Jewpsy's sister's DNA results!

[sql]

http://i.imgur.com/qRSfQyZ.png

All I can say is wow! Her results differ greatly from mine. It does however make sense, though, considering the fact that we look nothing alike. From our father's side, she is more Swedish influenced, and I am more Ashkenazi influenced. An interesting thing that I noticed is that her inheritance was so extreme that my paternal grandmother (Swedish, Spanish, maybe a bit Finnish/Sami) showed up as a parent/sibling and my paternal grandfather (Ashkenazi and Romani) showed up as a first cousin! My inheritance was more even, with them both showing up where they should, under "close family", but I still got slightly more from my grandfather.

Currently, it is my project to get my whole family tested with AncestryDNA (I like their family tree integration). So far, I have myself, my sister, my first cousin (mom's side), and all 4 grandparents. I got my great uncle's sample in Sweden, brought it home, and I am going to mail it in today. Next up are my parents, second cousins, some more first cousins, and some aunts and uncles. After that, I'm going to get 23andme for myself and my parents.

I will eventually download my sister's raw data and put it into GEDmatch, if anyone is interested in what her results would be on different calculators.

If anyone wants to see the results of anyone else in my family, feel free to ask! :)

[Kamal900]

Its seems like your sister is white or European who is predominately of northern European ancestry. Does autosomal DNA differs from each sibling or something?

[sql]

Its seems like your sister is white or European who is predominately of northern European ancestry. Does autosomal DNA differs from each sibling or something?

Yeah, we all inherit different DNA from our grandparents. It's why we look so different, our ethnicity results are so different, and our relative matches are different as well.

I can PM you pictures comparing the two of us, if you would like.

[themrdude1990]

Ive seen photos of you, you seem typical anglo-american and I think your sister wouldn't look too different

[Kamal900]

Yeah, we all inherit different DNA from our grandparents. It's why we look so different, our ethnicity results are so different, and our relative matches are different as well.

I can PM you pictures comparing the two of us, if you would like.

Ok.

[Kamal900]

Yeah, we all inherit different DNA from our grandparents. It's why we look so different, our ethnicity results are so different, and our relative matches are different as well.

I can PM you pictures comparing the two of us, if you would like.

Ok.

[Era]

Can you post your results for comparison?

[sql]

Can you post your results for comparison?

http://i.imgur.com/osiQgLs.png

[Kamal900]

http://i.imgur.com/osiQgLs.png

Its seems that you have 8% more Ashkenazi ancestry than your sis, but at the same time, yours isn't all different from her's.

[Era]

Interesting! I'm expecting my brother's results from FTDNA to find out about my y-dna, I did mine with 23andme. Can't wait to see the difference in components.

[sql]

Its seems that you have 8% more Ashkenazi ancestry than your sis, but at the same time, yours isn't all different from her's.

10% :P

[Kamal900]

10% :P

Yeah, but anyway, its not all different. You look western European yourself.

[sql]

Yeah, but anyway, its not all different. You look western European yourself.

Still, 10% is a big difference for siblings, imo. The difference regarding British and Irish percentages were a bigger surprise.

[Kamal900]

Still, 10% is a big difference for siblings, imo. The difference regarding British and Irish percentages were a bigger surprise.

Genes play very strange ways it seems. Btw, have you seen my genetic results?
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?171281-My-GEDmatch-results
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?173585-My-FTDNA-mtDNA-haplogroup-is-here

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

It looks like you get a lot more Ireland than your sister too.

[Era]

Still, 10% is a big difference for siblings, imo. The difference regarding British and Irish percentages were a bigger surprise.

They all are different which shows that it's an approximate work after all. At least for this company. Did your mtdna come up the same at least :p

[sql]

They all are different which shows that it's an approximate work after all. At least for this company. Did your mtdna come up the same at least :p

AncestryDNA doesn't show mtDNA, but we do show up as "Immediate Family" :D

[sql]

It looks like you get a lot more Ireland than your sister too.

Our four top components are flipped, it seems.

[Kamal900]

Our four top components are flipped, it seems.

Can you check my results soon?

