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drogin
07-15-2015, 07:22 PM
My paternal line are from Northern Norway, and we got haplogroup J2b2, with no STR matches at FTDNA.
I also took the Big-Y test, where I match(based on number of SNP's):
4 people of Tatar / Chuvash / Erzya origin
4 of German / Central EU origin
1 of Iberian origin
Of those, the closest matches with no known difference in SNP's are 2 tatars, 1 erzya and 1 from Spain.
Screenshot:
http://i61.tinypic.com/98vw90.png

In Y-Full, I have no close STR-matches, but in distant STR matches, I got:
http://i61.tinypic.com/2eyhq36.png
Again Russian ethnic minorities on top matches, this time STR.

In the Y-Tree however, you can see the Russian matches on Y-Full are actually a further mutation(Im the NOR-NO18):
http://i60.tinypic.com/spcie0.png

This obvisouly means that if you go back some thousands of years, I'm definitely related to exactly those guys, including the Spanish and German guy. But can I draw any more conclusions?
J2b2 is pretty rare in Norway, and I can't imagine the number of Russian Chuvash, Erzya and Tatars doing DNA tests are that huge..so it seems like a really huge coincidence to match so many of them.., right? :confused:

de Burgh II
07-15-2015, 07:28 PM
*Sees MtDNA*

Well I'll be damned. lol!

drogin
07-16-2015, 03:50 PM
*Sees MtDNA*

Well I'll be damned. lol!
Heh, sup, T2b brother?
My maternal line is from central-western Norway :)

de Burgh II
07-17-2015, 08:56 PM
It truly is a small world after all. :lol:

Trojet
07-26-2015, 09:44 PM
This obvisouly means that if you go back some thousands of years, I'm definitely related to exactly those guys, including the Spanish and German guy. But can I draw any more conclusions?
J2b2 is pretty rare in Norway, and I can't imagine the number of Russian Chuvash, Erzya and Tatars doing DNA tests are that huge..so it seems like a really huge coincidence to match so many of them.., right? :confused:

Well obviously you, the Russian Tatar samples, a sample from Tuscany, and Spain and maybe a few others scatered north of the Balkans share a common ancestor in J2b-Z8429 who lived around 2900 ybp according to yfull. You form your own subclade below Z8429 and parallel to those Tatar samples, therefore your connection to them is 2900 years (Iron Age). It seems like this subclade J2b-Z8429 diversified around 2900 ybp my guess would be somewhere north of the Balkans since this subclade Z8429 hasn't been found in the Balkans yet.