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'owight Gavnah

06-15-2015, 01:54 PM

Both parents from Afghanistan, pashtoon and tadjik, dont quote please thanks

Eurogenes EUtest
EU test

# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_ASIAN 25.81
2 WEST_ASIAN 25.77
3 EAST_MED 18.19
4 EAST_EURO 13.75
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 6.03
6 SIBERIAN 5.49
7 EAST_ASIAN 3.63
8 ATLANTIC 0.85
9 MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.49

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Brahui 12.97
2 Balochi 13.15
3 Burusho 18.64
4 Kalash 19.2
5 IR 22.65
6 Kurdish 25.5
7 Lezgin 25.76
8 Sindhi 26.12
9 TR 28.01
10 Armenian 33.53
11 GE 34.44
12 Mandean 34.52
13 Assyrian 34.6
14 IQ 34.97
15 AJ 35.93
16 GR 37.22
17 RO 38.04
18 Serbian 38.38
19 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 38.62
20 IN 39.05

Eurogenes V2K15
EU test V2K15
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 28.35
2 South_Asian 25.01
3 East_Med 16.17
4 Eastern_Euro 13.98
5 North_Sea 6.65
6 Siberian 5.25
7 Southeast_Asian 3.45
8 Amerindian 0.7
9 West_Med 0.37
10 Northeast_African 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 9.4
2 Afghan_Tadjik 9.9
3 Afghan_Uzbeki 9.93
4 Tadjik 10.94
5 Balochi 11.61
6 Brahui 12.21
7 Makrani 12.21
8 Turkmen 12.69
9 Kalash 17.84
10 Pathan 18.19
11 Burusho 18.61
12 Azeri 22.2
13 Iranian 22.29
14 Punjabi_Jat 23.28
15 Sindhi 23.65
16 Kumyk 23.72
17 Tabassaran 23.81
18 Kurdish 23.92
19 Lezgin 24.42
20 Nogay 25.33

EUROGENES K36

Eurogenes k36

Population
Amerindian 0.20%
Arabian -
Armenian 4.06%
Basque 0.91%
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian 1.40%
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian 5.27%
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 3.08%
Eastern_Euro 2.11%
Fennoscandian 0.57%
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 8.67%
North_African -
North_Atlantic 1.45%
North_Caucasian 18.10%
North_Sea 3.25%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 0.50%
South_Asian 12.97%
South_Central_Asian 31.96%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.61%
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.85%
West_Med -

EUROGNENES K13
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.45
2 South_Asian 23.43
3 East_Med 13.31
4 Baltic 7
5 Siberian 6.21
6 North_Atlantic 5.42
7 East_Asian 3.7
8 West_Med 2.95
9 Amerindian 0.94
10 Northeast_African 0.33
11 Red_Sea 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Tadjik 8.64
2 Afghan_Pashtun 8.65
3 Tadjik 9.92
4 Turkmen 13.8
5 Makrani 16.4
6 Burusho 16.91
7 Pathan 17.14
8 Kalash 17.83
9 Balochi 19.36
10 Brahui 19.82
11 Kumyk 19.87
12 Iranian 20.81
13 Azeri 20.85
14 Kabardin 21.58
15 Balkar 21.67
16 Tabassaran 21.85
17 Kurdish 21.94
18 Punjabi_Jat 22.12
19 Chechen 22.14
20 Lezgin 22.27

MDLP WORLD
MDLP World

# Population Percent
1 Caucaus_Parsia 41.27
2 Indian 19
3 Middle_East 9.68
4 South_and_West_European 9.63
5 North_and_East_European 9.11
6 East_Asian 6.2
7 North_Asian 3.68
8 Melanesian 0.8
9 Arctic_Amerind 0.5
10 Paleo_African 0.07
11 Mesoamerican 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pashtun 10
2 Tadjik 12.12
3 Parsi 13.89
4 Pathan 14.2
5 Turkmen 14.4
6 Balochi 15.35
7 Makrani 15.77
8 Burusho 16.02
9 Brahui 16.6
10 Azeri 19.99
11 Kumyk 20.38
12 Sindhi 21.04
13 Iranian 21.4
14 Kurd 22.29
15 Kabardinian 22.33
16 NorthOssetian 22.5
17 Chechen 22.55
18 Cirkassian 22.58
19 Balkarian 22.62
20 Lezgin 22.76

