The Tydal type

[Pallantides]

from SNPA:

A very tall, heavily pigmented Cro-Magnoid, aboriginal to the central Scandinavian regions. The Tydal type is robust, short-legged and long-armed, and very dolichocephalic (C.I. 73). The face is moderately broad to broad, the chin is prominent, the forehead is low and rather steep, the browridges are strong and the nose is typically short, snubbed and rather wide. The hair is blackisk brown and the eyes rather dark, and beard growth is strong. The type was first observed in the Norwegian parish of Tydal in Trøndelag, and its presence was later documented in adjacent Swedish regions. In all likeliness this unique population has lived in isolation for millennia, but nowadays the type is dispersed all around the Scandinavian Peninsula as a result of increased mobility and city-ward migration, and is nowhere found in any significant concentration. The Tydal type is generally regarded as a Paleo-Atlantid variety.
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/index2.htm


http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu253/Tyranos/scandinavia-7.jpghttp://img225.echo.cx/img225/5134/dalarna411yi.jpghttp://img225.echo.cx/img225/4410/dalarna426vv.jpghttp://img268.echo.cx/img268/9138/dalarna430tt.jpghttp://img268.echo.cx/img268/7554/dalarna442vw.jpg
http://img225.echo.cx/img225/3909/dalarna478pd.jpghttp://img225.echo.cx/img225/3770/dalarna484qi.jpg
http://img268.echo.cx/img268/8627/dalarna456hb.jpghttp://img268.echo.cx/img268/3756/dalarna469nt.jpg
http://img199.echo.cx/img199/5180/tydals7gv.jpghttp://img199.echo.cx/img199/2592/tydals29kw.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/690/tydalstyp5pv.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8881/scandinavianfromtydal26ud.jpg
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5516/scandinavianfromtydal0vm.jpg


Modern examples from Sør Trøndelag:

Jostein Tetlie
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/426/josteintetlie.jpg

Martin Solem
http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/8269/martinsolem.jpg

Kim-Andre Brantzæg
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7122/kimandrebrandtzaeg.jpg

[Pallantides]

Woman from Nesset in Møre og Romsdal:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Nesset/nesset49.jpg

Man from Lindesnes in Aust-Agder:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lindesnes/lindesnes22.jpg

[Erik]

Please who can tell me what kind of haplogroup is most numerous in the area where Tydaltype is found? Where did they live during the Ice Age? Maybe in southwest France? It is not possible that they are a mixture of nordics with Sami men?

[Pallantides]

Y-DNA haplogroup I1 is the most numerous in Central Scandinavia followed by R1a and R1b.

[Harcos]

Is this type common in Finland? The second one from the top looks identical to my north Karelian grandfather.

[Äike]

Is this type common in Finland? The second one from the top looks identical to my north Karelian grandfather.

No, they are only found in Scandinavia and they aren't that common even there.

[Mordid]

Here a picture of my friend. He seem a quite good example of Paleo-Atlantid (tydal)
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac236/david100_photo/24010_10150122660395591_678725590_1.jpg
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac236/david100_photo/6290_244494200590_678725590_8155466.jpg

[Pallantides]

No, they are only found in Scandinavia and they aren't that common even there.

They are the aboriginal Scandinavians along with the Strandid type.

Strandid
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/gl-strandid.jpg

Reduced, infantilized, heavily pigmented (brown-eyed, nearly black-haired, and somewhat "swarthy") brachycephals (C.I. 83) of the western Norwegian coast (especially the northwestern provinces, with a focal point in Sunnmøre). Strandids are typically rather euryprosopic, with mesorrhine, concave noses. Judging from their general bodily attributes, they are undoubtedly the products of alpinization (probably local), but the exact derivation of the type is obscured by the lack of relevant skeletal material. Strandid individuals are not numerous, and are usually mixed with the local Borreby, whence it has been suggested that the Strandid is merely a more completely alpinized variety or end-type of this taller, more robust brachycephal. However, this theory raises the question of pigmentation, as Borrebys are rather depigmented on average. An alternate hypothesis involves the alpinization of a Tydal population. The Strandid type may have ties to the western Norwegian Fosna Culture (ca. 8000 BC - 5000 BC).

[Harcos]

No, they are only found in Scandinavia and they aren't that common even there.

Nontheless, the man in that picture looks exactly like my grandfather. How? I don't know. Perhaps my grandfather is West Baltid, so they might look similiar seeing as both are largely Cro-Magnid. Sadly I don't have his picture on my computer.

