
east med + alpine

Green
06-09-2015, 02:36 PM
look spanish

MsSPF
06-09-2015, 02:39 PM
look spanish

all of them ?
For me they all have a very levantine look but yes I think they can pass in few Southern Euro countries but I'm not convinced for the first one who is strongly Eastmed influenced

Bagot
06-09-2015, 02:41 PM
all of them ?
For me they all have a very levantine look but yes I think they can pass in few Southern Euro countries but I'm not convinced for the first one who is strongly Eastmed influenced

They can pass anywhere in southern Europe, all of them.

MsSPF
06-09-2015, 02:42 PM
They can pass anywhere in southern Europe, all of them.

which countries ?
The last one can pass also in Maghreb (Morocco/Algeria/Tunisia) I already met several women with the same look

Bagot
06-09-2015, 02:44 PM
which countries ?
The last one can pass also in Maghreb (Morocco/Algeria/Tunisia) I already met several women with the same look

From Iberia to Greece/Turkey. In North Africa they can pass only as NAs without SSA.

jatt
06-09-2015, 02:47 PM
all of them east med.. I would have thought they were Spanish if I didn't knew where they were from.. Spanish in Canada look like that lebonese doest.. Palestinians are mixed bunch

MsSPF
06-09-2015, 02:47 PM
From Iberia to Greece/Turkey. In North Africa they can pass only as NAs without SSA.

In Maghreb, the two first ones I don't think because they are too Eastmed or they can as atypical . Not because they are not SSA but because of features. But if I have to suggest one country, I would say Tunisia.
The last one can easily (all Maghreb) and there is plenty of non SSA people in Maghreb (Northern especially)

Bagot
06-09-2015, 02:52 PM
In Maghreb, the two first ones I don't think because they are too Eastmed or they can as atypical . Not because they are not SSA but because of features. But if I have to suggest one country, I would say Tunisia.

They are clearly more Levantine than north African, but I agree that Tunisia could be a good fit as well. They have a Levantine look but they don't fit the Levantine stereotype.



and there is plenty of non SSA people in Maghreb.

I know.

Sikeliot
06-09-2015, 02:58 PM
Southern Spain, Sicily, Malta, Crete etc places like that. They do not look typically Greek or Italian though apart from the southernmost regions and islands, I get a strong Iberian or even NW African vibe.

Deneb
06-09-2015, 03:03 PM
All of them have a east med vibe to me. Her traits are not completely familiar in Spain, but I have a well entrained eye, because I'm Spaniard.

Sikeliot
06-09-2015, 03:17 PM
All of them have a east med vibe to me. Her traits are not completely familiar in Spain, but I have a well entrained eye, because I'm Spaniard.

Having been to southern Italy do you think they fit? I think they could without any difficulty but I actually see Spanish just as easily in them.

Deneb
06-09-2015, 03:19 PM
Having been to southern Italy do you think they fit? I think they could without any difficulty but I actually see Spanish just as easily in them.

Nope. They fit perfectly as lighter version af a middle east woman.

Sikeliot
06-09-2015, 03:22 PM
Nope. They fit perfectly as lighter version af a middle east woman.

So you don't think they pass as European. I disagree, to me they look perfectly so.

Deneb
06-09-2015, 03:24 PM
So you don't think they pass as European. I disagree, to me they look perfectly so.

By pigmentation they do, of course.

MsSPF
06-09-2015, 03:32 PM
Nope. They fit perfectly as lighter version af a middle east woman.

I tend to be agree with you, I'm not sure if they can pass in many Southern Euro countries. To me they look very Levantine by facial features although they don't look stereotypically Levantine which permit them to have a pan-med look.
I seriously doubt they can pass as Iberian, the last one has more chance but I'm not still convinced.
I don't think they can pass in Southern Italy, maybe in Sicily for the two first ones. Greece, I can't say because I don't know much about greek phenotypes but I think three of them eventually can.
Cyprus (for the three) and Malta (only for the last one) would be the best fit.
I think the last one has the most pan-med look of the three because she can pass also easily in Maghreb, better than the two others.

Sikeliot
06-09-2015, 03:38 PM
The last one gives me the Iberian vibe the most.

I don't think the first one could be Greek, based on my understanding of Greek phenotypes. The second possibly?

I thought all three could be southern Italian but especially the first.

Deneb
06-09-2015, 03:40 PM
I agree, the last one is who best fits as Spaniard. Almost berid. The first one is imo the less Spaniard, because her eyes, too exotic.

MsSPF
06-09-2015, 03:48 PM
I agree, the last one is who best fits as Spaniard. Almost berid. The first one is imo the less Spaniard, because her eyes, too exotic.

I was thinking the same ! Her eyes are typically Levantine and I think she's the least pan-med look of the three and has less chance to pass outside Levant.

spanish catalan
06-09-2015, 03:49 PM
second woman have cromagnid admixture and last woman is alpinized

Green
06-09-2015, 05:02 PM
all of them ?
For me they all have a very levantine look but yes I think they can pass in few Southern Euro countries but I'm not convinced for the first one who is strongly Eastmed influenced

If especially in Andalusia, Murcia and Valencia.

For example these Spanish

http://cuatrostatic-a.akamaihd.net/noticias-cuatro/en_directo/noticias-cuatro-14h/Noticias-Marta-Fernandez_MDSVID20131220_0076_17.jpg

http://www.aupadeportivo.com/media/galeria/36/4/8/9/6/n_deportivo_de_la_coruna_varios-426984.jpg