Dodecad V3

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 30.1
2 South_Asian 23.52
3 West_European 12.04
4 Mediterranean 10.39
5 Southeast_Asian 7.39
6 East_European 6.7
7 Southwest_Asian 5.48
8 Northeast_Asian 4.17
9 Neo_African 0.11
10 Palaeo_African 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Balochi (HGDP) 13.67
2 Makrani (HGDP) 13.9
3 Brahui (HGDP) 14.19
4 Pathan (HGDP) 16.23
5 Burusho (HGDP) 18.55
6 Kashmiri_Pandit (Reich) 20.02
7 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 20.27
8 Kurd (Dodecad) 21.81
9 Stalskoe (Xing) 21.83
10 Pakistani (Xing) 22.25
11 Sindhi (HGDP) 23.22
12 Kalash (HGDP) 23.34
13 Kurd (Xing) 23.56
14 Iranians (Behar) 23.58
15 Iranian (Dodecad) 23.9
16 Urkarah (Xing) 25.54
17 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 25.67
18 Nepalese (Xing) 26.85
19 Uzbeks (Behar) 27.02
20 Turks (Behar) 27.98

MDLP World 22

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 38.86
2 Indian 17.21
3 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 7.96
4 North-East-European 7.56
5 Indo-Iranian 6.52
6 Near_East 6.04
7 East-Siberean 5.87
8 East-South-Asian 2.54
9 Samoedic 2.41
10 North-European-Mesolithic 2.19
11 Arctic-Amerind 1.26
12 Melanesian 0.81
13 Indo-Tibetan 0.45
14 Austronesian 0.27
15 Pygmy 0.04
16 Mesoamerican 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pashtun (derived) 10.19
2 Tadjik (derived) 11.97
3 Turkmen (derived) 12.54
4 Pathan (derived) 13.33
5 Parsi (derived) 14.21
6 Burusho (derived) 14.85
7 Balochi (derived) 15.11
8 Makrani (derived) 15.79
9 Brahui (derived) 16.5
10 Azeri (derived) 19.74
11 Kumyk (derived) 19.94
12 Sindhi (derived) 20.32
13 Iranian (derived) 20.49
14 Nogai (derived) 20.64
15 Uzbek (derived) 21.15
16 Cirkassian (derived) 21.68
17 Balkarian (derived) 22.07
18 Kabardinian (derived) 22.12
19 Kurd (derived) 22.15
20 Turk (derived) 22.53

Anglojew

06-15-2015, 02:43 PM

Interesting. Thanks.

'owight Gavnah

06-16-2015, 10:47 AM

bump? what do my results show? is no one interested?

Hadouken

01-02-2017, 06:39 PM

didnt know you shared your results bro . thanks for sharing

now it is myanthropologies turn :D

Voskos

01-02-2017, 06:41 PM

Do you have Slavic ancestry or is it normal for an afghan to get 14 percent east euro?

'owight Gavnah

01-02-2017, 07:01 PM

Do you have Slavic ancestry or is it normal for an afghan to get 14 percent east euro?

Now it's actually quite normal

Leto

01-24-2017, 08:11 PM

Now it's actually quite normal
Any other Afghan samples? I wonder what the highest 'Euro' score would be.

Pennywise

01-24-2017, 08:16 PM

Seems like you have also some Turkmen ancestry or something, given the relatively high Siberian/East Asian admixture.

little witch

01-24-2017, 08:17 PM

Do you have Slavic ancestry or is it normal for an afghan to get 14 percent east euro?

It's normal. It's from their Indo-European ancestors. Even North Indians can score significant East Euro.

Ylla

01-24-2017, 08:19 PM

Berahthraban

01-24-2017, 08:27 PM

^^ That's cool even has more East Euro than me. Maybe it's EHG?

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 26.66
2 WEST_MED 19.25
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.83
4 ATLANTIC 11.55
5 WEST_ASIAN 9.8
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.74
7 EAST_EURO 7.12
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.97
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.09

It is definitely due to IE (mix of EHG and CHG).

shahenshah

01-24-2017, 08:53 PM

Nice result.Yore result is typical for an afghan pashtun/tajik.