[Erik]

The haplogroup I is very numerous in south Scandinavia and north Germany and related
with the Germanic tribes. It is a strange thing why these Tydal men do not have
blue eyes and fair hair. Why can explain it me?

[Pallantides]

The haplogroup I is very numerous in south Scandinavia and north Germany and related
with the Germanic tribes. It is a strange thing why these Tydal men do not have
blue eyes and fair hair. Why can explain it me?

Haplogroups don't have any direct connection with hair and eye color and also ethnic groups to some extent. Some 40% of all Norwegian Sámi also belong to Y-DNA haplogroup I1 and they are not Norse or Germanic.

[Erik]

The haplogroup I is very related to the ancient Germanic tribes. Is the Typal type
a kind Alpine type? In southeast Friesland-Zuidwest Drenthe (Netherlands) there
is a small minority dark haired people (also brachyicephal). Romans nor Spanishs did
not enter those areas. Maybe these dark haired people in southeast Friesland (Woudjers)
have to to with the Tydal type? Are the Tydal type descendants of the ancient
rendeer hunters?

[Pallantides]

The haplogroup I is very related to the ancient Germanic tribes. Is the Typal type
a kind Alpine type? In southeast Friesland-Zuidwest Drenthe (Netherlands) there
is a small minority dark haired people (also brachyicephal). Romans nor Spanishs did
not enter those areas.

No Tydal are not Alpine, the Tydal's are often tall and dolichocephalic.


the Strandid is the Scandinavian alpinoid variant:
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/gl-strandid.jpg

Reduced, infantilized, heavily pigmented (brown-eyed, nearly black-haired, and somewhat "swarthy") brachycephals (C.I. 83) of the western Norwegian coast (especially the northwestern provinces, with a focal point in Sunnmøre). Strandids are typically rather euryprosopic, with mesorrhine, concave noses. Judging from their general bodily attributes, they are undoubtedly the products of alpinization (probably local), but the exact derivation of the type is obscured by the lack of relevant skeletal material. Strandid individuals are not numerous, and are usually mixed with the local Borreby, whence it has been suggested that the Strandid is merely a more completely alpinized variety or end-type of this taller, more robust brachycephal. However, this theory raises the question of pigmentation, as Borrebys are rather depigmented on average. An alternate hypothesis involves the alpinization of a Tydal population. The Strandid type may have ties to the western Norwegian Fosna Culture (ca. 8000 BC - 5000 BC).

[Agrippa]

Yet I think it is possible that Alpinisation worked on Palaeatlantid/Tydal strains which became over time mostly Alpinised among the more sedentary people. But obviously an Alpinised individual is Alpinoid and no longer Cromagnoid, what the Palaeatlantids are by definition, with traits like their meso-dolichocephaly...

[Pallantides]

I think Michael Kleppe Jamtfall is a good example of the Tydal type.
http://fotball.rbnett.no/multimedia/archive/00011/Michael_Kleppe_Jamtf_11775a.jpghttp://www.rbkweb.no/images/mkjamtfall.jpghttp://www.byavisa.no/artbilder/midi_1720_W3S8N4
http://www.rbk.no/multimedia/archive/00090/Michael_Jamtfall_90176a.jpg
He was born in Trondheim, Sør Trøndelag and is about 1.83 m (6 ft 0 in) tall.


His father Jørn Jamtfall also seem to be rather Tydal inspired:
http://www.monssen.no/rosenborg/media/2005/h103_l.jpg
http://www.monssen.no/rosenborg/media/2004/h103_l.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2372/2434331528_98f5bf5768.jpg
http://fotball.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00057/jamtfall_57434a.jpg

[CelticViking]

Atle Pettersen
http://gfx.nrk.no/cQg0RwlWbEtvWE1lrmjBewx943Uv1g1tU16xHi-lcv0Q.jpg

[Osprey]

what is a tydal?

[Pallantides]

From Valdres
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4631/vf000003.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9734/vf000019.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4144/vf000063.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4395/vf000110.jpg
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3808/vf000112.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6968/vf000133.jpg

From Kristiania(Oslo)
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/The%20Borgen%20Collection/borgen89.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/The%20Borgen%20Collection/borgen40.jpg

[Pallantides]

http://i.imgur.com/FkITq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nbWLO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CmNij.jpg

Tydal/Strandid intermediate:
http://i.imgur.com/Dvstv.jpg

[Hàkon]

I'd like to ask for some more examples.