[sql]

Uploading her raw data to GEDmatch right now. Which calculators should I get her results for and compare it to mine?

[Gooding]

My results, as requested by jewpsy.. it seems we have a similar Celtic quantum in our readings.. :thumb001:


REGION APPROXIMATE AMOUNT

Europe 100%

Europe West 45% .

Ireland 28% .

Scandinavia 13% .

Iberian Peninsula 6% .

- Trace Regions ? 8% .

Great Britain 4% .

Europe East 3% .

Finland/Northwest Russia <1% .

✔Show all regions

[Berahthraban]

What do you think is more reliable, ancestryDNA or 23andme? I have heard that 23andme is better.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Do I have to pay to get ancestrydna test or something, even after I've already done 23andme?

[Petalpusher]

You won't get so much difference in autosomal, if you are really brother&sister.

K13, Jtest, K23b, K7

[sql]

What do you think is more reliable, ancestryDNA or 23andme? I have heard that 23andme is better.

I haven't done 23andme yet, so I can't comment. However, from what I've seen, AncestryDNA has much better and more specific reference populations. None of this "Broadly Southern European" crap.


Do I have to pay to get ancestrydna test or something, even after I've already done 23andme?

Yes, FTDNA is the only one that allows transfers.


You won't get so much difference in autosomal, if you are really brother&sister.

K13, Jtest, K23b, K7

Well, so far we do have a huge difference. I'll get the results of those 4 tests from both me and her to you sometime tomorrow.

[Gooding]

Do I have to pay to get ancestrydna test or something, even after I've already done 23andme?

Yes, yes you will. Probably around $99.00.

[Petalpusher]

I haven't done 23andme yet, so I can't comment. However, from what I've seen, AncestryDNA has much better and more specific reference populations. None of this "Broadly Southern European" crap.

It's the same when they give you "Europe West" on AncestryDNA, it's broadly stuff, even broader because it's not North/Central/South specific. 23andme's AC isn't perfect but it's better than AncestryDNA for sure. It's not very important anyway, what matters is the raw datas.




Well, so far we do have a huge difference

They are close, the difference autosomally between Ireland and Great Britain is extremely thin. 23andme put them in one cluster, only to avoid this kind of case when siblings get two totally opposite breakdown of UK, which is obviously wrong, you have the exact same ancestry than her, if you are biological brother/sister.

[Mortimer]

congrats bro

[sql]

HarappaWorld results:

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% n-european (xing) + 11.6% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 1.04
2 85.8% n-european (xing) + 14.2% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 1.06
3 86.8% n-european (xing) + 13.2% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 1.09
4 91.5% n-european (xing) + 8.5% samaritian (behar) @ 1.16
5 88.3% n-european (xing) + 11.7% morocco-jew (behar) @ 1.18
6 90.4% n-european (xing) + 9.6% cypriot (behar) @ 1.44
7 91.4% n-european (xing) + 8.6% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 1.6
8 91.1% n-european (xing) + 8.9% palestinian (hgdp) @ 1.61
9 90.6% n-european (xing) + 9.4% lebanese (behar) @ 1.64
10 91% n-european (xing) + 9% jordanian (behar) @ 1.7
11 83.2% n-european (xing) + 16.8% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 1.72
12 64.5% french (hgdp) + 35.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 1.72
13 83.5% utahn-white (hapmap) + 16.5% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 1.74
14 90% utahn-white (hapmap) + 10% samaritian (behar) @ 1.75
15 91.5% n-european (xing) + 8.5% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 1.76
16 92% n-european (xing) + 8% druze (hgdp) @ 1.78
17 91.1% n-european (xing) + 8.9% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 1.8
18 90.9% n-european (xing) + 9.1% syrian (behar) @ 1.84
19 90.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 9.6% druze (hgdp) @ 1.97
20 91% n-european (xing) + 9% palestinian (harappa) @ 1.97

[Era]

So where in calculators does your gypsy show? Are you sure it's real

[Petalpusher]

HarappaWorld results:

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% n-european (xing) + 11.6% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 1.04


Mixmode is broken sometimes, you should run Oracle4 in K13/k15 to begin with

[sql]

So where in calculators does your gypsy show? Are you sure it's real

Only for my grandfather. At this point, I doubt I inherited any of it. It's more of just a novelty than anything else for me. I made my name "Jewpsy" just for fun, really.