'owight Gavnah

01-24-2017, 11:12 PM

'owight Gavnah

01-24-2017, 11:14 PM

Seems like you have also some Turkmen ancestry or something, given the relatively high Siberian/East Asian admixture.

Erm not as far as I know, my east Eurasian levels is pretty low considering my mother is originally from badghis which borders Turkmenistan. Whole family looks pretty caucaosid, some SLIGHTLY Turkic influenced but nothing really that stands out.

RN97

01-24-2017, 11:32 PM

You got a shitton of south Asian. I don't get why Afghans wanna argue so much about how they're not south asian looking.... :confused:

'owight Gavnah

01-25-2017, 10:34 AM

You got a shitton of south Asian. I don't get why Afghans wanna argue so much about how they're not south asian looking.... :confused:

Those are the old calculators lol, Iranians and Kurds also get south Asian above 10%. I've posted my results based on the new calculators in other threads, where the "south Asian" is actually broken down into ASI and west Eurasian components. Look at Eurasia k9 Asi.

Hadouken

01-25-2017, 10:35 AM

Those are the old calculators lol, Iranians and Kurds also get south Asian above 10%. I've posted my results based on the new calculators in other threads, where the "south Asian" is actually broken down into ASI and west Eurasian components. Look at Eurasia k9 Asi.

talking about us (kurds) again wrongly . we dont score above 10% ffs man .

'owight Gavnah

01-25-2017, 10:39 AM

talking about us (kurds) again wrongly . we dont score above 10% ffs man .

In the old calculators ffs, and not necessarily Kurds from dersim or whatnot. I've seen it myself, I was tryna make a point

Is it not true that the old calculators estimate the south Asian because it is heavily west Eurasian shifted?

Pahli

01-25-2017, 10:40 AM

talking about us (kurds) again wrongly . we dont score above 10% ffs man .

Average Kurds get below 10%, although Feyli Kurds and Khorasan Kurds might get a bit more because they're a bit more Eastern shifted. If I remember correctly we both get around 5 - 7% depending on the calculator.

You got a shitton of south Asian. I don't get why Afghans wanna argue so much about how they're not south asian looking.... :confused:

Not all of them are South Asian looking. A decent amount can pass as West Asian / Med.

Hadouken

01-25-2017, 10:42 AM

In the old calculators ffs, and not necessarily Kurds from dersim or whatnot. I've seen it myself, I was tryna make a point

I am speaking about old calculators too

not only dersim kurds but 95% of Kurds dont score 10%+ . only SOME Kurds from SOME areas score things like 12% on SOME calculators

I score below 10 on all calculators

Demhat scores below 10 on all calculators

Zoran I think also not over 10

other Kurdish members who are not active but have posted their results are also all under 10

trust me

Hadouken

01-25-2017, 10:43 AM

'owight Gavnah

01-25-2017, 10:54 AM

Average Kurds get below 10%, although Feyli Kurds and Khorasan Kurds might get a bit more because they're a bit more Eastern shifted. If I remember correctly we both get around 5 - 7% depending on the calculator.

Ofcourse we are not south Asian looking lol, what the hell is going on?? Some could pass in the Indus( Pakistan), but MAJORITY of us look much different than the rest of South Asia. It's not even a debate. And I posted the OLD calculators where the south Asian is heavily diluted with west Asian components. I get 7% ASI in the Eurasia k9, Iranians get 3.5%. Go figure.
Not all of them are South Asian looking. A decent amount can pass as West Asian / Med.

'owight Gavnah

01-25-2017, 10:57 AM

Average Kurds get below 10%, although Feyli Kurds and Khorasan Kurds might get a bit more because they're a bit more Eastern shifted. If I remember correctly we both get around 5 - 7% depending on the calculator.

Not all of them are South Asian looking. A decent amount can pass as West Asian / Med.

Yes some do look south Asian, but judge for yourself

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Hadouken

01-25-2017, 10:57 AM

I have seen owight gavnah . he doesnt look south asian in the slightest . if he did there wouldnt be anything wrong with it too but he doesnt . neither do many other afghans . the south asian in the calculators that afghans score is mostly ancient and a big portion of it is caucasoid .

however as I said owight we score below 10% . so please be careful when you make statements because otherwise I feel as if I am talking and posting for nothing :D

Ylla

01-25-2017, 11:01 AM

Can you post your pic?