[Pallantides]

http://i.imgur.com/M1YKG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aOgBy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YJvS2.jpg(maybe some Strandid influence)

[Oski Von Skadi]

http://i.imgur.com/aOgBy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YJvS2.jpg(maybe some Strandid influence)

RAWR! :clap

Its amazing that allot of lefty Norwegians claim that they aren't diverse enough without immigration. From what I know, Norwegians can look and talk to each other and reckon what place in norway each person comes from.

[Pallantides]

Merethe Baustad Ranum - Norwegian politician from Trondheim
http://i.imgur.com/OXQ57.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PYa2K.jpg

Ine Marie Eriksen Søreide - Norwegian politician from Lørenskog
http://i.imgur.com/voZiw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NCR30.jpg

Rita Engedalen - Norwegian blues musician from Kongsberg
http://i.imgur.com/CAKgz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/61cHo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Q1hMi.jpg

[Rødskjegg]

Hváll (Jarle Kvåle) from the bands Windir and Vreid.

Gentleman on the right:
http://hulen.no/files/Image/vreid.jpg

Here with short hair:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/photo/12624729.cms

[Oski Von Skadi]

Do you think Jan Axel "Hellhammer" Blomberg (born August 2, 1969, in Trysil, Norway) fits the Tydal type?

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/CHALTH/Hellhammer-12400.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/carnage_crucifixion/Musik/hellhammer_jan_axel_blomberg.jpg

[Pallantides]

Do you think Jan Axel "Hellhammer" Blomberg (born August 2, 1969, in Trysil, Norway) fits the Tydal type?

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/CHALTH/Hellhammer-12400.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/carnage_crucifixion/Musik/hellhammer_jan_axel_blomberg.jpg


He could be, but some claim he is part Moroccan(though this internet rumour have never been verified or denied it seems), to me he look darker and a bit more exotic than regular Tydal types, maybe he'd fit as a Tydal/Med.

[Pallantides]

J. E. Åsli
http://i.imgur.com/Y3wTVYl.jpg

[Pallantides]

Ronja Rövardotter
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http://i.imgur.com/2iTfvyh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WofPzh0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6vpRPX8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iC1Bnjx.jpg

[Pallantides]

http://i.imgur.com/5mu6RCl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/oQY36io.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3polLBo.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/G0XiuPX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IFqPzP7.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/BApKkfN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7iGgILU.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/948DVJA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/J7yRNsZ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/RIp2Zoi.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/DPC08NR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rfZA9BF.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/gAobc1N.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3Djt5Tp.jpg

[Cern]

Interesting thread.

Tydal(paleo-atlantid), original(unchanged) cro-magnon from the upper Palaeolithic?

[Robert22]

Intrsting, does anyone have more samples ?

[Altberg616]

I believe Peter Steele of Type O Negative fit this type.

[Peikko]

Ville Leino:
http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/nhl/20092010/938992.jpghttp://kuvapankki.jatkoaika.com/g2/d/28474-2/Leino_Ville_07_01_Jokerit.jpg

[fenix978]

What would be similarities and what would be differences between Tydal on one, and Dalo-Falid and Brunn on other side?

[Peikko]

What would be similarities and what would be differences between Tydal on one, and Dalo-Falid and Brunn on other side?
I think they are different types all together.

[Peikko]

I also realized, that Ville Leino isn't Tydal at all. Teppo Numminen would be more correct:
http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0069/6900/teppo_crop_340x234.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmHFrKnLHNxDVWKDo22YGiaslWEIiYj DvU1dvStLvJH9vPyFdC

[JeanBaMac]

"The haplogroup I is very numerous in south Scandinavia and north Germany and related with the Germanic tribes. It is a strange thing why these Tydal men do not have blue eyes and fair hair. Why can explain it me? " => because it's a local CroMagnid/Atlantid combination, which was probably common in Scandinavia before the arrival of the Germanic tribes, and similar to the Palaeo-Atlantids of the British Isles.