[sql]

Btw, here are my Harappa results for comparison:


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.6% british (1000genomes) + 29.4% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 0.72
2 78% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 22% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 0.86
3 72.4% british (1000genomes) + 27.6% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 0.87
4 74.9% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 25.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 0.92
5 73.2% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 26.8% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 1.33
6 79.7% british (1000genomes) + 20.3% cypriot (behar) @ 1.33
7 66.6% orcadian (hgdp) + 33.4% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 1.34
8 77.8% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 22.2% morocco-jew (behar) @ 1.5
9 68.6% orcadian (hgdp) + 31.4% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 1.53
10 75.8% british (1000genomes) + 24.2% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 1.58
11 81.7% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 18.3% cypriot (behar) @ 1.69
12 81.8% british (1000genomes) + 18.2% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2
13 59.8% orcadian (hgdp) + 40.2% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2
14 72.2% orcadian (hgdp) + 27.8% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 2.03
15 83% british (1000genomes) + 17% druze (hgdp) @ 2.04
16 76.5% orcadian (hgdp) + 23.5% cypriot (behar) @ 2.09
17 83.7% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 16.3% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2.15
18 64.7% utahn-white (hapmap) + 35.3% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.16
19 81.8% british (1000genomes) + 18.2% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 2.17
20 82.4% british (1000genomes) + 17.6% samaritian (behar) @ 2.2

It's almost the same as my results except I am about twice as much MENA/Jew. I think since I have nearly twice the AJ blood that she has, they can tell it is specifically Jewish and it places me more with Jewish groups. Since she is a bit more than 1/8, it is less specific so she gets placed with many Semitic groups.

[Petalpusher]

Btw, here are my Harappa results for comparison:


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.6% british (1000genomes) + 29.4% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 0.72
2 78% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 22% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 0.86
3 72.4% british (1000genomes) + 27.6% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 0.87
4 74.9% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 25.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 0.92
5 73.2% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 26.8% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 1.33
6 79.7% british (1000genomes) + 20.3% cypriot (behar) @ 1.33
7 66.6% orcadian (hgdp) + 33.4% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 1.34
8 77.8% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 22.2% morocco-jew (behar) @ 1.5
9 68.6% orcadian (hgdp) + 31.4% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 1.53
10 75.8% british (1000genomes) + 24.2% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 1.58
11 81.7% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 18.3% cypriot (behar) @ 1.69
12 81.8% british (1000genomes) + 18.2% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2
13 59.8% orcadian (hgdp) + 40.2% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2
14 72.2% orcadian (hgdp) + 27.8% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 2.03
15 83% british (1000genomes) + 17% druze (hgdp) @ 2.04
16 76.5% orcadian (hgdp) + 23.5% cypriot (behar) @ 2.09
17 83.7% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 16.3% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2.15
18 64.7% utahn-white (hapmap) + 35.3% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.16
19 81.8% british (1000genomes) + 18.2% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 2.17
20 82.4% british (1000genomes) + 17.6% samaritian (behar) @ 2.2

It's almost the same as my results except I am about twice as much MENA/Jew. I think since I have nearly twice the AJ blood that she has, they can tell it is specifically Jewish and it places me more with Jewish groups. Since she is a bit more than 1/8, it is less specific so she gets placed with many Semitic groups.

You are not, "N.European" and "British" is not the same thing, so you cannot compare the Ashkenazi percentage between the two.

Harappa is one of the worst calculator, it's meaningless anyway.

[sql]

You are not, "N.European" and "British" is not the same thing, so you cannot compare the Ashkenazi percentage between the two.

Harappa is one of the worst calculator, it's meaningless anyway.

Which should I use?

[Petalpusher]

Eurogenes K13 and mdlp K23b. Once you got it you click the little Oracle4 tab and post both

Also Eurogenes K7, there s no Oracle, but it's a very interesting one to get a good overall idea of your genetic breakdown.