classify papuans

[Mortimer]

http://assets.survivalinternational.org/pictures/99/ind-asm-jh-18_screen.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01757/West_Papuan_rebels_1757338a.jpg

[Alessio]

Uhh Australoid

Mad Australoid!

[Mortimer]

Uhh Australoid

Mad Australoid!

could they pass as indigenous australians

[Shah-Jehan]

They pass in South India:rolleyes:

[spanish catalan]

negrito(african) + denisovan(asiatic neanderthal)

[Shah-Jehan]

This is what Vedda people look like.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Mankerny_family_2006.jpg/1024px-Mankerny_family_2006.jpg

None of them pass in South-east Asia as Papuans.

[Mortimer]

negrito(african) + denisovan(asiatic neanderthal)

they are not african bro, they cluster with east asians and native americans and on 23andme a aboriginal was 80-90% east asian (on old one where they had only 3 races) rest was euro and african

http://s17.postimg.org/78id5k1an/kingkonghgdpworldoceanianandasian.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
Bilder hochladen (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=german)

[Willem]

they are not african bro, they cluster with east asians and native americans and on 23andme a aboriginal was 80-90% east asian (on old one where they had only 3 races) rest was euro and african

http://s17.postimg.org/78id5k1an/kingkonghgdpworldoceanianandasian.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
Bilder hochladen (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=german)

Mongoloids are depigmented Australoids.

[Mortimer]

Mongoloids are depigmented Australoids.

mongoloids look different, but genetically they are close

[Willem]

mongoloids look different, but genetically they are close

That is because of the climate and adaptation. But ultimately Mongoloids are basically Australoids who went north and evolved differently. That is why Australoids and Mongoloids cluster closely on the global pca plot.

[spanish catalan]

australoid race not exist
they are the first people of out africa with south indians,andamanese,negrito and australian aboriginal people

[Anthony PV]

Mongoloids are depigmented Australoids.

mongoloids look different, but genetically they are close

That is because of the climate and adaptation. But ultimately Mongoloids are basically Australoids who went north and evolved differently. That is why Australoids and Mongoloids cluster closely on the global pca plot.
If 'Australian Aborigines' and 'East Asians' cluster genetically together now, it's because the two populations mixed in the past: I think East Asians originally lived in the northern parts of East Asia (the eastern parts of Siberia) and migrated in the southern parts of East Asia (the southern peninsula of East Asia) where the genetic cousins of the 'Australian Aborigines', such as the Papuans, the Austronesians, the Negritos, the Polynesians, etc., originally lived. The former displaced the latter and interbred with them, resulting in two originally distinct populations 'now belonging' to the same 'genetic cluster'.

[Mortimer]

If 'Australian Aborigines' and 'East Asians' cluster genetically together now, it's because the two populations mixed in the past: I think East Asians originally lived in the northern parts of East Asia (the eastern parts of Siberia) and migrated in the southern parts of East Asia (the southern peninsula of East Asia) where the genetic cousins of the 'Australian Aborigines', such as the Papuans, the Austronesians, the Negritos, the Polynesians, etc., originally lived. The former displaced the latter and interbred with them, resulting in two originally distinct populations 'now belonging' to the same 'genetic cluster'.

i dont think so makes no sense, i think they split up more recently then the others. they didnt mixed, that makes no sense to me. like all out of africa are one cluster and africa is another, because humans split from africa. that could mean east asians split later from oceanians

[Anthony PV]

i dont think so makes no sense, i think they split up more recently then the others. they didnt mixed, that makes no sense to me. like all out of africa are one cluster and africa is another, because humans split from africa. that could mean east asians split later from oceanians
I stick to what I wrote: 'Australoids' and 'Mongoloids' were originally two distinct and unrelated populations who came into contact through migrations and interbred. And because they interbred in the past, they are now 'genetically close'. I've known some Cambodians back in high school and their face is a peculiar mix of Chinese and Indian traits...

