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Dylan
07-11-2015, 08:05 PM
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 5.12%
Basque 1.90%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.50%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.17%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.53%
East_Med 0.92%
Eastern_Euro 0.28%
Fennoscandian 1.97%
French 4.91%
Iberian 18.52%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.17%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.95%
North_Atlantic 10.91%
North_Caucasian 0.48%
North_Sea 13.32%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.43%
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.96%
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.75%
West_Med 2.21%

I'm roughly 47% French-Canadian
1.5% Native American
1.5% English/Scottish bits
25% Irish (Munster)
25% Italian (Abruzzo and Marche)

How can someone who is half French-Canadian get a score of only 4.91% French, but an Iberian score of 18.52%?

Oneeye
07-11-2015, 08:17 PM
Brits get a high amount of Iberian on K36. It must be a very old link. Why wouldn't the French?

Not a Cop
07-11-2015, 09:53 PM
French in K36 is not linked to French people directly, i for example score about 7%.

Lusos
07-11-2015, 10:06 PM
It's so strange you should commit suicide.I mean Iberian...very strange

Dylan
07-11-2015, 10:25 PM
It's so strange you should commit suicide.I mean Iberian...very strange

someone's having a shit day.

Dylan
07-11-2015, 10:26 PM
Brits get a high amount of Iberian on K36. It must be a very old link. Why wouldn't the French?

I'm not surprised that I got high Iberian, I'm just surprised that I got 4x higher Iberian score than French score. There's something weird about France on Dna tests

Lusos
07-11-2015, 10:36 PM
someone's having a shit day.

It's just that I would consider strange if you had scored something like x amount of Tupi Guarani per example.Did you excluded the African scores or you actually don't score any?

Gaston
07-11-2015, 10:49 PM
It's normal. K36 has some components that are minor in the population it peaks, and very widespread. I manage several friends' genomes and I can give you the result of one (100% French since at least the 14th century):

24.6% Iberian
21.72% Italian
6.68% French

Dylan
07-11-2015, 11:03 PM
It's just that I would consider strange if you had scored something like x amount of Tupi Guarani per example.Did you excluded the African scores or you actually don't score any?

This is a copy and paste of my results, so no African from this particular test. The reason why I consider it strange is because I got 4x higher Iberian than French even though I'm not Spanish or Portuguese, but half French. I did expect some Iberian, but I expected it to be dwarfed by the French percentage.

Neon Knight
07-11-2015, 11:08 PM
Spanish is the new French :biggrin:

Oneeye
07-11-2015, 11:10 PM
Spanish is the new French :biggrin:

French moors?

Maguzanci
07-12-2015, 02:24 AM
It's normal. K36 has some components that are minor in the population it peaks, and very widespread. I manage several friends' genomes and I can give you the result of one (100% French since at least the 14th century):

24.6% Iberian
21.72% Italian
6.68% French

Interesting wow very cool one can be 100% french since 14 century!!! \O/
Sorry for out of topic how much African ancestry do Gulf Arabs/ Arabians like Saudis, Yemen Jews, Kuwaitis, Bedouins, Qataris have? Is the African (non-eurasian) ancestry around 6-14%? Is it mostly East African (gumuz, ari, nilotic, horner) and some west african-like ancestry?

Sikeliot
07-12-2015, 02:37 AM
I'm not surprised that I got high Iberian, I'm just surprised that I got 4x higher Iberian score than French score. There's something weird about France on Dna tests

SW France might be closer to the Iberian sample than the French sample on that run. What puzzles me is your low East Med, as usually people of Italian descent score it... yet you have nearly 1/4 Italian on there... yet no full Italian scores like that!

Peter Nirsch
07-12-2015, 02:41 AM
very strange indeed.

Maguzanci
07-12-2015, 04:08 AM
out of topic how much African ancestry do Gulf Arabs/ Arabians like Saudis, Yemen Jews, Kuwaitis, Bedouins, Qataris have? Is the African (non-eurasian) ancestry around 6-14%? Is it mostly East African (gumuz, ari, nilotic, horner) and some west african-like ancestry?

Pendragon
07-12-2015, 07:26 AM
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 5.12%
Basque 1.90%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.50%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.17%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.53%
East_Med 0.92%
Eastern_Euro 0.28%
Fennoscandian 1.97%
French 4.91%
Iberian 18.52%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.17%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.95%
North_Atlantic 10.91%
North_Caucasian 0.48%
North_Sea 13.32%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.43%
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.96%
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.75%
West_Med 2.21%

I'm roughly 47% French-Canadian
1.5% Native American
1.5% English/Scottish bits
25% Irish (Munster)
25% Italian (Abruzzo and Marche)

How can someone who is half French-Canadian get a score of only 4.91% French, but an Iberian score of 18.52%?