[1stLightHorse]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0Rgk0_Zbpr4/TFR_CQS-hNI/AAAAAAAAASs/Khp3161aHFY/s400/Peter%2BSteele%2B42.jpghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhf6yrWA721qccw0mo1_500.jpg

Adrian Erlandsson also may fit this type:

http://eu.audio-technica.com/en/endorsers/images/endorsers/Adrian_Erlandsson_large.jpghttp://www.paradiselost.pl/PL/profile/adrian_erlandsson_03.jpg

[JeanBaMac]

I think Dominic Purcell (of Norwegian ancestry) is a good example of Tydal type.
https://www.google.fr/search?q=dominic+purcell&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6fSAU9HlOM7M0AXBpYGoCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1525&bih=708&dpr=0.9

[Peikko]

I think Dominic Purcell (of Norwegian ancestry) is a good example of Tydal type.
https://www.google.fr/search?q=dominic+purcell&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6fSAU9HlOM7M0AXBpYGoCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1525&bih=708&dpr=0.9
Not really.

[Ironguard]

Do you think my Grandfather might be this type?47788

[armenianbodyhair]

Do you think my Grandfather might be this type?47788

Possibly do you have an pictures of him when he was younger

[Ironguard]

Possibly do you have an pictures of him when he was younger

Not atm but I'll try to get a hold of some. He is half Swedish so I think it would make sense if he is.

[slmmr4th]

Jørgen Langhelle, Norwegian actor
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/191/191897/19189760/jpg/active/729x.jpg
http://www.seher.no/imgfly/942/714/styles/article_half_width_imgfly/public/images/as/67/2456367.jpg?itok=v4WuasrT
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SfCu1PVowyo/Ta3yfqPlrbI/AAAAAAAAB0U/LHZAS_i_6B4/s1600/IMG_6494.jpg

[Grab the Gauge]

There are two major competing brands of laundry detergent in the United States of America: Tide® and All®. When heterosexual partners combine the two in a murky purplish elixir and drink them for several years, the defective children they give birth are known as Tydal®.

[Enflamme]

There are two major competing brands of laundry detergent in the United States of America: Tide® and All®. When heterosexual partners combine the two in a murky purplish elixir and drink them for several years, the defective children they give birth are known as Tydal®.

Hello. Classify this Sicilian + he can pass in North Africa?

[meiliren]

Alpines.

[Laag]

Yes, Tydal = Paleo-Atlantid.

Lundman:
In certain outlying parts of Scandinavia and Ireland, a primitive race - the Palaeo-Atlantid-still lives in small remnants (See Map 18). The Palaeo-Atlantid race is darker than the Nordid race - especially as regards to hair color. It is also coarser than the Faelish subrace, with stronger brow ridges, and a broader, plumper nose. With respect to the ABQ-blood group system, the Palaeo- Atlantid race is high in blood type gene r and low in blood type genes p and q. In the north, this race is named the Tydals race, after a village in central Norway.

The word "Atlantid" in the name of type has zero connection with forum's "Atlantid" which is forum invention and is simple Med. Lundman used the name Paleo-Atlantid as in opposition to his North-Atlantid which he grouped with Nordid race while Paleo-Atlantid he placed in Western European Paleolithic category.

Lundman's Paleo-Atlantid and North-Atlantid has nothing to do with forum's "Atlantid". Lundman invented its terms in the mid 20th century while forum's "Atlantid" is modern invention, they have zero in common except the word "Atlantid" in the names of types.

Below are real Tydals/Paleo-Atlantids from Lundman. In Coon's scheme Tydal/Paleo-Atlantid is somewhat between East Baltic, Alpine and Borreby and nothing Med about it.

https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/images/typologia/berti/tydalen1.jpg
https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/images/typologia/berti/tydal-nordid.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xk0A0mG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KRH7CsH.png
https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/images/typologia/berti/tydalid.jpg

And here are fake forum's "Paleo-Atlantid". In real world simple Meds.

https://s18.postimg.cc/fs566eijt/FB_IMG_1523984300815.jpg
https://kinoafisha.ua/upload/2013/03/persons/3307/fotos/1362401755mishel-bort.jpg
https://daily-voice-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/c_limit,e_sharpen,f_auto,q_auto:eco,w_640/Screen_Shot_2019-03-16_at_12.24.31_PM_w7jwyg.jpg

[Golden Lining]

Yes, Tydal = Paleo-Atlantid.

I am surprised anyone has ever doubted that? Well, okay, not surprised, actually.



The word "Atlantid" in the name of type has zero connection with forum's "Atlantid" which is forum invention and is simple Med. Lundman used the name Paleo-Atlantid as in opposition to his North-Atlantid which he grouped with Nordid race while Paleo-Atlantid he placed in Western European Paleolithic category.