I want myanthro to test as well :D

Pahli

01-25-2017, 11:03 AM

Yes some do look south Asian, but judge for yourself

I'm well aware, some Afghans can pass in my family with ease. Although the most Afghans I've seen resembled Persians more than Pakis, some slightly darker, some even lighter than Persians.

'owight Gavnah

01-25-2017, 11:05 AM

Can you post your pic?

I want myanthro to test as well :D

Don't quote please

I'm on the left, younger brother right

Pahli

01-25-2017, 11:05 AM

Can you post your pic?

I want myanthro to test as well :D

Myanthro's MDLP world 22:

# Population Percent
1 Indian 50.00
2 West-Asian 25.00
3 North-East-European 25.00

j/k

'owight Gavnah

01-25-2017, 11:08 AM

I'm well aware, some Afghans can pass in my family with ease. Although the most Afghans I've seen resembled Persians more than Pakis, some slightly darker, some even lighter than Persians.

These two afghans are both playing professional football at the highest levels in their country

Do they look Kurdish? Pass?

He's 20 and already playing regular football in the bundesliga

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t-YAIEO8w30/VrqXkM7r-FI/AAAAAAAFiSU/HA3QSy2blAQ/s1600/tsg1899-hoffenheim-portrait-amiri.png

He's playing for joda in the erdivisie in Holland, he just got called up to play for the national afg team !!

http://www.rodajc.nl/upload/images/Farshad-Noor.jpg

Pahli

01-25-2017, 11:10 AM

These two afghans are both playing professional football at the highest levels in their country

Do they look Kurdish? Pass?

He's 20 and already playing regular football in the bundesliga

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t-YAIEO8w30/VrqXkM7r-FI/AAAAAAAFiSU/HA3QSy2blAQ/s1600/tsg1899-hoffenheim-portrait-amiri.png

He's playing for joda in the erdivisie in Holland, he just got called up to play for the national afg team !!

http://www.rodajc.nl/upload/images/Farshad-Noor.jpg

Both can pass and they fit within the Kurdish range too

Leto

01-25-2017, 08:42 PM

I have seen owight gavnah . he doesnt look south asian in the slightest . if he did there wouldnt be anything wrong with it too but he doesnt . neither do many other afghans . the south asian in the calculators that afghans score is mostly ancient and a big portion of it is caucasoid .
Well, South Indians score up to 70% SA on those calcs.

Hadouken

01-25-2017, 09:14 PM

Well, South Indians score up to 70% SA on those calcs.

yes and about 1/2 - 1/3 or so is Australoid of that

Leto

01-25-2017, 09:55 PM

yes and about 1/2 - 1/3 or so is Australoid of that
So South Indians are 60-70% Caucasoid? Quite hard to believe.

Hadouken

01-25-2017, 10:02 PM

So South Indians are 60-70% Caucasoid? Quite hard to believe.

around 50-60% I think . rest is australoid + mongoloid

Mingle

03-01-2018, 03:44 PM

Leto

03-01-2018, 03:50 PM

Interesting results. How much ANE do you get on ANE K7? I think Tajiks have the highest amount of it among South-Central Asians.

Also, MLDP seems to be a pretty bad calc. I'm closer to Tajiks than ever you are there on there. Won't take it too seriously anymore.
The oracle of MDLP K16 is not that bad. MDLP World is interesting too, in my opinion. The OP needs to try Dodecad K12b.

Thambi

03-01-2018, 03:58 PM

The oracle of MDLP K16 is not that bad. MDLP World is interesting too, in my opinion. The OP needs to try Dodecad K12b.

no mdlp K16 oracles are terrible. Atleast for south and central asians. They give populations all over the place. Dodecad k12b is a very good calc imo.

Leto

03-01-2018, 04:20 PM

no mdlp K16 oracles are terrible. Atleast for south and central asians. They give populations all over the place. Dodecad k12b is a very good calc imo.
I like K12b but not its oracle. For East Europeans and Russians K16 is not bad at all. Maybe for Indians it is.

