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Figaro
07-08-2015, 05:11 AM
It has become fashionable among anthropological circles to say R1a and R1b are Indo-European. Don't get me wrong; Largely, this makes sense.

If R1a in Europe is mainly Helleno-Balto-Slavic, is R1b Monlith Builder/Celtic (Celtic in a semi-loose sense here...)?

When I think of Germanics, I think of "I", or the subclade often found in Scandinavia. I understand it goes down a thin strip through central europe down to the Balkans as well. Might be something to the ancient notion that the Germanics are Spartans afterall.....

In a sense, there are many threads on this forum which address this issue...but I havn't seen anything in a very condensed, single thread sort of way.

Are R1a's a bit closer to the Proto-Indo-European prototype? Is R1b this prototype+stronger west euro cro-mag substrate culturally, genetically, etc?

Share whatever thoughts come ot mind.

Figaro
07-08-2015, 05:09 PM
Wheee..

Lawalye
07-11-2015, 01:23 AM
R1B-U106 = germanic, I1 = pre-germanic, if you follow the migration of the indo-europeans you'll see that this suit perfectly with the spread of the R haplogroup in Europe.

The ancestors of celtic people and the germanic people separated during their migration in the Balkans : so I would be impossible that the germanics would be I1 and they are of course R1B like the celts.