Lundman's Paleo-Atlantid and North-Atlantid has nothing to do with forum's "Atlantid". Lundman invented its terms in the mid 20th century while forum's "Atlantid" is modern invention, they have zero in common except the word "Atlantid" in the names of types.


Well, I think IIRC (don't nail me down on that) Lundman suspected that Nordics, West-Alpinids and West Mediterranids evolved out of low-skulled Western European "Paleo-Atlantids" (or at least, something similar), as the name says, its basically supposed to be a "remnant race" that you can encounter in isolated, more infertile areas (there they were "pushed" to by the more "modern" races and so they didn't take part in the "depigmentation" of the other parts of NW Europe) that hadn't been touched by modernity until a few decades ago (so regions in Scandinavia, Eastern parts of Britain...). This stuff about blood groups Lundman did was a "cute" way to integrate population genetics into typology (so, basically considering evolution and the "modern synthesis of biology", likewise late Coon tried this), but since all you had was data on (mostly) meaningless stuff like blood groups it wasn't very convinincing and insightful.

Actually, v.Eickstedt used the term "Atlantid" as a subrace of the Mediterranid race, mostly associated with Celtic areas:

https://i.ibb.co/NtVC7Kt/Unbenannt.png (https://ibb.co/pb0wndb)

Other authors like Biasutti, Scheidt and even Lundman (who considered "admixture" as a possible factor, again) considered them to be the dark-haired Nordics and for some reason Lundman renamed them "North-Atlantid" in his scheme, while using "Atlantid" as a large umbrella term for all low-skulled Europid subraces (confusing, I know).





Below are real Tydals/Paleo-Atlantids from Lundman. In Coon's scheme Tydal/Paleo-Atlantid is somewhat between East Baltic, Alpine and Borreby and nothing Med about it.


Yeah, some of them seem to have Nordic or whatever admixture, but notice the upturned-short noses and weak chins in the side profile, pretty much the opposite of the "pretty" chads and girls people are posting here. They remind me in some way of the Sudetian race of Günther, but probably taller and more robust.


And here are fake forum's "Paleo-Atlantid". In real world simple Meds.



Very hilarious.

[PaleoEuropean]

Do you think my Grandfather might be this type?[/ATTACH]

Could be, hard to tell with young or old people.

[PaleoEuropean]

I am surprised anyone has ever doubted that? Well, okay, not surprised, actually.



Well, I think IIRC (don't nail me down on that) Lundman suspected that Nordics, West-Alpinids and West Mediterranids evolved out of low-skulled Western European "Paleo-Atlantids" (or at least, something similar), as the name says, its basically supposed to be a "remnant race" that you can encounter in isolated, more infertile areas (there they were "pushed" to by the more "modern" races and so they didn't take part in the "depigmentation" of the other parts of NW Europe) that hadn't been touched by modernity until a few decades ago (so regions in Scandinavia, Eastern parts of Britain...). This stuff about blood groups Lundman did was a "cute" way to integrate population genetics into typology (so, basically considering evolution and the "modern synthesis of biology", likewise late Coon tried this), but since all you had was data on (mostly) meaningless stuff like blood groups it wasn't very convinincing and insightful.

Actually, v.Eickstedt used the term "Atlantid" as a subrace of the Mediterranid race, mostly associated with Celtic areas:

https://i.ibb.co/NtVC7Kt/Unbenannt.png (https://ibb.co/pb0wndb)

Other authors like Biasutti, Scheidt and even Lundman (who considered "admixture" as a possible factor, again) considered them to be the dark-haired Nordics and for some reason Lundman renamed them "North-Atlantid" in his scheme, while using "Atlantid" as a large umbrella term for all low-skulled Europid subraces (confusing, I know).





Yeah, some of them seem to have Nordic or whatever admixture, but notice the upturned-short noses and weak chins in the side profile, pretty much the opposite of the "pretty" chads and girls people are posting here. They remind me in some way of the Sudetian race of Günther, but probably taller and more robust.


Very hilarious.

Tydal is the Scandinavian variant and PE Atlantid is the North Atlantic/Baltic/Central Variant. Just like Borreby is the Central/Scandinavian variant of the British Brunn. There is also overlap and spread through migration, other regional variants that aren't distinct enough to classify as a true variant etc. Coon never said anything was 100% true or untrue and all physical anthropologists have opinions, taking ones over the other doesn't make it true or untrue. Like everything in science the truth is in the grey area.