My dad for example:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) 2.75
2 Pole (WestPoland) 3.8
3 Cossack (Kuban) 4.02
4 Belarusian (Belarus) 4.06
5 Ukrainians_north (NorthUkraine) 4.31
6 Pole (EastPoland) 4.36
7 Pole (Poland) 4.39
8 Ukrainian (Ukraine) 4.55
9 Russian (CentralRussia) 4.63
10 Pole (Wroclaw) 4.95

Hadouken

03-02-2018, 02:08 PM

mdlp oracle is actually one of the best there is

if you are of 2 ethnicities just look it up . it is very good in predicting your ethnic groups in the mixed oracle ;) and if not then very close

I can demonstrate later with some kit numbers of people who are half half . right now I dont have the nerves for it . if you are interested to see just pm me later

Leto

03-02-2018, 02:49 PM

Interesting results. How much ANE do you get on ANE K7? I think Tajiks have the highest amount of it among South-Central Asians.

Also, MLDP seems to be a pretty bad calc. I'm closer to Tajiks than ever you are there on there. Won't take it too seriously anymore.
Here is the guy on the K15 PCA map

https://image.ibb.co/n2Cmhn/K15V4.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Didac

12-18-2021, 11:09 AM

Grace O'Malley

12-18-2021, 11:48 AM

Ur Albanian and an Afghan scores higher than u? Lol just shows how absolutely retarded gedmatch is. It’s not ehg it’s a bullshit site

It depends on what the East Euro is comprised of in that calculator. Possibly some mixture of components. What is important is what you get in the Oracle. This is mine for example. What would be odd is if someone got a very distant ethnicity. It is the tally of all the components that matter.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 29.05
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.75
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.54
4 EAST_EURO 11.62
5 WEST_MED 8.12
6 WEST_ASIAN 6.84
7 EAST_MED 1.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3.19
2 IE 3.78
3 Scottish 4.07
4 English 5.64
5 NL 6.03
6 DK 6.08
7 Cornish 6.08
8 NO 6.35
9 West_&_Central_German 6.72
10 South_&_Central_Swedish 7.01
11 North_Swedish 10.76
12 AT 13.82
13 FR 14.69
14 HU 18.52
15 South_Finnish 19.56
16 Serbian 21.36
17 PT 22.11
18 PL 22.13
19 ES 22.34
20 EE 24.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Scottish + 32% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.7
2 66.1% Scottish + 33.9% NO @ 2.85
3 83.3% Orcadian + 16.7% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.92
4 72.8% IE + 27.2% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.94
5 83.7% Orcadian + 16.3% NO @ 3
6 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Lezgin @ 3
7 96.1% Orcadian + 3.9% EE @ 3.03
8 96.8% Orcadian + 3.2% LIT @ 3.04
9 92.1% Orcadian + 7.9% North_Swedish @ 3.06
10 98.5% Orcadian + 1.5% GE @ 3.07
11 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 3.1
12 96.9% Orcadian + 3.1% PL @ 3.11
13 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% Northwest_Russian @ 3.11
14 97.3% Orcadian + 2.7% East_Finnish @ 3.11
15 72.1% IE + 27.9% NO @ 3.12
16 97.4% Orcadian + 2.6% West_Russian @ 3.12
17 96.8% Orcadian + 3.2% South_Finnish @ 3.12
18 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% UA @ 3.13
19 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.13
20 98.1% Orcadian + 1.9% Erzya @ 3.13

Didac

12-18-2021, 12:08 PM

It depends on what the East Euro is comprised of in that calculator. Possibly some mixture of components. What is important is what you get in the Oracle. This is mine for example. What would be odd is if someone got a very distant ethnicity. It is the tally of all the components that matter.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 29.05
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.75
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.54
4 EAST_EURO 11.62
5 WEST_MED 8.12
6 WEST_ASIAN 6.84
7 EAST_MED 1.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3.19
2 IE 3.78
3 Scottish 4.07
4 English 5.64
5 NL 6.03
6 DK 6.08
7 Cornish 6.08
8 NO 6.35
9 West_&_Central_German 6.72
10 South_&_Central_Swedish 7.01
11 North_Swedish 10.76
12 AT 13.82
13 FR 14.69
14 HU 18.52
15 South_Finnish 19.56
16 Serbian 21.36
17 PT 22.11
18 PL 22.13
19 ES 22.34
20 EE 24.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Scottish + 32% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.7
2 66.1% Scottish + 33.9% NO @ 2.85
3 83.3% Orcadian + 16.7% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.92
4 72.8% IE + 27.2% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.94
5 83.7% Orcadian + 16.3% NO @ 3
6 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Lezgin @ 3
7 96.1% Orcadian + 3.9% EE @ 3.03
8 96.8% Orcadian + 3.2% LIT @ 3.04
9 92.1% Orcadian + 7.9% North_Swedish @ 3.06
10 98.5% Orcadian + 1.5% GE @ 3.07
11 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 3.1
12 96.9% Orcadian + 3.1% PL @ 3.11
13 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% Northwest_Russian @ 3.11
14 97.3% Orcadian + 2.7% East_Finnish @ 3.11
15 72.1% IE + 27.9% NO @ 3.12
16 97.4% Orcadian + 2.6% West_Russian @ 3.12
17 96.8% Orcadian + 3.2% South_Finnish @ 3.12
18 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% UA @ 3.13
19 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.13
20 98.1% Orcadian + 1.9% Erzya @ 3.13