It should not take literally the name of the components with K36.
For example, "French", I do not know what it is, but it is not specifically "French"!

If I don't know the origin of your ancestors, I would have said you are perhaps mainly French mixed with Italian.
Your Irish ancestors did not really see (North Atlantic, North sea and Fenno, too low)

My results (100% French Northwest since at least the XVIe century, and probably much longer):
The main components:
Iberian: 18,29
North-Atlantic: 16,54
Italian: 13,35
North-Sea: 10,76
French: 7,58
Central-Euro: 7,3
East-Central-Euro: 5,52
East-Balkan: 5,13

firemonkey
07-12-2015, 09:15 PM
I have 100% British ancestry(according to my paper trail).

My K36 Results.

FTDNA

North_Sea 22.95%
North_Atlantic 20.04%
Iberian 13.51%
Fennoscandian 11.41%
French 8.06%
East_Central_Euro 5.62%
Central_Euro 4.40%
North_Caucasian 3.95%
Eastern_Euro 3.55%
Italian 2.90%
Basque 2.07%
West_Med 0.83%
Volga-Ural 0.34%
Omotic 0.22%
Amerindian 0.15%



23andMe


Amerindian 0.10%
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.22%
Central_African 0.18%
Central_Euro 4.57%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.59%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.32%
Fennoscandian 11.39%
French 7.32%
Iberian 13.04%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 3.32%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 20.60%
North_Caucasian 3.77%
North_Sea 23.26%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.11%
Pygmy 0.06%
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.59%
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.54%

Graham
07-12-2015, 09:31 PM
It's not actually French. Davidski gets labels wrong from time to time. The numbers mean more anyway. To try and figure out what it means. It's anonymous in WHG & Neolithic, so there's a start. It is high along the R1b route. Another clue

Sintashta Culture RISE395 10.88%
R1b-U106 Swedish Corded Battle Axe 10.26%
R1b L21 Iron Age Briton 10.21%

The samples. ANE influence perhaps. Even Not a Cop scores 7% like he says.

Anyway, that is what I think.

Era
07-12-2015, 09:44 PM
I had 3% French and 13% Iberian. It doesn't indicate ancestry anyways just what you have similarity with.

Also 11% east Balkan while 23andme gives around 90% Balkan. Pretty useless.

Lusos
07-12-2015, 11:51 PM
This is a copy and paste of my results, so no African from this particular test. The reason why I consider it strange is because I got 4x higher Iberian than French even though I'm not Spanish or Portuguese, but half French. I did expect some Iberian, but I expected it to be dwarfed by the French percentage.

Scoring Iberian according to the theorys should give you African of sorts.Im Portuguese I'm sure my results would probably show French or whatever but I get your point .You meant "Surprising" anyway.

Cristiano viejo
07-12-2015, 11:54 PM
Spanish is the new French :biggrin:

It is the opposite, French are Spanish in denial.

de Burgh II
07-12-2015, 11:59 PM
Iberian pride worldwide? :p

Grace O'Malley
07-15-2015, 05:33 AM
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 5.12%
Basque 1.90%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.50%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.17%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.53%
East_Med 0.92%
Eastern_Euro 0.28%
Fennoscandian 1.97%
French 4.91%
Iberian 18.52%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.17%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.95%
North_Atlantic 10.91%
North_Caucasian 0.48%
North_Sea 13.32%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.43%
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.96%
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.75%
West_Med 2.21%

I'm roughly 47% French-Canadian
1.5% Native American
1.5% English/Scottish bits
25% Irish (Munster)
25% Italian (Abruzzo and Marche)

How can someone who is half French-Canadian get a score of only 4.91% French, but an Iberian score of 18.52%?

Here's mine to compare. I'm 50% Munster 50% Connacht.

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.88%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.43%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.84%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.14%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 6.80%
Fennoscandian 7.54%
French 8.34%
Iberian 14.23%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 0.69%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 21.03%
North_Caucasian 1.33%
North_Sea 19.48%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.32%
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.95%
West_Med -

My mother 100% Munster

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.47%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.80%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.34%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.71%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 6.68%
Fennoscandian 10.34%
French 8.31%
Iberian 14.72%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 1.41%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 16.67%
North_Caucasian 4.20%
North_Sea 20.11%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.37%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.54%
West_Med 0.35%

The Armenian you score is interesting.