[Laag]

https://i.ibb.co/NtVC7Kt/Unbenannt.png (https://ibb.co/pb0wndb)



I knew that v.Eickstedt used the term "Atlantid" but I've never seen any examples from him.

And here forum's "Atlantid". Look like nothing original.


https://abload.de/img/fireshotcapture410-delvj75.png
https://m.netinfo.bg/media/images/35722/35722260/960-600-bgfutbol.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JRPCkxeng9w/XAf1A8_849I/AAAAAAAAyF0/wp2HftRrUbAtWCpp4WjMRbVVp6oEsuzJgCLcBGAs/s1600/%25D0%25B1%25D0%25B9-2.jpg
https://abload.de/img/fireshotcapture1114-25cjvp.png
https://abload.de/img/37809639_292898177936t0k1l.jpg
https://abload.de/img/42515680_3056765567026nk4x.jpg

[The Blade]

I knew that v.Eickstedt used the term "Atlantid" but I've never seen any examples from him.

And here forum's "Atlantid". Look like nothing original.


https://abload.de/img/fireshotcapture410-delvj75.png
https://m.netinfo.bg/media/images/35722/35722260/960-600-bgfutbol.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JRPCkxeng9w/XAf1A8_849I/AAAAAAAAyF0/wp2HftRrUbAtWCpp4WjMRbVVp6oEsuzJgCLcBGAs/s1600/%25D0%25B1%25D0%25B9-2.jpg
https://abload.de/img/fireshotcapture1114-25cjvp.png
https://abload.de/img/37809639_292898177936t0k1l.jpg
https://abload.de/img/42515680_3056765567026nk4x.jpg

We all know this example by von Eickstedt. He posted him from his previous account (Silver Lining).
It's slightly coarser (seems Brunn admixed if we go by Coon's terminology you like) but still has both Mediterranean & Nordic qualities - just like an Atlantid is supposed to do.

[Oneeye]

You can paleo my atlantid

[Nurzat]

can I anything NW Euro pretty pls

[PaleoEuropean]

can I anything NW Euro pretty pls

You are 100% Faelid and as Romanian your flag looks like the Belgian flag so that makes you the purest Dutchman here.

[Ülev]

You are 100% Faelid and as Romanian your flag looks like the Belgian flag so that makes you the purest Dutchman here.
real Chad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad
the flag I mean

[Nurzat]

You are 100% Faelid and as Romanian your flag looks like the Belgian flag so that makes you the purest Dutchman here.


real Chad

aww boys thank u :cool: :rockon: : penisdance:


this very NW Euro bonus song for you (Icelanders):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZNvj-HfBU

[Golden Lining]

We all know this example by von Eickstedt. He posted him from his previous account (Silver Lining).
It's slightly coarser (seems Brunn admixed if we go by Coon's terminology you like) but still has both Mediterranean & Nordic qualities - just like an Atlantid is supposed to do.

Now you are starting to get it.

=> Lundman's North Atlantid = Eickstedt's Atlantid = Biasutti's Irish Nordic subtype = Hooton's Keltic = (roughly, because Coon's Brunn race was some kind of blunder on his part) Coon's Brunn/Atlanto-Med.

v. Eickstedt's Med types:
- Gracile Med (mostly Iberia, Mediterranean Islands, Southern Italy)
- Eurafrikanid (coarser, more "Mesolithic"-vibes, here and there around the Mediterranean Sea)
- Saharid/Transmediterranid (between the two mentioned, mostly North Africa)
- Berberid (Cromagnon-like, here and there in North Africa and quite prominent on the Canary Islands, but also seen in other areas like Corsica)
- Atlantid (Nordic-like, but with true dark hair, less refined facial features than true "Teuto"-Nordics, poorer areas of North-Western Europe, usually associated with Celtic areas)

But he even stated that all of this is just a rough sketch and Med types had not been researched that well, at that point, so he didn't spend much time on them. He was more an expert on India and East Asia.

[chociprasa]

Fredrik Skavlan:
https://nojeslivet.newsner.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/09/SVT-SKAVLAN-2020-E01-aa6c_607x405.jpg
https://images.hdsydsvenskan.se/980x588/IYkqHjSJeqeYD2sSkadxu7AvkXw.jpg
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB17mK4i.img?h=552&w=750&m=6&q=60&u=t&o=f&l=f&x=351&y=210

[Roy]

I think this type is very rare.