Grace this site is absolutely nonsense it gives Pakistanis and Afghans mysterious european dna even tho they plot east af and aren’t anywhere near west Asians even. They have no euro dna this is just another example of how ridiculous gedmatch is it’s laughable. These mixture of components to comprise east euro etc is another issue and reason why it’s so wildly inaccurate. Is there any other site with the same premise as gedmatch that actually has accurate data and an accurate system instead of nonsensical data and hogwash results ?

Grace O'Malley

12-18-2021, 12:13 PM

Grace this site is absolutely nonsense it gives Pakistanis and Afghans mysterious european dna even tho they plot east af and aren’t anywhere near west Asians even. They have no euro dna this is just another example of how ridiculous gedmatch is it’s laughable. These mixture of components to comprise east euro etc is another issue and reason why it’s so wildly inaccurate. Is there any other site with the same premise as gedmatch that actually has accurate data and an accurate system instead of nonsensical data and hogwash results ?

It's most probably a mixture of Steppe type components. Gedrosia was another one that was high in the Irish and British. The main thing is not the individual components though.

Just adding Gedmatch is just where the calculators are available. The calculators themselves are made by different people. Eurogenes and EU are made by Davidski for example. Dodecad calculators are made by a Greek called Dienekes.

Myself and 3 family members were used as part of the Irish component in MDLP K23. The gentleman who made the MDLP calculators is Estonian.

Didac

12-18-2021, 12:20 PM

It's most probably a mixture of Steppe type components. Gedrosia was another one that was high in the Irish and British. The main thing is not the individual components though.

Steppe lol using mumbojumbo to give modern day results absolutely laughable

Grace O'Malley

12-18-2021, 12:30 PM

Steppe lol using mumbojumbo to give modern day results absolutely laughable

It isn't mumbojumbo. They are most probably related to something like ANE or CHG. Some mixture of components. I haven't researched the topic but most of these calculators were done before there was components that could be isolated as now there are actual Bell Beakers, Yamnaya, Corded Ware genomes etc. They will give different results. What is important with the older calculators is that they do place people in the correct ethnicity or thereabouts.

Didac

12-18-2021, 12:52 PM

It isn't mumbojumbo. They are most probably related to something like ANE or CHG. Some mixture of components. I haven't researched the topic but most of these calculators were done before there was components that could be isolated as now there are actual Bell Beakers, Yamnaya, Corded Ware genomes etc. They will give different results. What is important with the older calculators is that they do place people in the correct ethnicity or thereabouts.

For the time giving a rough idea yeah maybe in 2002 or 1995 that’s how inaccurate it is. The only place gedmatch has is in the trash in my opinion. It shouldn’t be taken seriously at all. Regardless if there’s a new site let me know I’d be interested

Nurzat

12-18-2021, 01:03 PM

For the time giving a rough idea yeah maybe in 2002 or 1995 that’s how inaccurate it is. The only place gedmatch has is in the trash in my opinion. It shouldn’t be taken seriously at all. Regardless if there’s a new site let me know I’d be interested

Afghans and especially Tajiks have common ancestry with some Europeans, as they partly descend from Bronze Age steppe "Indo-Europeans". actually they sometimes have more "Indo-European" ancestry than many Europeans, especially than Southern Europeans, who trace most of their ancestry in Anatolia (EEF, which originated in Pinarbasi-like populations, which are like 3/4 Natufian-like, i.e. Levantine/Near Eastern).