[Mortimer]

I stick to what I wrote: 'Australoids' and 'Mongoloids' were originally two distinct and unrelated populations who came into contact through migrations and interbred. And because they interbred in the past, they are now 'genetically close'. I've known some Cambodians back in high school and their face is a peculiar mix of Chinese and Indian traits...

proto-mongoloids like the ainu look quiete australoid though sometimes, the neo-mongoloids might evolved from proto-mongoloids

http://www.conservapedia.com/images/5/52/Ainu_people..jpg

but there are populations who are intermediate between oceanian and east asian though like samoans or some southeast asians

[Anthony PV]

proto-mongoloids like the ainu look quiete australoid though sometimes, the neo-mongoloids might evolved from proto-mongoloids
http://www.conservapedia.com/images/5/52/Ainu_people..jpg
but there are populations who are intermediate between oceanian and east asian though like samoans or some southeast asians
I think there was an 'Australoid' population living in some of the parts of modern day Japan. I also think the 'Ainus' are the result of the mix of these autochtons and the early 'Mongoloid' settlers coming from Northern China and Korea... Then there were later (and more numerous) 'Mongoloid' migrants who came after them, overran the Ainus and founded modern-day Japan, marginalizing the Ainus in the process. But again, it's just a theory from my part and not the absolute truth.

[Mortimer]

I think there was an 'Australoid' population living in some of the parts of modern day Japan. I also think the 'Ainus' are the result of the mix of these autochtons and the early 'Mongoloid' settlers coming from Northern China and Korea... Then there were later (and more numerous) 'Mongoloid' migrants who came after them, overran the Ainus and founded modern-day Japan, marginalizing the Ainus in the process. But again, it's just a theory from my part and not the absolute truth.

ok, i dont know it either as absolute truth we are just speculating

[gum_dum]

Papuans don't look like south indians at all. Papuans seem to be good looking/handsome/robust bunch of people.

[Mortimer]

Papuans don't look like south indians at all. Papuans seem to be good looking/handsome/robust bunch of people.

noticed that too, they look very cool and handsome.

[gum_dum]

That is because of the climate and adaptation. But ultimately Mongoloids are basically Australoids who went north and evolved differently. That is why Australoids and Mongoloids cluster closely on the global pca plot.

Interesting, this is theory or well established fact?

[Guanimaa]

It seems that all Asian populations originated from Darker skinned populations.

India - Andamanese
https://rapidiq.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/from-left-to-right-neremo-and-his-father-late-nao-junior_2006.jpg
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/photo/44926323.cms


Tribal Indian woman:
https://cultureandconservation.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/elegant-paniya-lady.jpg



Filipino - Negritos:
http://img03.deviantart.net/d939/i/2011/033/1/0/negrito_on_the_flightline_by_quixotegraphics-d38okzm.jpg
http://blog.nola.com/tv_impact/2009/08/large_familytree2.jpg


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-swr4xf60y48/TpL_CQPoq4I/AAAAAAAAA5U/j3I6-B5wTbE/s1600/Australoid.png

[Sikeliot]

Papuans look a lot like Sri Lankans, only with African textured hair.

[Mortimer]

Papuans look a lot like Sri Lankans, only with African textured hair.

how many sri lankans did you saw and how many papuans? to me sri lankans look more like indians and papuans look very different

does he look papuan?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLZFiiEFJdk

[Guanimaa]

Papuans looks vary somewhat, here are some:
http://images.theage.com.au/2008/07/04/142518/svPAPUAN-420x0.jpg
https://mysleepyfamily.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/p1030834.jpg
http://www.marxisthumanistinitiative.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Wenda.jpg
https://eiainvestigator.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/papua-gudmens.jpg
https://www.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/pressreleases/678.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3145/2708370936_49d650f76b.jpg

[Mortimer]

Do you think they could pass as african americans? or black?

[Guanimaa]

Do you think they could pass as african americans? or black?

Only some of them. The majority have a distinct Papuan look.

[Ctwentysevenj]

could they pass as indigenous australians

No, they have a different look.

http://www.andrerieutranslations.com/images/2792Old_aboriginal_man_web.jpg

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Aboriginal_2a38d6_1035664.jpg

[Peter Nirsch]

they fit in Nicobar Islands

[bozkur]

Do you think they could pass as african americans? or black?

Only very few

[Shah-Jehan]

Papuans look a lot like Sri Lankans, only with African textured hair.

Riiiight....

http://photodivision.gov.in/writereaddata/webimages/upload/W-2684l.jpg
http://iccworldcup2015s.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Sri-lanka-cricket-team-for-icc-world-cup.jpg


Sri Lanka is again, a diverse nation...the Sinhalese, an Indo-Aryan ethnic group derived from the invasion of Vijaya Sinha from Vanga (Bengal) whose soldiers intermarried with locals, have their own unique look and some can look very similar to Bengalis. The Tamils of Sri Lanka are a bit darker than Indian Tamils and the native Sinhalese but are still similar in features to all other South Asian people. You don't know what you're talking about.