How is it possible to have the Haplogroup H1 and Haplogroup R1b1b2a1a?

[Green]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iy0TM4eX6xJGY9hjAHYOidN9kDjfNlhDBpX35VLLU_g=w1618-h911-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dYCuox5__RdFArr75cpuPsRTTkVcovGb_E7eTVZmTak=w1620-h911-no


If then the Gedmacht gives me these results.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6vsilcwC_VliNydes3kKG1PnpGI-pnHwF0yE6Ujz4M0=w1620-h911-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bvRpJWhKUJImj2XADT620ygMaPbe7QF5sMW6lCi_gTM=w1620-h911-no

[Oneeye]

They're both very common in western Europe. What are you asking?

[Green]

They're both very common in western Europe. What are you asking?

because according to the Gedmacht that I am not European, I should have other Haplogroup. It is a contradiction.

[Petalpusher]

because according to the Gedmacht that I am not European, I should have other Haplogroup. It is a contradiction.

You are very European, West med is, it's not something out of this world it may even be more indigenous than anything else if you go far back enough in times. Just take a look at these Sardinian women's threads where the west med is to the roof. They look super European even considering they have also some east med thrown into the mix, if they only had +50% west med they would look even more Euro if that is possible.

Regardless, your haplogroup doesn't mean much, it's interesting but only a starting point in your paternal/maternal lineage. You can be E1b and comes out very North/Euro, or L1 and plot in the middle east, it will be more and more common with increased migrations.

[Gaston]

Your combo is very common, if not THE most common in Western Europe. Your R1b is of bronze age arrival from the Eurasian steppes and your mtdna is for now thought as being neolithic (could be older).


As for gedmatch, you're a little confused. You are clearly native to your region (Iberia) in the modern sense. But gedmatch shows deeper ancestry, and indeed, the majority of your ancestry does not come from mesolithic Europe but from Early European Farmers from (ultimately) the fertile crescent and also the Eurasian steppes.

[Nurzat]

haplogroups say nothing of your actual ancestry, which is the autosomal result you get. as all Southerners, you are mostly of Neolithic (Near Eastern) extraction, with some Old European (Mesolithic / Upper Palaeolithic) involved too (in minority). and your haplogroups are some of the most common in your area.

I mean: if you had I1 as paternal haplogroup, you were still Iberian, although its origin is Viking, and the same if you were H1 on paternal side, which is Gypsy/Indian. so you should only look at the autosomal composition, that is your recent, true and relevant ancestry

[Drawing-slim]

Comgrats. Good results.

[Green]

Comgrats. Good results.

They are not good. Pretty bad. I am not European.

2.51% arab

3.08% north african

4.74% East med

Oceanian 0.47%

0.20% Volga-Ural

I am a mixture of Arab, Jewish and North African, who disappointment.

[Neon Knight]

Show us what you get for the Eurogenes K13 test.

[Green]

Show us what you get for the Eurogenes K13 test.

Worst result.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/AcZsa_czf4fz7zO90C5jy3pFXlcpoUOuGR5AcDk9PKo=w1620-h911-no

[Neon Knight]

It looks fairly normal for a southern Euro. How does your K13 Oracle (the top one) come out?

[Petalpusher]

You have less east-med than a South Tyrolese. Chill.

[Green]

It looks fairly normal for a southern Euro. How does your K13 Oracle (the top one) come out?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5hlNyYRA7itqtPwqsF1ngUmkziO3aKCh9mIlvKyJuK8=w1620-h911-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7LpIzdVGFmjlYmvloNB20TbJ6YZ95l8bESmwAVoBPok=w1620-h911-no

[Era]

Your results are fine and perfectly normal for a Spanish. Those North African etc numbers just show the similarity you have with your neighbors however slight it is. That's adjustment to the climate other than actual origin in my opinion ( I keep repeating this), because of the sun hours Spain has are similar to their closest African countries. Gedmatch is hypothetical anyway.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Europe_sunshine_hours_map.png

[Gaston]

They are not good. Pretty bad. I am not European.

2.51% arab

3.08% north african

4.74% East med

Oceanian 0.47%

0.20% Volga-Ural

I am a mixture of Arab, Jewish and North African, who disappointment.

It's much higher than that. You're probably around 50% MENA and between 5 and 10% bronze age Eurasian. Makes sense since you don't look like paleolithic pure Europeans:

http://i.imgur.com/ks83w.jpg

Nor like mesolithic Europeans:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/76/e8/7b/76e87bf4565eace604200bc86345603b.jpg
http://s10.postimg.org/sbetmupnd/Loschbour.png
http://theknowledgeplymouth.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/la-brana-man.jpg




Your face looks like an in-between between the above and Middle Easterners/North Africans. Too gracile for a pure European.

[Green]

It's much higher than that. You're probably around 50% MENA and between 5 and 10% bronze age Eurasian. Makes sense since you don't look like paleolithic pure Europeans:

http://i.imgur.com/ks83w.jpg

Nor like mesolithic Europeans:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/76/e8/7b/76e87bf4565eace604200bc86345603b.jpg
http://s10.postimg.org/sbetmupnd/Loschbour.png
http://theknowledgeplymouth.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/la-brana-man.jpg




Your face looks like an in-between between the above and Middle Easterners/North Africans. Too gracile for a pure European.

thank you very much for the information, now I be able to convert to Islam lol

[Gaston]

thank you very much for the information, now I be able to convert to Islam lol

lol you don't need to, Judaism and Christianity come from the Middle East too. :D


You can keep your pagan heritage since you're like ~40% Mesolithic European.

[Damião de Góis]

Your results are fine and perfectly normal for a Spanish. Those North African etc numbers just show the similarity you have with your neighbors however slight it is. That's adjustment to the climate other than actual origin in my opinion ( I keep repeating this), because of the sun hours Spain has are similar to their closest African countries. Gedmatch is hypothetical anyway.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Europe_sunshine_hours_map.png

What do sun hours have to do with genetic results? Are you saying some Americans and Australians will have their genetic results changed in some years because of the sun?

[Green]

lol you don't need to, Judaism and Christianity come from the Middle East too. :D


You can keep your pagan heritage since you're like ~40% Mesolithic European.

I get exactly the same. Christianity for whites, I'm not.

[Era]

What do sun hours have to do with genetic results? Are you saying some Americans and Australians will have their genetic results changed in some years because of the sun?

Give it a few thousand years.

[Not a Cop]

Give it a few thousand years.

There is no selection for darkies in Australia or Sud-Africa, people live in houses and wear hats. Culture allows them not to care about the sun. Though Australia has highest level of skin cancer in the world, so selection is there, but very slow.

[Oneeye]

Guys, we have this marvelous invention now that is called "sun screen". I personally haven't lost any relatives to skin cancer yet.

[Drawing-slim]

They are not good. Pretty bad. I am not European.

2.51% arab

3.08% north african

4.74% East med

Oceanian 0.47%

0.20% Volga-Ural

I am a mixture of Arab, Jewish and North African, who disappointment.
Dude, stop it. Your results are very European, it has been explained to you it's very very ancient west med east med etc

[Ylla]

Any haplogroup combination is possible irrespective of where you plot/ancestry.
Some combinations are more likely (depending where the haplogroups are more frequently found) but you can't really guess.