you can read David Reich's book to understand how all this makes sense when tracing prehistoric peopling of the world, which the basal populations are, what ghost populations we still have to find material proof of etc

Grace O'Malley

12-18-2021, 01:04 PM

Afghans and especially Tajiks have common ancestry with some Europeans, as they partly descend from Bronze Age steppe "Indo-Europeans". actually they sometimes have more "Indo-European" ancestry than many Europeans, especially than Southern Europeans, who trace most of their ancestry in Anatolia (EEF, which originated in Pinarbasi-like populations, which are like 3/4 Natufian-like, i.e. Levantine/Near Eastern).

you can read David Reich's book to understand how all this makes sense when tracing prehistoric peopling of the world, which the basal populations are, what ghost populations we still have to find material proof of etc

Yes that's my impression of the results. Something ancient and shared.

Didac

12-18-2021, 01:07 PM

Afghans and especially Tajiks have common ancestry with some Europeans, as they partly descend from Bronze Age steppe "Indo-Europeans". actually they sometimes have more "Indo-European" ancestry than many Europeans, especially than Southern Europeans, who trace most of their ancestry in Anatolia (EEF, which originated in Pinarbasi-like populations, which are like 3/4 Natufian-like, i.e. Levantine/Near Eastern).

you can read David Reich's book to understand how all this makes sense when tracing prehistoric peopling of the world, which the basal populations are, what ghost populations we still have to find material proof of etc

More mumbojumbo. Afghans tajiks aren’t even close to west Asia let alone europe.

Leto

12-18-2021, 01:14 PM

For the time giving a rough idea yeah maybe in 2002 or 1995 that’s how inaccurate it is. The only place gedmatch has is in the trash in my opinion. It shouldn’t be taken seriously at all. Regardless if there’s a new site let me know I’d be interested
Please stop bumping old threads opened years ago by people that are now gone or banned. If you don't like Gedmatch, don't use it, no one cares what you think. You registered here two months ago while others have been around for years and know better than you do.

Zoro

12-18-2021, 03:07 PM

Ur Albanian and an Afghan scores higher than u? Lol just shows how absolutely retarded gedmatch is. It’s not ehg it’s a bullshit site

It doesn’t mean that Afghans have more E. European than Albanians. Gedmatch is a RATIO of components. What it means is the RATIO of E. European to all other components is higher than Albanians. If you want to see ABSOLUTE total E. European you have to do IBS of Albanians and Afghans against E. European.

Here’s a simple example to understand what RATIO means. Let’s say I have 1 red marble (E. European) and 4 green marbles (W. Asian). Therefore my ratio of red marbles (E. European) is 1/5 or 20%

Let’s say you have more red marbles than me 2 red marbles but you also have 10 green marbles. Your ratio of red marbles (E. European) is 2/12 or 17% even though you have more double the red marbles than me.

Didac

12-18-2021, 09:55 PM

Please stop bumping old threads opened years ago by people that are now gone or banned. If you don't like Gedmatch, don't use it, no one cares what you think. You registered here two months ago while others have been around for years and know better than you do.

If you don’t care don’t respond faggot, stop replying to me I’ll reopen whatever thread I want

Leto

12-18-2021, 10:12 PM

If you don’t care don’t respond faggot, stop replying to me I’ll reopen whatever thread I want
Hey, that really wasn't necessary. I was polite, unlike you. I seriously advise you to shut up and apologize, otherwise you're gonna get banned soon if you continue on this trajectory.

Didac

12-18-2021, 10:39 PM

Hey, that really wasn't necessary. I was polite, unlike you. I seriously advise you to shut up and apologize, otherwise you're gonna get banned soon if you continue on this trajectory.

Didn’t seem too polite anyway idc don’t tell someone which thread to open up mind ur own business if you don’t want to look at the thread or don’t care don’t respond or open it instead of throwing a hissy fit

Leto

12-18-2021, 10:46 PM

Didn’t seem too polite anyway idc don’t tell someone which thread to open up mind ur own business if you don’t want to look at the thread or don’t care don’t respond or open it instead of throwing a hissy fit
Alright, at the very least I would like you to leave my own threads untouched.